Hi arun, I'm even kannadiga from chennai... My origin was Tumukuru but my family settled migrated to chennai during 17-18th century all our relatives are in chennai... There are even many kannadigas staying here most of them were madhva brahmins... We speak mix of kannada and tamil at home! 🙂
@@kranthi3967 my relatives are from those different areas ... But still it was not known.. Some says we were from kunigal, some says tumakuru.... But my grandpa assured that our ancestors from tumakuru, on my grandma side mandya.... But both are gowda.... 🙂
@@aravindhrajgowda2446 Oh you are Vokkaliga cool. My father's ancestors are from Tumkur and my mother's ancestors are from Bangalore and I am born and brought up in Bangalore city.
Actress Sai Pallavi also speaks baduga language... We are Tigalas and our language also kind of mixture of Kannada, tamil and telugu while talking. But we profoundly and officially use kannada. I was surprised to, when I heard our language in borders of TN and AP.
Wiki The Badagas(Kannada:ಬಡಗ ಜನರು) are an indigenous people inhabiting the Nilgiri Hills of Tamil Nadu, southern India.The term 'Badagu' in old Kannada means 'North',so 'Badaga' should mean 'Northener'. They form the largest indigenous community in the Nilgiri region, with a population of approximately 150,000 encompassing some 370-odd villages and smaller settlements. They are registered as a Backward Caste, (now referred to as other backward caste(OBC) caste). Their aspirations to be recognized as a tribe, rather than a caste, is complicated by their historical and contemporary social relations with other Nilgiri peoples, from whom they have asserted some differences and even a social precedence. For example, the Badagas have traditionally hired musicians from other Nilgiri groups (such as the Kota and Irula) to play at their social functions, which is symbolic of submission and control in that region. However, they are also known to have paid tribute in grain to other groups, such as the Todas. In general, neither stereotype of caste or tribe can be readily applied. They are most likely Dravidian by descent and they are by religion Hindus of the Saiva sect. Research has indicated they migrated to the Nilgiris from the Mysore region, sometime around 1600 after the break-up of the kingdom of Vijayanagara. They are an agricultural people and far the most numerous and wealthy of the hill tribes. Many have relocated to towns and cities of the region, and earn income from urban-style employment. Their language is Badaga, a dialect of Kannada. This is the correct representation of Badaga people ,let us see why there is confusion. Natives of the Nilgiris Philology states that in the beginning languages existed without scripts and only later scripts were developed. Hence this seems to be a justification that the badagas were completely an indegenous people to due to the absence in their script, but an ancient indegenous group would have a higher population or would have been completely extinct which questions the validity of this theory. The European Connection Badaga ethnic group from Central/East Europe for survival had to accept the local language after migration to southern India and then to the Nilgiri Hills (the nilgiris then belonged to the Vijayanagara Empire), hence the dialect of Kannada. The badagas hence adopted the language for verbal communication and did not accept the Script as it was Foreign to them. The date of the second migration from present Karnataka is probably said to be around 1500 AD - 1600 AD. But this theory is put up to convert badagas to Christianity. The same theory has been put forward in neibhouring kodagu to successful effect in conversion. To somehow show they are closer to European to spread Christianity. Genomic studies Genomic Studies i.e. a Y-chromosome DNA marker test on the badagas have resulted in the badagas belonging to the broader R1a and specifically R1a1 Haplogroup. A good percentage of people in Central Europe,East Europe,Scandinavia and the people of Punjab also belong to this R1a1 Haplogroup. Hence this has been suggestive of the fact that the badagas are of an Eurasian origin. The above statement of "origin" is further diluted based on the examination of R1a1 in South Indian tribals and Dravidian population groups Saha et al. (2005) questioned the concept of its Indo-Iranian origin. Sengupta et al. (2005) claim R1a's diverse presence including even Indian tribal and lower castes (the so-called untouchables) and populations not part of the caste system. From the diversity and distinctiveness of microsatellite Y-STR variation they conclude that there must have been an independent R1a1 population in India dating back to a much earlier expansion than the Indo-Aryan migration. The other Ethnic group from southern India which belongs to the R1a1 haplogroup are the Kodava whose customs and cultural aspects for centuries have been said to be related to the Badagas. Proto Kannada-Tamil origin Some tamil scholars say they split from Proto-Kannada-Tamil. But this is without any basis and is linguistic chuvanism of the Tamils. This theory is mainly put forward to keep the beautiful and Nilgiris and ooty within Tamil nadu. With this theory they also forced Badagas to use Incompatible Tamil Script. The widespread use of ha indicates that Badagas migrated to Nilgiris after the Pa-Ha shift happened in Kannada, that is post Hoysala. Conclusion The Badagas are very much a part of the Gowdas (Land Lords in Karnataka). Many also follow Lingayat tradition. It remained as a dialect because of the isolation in the hills. The language is also believed to be the older form of Kannada (Hale Kannada). Though the practices may be unique, the culture is very much the same as the Kannadigas. This uniqueness is by shedding out old practices and adopting new ones to keep the bond among members of the community and the other tribes like Todas, Kurumbas etc. Any Lay kannada person can understand Badaga speaking, It has retained the old charms and also some of the cultural practices. All the words in Badaga has kannada origin, they have borrowed some from neibhouring Toda, Korta , Kuruba(all Kannada tribes) and Irula (Malayalam tribe). Recently they have been using more of Tamil, because of the use of tamil script and tamil administration.
