Sure can! I use 2 batteries in series, 1/8" 6011 run DCEN. I made my own setup with welding cable jumpers w/ battery terminals, and a stinger and ground clamp. It burns through rods very fast so you have to keep feeding it in quickly. Works great for offroad vehicle repairs on the trails.
One other note: most warn to keep the batteries away from where you're welding because the hydrogen gas emitted from the battery under load can cause a battery explosion.
you need 2 or 3 batteries to make this work. years ago, a body guy made a resistance spot welder to spot weld bodies, and weld studs for panel pulling, used 2 batteries in series. worked great!!!!!
High quality jumper cables help also. Cheapies have small gauge wire and poor connections. All those things add up to increase resistance, lowering your voltage. It can also help to use vise grips to hold your rod or ground your work.
Ita not the gauge thats important in welding its the amount of stranda in the wire the higher the count the better for welding conaidering that current follow the outer side of the wire
I'd say a mixture of battery size, age and how full it is played a huge factor. I suppose, if stuck and having no better option, having the vehicle run while the alternator keeps the voltage around 13.8-14.4 might be better as well.
I’ve used this setup before to spot weld together some thin metal. I had to cut the coat hanger down to about 6” to get it to arc. I didn’t need a bead, but it served my purpose.
I have heard of people using a battery charger to do emergency welding with in the past. You could try linking two batteries together so you get 24volts, that should start an arc because they start trucks really easy! 😂😂😂😂
Stick welders typically have around 25 volts on the output side, so yes, the two battery idea might be the ticket! Hi amps, low volts= stick welding success!
I'd say if you had 2 volt batteries and ran them in series it might be enough voltage to light it up. It's most probably a voltage issue not aso much current.
@@TH-camsucksballs You need a certain amount of voltage to light up a welding rod, voltage matters, that's why your open circuit voltage is always higher in the 50 to 90 volts depending on the welders. This is a misunderstanding of the relationship between Voltage and current. You couldn't stick weld with 1000 amps at 1 volts. It's like when people say it's not the volts that kills it's the amps, when in reality I could hold 2000 amps bare copper wire in my hands at a couple volts and I'd be fine. If I did the opposite 2000 volts at 1amp I'd be dead. You need the volts high enough to get the current to go into the high resistance of your body. Or down your welding leads and through the material and your welding rod. That's why I suggested Putting 2 batteries in series to double the voltage.
Anthony bro... the next tool I think you should invest in.. is a portable bandsaw.. or we call them portabands.. instead of burning through all of those zipdiscs and abrasive wheels. the portaband will save you time and money.. I use a Milwaukee 18v at work (millwright for a lumber mill) to cut through all my tubing, angle, channel etc.. when I'm out of the shop. I think you should go see if you could rent one and give it a test run. I think you will be pleased my friend. keep up the good content bro. happy holidays Andrew
Yes. To cut out sheet metal. But not form nice clean cutingbof bar or round stock. I'm telling you from my opinion. A portaband does wonders for time saving and cut cleanness!!!
I would start with a minimum of 36V (3, 12V batteries in series), all with a good charge to maintain a reasonable arc with a 3/32 6011 rod. Haven't tried this but the voltage is closer to welding voltages of vintage transformer machines. They also have an OCV in the 60-80V range so starting is easier.
I don't know if it can work or not, but the videos I saw (purportedly) show 3 or 4 batteries hooked up series. 12vdc really doesn't want to jump a gap (voltage is a measurement of how much electricity "wants" to conduct through a conductor (electromotive force). Higher voltage DC does want to jump a gap, but usually higher than even 36volts. A lot of fires are started by running solar panels in series (but usually multiple panels and much higher voltages) because of how much it wants to jump a gap and creates a plasma.
Another source of 12 volt batteries is ones used in emergency lighting (exit signs) $12-25 each new. obvious not the capacity of a car or marine battery but a much better price point for proof of concept. I use them for a car stereo I put in a rolling toolbox I made.
