I hear so many people saying that Wild Honey Pie is the worst Beatles song. I’m sorry but I have always loved that song. It’s great to sing along to. The guitars and percussion are really cool and interesting. It’s the perfect length and it’s got a simple message about just loving someone. And no other band in history could just throw a song like that on an album and say “here’s a funny little thing I just made up in the studio!” I will defend this song until I die.
NOTHING WRONG WITH wild honey pie. It's only a few seconds. It's a quirky little moment. If it was full length, that would be a bit much, but it's a nice little interlude between Obladi and Bungalow Bill.
Exactly, it's ridiculous to call Wild Honey Pie the "worst Beatles song of all time." There are others I would skip before this one and it clearly was not intended as a proper song. Why not say that the Sgt. Pepper run-out groove is the worst Beatles song all time? Answer: because it's not really a song... neither is Wild Honey Pie.
I don't judge WHP against other songs because it's not meant to be a song in the traditional sense. It's just a throwaway experiment used to bridge two other songs. It works in context.
Am I weird for thinking "Wild Honey Pie" doesn't deserve to be hated so much? I always considered it more of an interlude than a fully developed song, and the production on it was likely never meant to be anything other than quirky or experimental. It almost comes across as a very early example of "slacker rock" with its lo-fi sound.
I do not think that Honey Pie is all about Rita Tushingham but Paul may conciously or subconciously have used his knowledge of her in the song. My two main points are a) it is to me clear that the man in the song obviously has a crush on the girl in the song, why else would he be weak in the knees about the thought of meeting her b) The girl in the song was a working girl. There is no evidence to suggest that Rita ever was a sexual woker
Radio programmers already thought that Revolution the b side of Hey Jude was a defective release ...... What on Earth would they have thought about Revolution 9 ????
To me Honey Pie is essential to the White Album adding yet another genre to the amazing smorgasbord that is that masterpiece. An example of British MUSICHALL. Added to the others of country, folk, heavy rock, musique actuelle, rhythm and blues, ska, blues, doo-whop, classical, nursery rhymes, lullabies and holiday anthems.
It is the fashion this year to pick out Wild Honey Pie as the worst Beatles song, the most discordant song, etc. I'm not sure how long this trend will last, but it was never meant to be critiqued as if it were a complete song.
Revolution no. 9 is my second favourite after A Day in the Life, and I also love Wild Honey Pie - brilliant to have these mini songs and jams in these albums - they make them so special.
Well, that answers a question no one was asking. Interesting though. My only cinematic memory of Rita was her appearance early in 1965's Dr. Zhivago, as the love child of Zhivago and Lara. I remember, at the time, thinking how could two such beautiful people as Omar Sharif and Julie Christie conceive such a homely child?
Cute idea! McCartney, like Lennon, is/was the worst person for sharing song origins. He's changed his stories a thousand times on everything. You think it's also a coincidence that the lovely meter maid was named Rita?
Right, it's a miniature that acts as a transition type piece to keep the music moving...like Can You Take me Back on the last side...it's so over the top, I think it's hilarious
Honey Pie contributes to the wonderful over all weirdness of the White Album. They knew what they were doing to include it along with other quirky songs. If you grew up during Beatle mania, anticipating each unpredictable phase of their artistic progression, you probably wouldn’t want them to change a thing on any of their records. It was a magical time.
When I saw the title, my thought was “If he says anything other than Wild Honey Pie, he’s wrong.” Thank you for getting it right. My girl, around age 10, used to tell Alexa to play it every time we’d battle for “Who can pick the worst song for Alexa to play.”
I actually don't think Wild Honey Pie is the worst. I do love it for its unexpected randomness and for Paul's attempts to experiment as the band was writing through separate ideas. I understand some say it's filler, but I never had an issue with it. I respect your pick, but mine would have to be Dig It from their Let It Be album. I know it was recorded through a jam, but I never liked it. lol.
I love "Wild Honey Pie"! So many people appear to miss the purpose/function/design of that snatch of a song and the White Album as a whole. I believe the group was determined to go against George Martin's wishes and make _The Beatles_ a double, rather than single, LP -- because they wanted it to be a representation of their eclecticism and diverse influences. It succeeds in grand fashion on those terms. Too, I believe the album, as proclaimed by its simple cover before a note inside is heard, is intended as a stark departure from, if not an all-out rejection of, the Psychedelic Era. Remember, other bands, straggling behind the leaders, The Beatles, were still releasing psychedelic albums with garish covers in '68. The Beatles were always first there and first to leave. The White Album is my favourite from the group; I never skip tracks and I have no patience with edited single-album versions proposed by so-called fans of the band. ... The theory, however, on a possible subject for WHP is interesting, well-researched and certainly plausible.
The big plus for Wild Honey Pie (over Revolution 9) is: It's SHORT - so it's over quickly, while I cannot stand R.9 for 8+ min. I wish there is Not Guilty instead.
Yeah, only benefit of it being 8 minutes is that if your marathoning the Beatles Later career, then at least you know you have an 8 minute break to use the restroom.
I always figured that wild honey pie is an illustration of an emotional response in counterpoint to the stiff formality of Honey pie. And I really enjoy WHP. Anyway, great bit of detective work there...
I have to ask about the specifics that you consider when choosing “ the worst” Beatle song. Most of the varied you tube channels who attempt Beatle lists as such, seem to pull “worst” choices from 1966 thru 1970. Although any list or top choices considering the Beatles is really only personal bias, I would put it out there, most of the ‘eh’ songs are covers recorded 1963 thru 1965. Just for the record, do we consider covers, connectors, songs under 1:30, or over 5 minutes, obvious art pieces, unreleased songs, or alternate takes as contenders? Can we list “if you got trouble” and “Mr. Moonlight” on the same worst list? Let me put it this way, are we choosing from the entire pool, or are we creating a reason to create a video?
Great detective work sir! I had not known a bunch of this information before. This free 15 minute video on TH-cam is more informative and entertaining than Beatles '64 on Disney+.
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar A tenuous link is that Rita starred in "the knack and how to get it" in 1965: in one sequence she sat on an iron bed parked alongside a meter which had been properly paid for by Michael Crawford. However, she wasn't a traffic warden.