@@odaadu-4463 Tamil Literature says Kadambas are Tamils. Tamilnadu is from Mangalore. There are around five million people in Tamilnadu whose Caste Name is Tuluva Vellala.. please annex Tuluvanad to Tamilnadu.
Bro..I do not know if u are aware or not..but I'm an ethnic kannadiga living in Salem,Tamil nadu and our forefathers have settled here before like 4 to 5 centuries ago.. but we are of shetty community..
Hi bro I am even kannadiga from TN Theni district here also so many kannada speaking people's lives. We are migreted from mysour during ancient century.
Wiki The Badagas(Kannada:ಬಡಗ ಜನರು) are an indigenous people inhabiting the Nilgiri Hills of Tamil Nadu, southern India.The term 'Badagu' in old Kannada means 'North',so 'Badaga' should mean 'Northener'. They form the largest indigenous community in the Nilgiri region, with a population of approximately 150,000 encompassing some 370-odd villages and smaller settlements. They are registered as a Backward Caste, (now referred to as other backward caste(OBC) caste). Their aspirations to be recognized as a tribe, rather than a caste, is complicated by their historical and contemporary social relations with other Nilgiri peoples, from whom they have asserted some differences and even a social precedence. For example, the Badagas have traditionally hired musicians from other Nilgiri groups (such as the Kota and Irula) to play at their social functions, which is symbolic of submission and control in that region. However, they are also known to have paid tribute in grain to other groups, such as the Todas. In general, neither stereotype of caste or tribe can be readily applied. They are most likely Dravidian by descent and they are by religion Hindus of the Saiva sect. Research has indicated they migrated to the Nilgiris from the Mysore region, sometime around 1600 after the break-up of the kingdom of Vijayanagara. They are an agricultural people and far the most numerous and wealthy of the hill tribes. Many have relocated to towns and cities of the region, and earn income from urban-style employment. Their language is Badaga, a dialect of Kannada. This is the correct representation of Badaga people ,let us see why there is confusion. Natives of the Nilgiris Philology states that in the beginning languages existed without scripts and only later scripts were developed. Hence this seems to be a justification that the badagas were completely an indegenous people to due to the absence in their script, but an ancient indegenous group would have a higher population or would have been completely extinct which questions the validity of this theory. The European Connection Badaga ethnic group from Central/East Europe for survival had to accept the local language after migration to southern India and then to the Nilgiri Hills (the nilgiris then belonged to the Vijayanagara Empire), hence the dialect of Kannada. The badagas hence adopted the language for verbal communication and did not accept the Script as it was Foreign to them. The date of the second migration from present Karnataka is probably said to be around 1500 AD - 1600 AD. But this theory is put up to convert badagas to Christianity. The same theory has been put forward in neibhouring kodagu to successful effect in conversion. To somehow show they are closer to European to spread Christianity. Genomic studies Genomic Studies i.e. a Y-chromosome DNA marker test on the badagas have resulted in the badagas belonging to the broader R1a and specifically R1a1 Haplogroup. A good percentage of people in Central Europe,East Europe,Scandinavia and the people of Punjab also belong to this R1a1 Haplogroup. Hence this has been suggestive of the fact that the badagas are of an Eurasian origin. The above statement of "origin" is further diluted based on the examination of R1a1 in South Indian tribals and Dravidian population groups Saha et al. (2005) questioned the concept of its Indo-Iranian origin. Sengupta et al. (2005) claim R1a's diverse presence including even Indian tribal and lower castes (the so-called untouchables) and populations not part of the caste system. From the diversity and distinctiveness of microsatellite Y-STR variation they conclude that there must have been an independent R1a1 population in India dating back to a much earlier expansion than the Indo-Aryan migration. The other Ethnic group from southern India which belongs to the R1a1 haplogroup are the Kodava whose customs and cultural aspects for centuries have been said to be related to the Badagas. Proto Kannada-Tamil origin Some tamil scholars say they split from Proto-Kannada-Tamil. But this is without any basis and is linguistic chuvanism of the Tamils. This theory is mainly put forward to keep the beautiful and Nilgiris and ooty within Tamil nadu. With this theory they also forced Badagas to use Incompatible Tamil Script. The widespread use of ha indicates that Badagas migrated to Nilgiris after the Pa-Ha shift happened in Kannada, that is post Hoysala. Conclusion The Badagas are very much a part of the Gowdas (Land Lords in Karnataka). Many also follow Lingayat tradition. It remained as a dialect because of the isolation in the hills. The language is also believed to be the older form of Kannada (Hale Kannada). Though the practices may be unique, the culture is very much the same as the Kannadigas. This uniqueness is by shedding out old practices and adopting new ones to keep the bond among members of the community and the other tribes like Todas, Kurumbas etc. Any Lay kannada person can understand Badaga speaking, It has retained the old charms and also some of the cultural practices. All the words in Badaga has kannada origin, they have borrowed some from neibhouring Toda, Korta , Kuruba(all Kannada tribes) and Irula (Malayalam tribe). Recently they have been using more of Tamil, because of the use of tamil script and tamil administration.