I'd say if you had 2 12 volt batteries and ran them in series i.e. connect the positive of one to the negative of the other, and your ground and stinger from the + from one battery and the - from the other,. it might be enough voltage to light it up. It's most probably a voltage issue not so much current. It say you'd still struggle with 6010s as they typically need a much high open circuit voltage OCV to light up over 60V. But who knows, it love to see the experiment with a few different rod types.
subbed..Any day can be WTFW and I hope everyday would be. I appreciate the honest testing and curiousity! I have an offgrid need to weld 1/4 rebar. I am wondering if 480w @ 24v buck converter "safely" attached to my running van is enough? My van running alternator (160amps) WHILE RUNNING feeds my oversized starter battery 12v 155AH deep cycle. FYI: I am current able to power 1500watt using a 2000 watt inverter with no issues to cook and power anything under 12amps. If so and reasonable, What rod would you recommend? Any way to isolate to protect my battery, alternator and van since effectively shorting my battery.
I never STICK" welded with batteries. But I have a READYWELDER wire welder spoolgun, that will weld great on 24 or 36 vdc. Flux core or gas mig. From 1/8" to over 1/2" steel. And do as nice as a regular mig welder. It also welds ALUMINUM with Argon gas. Try 2 12 volt batteries in SERIES or even 3. 12volt batteries it will work, plus take a 2ft chain 3/8", and clamp one end to the work and try different links with the ground clamp to change the amperage and voltage, I don't think you have enough voltage. Minimum 2 12v batteries in "SERIES" not parallel, preferably number 31 size fully charged. 😃😃 Great Video
Not enough voltage? 12 volts would barely weld 18 gauge on MIG/MAG. I think you had the right idea when you were talking about linking up multiple batteries in series. 2 of those badboys should give you maybe 18-24 volts, depending on the type of batteries used, that should be enough to burn a sheetmetal rod? I dunno if my figuring is correct but it may be worth a try. I may try it myself when I get me a lid. Cool idea. Cool video!
you need 2 batteries in series to get the voltage up to 24 volts - for thicker material need 3 batteries in series 36 volts look at your welder - something like Idealarc 250 has 30 volts max output
I think you had a bad connection when you laid the jump cable clamp on that metal table with the other clamp attached to the angle iron that was sitting on the table it should have been sparking… I am a mechanic and have welding burn marks on a couple of wrenches from hitting the positive post on the back of the alternator while taking other parts off and that valve is a lot smaller
I vaguely recall watching a reality TV show (probably either Gold Rush or Axe Men) where they used 2 batteries from heavy equipment (batteries to start diesel engines) to do some field welding. Unfortunately, I don't remember any more details.
I'm sure you can weld with 2 batteries. Maybe you can try giving more power connecting a battery-charger to just 1 battery ? I haven't seen anybody trying this method yet.... Blessings from Venezuela. (I just discovered your channel today)
the coat hanger would work better if you left the paper on.....that is how the first stick welding rods were improved over bare rods.....the paper burns and releases CO2 gas to protect the weld.....now you know
@@MeltinMetalAnthony sounds good, some of the first rods that were better, were ones with a little rust on them, they also would dip rods in a lime [caustic soda] bath, the predecessor of Low Hydrogen rods to get them to work better......some of the first 6010 types were paper wrapped with wire around the rod......ESAB is the inverter of Covered Rods I believe.......back in 1900 or so...... as the fellers said, you need more volts to weld, maybe 18 to 24....you could TIG with that low voltage though......
I suspect a lot of these videos where they do this are trucks with 24V batteries rather than the smaller 12V batteries used in cars and other small engine machines. Be interestng to see if cleaning your ground point better might help too. I did see Fab Rats here on youtube temporarily fixing a trailer using this method after his generator chucked it. Seemed to do the trick but odds are it was a 24V setup.
Turn your amps up lol … add another battery. From what I’ve seen 2 batteries in series and then switch polarity, you would think negative to your work piece to ground it… but no positive grounds your metal and use the negative to the rod
1st thing I would have done is cover that bomb/battery up. 2nd thing would be to clean the angle thoroughly and check to see how much surface contact jumper cable clamp to angle has. Interesting to watch anyway.
I've been trying to figure out an emergency roadside/ trail focused mobile welding set up. Found most people don't care for 120 volt welders and even they require a big generator with the typical 30 amp breaker not being ideal. 12 Volt batteries usually have to be ran at 24-36 volts and drain very quickly. Does anyone have a better idea than just lugging around the bigass acetylene and oxygen bottles I already have and torch welding? Obviously not a pipe welding rig setup but for getting some poor guy (possibly myself) back on the road again.