I remember hearing back in the 70’s information floating around that the white album wasn’t even a real album in the traditional sense but was a collection of outtakes bits and graftings put together by George Martin and his engineers into a releasable record. This actually makes sense. Remember what you said about timelines. By 1968 the Beatles were already broken up for practical purposes but they were still the hottest commodity in music. Huge incentive to release something. We know that the boys were at odds with each other and weren’t recording together any more. Abby road was actually Ringo’s attempt to reconcile the differences and get together in the studio like in the old days. So according to the idea that the white album was a George Martin compilation the weird stuff on there makes sense.
It smoothly paves the way from the syrupy Ob-la-di to the dark humor of Bungalow Bill. I always loved it in the context of the whole side. The stringed instruments create a pretty cool texture that you don't normally hear. The worst Beatles song is "What's the New Mary Jane." Thank God they kept it off their albums. That being said, great research. Seems Rita may have also inspired the wordplay for "Lovely Rita Meter-Maid" as Paul seems to have pulled the name out of thin air about a year or so before this song. She had two brothers, but not "a sister or two." The lifelong parallel? course of their lives is amazing. We're also talking about Paul's ups and downs with Jane Asher around this time.
Isn't "Ticket to Ride" the the intro track to the "A Taste of Honey" movie? Just imagine that song being written about Rita too gives me chills. I have a feeling that Paul and Rita hooked up somewhere during those Cavern days and mutually agreed to never mention it again.
Rita TUSHINGHAM , starred in lots of films of that era , The Knack about a young man learning to be a "swinger" and The Trap in which she plays a mute sold to a Canadian trapper and taken to live in the remote wild woods are two that she made with Oliver Reed , A Taste of Honey was a comedy drama that caused a stir with it's storyline, single pregnant girl who may be having a black mans baby and is helped by a gay man . As Dylan said the "times were a changing."
Nice theory and quite convincing, the only thing was I heard somewhere that Paul was influenced by his dad for Honey Pie, which along with the style of the music, I might imagine the subject matter to be from an earlier generation. However I am not 100% sure of this idea.
It's been awhile since I've listened to my Beatles Albums, but I remember another song. The lyric goes "lovely Rita Meter maid.." Could this also be a reference to Rita T.?
YKMN is excellent. The long version is best. It's partly based on a traditional counting rhyme for infants which was popular in the 50s in the North and probably elsewhere too.
Great work, James! The one thing you didn't mention was how you first stumbled upon Rita as your suspect. And what about that movie "The Knack"- was Sharona in that?
I just thought Wild Honey Pie was just a sort of filler between the tracks and Honey Pie the first time I heard it as a13 year old in 1973 I thought it sound sort of 1920ish that was an interesting video and I enjoyed it
This was very interesting. I have to be honest though, I'm not a fan of the song Wild Honey Pie or Honey Pie. I do love all the songs by John on the White Album.
I immediately thought it was going to be Revolution 9 when I saw the title. I was glad to see that you feel the same way as I do about that piece. However, Wild Honeypie gets a pass from me as it is so short. My vote goes to Don't Pass Me By, also from the same album. I can't stand it, and that's very unusual for me to say that about a Beatles song. I was expecting you to name some obscure actress as a candidate for Honeypie. I'm familiar with Rita and her movies, but I never knew of her connection to the Beatles. Well researched.
I think WHP sits brilliantly on The Beatles. Acoustic madness. It isn’t a standalone song but as part of a work of art it just belongs. The only track on the album I struggle with is Good Night.
Agree with Good Night. I don't think I've ever listened to it a second time. I know it was deliberately schmaltzy, but they succeeded to the point that it's unlistenable.
I’ve never heard the name of this British actress mentioned in this video, but I think that if Rita Tushingham meant something to Paul McCartney, she may very well have been the inspiration for Honey Pie, and the Beatles song Lovely Rita. Was she also a meter maid? As for Wild Honey Pie, I never thought of it as a terrible Beatles song, but it isn’t very good and it’s hardly what you’d call a song. When hearing the song when I first heard it on the White Album years ago, I thought the inspiration of that song had happened because Paul had told John he’d written a song called Honey Pie for their next album and asked John to guess the lyrics and melody of the song, and Wild Honey Pie was the result. I don’t think Wild Honey Pie was a song John thought of as Paul’s granny music. Songs that Paul wrote for the Beatles that John hated and called granny music included Honey Pie, Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, and Maxwell’s Silver Hammer.
I think James meant John thought of Honey Pie as 'granny musuc', not WHP, though he still nailed the guitar excellent solo in one take, just as he provided the piano interlude to Obladi.
@ John absolutely hated Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da. The earlier take of this song that appears on Beatles Anthology isn’t very good, but you’re right that John came up with the piano intro to Paul’s song, which gives it a rough around the edges quality to it.
It sounds like you got this right. I still wonder about the “Paul is dead” thing. Seems more and more in later interviews he’s told stuff from the past that only the real McCartney would know.
Umm Paul McCartney didn't write Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds. That was John Lennon and he never said it was a drug reference. Till his dying day he claimed it was about a drawing his son brought home from school
Sadly he wasn't that old on his dying day - it was definitely about drugs! I reckon with a little help from my friends was too. His kid may have drawn that but John had a brilliant knack for layers in his songs
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar You should know Paul, he's always revising The Beatles' history to favor with him, and one of the things he's changing in there is the credits of each Beatles' songs.
I have mixed feelings about Wild Honey Pie. On the one hand, it's obviously a lousy and rather annoying song. On the other, I do actually like the ending of it. I see it as a companion to the equally lousy and annoying Can You Take Me Back?, also recorded as part of the White Album. But with that song, they took a little snippet and pasted it onto the end of Cry Baby Cry,. And it really works well there, even making a nice bridge into Revolution 9. They should have done something similar with Wild Honey Pie. It could have been cool as ten seconds of random weirdness tacked onto the end or beginning of one of the real songs. PS I remember someone once suggesting that Wild Honey Pie should have been the leadoff song to the White Album, to make the statement that this ride was going to be something completely different. That was not a bad idea.
Saw the us albums on vinyl once in hmv. Didnt get them fo all the same reasons mentioned. Finally heard them on cd us box set and was surprised how good they were so im not missing out this time. Its another way of listening to great music.