Many places in Udagamandalam district have Kannada names. Eg: Doddabetta (highest peak in tamilnadu), Kelakunda (Kilkunda) , Melkunda, manjoor, Nadubetta (naduvattam), malapurahatti, Gundahatti, kalhatti, Hulikal, Masinigudi, Mavinhalla, bandishola, devarashola, hullatti, nanjanaad etc etc Udagamandalam district belonged to old Mysore region until British put it under Madras presidency.
Mysore Maharaj's palace in ooty is converted into VVIP guest house and Diwaan's palace is converted into KSTDC lodge by Govt of Karnataka. Toda tribes living in botanical park are one of the kannada tribes.
The Vedasandur MLA Constituency in Dindigul District of Tamilnadu is a Kannadiga Constituency. Populated with Vokkaliga Gowdas. The MLA either from DMK or ADMK is always a Vokkaliga Gowda.
He is not kannadiga. Gowda originated was Gounder community pure tamilian people. Tamil nadu Gowda mother tongue is Tamil. Don't compare your kannada Gowda community.
@@mahamahendran9306 😂 o shit GOWDAS CAMUNITY ALWAYS KANNADIGAS BECOUSE GANGAS , AND KALBRAS ARE VOKKALIGA GOWDAS THY ROLE 300CE TO 1000CE THAIR CAPITAL MYSURU TALAKADU THAIR LANGAUGE IS KANNADA KONGU NADU ALSO PART OF GANGAS (GOUNDER)
I am Tuluva residing in TamilNadu and trust me, the way you guys tried to speak Tamil was the exact same how I had attempted initially. Mix Tulu ,Kannada & bits of Tamil🤣🤣🤣
True, Tamil nadu is also like karnataka. Full of diverse population with people of different languages and backgrounds. While speaking our mother tongue, we used to have influence from other languages as well.
Iam not badaga ,but there are many types of kannada speaking communities(vokkaliga ,naickar etc),with mix of Tamil,telugu...but we speak kannada like tamil pronunciation....eg:for yes u say 'Howdu'' we say 'aaudu'..we eliminate (ha) sounds...i think the kannada which is spoken now in city is no close to us..once when i went Bangalore one person said there is no such word i speak,but when i see old kannada movies ,old songs, dialects i wondered some of our words have used there ...
Hale Ganada and Baduga are almost same!! It's because the tribes which went out of Karnataka were isolated from the other languages and so is the same till date but when it comes to Bangalore Kannada it's mixed with tamil,telugu and kannada,the same goes with north kannada which is influenced with marathi but this Baduga has held the root of Old Kannada!!
@@ayanquereshi you are right,we also have some old kannada words,only difference is badaga settled in hills,we stayed in plains And there is also differences in pronunciation like Eg: to eat,our community says "anna unnu",some other communities say"koolu unnu",in baduga not sure...but i could understand it...baduga speakers mostly speak fast than us😅we speak everything like how tamil is spoken....so badaga sounds more like karnataka dialects for we kannadigas....
While coming from Ooty to Mysore I had to get down in a village called Naduvattam, was surprised to see so many people speaking in Kannada. Its a village which has both Tamilians & Kannadigas, but even the Tamilians speak fluent Kannada.
Baduga is a distinct language belongs to Dravidian Languages. It is more closer to Kannada than Tamil. Comparing to Tamil Baduga language has adopted only very few Sanskrit words.