You need more voltage. Wire to batteries in series. Make sure they're actually charged well. Reverse polarity so that negative is your arc. Clean the surfaces you will be welding. If you do that you'll have a much better shot!
Loved the video. 2 - 24v batteries in series should light up. I think it would weld a bit weird though. Off the top of my head a CC machine will pump out 28-34 volts 100ish amps 1/8 7018 depending on arc length. Trying to remember but I think a battery is constant voltage. I imagine if you hooked 2 - 12v battteries in series up to the lugs on a wire feeder you would be able to control amperage with WFS. Your voltage would be stuck at 24v though, and the wire would be hot all the time. Might be worth trying out on a cheapo harbor freight MIG. Food for thought.
My guess is that the jumper cables are not nearly heavy enough to carry the load. Have you ever cut open a cheap pair of jumper cables? They are wimpy.
The problem is the battery doesn't have enough volts. You definitely need to make sure the batteries are fully charged and wire 3 or 4 of them in series. Really 5 of them would be pretty close to what a welder should be running at.
There's actually a field repair welder that you connect to two batteries to repair you're overland vehicle to limp it back home I forget what it's call it's a spool gun you run flux core in it
Try welding with the old car generators not the modern alternators with voltage regulators but perhaps those would work too if you jump the regulator to always be in full field output. You’ll have another backup welder for your field work and an impressive tool to boast👏✌️
So 1, 12v battery usually runs around 14v.... in DC welding you need 24v minimum... you need 2 batteries in series to get 24v... also in DC welding the positive is your ground... also jumper cables don't hold them tight enough to get a solid connection use a pair of vice grips in the jumper cables!!! Lastly you will never weld with a wire hanger... welding rods and wire usually have Flux core inside them, non Flux welding wire or rods require the welder to use his own Flux!!! There are 2 ways to connect batteries 1 way will double the voltage output the other will double charge capacity!!! Wire in series is negative to positive leaving a negative and positive from each battery, doubles voltage output so 2 x 12v = 24v...at whatever amp hours the batteries capacity has... but wired in parallel or negative to negative and positive to positive should double the capacity of charge staying at 12v... in theory if you get 4 Batteries and run 2 in series then the other 2 in series and then run the sets parallel you will get 24v at the capacity of 2 batteries!!! It will also work the other way around so 2 batteries in parallel and another 2 in parallel and then run the sets in series giving 24v at capacity of 2 batteries!!!
Also lastly doing this shouldn't effect the stability or life of your batteries any more then normal as long as you consider capacity of life and charging for your applications!!!
I don’t want to bug you man! I’m way amateur in welding. But at 52 it’s quite useful! Can you point me in the direction of what sticks are for what gauges of metals etc! Really like your stuff! I have no intentions of working proffesional Ly as I’m a disabled army vet, and I’m wanting the knowledge for incorporating metal for my small woodworking projects! Any and all help and direction in and all sources you would suggest! I got a Miller multimatic welder. Other than the literature given I would like to know the sticks! I also got 2 old Jeeps 1 getting on farms and 4 link rear! I’ve already mounted (by a proffesional as you!) and don’t need it for this project! As we know there are no boundaries in learning! Thank you in advance for the help! Mike B.
Voltage isn’t high enough need at least two deep cell batteries 👀 maybe grind that metal clean and wire them in series positive on one battery negative on the other ..,, and make sure positive to negative to make 24 volts
Put 2 or 3 batteries together in series and it will work. Think about a mig welder. You set your voltage between say 17 and 24 volts. That's two 12 volt batteries wired in series.
Just like Jake mentioned in his you need two batteries to do it I've seen it done off-road and someone break a tie rod use a piece of angle iron and weld it on with two batteries and jumper cables
Look up volt amp curve for whatever machine you can think of and mimic the parameters.
great suggestion. might do kit in a future video
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@@MeltinMetalAnthony YODONT YOU U U DON'T HAVE ENOUGH VOLTS...YOU NEED 2 BATTERIES...SO THEN YOU CAN WELD WITH ANY OF THE RODS YOU WANT" 👍
Sure can! I use 2 batteries in series, 1/8" 6011 run DCEN. I made my own setup with welding cable jumpers w/ battery terminals, and a stinger and ground clamp. It burns through rods very fast so you have to keep feeding it in quickly. Works great for offroad vehicle repairs on the trails.