Ah, cut it some slack; it's less than a minute long and as such, it contributes to the sense of the White Album being a sort of song collage (like the accompanying poster). The 2018 remix reveals a lot more inner detailing "ear candy" to the sound. And there's something very sweet about calling out "Honey Pie" so passionately 9 times, only to say, "I love you, Honey Pie."
Revolution 9 is not a song. It's an audio collage. My choice for worst song is a tie between Love Me Do and When I Come Home. Lennon's contributions on the harmonica notwithstanding, to my ears, the former sounds like a parody of a pop song, while the latter sounds like the first draft of a song that needed to go through several more drafts before fulfilling its potential. As for Wild Honey Pie, it is the very definition of a throwaway.
Wild Honey Pie is far superior in my opinion to plain Honey Pie. The vibrato on the guitar, which I am astonished could be achieved without an effects pedal, is novel and captivating. The Pixies did a respectable cover version as well. Grandma music is the right descriptive term for Honey Pie, the Beatles did too many songs in that style, Paul for some reason insisting on shoehorning one final example of this pile of crap onto Abbey Road with MSH.
I LOVE “Wild Honey Pie!” I’m glad Pattie Harrison dug it, too. I think your Rita Tushingham theory rings true! 🎥 🍿 🍯 🥧 🎶 p.s. I think Bungalow Bill is the the worst…….
Well, here we go. I’m a bit older and knew a lot of ( what I thought was ) “ Beatles History “ at the time. Lennon said that there would have to be both an unofficial Beatles biography as well as the “ Official “ Beatles biography that had to be approved of “ everyone involved “ ( including spouses and recognized offspring of the musicians ). Well, it seemed apparent to us in America .. or assumed THEN .… that the Honey Pie in the song was Jane Asher. . . This seems to be revealed, but still somewhat hidden in the 500 or 600 page biography of Lennon that I slogged through some ten years ago. The Taste of Honey song on Early Beatles ( or the Veejay album “ Introducing the Beatles “ ) was not an original Beatles song, but a cover of a song already around in America at the time… similar to “ ‘ Till There Was You “ from Music Man written by Meredith Wilson. They were “ Show Tunes “ simply redone by a rock band… BUT guess which recordings sold WAY more copies? ). Some unofficial Beatles relatives and “ close people “ also knew that Paul McCartney, as well as John Lennon had unrecognized offspring from dalliances with women ( one in Germany) who I’m quite sure we’re not mentioned in estate sales or trust documents left after Lennon’s death certainly ( and possibly James Paul’s either ). So, anyone left over there close to Jane .. or Peter.. Asher that you might interview to shed further light on the subject? I would hate to see real history rewritten from the perspective of the “ winning side “.. .. similar to that of Boris Pasternak’s family hiding the lives of his girlfriend and her daughter who were sent to the Gulag under Stalin and Kruschev before “ Dr. Zhivago “ escaped Soviet Russia to be published in Italy before it reached international acclaim. .. .. “ I’m just sayin’ “ ( Craig Ferguson ).
I've never been more divided on an album in my life. While The White Album contains the best material in the Beatles' catalogue ("Dear Prudence", "Happiness is a Warm Gun", "While My Guitar Gently Weeps") and is wildly inventive and varied, it's difficult for me to see at as anything else than a repository for filler. The Beatles made it a double album to fulfill their album contract and included songs which, let's face it, are standouts only for outtake discs. But this is just my opinion. The lure of the album is irresistible, and it remains possibly the most fascinating in their discography. Also, my contender for worst Beatles song is "Yellow Submarine", if only for its inclusion on Revolver. REVOLVER. Within the context of the animated movie, "Yellow Submarine" works much better--obviously.
Wild honey pie is a lotta fun. Saying it’s the worst is missing the point and taking it way too seriously. I think it’s a great track and am very glad it’s on the white album. Btw. Pixies did a great cover of it. It appears on their BBC sessions album.
By itself not very memorable. But how its placed on the white album its perfect. Alot of the songs on the album are given a boost when played as an album.
Hi James, yes it is a contender for the worst Beatles song of all time , however that record/album is so seeped into the consciousness that it just wouldn’t be the same without it 👍
You make a good case for Honey Pie being Rita Tushingham. I kept thinking you were going to reveal the mystery pie-personage as Jane Asher, but then she’s from London I believe, in the south, so that would rule her out because the lyrics specify a Northerner. Hmmm. Well, if you should ever get the chance, why not ask Sir Paul himself and remove all doubt? Good presentation, very logical progression.
That's some excellent sleuthing. I've spent my life assuming that "Honey Pie" was about somebody from Clara Bow's era, due to the retro style. And that "Wild Honey Pie" was just good old Beatles late 60's weirdness. So I never even thought to pursue an answer. Of course Sir Paul is entitled to a bit of privacy in spite of everything, and it's certainly none of my business to identify every woman who ended up in his songs. But I'd never heard of Rita Tushingham and there's certainly nothing uber private about any of this. It's more like the way Lennon put lines in "I Am The Walrus" for his childhood friend Pete Shotton. (The cafeteria food must have been nasty!) The Beatles had those boons to bestow and it's nice to see old friends getting a nod.
By the way, Paul didn't start the lie about "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" not being a drug song. That was John, who claimed it was inspired by his son Julian's drawing, which according to John, Julian had called "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds", while the song was clearly a reference to LSD. Paul was most likely just defending John since they were both in the same band.
Cool video! Fan of the channel and i've been thinking you have becomen one of the greatest inspectors couse of your childhood miss treatment. The need to question things leads to answers. Maybe not a worthy price to pay but atleast you can use this gift now. Enjoyed the video!
Controversial, because I'd have "What's The New Mary Jane", "That Means A Lot" or "If You've Got Troubles" well before Wild Honey Pie as worst Beatles song ever. Mary Jane is Yoko-fuelled nonsense, and the other two are Paul at his most lazy.
None of those three were released as Beatles songs, afaik. They must have had hours worth of outtakes on reels of tape in the studio. They were always experimenting, so arguably most of what floated through their minds and became jams or even demos never made it to the status of 'Beatles song' - which are those works and songs released on the albums, singles and EPs up to 1970. Wild Honey Pie is not bad - it is unique in sound and mercifully short
@ All three were on the Anthology albums, and are registered for the purposes of publishing, so I'd say they're fair game. Additionally, That Means A Lot was recorded and released by PJ Proby in 1965.