Sir like same on the way from ooty to gudaluru...u will find naduvattam (ನಡವಟ್ಟಂ )ಅಂತ ...but ನಾವು local ಕರೆಯೊದು Nadubetta ನಡುಬೆಟ್ಟ ಅಂತ...they r from ಮಂಡ್ಯ, ಮಳವಳ್ಳಿ,ಮೈಸೂರು,ಚಾ.ನಗರ....ಮಾತಾಡೋದುಕನ್ನಡನೆ ಆದರೆ ಇಲ್ಲಿ ಕರೆಯೂದು ಬಡುಗ ಅಂತ....
@@captain_lewi9505 ಬಡಗಣ ಉತ್ತರ ತೆಂಕಣ ದಕ್ಷಿಣ ಮೂಡಣ ಪೂರ್ವ ಪಡುವಣ ಪಶ್ಚಿಮ ಕೊಂಕಣ ವಂಕಣ ಕೊಂಗಣ ಪಲ್ಲಣ ಬಗ್ಗಣ ಅಗ್ಗಣ ಬೆಂಕಣ ಉರ್ಗಣ ಉಗ್ಗಣ ಒಂದೊಂದು ಕನ್ನಡ ಪದಕ್ಕು ಕನ್ನಡದ್ದೆ ಅರಿಮೆಯ ತಿಳುಮುಗೆ ಇದೆ. ಮೂಡುವ,ಹುಟ್ಟುವ,ಸಾರುವ ದಿಕ್ಕು,ಏರಮಗೆ,ಹಾರ್ಮರ್ಳೆ,ಪೊದ್ದಳೆ,ಹೊತ್ತಣ,ಬೆಳಂಗಿರ್ಳೆ,ಸುಡಾರ್ಳು,ಕಾಲಿಮಾರ್ಳೆ,ಕಾಣಂಗಳ -ಮೂಡಣದಿಕ್ಕು ಪಡುವಣ,ಬೀಳುವ,ಮಲಗುವ,ಪಡುವ,ಮುಳಂಗ್ಲ,ಮರೆಜ್ಸೇಯಿರ,ಕಾಣದ್ಪಗಲು,ಮರುದಿಂಗಳಾಸಣೆ,ಜಾರಳೆ,ಮರ್ಜಾರ್ಣೆ,ಪನಂಗಣ,ಮಲ್ಗಿಳೆ,ಹೊಜ್ಜಾರ್ಮರೆ,ಬಿಜ್ಜಣೆ,ಬಿದ್ರಳ್ಯಣೆ -ಪಡುವಣ ದಿಕ್ಕು ಬಡಗಣ,ಬೆಟ್ಟಕಣ,ಸೆಗಣ,ಉಡಗಣ,ಬೆವಗಣ,ಬಿಸಣ,ಅಂಟಳ,ಕಾದಳ,ಕಮರಳ,ಅಬೆಣ,ಹೊಡಣ,ಶಮಣ,ಕಾಲೆಣ,ಕುದಣ -ಬಡಗಣ ದಿಕ್ಕು. ತೆಂಕಣ,ತೇನಳೆ,ಜಿನಣ,ತಂಬಣ,ಚಳಣ,ಶಳೆಳ,ಕೊರವಣ,ಮಜ್ಜಣ,ಮಂಚ್ಸಳ,ಹಿಮಣ,ಗಾಳ್ವಣ,ಬೀಸಳ,ವಿಸರಳೆ,ವೀಶರ್ಳ,ತನ್ನಂಗಳ,ತಮ್ಗಣ,ತಂಪೀಯಿಕ,ತಣ್ಣರಳ,ದಂಪುದೀಣ,ಡನ್ನಂಕಳ,ಸಲ್ಲಂಗಿಳೆ,ಟಂಬೀಸಳು,ಟಮಾಸಳ,ತೆನಗನ್ನಳ,ತೇಂಗಳೆ,ಜೇನರ್ಳೆ,ತಣ್ಣೊಳಲು,ತಂಬಿರ್ಳೆ,ತಾಂಡಳ್ಯ-ತೆಂಕಣದಿಕ್ಕು ಕನ್ನಡದ ಪದಗಳನ್ನ ಬಳಸೋಣ ಸರ್
@@ಜಾಣಪದ್ಯಗಳು ತುಂಬಾ ಚೆನ್ನಾಗಿ ಬಿಡಿಸಿದ್ದಿರಿ, ಯಾರೇ ಆದರೂ ಕನ್ನಡ ಒರೆಗಳನ್ ಬಳಸಿದೊಡೆ ಕಿಳಿರಿಮೆ ಅಲ್ಲ , ಅದೆ ತರ ಸಕ್ಕವನ್ನ ಬಳಸಿದರೆ ಗರಿಮೆಯಲ್ಲ , ನಮ್ಮ ಕನ್ನಡದ ಎಸ್ಟು ಒರೆಗಳು ಕಾಣೆ ಆಗಿವೆ ಅವನ್ನ ಬಳಕೆಗೆ ತರ ಬೇಕೂ. ವಂದನೆ,ಅಭಿನಂದನೆಗಳು = ನಲವರಿಕೆಗಳು (ಕ) ನಮಸ್ಕಾರ=ತುಳಿಲ್(ತುಳಿಲು) ಧನ್ಯವಾದಗಳು=ನನ್ನೀ.