One other note: most warn to keep the batteries away from where you're welding because the hydrogen gas emitted from the battery under load can cause a battery explosion.
That’s how I do it. Two 800 cc battery connected in series. Works like a charm.
Can you weld with them still connected to your car and the engine running?
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And... those batteries suffer from slow loads not fast
you need 2 or 3 batteries to make this work.
years ago, a body guy made a resistance spot welder to spot weld bodies, and weld studs for panel pulling, used 2 batteries in series. worked great!!!!!
I was a body tech for 10 years, never seen that done, can you tell me more?
Should have tried a wrench, they seem to weld to things pretty easy when your not paying attention, they definitely make more sparks.
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High quality jumper cables help also. Cheapies have small gauge wire and poor connections. All those things add up to increase resistance, lowering your voltage. It can also help to use vise grips to hold your rod or ground your work.
Ita not the gauge thats important in welding its the amount of stranda in the wire the higher the count the better for welding conaidering that current follow the outer side of the wire
I'd say a mixture of battery size, age and how full it is played a huge factor. I suppose, if stuck and having no better option, having the vehicle run while the alternator keeps the voltage around 13.8-14.4 might be better as well.
That’ll fry your alternator
@jeramegoodman7826 I was thinking the same thing but that was my concern, the alternator.
I’ve used this setup before to spot weld together some thin metal. I had to cut the coat hanger down to about 6” to get it to arc. I didn’t need a bead, but it served my purpose.
I have heard of people using a battery charger to do emergency welding with in the past. You could try linking two batteries together so you get 24volts, that should start an arc because they start trucks really easy! 😂😂😂😂
Stick welders typically have around 25 volts on the output side, so yes, the two battery idea might be the ticket! Hi amps, low volts= stick welding success!
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I'd say if you had 2 volt batteries and ran them in series it might be enough voltage to light it up.
It's most probably a voltage issue not aso much current.
@@TH-camsucksballs You need a certain amount of voltage to light up a welding rod, voltage matters, that's why your open circuit voltage is always higher in the 50 to 90 volts depending on the welders. This is a misunderstanding of the relationship between Voltage and current. You couldn't stick weld with 1000 amps at 1 volts.
It's like when people say it's not the volts that kills it's the amps, when in reality I could hold 2000 amps bare copper wire in my hands at a couple volts and I'd be fine. If I did the opposite 2000 volts at 1amp I'd be dead. You need the volts high enough to get the current to go into the high resistance of your body.
Or down your welding leads and through the material and your welding rod.
That's why I suggested Putting 2 batteries in series to double the voltage.
Anthony bro... the next tool I think you should invest in.. is a portable bandsaw.. or we call them portabands.. instead of burning through all of those zipdiscs and abrasive wheels. the portaband will save you time and money..
I use a Milwaukee 18v at work (millwright for a lumber mill) to cut through all my tubing, angle, channel etc.. when I'm out of the shop. I think you should go see if you could rent one and give it a test run. I think you will be pleased my friend.
keep up the good content bro.
happy holidays
Andrew
Yes. To cut out sheet metal. But not form nice clean cutingbof bar or round stock. I'm telling you from my opinion. A portaband does wonders for time saving and cut cleanness!!!
I would start with a minimum of 36V (3, 12V batteries in series), all with a good charge to maintain a reasonable arc with a 3/32 6011 rod. Haven't tried this but the voltage is closer to welding voltages of vintage transformer machines. They also have an OCV in the 60-80V range so starting is easier.
Can you do this while a vehicle is running, or will the draw blow out your alternator?
You need 2 batteries in 24 volts
I seen welding with 2 or 3 batteries in series. You need more voltage.
You also need good fully charged batteries…
I don't know if it can work or not, but the videos I saw (purportedly) show 3 or 4 batteries hooked up series. 12vdc really doesn't want to jump a gap (voltage is a measurement of how much electricity "wants" to conduct through a conductor (electromotive force).
Higher voltage DC does want to jump a gap, but usually higher than even 36volts. A lot of fires are started by running solar panels in series (but usually multiple panels and much higher voltages) because of how much it wants to jump a gap and creates a plasma.
would there be any benefit of passing the current through salt water first?
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Another source of 12 volt batteries is ones used in emergency lighting (exit signs) $12-25 each new. obvious not the capacity of a car or marine battery but a much better price point for proof of concept. I use them for a car stereo I put in a rolling toolbox I made.