@@EddieG1888 Well yes.....and no. The Beatles shut up shop in 1970 - the rest is legacy releases. Not quite the same in my view, even if the remaining living members signed off on their (quarter century) late release
Thank you, James, for an extremely interesting and convincing investigation, worthy of Sherlock Holmes or Columbo! (My dad used to fancy Rita Tushingham years ago when he was alive, and made no secret of the fact!)
Not the worst Beatles song IMO. It’s just a minor blip that adds to the bizarreness of the White Album. Worst Beatles song for me goes to You Know My Name Look Up the Number
My vote for their absolute worst will always be "Mister Moonlight". The other ones mentioned thru the vid and the comments were (at worst) bumwipe, but THAT song...flush it away before it crawls out and attacks you in your sleep.
I never minded Wild Honey Pie, it's a musical interlude between two tracks that doesn't outstay its welcome, I'm kind of surprised it bothered anyone, like "Dig it" from Let it Be, which is sometimes quoted as the worst Beatles track, that one is 30 seconds and for me it was the best thing on that album! The White Album sessions do have the two worst Beatles songs though. One released, "Rocky Racoon" which is unlistenable dreck whose lyrics cause me physical pain and the track we almost got as a single, "What's the New Mary Jane" which I don't get unless it's Lennon's attempt to record the worst song ever. As a whole though, The White Album is my favourite, an album of real risk taking. Some things were bound to go wrong.
It could be Petula Clark who once recorded for a record label called "Pye", She also had a connection with John Lennon sing backup on "Give Peace a Chance."
There are some tracks I don’t consider as songs but if I had to pick the worst one it would be @your mother should know” of the magical mystery tour album that track is atrocious which isn’t a word I usually associate with The Beatles
To me, Piggies sounds like a Python sketch in Beatles song form. Apparently George wrote it around the same time he wrote Taxman, so it actually predates Python by a few years.
the 1st poster you displayed for 'a taste of honey' says WILD!!...
Yup! Well spotted :)
The "coincidences" don't end there either!
Any chance she was a Meter Maid ?
Nice spot! (12:24)
Good observation and glad to see you're awake to all the bollocks and propaganda of the past 5 years!!
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That also came to mind, since Paul most likely wrote that song and also sang it.
I hear so many people saying that Wild Honey Pie is the worst Beatles song. I’m sorry but I have always loved that song. It’s great to sing along to. The guitars and percussion are really cool and interesting. It’s the perfect length and it’s got a simple message about just loving someone. And no other band in history could just throw a song like that on an album and say “here’s a funny little thing I just made up in the studio!” I will defend this song until I die.
Well Pattie cakes really did impact 60's rock.
Fair play to you! I think on a massive sprawling album there's room for random stuff
I agree 🎉❤
pixies version is a great improvement on it
Agreed! "Wild Honey Pie" rules!!!
NOTHING WRONG WITH wild honey pie. It's only a few seconds. It's a quirky little moment. If it was full length, that would be a bit much, but it's a nice little interlude between Obladi and Bungalow Bill.
Exactly, it's ridiculous to call Wild Honey Pie the "worst Beatles song of all time." There are others I would skip before this one and it clearly was not intended as a proper song. Why not say that the Sgt. Pepper run-out groove is the worst Beatles song all time? Answer: because it's not really a song... neither is Wild Honey Pie.
Well, actually I find Bungalow Bill more tiring - and the line with Yoko is simply annoying
True and at least you can easily skip if it's not on vinyl
It’s great
@@gerhardprasent3358great tune
I don't judge WHP against other songs because it's not meant to be a song in the traditional sense. It's just a throwaway experiment used to bridge two other songs. It works in context.
Can't argue
Wild Honey Pie is better than 98.7% of all the top 100 we have in the charts right now
Agreed more original to
I d rather listen to honey pie, then any oasis record
Percent might be just a little high but a valid point.
Depends what you call better, it's probably more musical
This is the moment The Beatles became interesting, when they got weird. Even MACCA got weird, a friggin miracle.
Am I weird for thinking "Wild Honey Pie" doesn't deserve to be hated so much? I always considered it more of an interlude than a fully developed song, and the production on it was likely never meant to be anything other than quirky or experimental. It almost comes across as a very early example of "slacker rock" with its lo-fi sound.
I guess it is a prototype slacker song. Mad how many genres they invented
I do not think that Honey Pie is all about Rita Tushingham but Paul may conciously or subconciously have used his knowledge of her in the song. My two main points are
a) it is to me clear that the man in the song obviously has a crush on the girl in the song, why else would he be weak in the knees about the thought of meeting her
b) The girl in the song was a working girl. There is no evidence to suggest that Rita ever was a sexual woker
Wild Honey Pie isn’t long enough to be the worst Beatles song. It’s just a quirky little moment that’s over in a flash.
It's kind of the opposite of Rev #9 (in length) - really just mad-libs added to a double album. Agree with you - a flash and it's gone.
Revolution #9 isn't a song! It's a recording, or a performance, but not a song!
It's a Sound Collage, not a performance. Like you said, it's not a song, like so many ignorant people say it is.
It's an acid trip on a recording tape......and not a song. i agree.
John said it should have been their next single....... Lord knows what he was smoking.....
Radio programmers already thought that Revolution the b side of Hey Jude was a defective release ...... What on Earth would they have thought about Revolution 9 ????
I agree it isn't a song.
Wild Honey Pie is epic. It's just Beatles humour, but it's placed perfectly and evokes the feeling of stalking prey, perfect intro to Bungalow Bill.
I never thought about it that way
To me Honey Pie is essential to the White Album adding yet another genre to the amazing smorgasbord that is that masterpiece. An example of British MUSICHALL. Added to the others of country, folk, heavy rock, musique actuelle, rhythm and blues, ska, blues, doo-whop, classical, nursery rhymes, lullabies and holiday anthems.
Yeah I don’t actually dislike Honey Pie, but I do not like WHP at all…
You're not wrong but it's one pastiche too many for me
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar I’m with you. I skip it usually. It’s at best just an unnecessary interlude.
The White Album, is also my favorite.
Can you give me an example of the Beatles getting near ska? I need this information
It is the fashion this year to pick out Wild Honey Pie as the worst Beatles song, the most discordant song, etc. I'm not sure how long this trend will last, but it was never meant to be critiqued as if it were a complete song.
I guess it's the worst of an amazing bunch
They were just goofing around, man!
Revolution no. 9 is my second favourite after A Day in the Life, and I also love Wild Honey Pie - brilliant to have these mini songs and jams in these albums - they make them so special.
Revolution 9 is at least memorable and ground breaking but not a fun listen for me
This is crazy, but awesome! Great investigative work. How fascinating....
Love Honey Pie. Man, the White Album has so much diversity in its music....
Well, that answers a question no one was asking. Interesting though. My only cinematic memory of Rita was her appearance early in 1965's Dr. Zhivago, as the love child of Zhivago and Lara. I remember, at the time, thinking how could two such beautiful people as Omar Sharif and Julie Christie conceive such a homely child?
Cute idea! McCartney, like Lennon, is/was the worst person for sharing song origins. He's changed his stories a thousand times on everything. You think it's also a coincidence that the lovely meter maid was named Rita?
Around that time (Look at all the pictures around that time) they was all running around wearing uniform looking jacket.
In the movie, the Knack and how to get it, Rita Tushingham wears a cap that she places on a parking meter...
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@@KernowRoadcam Ha! Wow!
Noel does it even more
@thesingingaccountWhos Noel 😅ant1
It’s not meant to be a “song” 🤷
Right, it's a miniature that acts as a transition type piece to keep the music moving...like Can You Take me Back on the last side...it's so over the top, I think it's hilarious
Like revolution #9 and dig it
True
@@ericleiter6179 exactly, people just don’t understand the white album, they should stick to She Loves You etc 🤷
@@markcornish2519 I kind of rock vignette as such.
Honey Pie contributes to the wonderful over all weirdness of the White Album. They knew what they were doing to include it along with other quirky songs. If you grew up during Beatle mania, anticipating each unpredictable phase of their artistic progression, you probably wouldn’t want them to change a thing on any of their records. It was a magical time.
When I saw the title, my thought was “If he says anything other than Wild Honey Pie, he’s wrong.” Thank you for getting it right. My girl, around age 10, used to tell Alexa to play it every time we’d battle for “Who can pick the worst song for Alexa to play.”
I actually don't think Wild Honey Pie is the worst. I do love it for its unexpected randomness and for Paul's attempts to experiment as the band was writing through separate ideas. I understand some say it's filler, but I never had an issue with it. I respect your pick, but mine would have to be Dig It from their Let It Be album. I know it was recorded through a jam, but I never liked it. lol.
Yeah, Dig it barely qualifies as a miniature...let alone a song for that matter
Agree I'm not much for that one
I love "Wild Honey Pie"! So many people appear to miss the purpose/function/design of that snatch of a song and the White Album as a whole. I believe the group was determined to go against George Martin's wishes and make _The Beatles_ a double, rather than single, LP -- because they wanted it to be a representation of their eclecticism and diverse influences. It succeeds in grand fashion on those terms. Too, I believe the album, as proclaimed by its simple cover before a note inside is heard, is intended as a stark departure from, if not an all-out rejection of, the Psychedelic Era. Remember, other bands, straggling behind the leaders, The Beatles, were still releasing psychedelic albums with garish covers in '68. The Beatles were always first there and first to leave. The White Album is my favourite from the group; I never skip tracks and I have no patience with edited single-album versions proposed by so-called fans of the band. ... The theory, however, on a possible subject for WHP is interesting, well-researched and certainly plausible.
Anyone who thinks Wild Honey Pie is a bad song has never listened to it on LSD.
The big plus for Wild Honey Pie (over Revolution 9) is:
It's SHORT - so it's over quickly, while I cannot stand R.9 for 8+ min.
I wish there is Not Guilty instead.
Yeah, only benefit of it being 8 minutes is that if your marathoning the Beatles Later career, then at least you know you have an 8 minute break to use the restroom.
Revolution 9 is an avant-garde masterpiece that should be appreciated as such. You either get it or you don't, and most don't get it.
I always figured that wild honey pie is an illustration of an emotional response in counterpoint to the stiff formality of Honey pie. And I really enjoy WHP. Anyway, great bit of detective work there...
I have to ask about the specifics that you consider when choosing “ the worst” Beatle song. Most of the varied you tube channels who attempt Beatle lists as such, seem to pull “worst” choices from 1966 thru 1970. Although any list or top choices considering the Beatles is really only personal bias, I would put it out there, most of the ‘eh’ songs are covers recorded 1963 thru 1965. Just for the record, do we consider covers, connectors, songs under 1:30, or over 5 minutes, obvious art pieces, unreleased songs, or alternate takes as contenders? Can we list “if you got trouble” and “Mr. Moonlight” on the same worst list? Let me put it this way, are we choosing from the entire pool, or are we creating a reason to create a video?
Great detective work sir! I had not known a bunch of this information before. This free 15 minute video on TH-cam is more informative and entertaining than Beatles '64 on Disney+.
Any chance Rita spent some time as a Meter Maid?
if someone can find her in this role in tv or film before Peppers was released then that would be a revelation
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar A tenuous link is that Rita starred in "the knack and how to get it" in 1965: in one sequence she sat on an iron bed parked alongside a meter which had been properly paid for by Michael Crawford. However, she wasn't a traffic warden.
I remember hearing back in the 70’s information floating around that the white album wasn’t even a real album in the traditional sense but was a collection of outtakes bits and graftings put together by George Martin and his engineers into a releasable record. This actually makes sense. Remember what you said about timelines. By 1968 the Beatles were already broken up for practical purposes but they were still the hottest commodity in music. Huge incentive to release something. We know that the boys were at odds with each other and weren’t recording together any more. Abby road was actually Ringo’s attempt to reconcile the differences and get together in the studio like in the old days. So according to the idea that the white album was a George Martin compilation the weird stuff on there makes sense.
It smoothly paves the way from the syrupy Ob-la-di to the dark humor of Bungalow Bill. I always loved it in the context of the whole side. The stringed instruments create a pretty cool texture that you don't normally hear. The worst Beatles song is "What's the New Mary Jane." Thank God they kept it off their albums. That being said, great research. Seems Rita may have also inspired the wordplay for "Lovely Rita Meter-Maid" as Paul seems to have pulled the name out of thin air about a year or so before this song. She had two brothers, but not "a sister or two." The lifelong parallel? course of their lives is amazing. We're also talking about Paul's ups and downs with Jane Asher around this time.