I'd say if you had 2 12 volt batteries and ran them in series i.e. connect the positive of one to the negative of the other, and your ground and stinger from the + from one battery and the - from the other,.
it might be enough voltage to light it up.
It's most probably a voltage issue not so much current.
It say you'd still struggle with 6010s as they typically need a much high open circuit voltage OCV to light up over 60V.
But who knows, it love to see the experiment with a few different rod types.
subbed..Any day can be WTFW and I hope everyday would be. I appreciate the honest testing and curiousity! I have an offgrid need to weld 1/4 rebar. I am wondering if 480w @ 24v buck converter "safely" attached to my running van is enough? My van running alternator (160amps) WHILE RUNNING feeds my oversized starter battery 12v 155AH deep cycle. FYI: I am current able to power 1500watt using a 2000 watt inverter with no issues to cook and power anything under 12amps. If so and reasonable, What rod would you recommend? Any way to isolate to protect my battery, alternator and van since effectively shorting my battery.
I don't want to give you a bad answer. im not really sure what rod to recommend!
Dude I fucking love your videos. Your videos on the business side of running your own rig really help. Make more about he business side! Keep it up!
I never STICK" welded with batteries.
But I have a READYWELDER wire welder spoolgun, that will weld great on 24 or 36 vdc. Flux core or gas mig. From 1/8" to over 1/2" steel. And do as nice as a regular mig welder. It also welds ALUMINUM with Argon gas.
Try 2 12 volt batteries in SERIES or even 3. 12volt batteries it will work, plus take a 2ft chain 3/8", and clamp one end to the work and try different links with the ground clamp to change the amperage and voltage, I don't think you have enough voltage. Minimum 2 12v batteries in "SERIES" not parallel, preferably number 31 size fully charged. 😃😃 Great Video
Anthony, I love the bender out by the tree, I have always had my benders outside.......lots of room to move.......cheers from Florida ....Paul
Not enough voltage? 12 volts would barely weld 18 gauge on MIG/MAG. I think you had the right idea when you were talking about linking up multiple batteries in series. 2 of those badboys should give you maybe 18-24 volts, depending on the type of batteries used, that should be enough to burn a sheetmetal rod? I dunno if my figuring is correct but it may be worth a try. I may try it myself when I get me a lid. Cool idea. Cool video!
Hide a welder behind the wall and blast off some beads🤣
Hahahahaha
you need 2 batteries in series to get the voltage up to 24 volts - for thicker material need 3 batteries in series 36 volts
look at your welder - something like Idealarc 250 has 30 volts max output
Does the batteries get damaged afterwards? or they still work
this one seemed to work fine after
Emergency blanket reflex like mirror for welding goggles
3- 6 volt deep cycle batteries in series will let you run 6011 1/8” or 7018 3/32”. Better arc the two 12 volts but 2 12 volts will work
I think you had a bad connection when you laid the jump cable clamp on that metal table with the other clamp attached to the angle iron that was sitting on the table it should have been sparking… I am a mechanic and have welding burn marks on a couple of wrenches from hitting the positive post on the back of the alternator while taking other parts off and that valve is a lot smaller
I vaguely recall watching a reality TV show (probably either Gold Rush or Axe Men) where they used 2 batteries from heavy equipment (batteries to start diesel engines) to do some field welding. Unfortunately, I don't remember any more details.
I'm sure you can weld with 2 batteries. Maybe you can try giving more power connecting a battery-charger to just 1 battery ? I haven't seen anybody trying this method yet....
Blessings from Venezuela. (I just discovered your channel today)
the coat hanger would work better if you left the paper on.....that is how the first stick welding rods were improved over bare rods.....the paper burns and releases CO2 gas to protect the weld.....now you know
thats really interesting. maybe I should do a video about makeshift welding rods
@@MeltinMetalAnthony sounds good, some of the first rods that were better, were ones with a little rust on them, they also would dip rods in a lime [caustic soda] bath, the predecessor of Low Hydrogen rods to get them to work better......some of the first 6010 types were paper wrapped with wire around the rod......ESAB is the inverter of Covered Rods I believe.......back in 1900 or so......
as the fellers said, you need more volts to weld, maybe 18 to 24....you could TIG with that low voltage though......