Noel was inspired by this song when he wrote Magic Pie
hahaha
Magic Pie is an absolute banger!
Noel Harrison, Rex’s son? “Windmills Of Your Mind” is beautiful…….
More like he was eating a fray bentos
Noel once said he read the word magpie and thought it said magic pie coz he's dyslexic so he wrote magic pie but he always changes his explanations.
Isn't "Ticket to Ride" the the intro track to the "A Taste of Honey" movie? Just imagine that song being written about Rita too gives me chills. I have a feeling that Paul and Rita hooked up somewhere during those Cavern days and mutually agreed to never mention it again.
No, A Taste of Honey came out in 1961, 4 years before Ticket to Ride.
Sounds like maybe.
Great!!do you think "Lovely Rita" is about her as well???
No it's about a girl Noel met in San Francisco:)
Maxwell silver hammer would be my pick ….
I was about to make the same comment.
What about yellow Submarine...
I am still quite partial to Obladi-oblada, but yes it's up there with the worst.
Maxwell & Fool On The Hill are the top of my list. Long Long Long… another unnerving track.
I’m friends with Paul and I showed him this video. He confirmed - well done!
Hahahaha if this is true I will be a very happy man.
I think your theory is dead on target!!!
Don't forget about "Lovely Rita".
Brilliant song
@@topologyrob Yes, incredible song!
Another one of those music hall type of songs. In that light it's a good song.
One of the best songs on Sgt. Peppers. Well, they are all the best songs depending on who you ask.
Rita TUSHINGHAM , starred in lots of films of that era , The Knack about a young man learning to be a "swinger" and The Trap in which she plays a mute sold to a Canadian trapper and taken to live in the remote wild woods are two that she made with Oliver Reed , A Taste of Honey was a comedy drama that caused a stir with it's storyline, single pregnant girl who may be having a black mans baby and is helped by a gay man . As Dylan said the "times were a changing."
Looking "back" on any Beatles album, every song tells a bit of a story about the album.
Fantastic research! And a stunning revelation! I must say i agree with you.
Glad you enjoyed it
I think Obladi-Oblada is the worst. I saw Paul in concert here in NYC and it was included--yikes!
Nice theory and quite convincing, the only thing was I heard somewhere that Paul was influenced by his dad for Honey Pie, which along with the style of the music, I might imagine the subject matter to be from an earlier generation. However I am not 100% sure of this idea.
I vote for Mr
Moonlight . . . . . Also, you are taking "wild honey pie" way too seriously. Its just paul being silly
Mr Moonlight gets my vote too.
I love this song. The guitar sounds so odd I wasn't even sure it was a guitar!
Brilliant as usual James, great bt of detective work and yes i'm convinced! Would be great to put that to Paul and see if he actually confirmed it...
Cheers Smitcher
It's been awhile since I've listened to my Beatles Albums, but I remember another song. The lyric goes "lovely Rita Meter maid.." Could this also be a reference to Rita T.?
If this is true, and it likely is, than Lovely Rita at least the use of the name, was also referring to her.
You know my name ( look up the Number) ... B side of Let it be
YKMN is excellent. The long version is best. It's partly based on a traditional counting rhyme for infants which was popular in the 50s in the North and probably elsewhere too.
Also “What’s the New Mary Jane.” I love “Wild Honey Pie” and “Revolution 9.”
@@danny1959 Whats the new mary jane would've definitely be the worst but it never officially released so doesn't really count
'Dig It' would get my vote.
first 2/3 of that song is pretty good. They just needed to quite while they was a head. Then again in THE END they kind of did.
Great work, James! The one thing you didn't mention was how you first stumbled upon Rita as your suspect. And what about that movie "The Knack"- was Sharona in that?
This is so brilliantly researched. Revelatory. And probably right! Thanks, James. Superb work, as always.
I love your work, great research and well put together...
Tushingham😂
Much appreciated
I just thought Wild Honey Pie was just a sort of filler between the tracks and Honey Pie the first time I heard it as a13 year old in 1973 I thought it sound sort of 1920ish that was an interesting video and I enjoyed it
This was very interesting. I have to be honest though, I'm not a fan of the song Wild Honey Pie or Honey Pie. I do love all the songs by John on the White Album.
I could do without both honey pie's AND bungalow bill and happiness is a warm gun
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Wild Honey Pie is awesome. It's got a great primitive thump to it, like some old Delta Blues track.
I'm thrilled that someone else hates Wild Honey Pie as much as I do. Painful.
I immediately thought it was going to be Revolution 9 when I saw the title. I was glad to see that you feel the same way as I do about that piece. However, Wild Honeypie gets a pass from me as it is so short. My vote goes to Don't Pass Me By, also from the same album. I can't stand it, and that's very unusual for me to say that about a Beatles song. I was expecting you to name some obscure actress as a candidate for Honeypie. I'm familiar with Rita and her movies, but I never knew of her connection to the Beatles. Well researched.
I think WHP sits brilliantly on The Beatles. Acoustic madness. It isn’t a standalone song but as part of a work of art it just belongs. The only track on the album I struggle with is Good Night.
I like good night - pastiche but nice
Agree with Good Night. I don't think I've ever listened to it a second time. I know it was deliberately schmaltzy, but they succeeded to the point that it's unlistenable.
Excellent James ! I’m going with that !
Nice
I’ve never heard the name of this British actress mentioned in this video, but I think that if Rita Tushingham meant something to Paul McCartney, she may very well have been the inspiration for Honey Pie, and the Beatles song Lovely Rita. Was she also a meter maid?
As for Wild Honey Pie, I never thought of it as a terrible Beatles song, but it isn’t very good and it’s hardly what you’d call a song. When hearing the song when I first heard it on the White Album years ago, I thought the inspiration of that song had happened because Paul had told John he’d written a song called Honey Pie for their next album and asked John to guess the lyrics and melody of the song, and Wild Honey Pie was the result.
I don’t think Wild Honey Pie was a song John thought of as Paul’s granny music. Songs that Paul wrote for the Beatles that John hated and called granny music included Honey Pie, Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, and Maxwell’s Silver Hammer.
I think James meant John thought of Honey Pie as 'granny musuc', not WHP, though he still nailed the guitar excellent solo in one take, just as he provided the piano interlude to Obladi.
@ John absolutely hated Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da. The earlier take of this song that appears on Beatles Anthology isn’t very good, but you’re right that John came up with the piano intro to Paul’s song, which gives it a rough around the edges quality to it.
It sounds like you got this right. I still wonder about the “Paul is dead” thing. Seems more and more in later interviews he’s told stuff from the past that only the real McCartney would know.
He's always getting some Beatles/Beatles' songs histories wrong, very inconsistent.
@@RemoteOrchidJohn Lennon changed his stories constantly and that was in the 70s. No person’s memory is perfect and it’s madness to expect it to be.
Umm Paul McCartney didn't write Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds. That was John Lennon and he never said it was a drug reference. Till his dying day he claimed it was about a drawing his son brought home from school
I never said Paul wrote it - although he actually claims to have co written it
Sadly he wasn't that old on his dying day - it was definitely about drugs! I reckon with a little help from my friends was too. His kid may have drawn that but John had a brilliant knack for layers in his songs
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar You should know Paul, he's always revising The Beatles' history to favor with him, and one of the things he's changing in there is the credits of each Beatles' songs.
And Ebeneezer Goode by the Shamen wasn't about ecstacy.
Hello again big fan of your channel just wondering if your a fan of Richard Ashcroft?
I have mixed feelings about Wild Honey Pie. On the one hand, it's obviously a lousy and rather annoying song. On the other, I do actually like the ending of it. I see it as a companion to the equally lousy and annoying Can You Take Me Back?, also recorded as part of the White Album. But with that song, they took a little snippet and pasted it onto the end of Cry Baby Cry,. And it really works well there, even making a nice bridge into Revolution 9. They should have done something similar with Wild Honey Pie. It could have been cool as ten seconds of random weirdness tacked onto the end or beginning of one of the real songs.
PS I remember someone once suggesting that Wild Honey Pie should have been the leadoff song to the White Album, to make the statement that this ride was going to be something completely different. That was not a bad idea.
Yes that would have been better but I guess they though it would be listened straight through on vinyl anyway
Saw the us albums on vinyl once in hmv. Didnt get them fo all the same reasons mentioned. Finally heard them on cd us box set and was surprised how good they were so im not missing out this time. Its another way of listening to great music.
Wasn't Wild Honey Pie just a little test recording for the new 8-track they got in ?
Ah, cut it some slack; it's less than a minute long and as such, it contributes to the sense of the White Album being a sort of song collage (like the accompanying poster). The 2018 remix reveals a lot more inner detailing "ear candy" to the sound. And there's something very sweet about calling out "Honey Pie" so passionately 9 times, only to say, "I love you, Honey Pie."
Revolution 9 is not a song. It's an audio collage. My choice for worst song is a tie between Love Me Do and When I Come Home. Lennon's contributions on the harmonica notwithstanding, to my ears, the former sounds like a parody of a pop song, while the latter sounds like the first draft of a song that needed to go through several more drafts before fulfilling its potential. As for Wild Honey Pie, it is the very definition of a throwaway.
SO TRUE I HATE IT! Okay I'm gonna watch the video now :D
Wild Honey Pie is far superior in my opinion to plain Honey Pie. The vibrato on the guitar, which I am astonished could be achieved without an effects pedal, is novel and captivating. The Pixies did a respectable cover version as well. Grandma music is the right descriptive term for Honey Pie, the Beatles did too many songs in that style, Paul for some reason insisting on shoehorning one final example of this pile of crap onto Abbey Road with MSH.
I LOVE “Wild Honey Pie!” I’m glad Pattie Harrison dug it, too. I think your Rita Tushingham theory rings true! 🎥 🍿 🍯 🥧 🎶 p.s. I think Bungalow Bill is the the worst…….
Revolution 9 doesn’t fulfill the definition of what music is. Therefore it’s not music nor a song.
I like it and the Pixies cover
YES I'm not the only Pixies fan here!!!
@@dilemmacubinghere for Pixies as well.
I thought you was gonna pick the Hammer song! This did make a great video though, nice one James
Me too.
I would consider 'Revolution Number 9' not to be a song.
Well, here we go. I’m a bit older and knew a lot of ( what I thought was ) “ Beatles History “ at the time. Lennon said that there would have to be both an unofficial Beatles biography as well as the “ Official “ Beatles biography that had to be approved of “ everyone involved “ ( including spouses and recognized offspring of the musicians ). Well, it seemed apparent to us in America .. or assumed THEN .… that the Honey Pie in the song was Jane Asher. . . This seems to be revealed, but still somewhat hidden in the 500 or 600 page biography of Lennon that I slogged through some ten years ago. The Taste of Honey song on Early Beatles ( or the Veejay album “ Introducing the Beatles “ ) was not an original Beatles song, but a cover of a song already around in America at the time… similar to “ ‘ Till There Was You “ from Music Man written by Meredith Wilson. They were “ Show Tunes “ simply redone by a rock band… BUT guess which recordings sold WAY more copies? ). Some unofficial Beatles relatives and “ close people “ also knew that Paul McCartney, as well as John Lennon had unrecognized offspring from dalliances with women ( one in Germany) who I’m quite sure we’re not mentioned in estate sales or trust documents left after Lennon’s death certainly ( and possibly James Paul’s either ). So, anyone left over there close to Jane .. or Peter.. Asher that you might interview to shed further light on the subject? I would hate to see real history rewritten from the perspective of the “ winning side “.. .. similar to that of Boris Pasternak’s family hiding the lives of his girlfriend and her daughter who were sent to the Gulag under Stalin and Kruschev before “ Dr. Zhivago “ escaped Soviet Russia to be published in Italy before it reached international acclaim. .. .. “ I’m just sayin’ “ ( Craig Ferguson ).
Thank you for the
‘Revolution 9’ shout out - I too think it’s brilliant, and it also placed well within the White Album
I've never been more divided on an album in my life. While The White Album contains the best material in the Beatles' catalogue ("Dear Prudence", "Happiness is a Warm Gun", "While My Guitar Gently Weeps") and is wildly inventive and varied, it's difficult for me to see at as anything else than a repository for filler. The Beatles made it a double album to fulfill their album contract and included songs which, let's face it, are standouts only for outtake discs. But this is just my opinion. The lure of the album is irresistible, and it remains possibly the most fascinating in their discography.