Good job 👍🏻
Will you kill a modern vehicle if you do this while its running
I suspect a lot of these videos where they do this are trucks with 24V batteries rather than the smaller 12V batteries used in cars and other small engine machines. Be interestng to see if cleaning your ground point better might help too.
I did see Fab Rats here on youtube temporarily fixing a trailer using this method after his generator chucked it. Seemed to do the trick but odds are it was a 24V setup.
I'm here because I once saw a vid of an overland guy do this to repair a tie rod. If i find the vid, ill post it here
Turn your amps up lol … add another battery. From what I’ve seen 2 batteries in series and then switch polarity, you would think negative to your work piece to ground it… but no positive grounds your metal and use the negative to the rod
1st thing I would have done is cover that bomb/battery up. 2nd thing would be to clean the angle thoroughly and check to see how much surface contact jumper cable clamp to angle has.
Interesting to watch anyway.
Turn it down,turn it down, you're killing me I'm melting!!!
An OCV of only 12 will not do it. If you connect 3 batteries in series you will get 36 OCV and that will do it quite well. Try it next time.
I have seen this work on a show about a future apocalypse, the jack of all crew used batteries to weld and it worked out.
I already did it and works just fine, use 2 or 3 batteries connected in series if you use bci 65 it'll be better.
I've been trying to figure out an emergency roadside/ trail focused mobile welding set up.
Found most people don't care for 120 volt welders and even they require a big generator with the typical 30 amp breaker not being ideal.
12 Volt batteries usually have to be ran at 24-36 volts and drain very quickly.
Does anyone have a better idea than just lugging around the bigass acetylene and oxygen bottles I already have and torch welding? Obviously not a pipe welding rig setup but for getting some poor guy (possibly myself) back on the road again.
You need more voltage. Wire to batteries in series. Make sure they're actually charged well. Reverse polarity so that negative is your arc. Clean the surfaces you will be welding. If you do that you'll have a much better shot!
Loved the video. 2 - 24v batteries in series should light up. I think it would weld a bit weird though. Off the top of my head a CC machine will pump out 28-34 volts 100ish amps 1/8 7018 depending on arc length. Trying to remember but I think a battery is constant voltage. I imagine if you hooked 2 - 12v battteries in series up to the lugs on a wire feeder you would be able to control amperage with WFS. Your voltage would be stuck at 24v though, and the wire would be hot all the time. Might be worth trying out on a cheapo harbor freight MIG. Food for thought.
My guess is that the jumper cables are not nearly heavy enough to carry the load.
Have you ever cut open a cheap pair of jumper cables? They are wimpy.
Sounds like two batteries from the comments, but was wondering at home what would happen if you used a charger with the one battery?
Nothing as it’s not enough amps?
Maybe you could try 2 batteries in series 3/32 dcen next Wednesday
Looks to me that you have terminals on backward. Negative to work piece (vice locks) and positive to work piece.
You should make another one of these videos ... use 2 car Batts wired in series. It'll work
You have to carry a second battery with you for welding. You need 24v+ for this to work.
Two batteries group 31 1100 CCA and bolt not jumpers cable's longer the cable less power for the stick.
need at least 18 volts-two 12 volt batteries will give a nice hot arc with 150-200 amps
The problem is the battery doesn't have enough volts. You definitely need to make sure the batteries are fully charged and wire 3 or 4 of them in series. Really 5 of them would be pretty close to what a welder should be running at.
3 batteries in series, you'll lay down some beautiful DC welds.
Clean the parts?
I heard you need to hook up several batteries, maybe when you get to 24 volts. Really don't know.