Also, my contender for worst Beatles song is "Yellow Submarine", if only for its inclusion on Revolver. REVOLVER. Within the context of the animated movie, "Yellow Submarine" works much better--obviously.
I think Yellow Submarine was on the album so Ringo could sing it, they always had a song for Ringo to sing on each album.
@@Drifter127 You're absolutely right on that one.
I think Ringo should have sang "Tomorrow Never Knows". XD
Wild honey pie is a lotta fun. Saying it’s the worst is missing the point and taking it way too seriously. I think it’s a great track and am very glad it’s on the white album. Btw. Pixies did a great cover of it. It appears on their BBC sessions album.
I need to check that out love the pixies, saw them absolute rock jools Holland the other week
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By itself not very memorable. But how its placed on the white album its perfect. Alot of the songs on the album are given a boost when played as an album.
True I think you're right but it's still annoying:)
One thing about the Beatles, and the 60s in general is that it’s all connected
Hi James, yes it is a contender for the worst Beatles song of all time , however that record/album is so seeped into the consciousness that it just wouldn’t be the same without it 👍
You make a good case for Honey Pie being Rita Tushingham. I kept thinking you were going to reveal the mystery pie-personage as Jane Asher, but then she’s from London I believe, in the south, so that would rule her out because the lyrics specify a Northerner. Hmmm. Well, if you should ever get the chance, why not ask Sir Paul himself and remove all doubt? Good presentation, very logical progression.
That's some excellent sleuthing. I've spent my life assuming that "Honey Pie" was about somebody from Clara Bow's era, due to the retro style. And that "Wild Honey Pie" was just good old Beatles late 60's weirdness. So I never even thought to pursue an answer.
Of course Sir Paul is entitled to a bit of privacy in spite of everything, and it's certainly none of my business to identify every woman who ended up in his songs. But I'd never heard of Rita Tushingham and there's certainly nothing uber private about any of this. It's more like the way Lennon put lines in "I Am The Walrus" for his childhood friend Pete Shotton. (The cafeteria food must have been nasty!) The Beatles had those boons to bestow and it's nice to see old friends getting a nod.
Wild Honey Pie is great. Love your detective skills, though. Great post.
I appreciate all of your work. This one sounds plausible.
I just think the Beatles even cannot have the worst song 😅!!!
And thank you for your channel, I love your deep digging 😊
By the way, Paul didn't start the lie about "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" not being a drug song. That was John, who claimed it was inspired by his son Julian's drawing, which according to John, Julian had called "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds", while the song was clearly a reference to LSD. Paul was most likely just defending John since they were both in the same band.
Cool video! Fan of the channel and i've been thinking you have becomen one of the greatest inspectors couse of your childhood miss treatment. The need to question things leads to answers. Maybe not a worthy price to pay but atleast you can use this gift now. Enjoyed the video!
Controversial, because I'd have "What's The New Mary Jane", "That Means A Lot" or "If You've Got Troubles" well before Wild Honey Pie as worst Beatles song ever.
Mary Jane is Yoko-fuelled nonsense, and the other two are Paul at his most lazy.
I agree...and would add Hold me Tight to that list and maybe You like me too much and Little Child too
None of those three were released as Beatles songs, afaik. They must have had hours worth of outtakes on reels of tape in the studio. They were always experimenting, so arguably most of what floated through their minds and became jams or even demos never made it to the status of 'Beatles song' - which are those works and songs released on the albums, singles and EPs up to 1970. Wild Honey Pie is not bad - it is unique in sound and mercifully short
@ All three were on the Anthology albums, and are registered for the purposes of publishing, so I'd say they're fair game.
Additionally, That Means A Lot was recorded and released by PJ Proby in 1965.
@@EddieG1888 Well yes.....and no. The Beatles shut up shop in 1970 - the rest is legacy releases. Not quite the same in my view, even if the remaining living members signed off on their (quarter century) late release
I don’t mind wild honey pie. It’s a short little lark. For me their worst tune was You Know My Name (Look Up the Number).
Thank you, James, for an extremely interesting and convincing investigation, worthy of Sherlock Holmes or Columbo! (My dad used to fancy Rita Tushingham years ago when he was alive, and made no secret of the fact!)
Who’s the song about? Peggy Lipton was my guess but I think you solved it! Wait! Her name’s Rita? Like Lovely Rita, the meter maid?
Not the worst Beatles song IMO. It’s just a minor blip that adds to the bizarreness of the White Album. Worst Beatles song for me goes to You Know My Name Look Up the Number
My vote for their absolute worst will always be "Mister Moonlight". The other ones mentioned thru the vid and the comments were (at worst) bumwipe, but THAT song...flush it away before it crawls out and attacks you in your sleep.
Masterful weaving of fact to a theory. Loved it.
Thanks 😎
I never minded Wild Honey Pie, it's a musical interlude between two tracks that doesn't outstay its welcome, I'm kind of surprised it bothered anyone, like "Dig it" from Let it Be, which is sometimes quoted as the worst Beatles track, that one is 30 seconds and for me it was the best thing on that album! The White Album sessions do have the two worst Beatles songs though. One released, "Rocky Racoon" which is unlistenable dreck whose lyrics cause me physical pain and the track we almost got as a single, "What's the New Mary Jane" which I don't get unless it's Lennon's attempt to record the worst song ever. As a whole though, The White Album is my favourite, an album of real risk taking. Some things were bound to go wrong.
It could be Petula Clark who once recorded for a record label called "Pye", She also had a connection with John Lennon sing backup on "Give Peace a Chance."
There are some tracks I don’t consider as songs but if I had to pick the worst one it would be @your mother should know” of the magical mystery tour album that track is atrocious which isn’t a word I usually associate with The Beatles
Didn’t Ringo write that?
I like that tune!! Prefer it to blue jay way or flying
Actually, my least favourite Beatles song is also off this album: Piggies.
To me, Piggies sounds like a Python sketch in Beatles song form. Apparently George wrote it around the same time he wrote Taxman, so it actually predates Python by a few years.
Thanks. I just decided to pop in for a few minutes, but instead stayed for the whole time. Compelling. Well done.
YOU ARE A GENIUS DETECTIVE Great to hear you so enthusiastic
Well done James. Another great video
Glad you enjoyed it