There's actually a field repair welder that you connect to two batteries to repair you're overland vehicle to limp it back home I forget what it's call it's a spool gun you run flux core in it
Try welding with the old car generators not the modern alternators with voltage regulators but perhaps those would work too if you jump the regulator to always be in full field output. You’ll have another backup welder for your field work and an impressive tool to boast👏✌️
cool, didn't know that
@@MeltinMetalAnthony an old school diesel instructor told me that and that was in 1990 so it probably dates back to the 1960’s
It dose work ur sousposed to use the positive as ground and negative to weld but have it right on the battery
Try it with the 50 Amp engine start setting on a battery charger and see what happens
So 1, 12v battery usually runs around 14v.... in DC welding you need 24v minimum... you need 2 batteries in series to get 24v... also in DC welding the positive is your ground... also jumper cables don't hold them tight enough to get a solid connection use a pair of vice grips in the jumper cables!!! Lastly you will never weld with a wire hanger... welding rods and wire usually have Flux core inside them, non Flux welding wire or rods require the welder to use his own Flux!!! There are 2 ways to connect batteries 1 way will double the voltage output the other will double charge capacity!!! Wire in series is negative to positive leaving a negative and positive from each battery, doubles voltage output so 2 x 12v = 24v...at whatever amp hours the batteries capacity has... but wired in parallel or negative to negative and positive to positive should double the capacity of charge staying at 12v... in theory if you get 4 Batteries and run 2 in series then the other 2 in series and then run the sets parallel you will get 24v at the capacity of 2 batteries!!! It will also work the other way around so 2 batteries in parallel and another 2 in parallel and then run the sets in series giving 24v at capacity of 2 batteries!!!
Also lastly doing this shouldn't effect the stability or life of your batteries any more then normal as long as you consider capacity of life and charging for your applications!!!
I was thinking of repurposing some old batteries from my father's mobility scooter to make a simple welder.
I’ve seen a couple Iraqi’s fixing a cattle guard with two batteries! My simple ass was like what!
Not enought voltage :) need like battery in serie as 24 volt or more to do welding need like 2 or 3 batteries
Thanx for the laugh!!
Howdy from northern Michigan brother
Yeah I've always seen this done with multiple batteries
Think you're supposed to use 2 batteries and 2 sets of cables.
If u put 2 batteries toghter and put a reostat in line on ure stinger lead u can controll the voltage
I don’t want to bug you man! I’m way amateur in welding. But at 52 it’s quite useful! Can you point me in the direction of what sticks are for what gauges of metals etc! Really like your stuff! I have no intentions of working proffesional Ly as I’m a disabled army vet, and I’m wanting the knowledge for incorporating metal for my small woodworking projects! Any and all help and direction in and all sources you would suggest! I got a Miller multimatic welder. Other than the literature given I would like to know the sticks! I also got 2 old Jeeps 1 getting on farms and 4 link rear! I’ve already mounted (by a proffesional as you!) and don’t need it for this project! As we know there are no boundaries in learning! Thank you in advance for the help!
Mike B.
Put your positive or the negative was in the negative one your welding rod
They used t sell a welder back in the 70’s that worked of a battery
Do another vid with 2 batts in series! Would like to see it work
Voltage isn’t high enough need at least two deep cell batteries 👀 maybe grind that metal clean and wire them in series positive on one battery negative on the other ..,, and make sure positive to negative to make 24 volts
It can be done with 2 batteries. 👍
Put 2 or 3 batteries together in series and it will work. Think about a mig welder. You set your voltage between say 17 and 24 volts. That's two 12 volt batteries wired in series.
You need two battery’s in series for 24volts
MMA bringing it to us raw... Looking forward to it...
It's probably those Chinese jumper cables.
might be ! but its what most fold got in there vehicle
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Just like Jake mentioned in his you need two batteries to do it I've seen it done off-road and someone break a tie rod use a piece of angle iron and weld it on with two batteries and jumper cables
I was trying to replicate a regular situation. most vehicles only have one battery
Do you need just one buss link to tie the batteries in series?
@@ryanbeard1119 yes
My friend told me about this method. He learned it from his uncle in Puerto Rico who uses it to weld gates and fences.
Take a d cell battery, open up get the carbon rod strike an arc with pos. And solder two pieces of metal. No weilding. Larger the 12 volt the better!
I get a charge out of watching this welding video......
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Like you mentioned you need a really healthy 24v battery and some thick boi jumpers.
thick boi 😂
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Try with a running vehicle being reved
Didnt know you were allowed to touch an electrode while using it
you'd really need 2 batteries minimum in series seen it done but with an actual electrode holder
Yes 24vdc in series
With 24 volts u can weld with them
Two battery’s in series is how to weld with them.
Them guys in india or wherever be welding with jumper cables and batteries. It definitely works and can work damn good if done right!
Don't set battery on the ground will drain it.
May have tried positive for ground
Use 3 batteries DCEN . Watch Wheelie Pete do it on his channel
You need closer to 24v
you need at least 2 hefty 12v car batteries
Two batteries and aluminum weld rods
Positive on workpiece negative on rod ,. Possible