Sir kinnakore to thaisole ಮದ್ಯ ಒಂದು ಟೀ ಎಸ್ಟೇಟ್ ಇದೆ ಅಲ್ಲಿನು ಫುಲ್ ಕನ್ನಡದವರೇ ಇರೋದು ನಾನು ನೇ ಅಲ್ಲಿ ಹುಟ್ಟಿ ಬೆಳೆದಿರುವುದು ಈಗ ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಲ್ಲಿ ಇರೋದು.... ಎರಡು ಕಾಡೆಮ್ಮೆ ಸೂಪರ್
When I explored Tamilnadu during my 6yrs of work stay....Madhurai,Gudiatham Coimbatore( konganadu), Rasipuram, Erode( kumarapalyam), ooty(Badagas n other kannadiga communities)....they all have their own dialects yet speak kannada....they behaviour too very soft spoken n disciplined never mingle up with others much same like us kannadigas here.....highly qualified and well do to though... Lovely vlog...it was astonishing to see your friend wear his gloves and immediately tries to remove the moment he listens the boys speaking kannada in surprise....👌👌😃😃😃
BADUGA IS A TRIBE FROM NILGIRI HILLS OOTY TAMILNADU. THEY ARE VERY GOOD AT HEART. DECENT AND EDUCATED PEOPLE. They are basically from KARNATAKA, in TIPPU SULTAN'S RULE, these people were TORCHERED by TIPPU SULTAN SOLDIERS, So they slowly left MYSORE AND GUDELPET Karnataka villages and reached the NILGIRIS FOR PEACEFUL LIFE.
Not actually during Tippu's rule. We have a long history. Within the Badugu population there are many clans. The history of migration from plains to hills during Tippu's rule belongs only to a particular segment of the population. It cannot be the history of the entire Badugu speaking population. 😊
@@nijanthhg2165 The original tribes of the Niligiris were the Todas which belong to the Tamil Culture. People from Karnataka ran away from mysore and came here to take Todas land settlements.. Badagas are descendents from Kanadigas...
Baduga are 50 percent tamil and only their language is 50 percent mixed with kannada and they use tamil letters they follow tamil culture they celebrate tamil festivals so you don't want to say jai baduga they are our peoples belongs to tamilnadu
@@mylifemyrules308 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ baduga avre neevu mysore indha tamilnadu hills ge migration agiddhu history nodi badagu is derived from Kannada but tamil got mixed because of imposition badugu pure related to Kannada
Nilgiris was a part of earstwhile Mysore Kingdom. Most of the villages, and towns and estates are owned by Gowdas. In fact, the main Street of Ooty downtown is named after KempeGowda. I did apk to one of the shop owner there, and they were Kannadigas too. Salem, Coimbatore, Pollachhi,Nilgiris, parts of Theni and Madurai also has a significant Kannada population.
Wiki The Badagas(Kannada:ಬಡಗ ಜನರು) are an indigenous people inhabiting the Nilgiri Hills of Tamil Nadu, southern India.The term 'Badagu' in old Kannada means 'North',so 'Badaga' should mean 'Northener'. They form the largest indigenous community in the Nilgiri region, with a population of approximately 150,000 encompassing some 370-odd villages and smaller settlements. They are registered as a Backward Caste, (now referred to as other backward caste(OBC) caste). Their aspirations to be recognized as a tribe, rather than a caste, is complicated by their historical and contemporary social relations with other Nilgiri peoples, from whom they have asserted some differences and even a social precedence. For example, the Badagas have traditionally hired musicians from other Nilgiri groups (such as the Kota and Irula) to play at their social functions, which is symbolic of submission and control in that region. However, they are also known to have paid tribute in grain to other groups, such as the Todas. In general, neither stereotype of caste or tribe can be readily applied. They are most likely Dravidian by descent and they are by religion Hindus of the Saiva sect. Research has indicated they migrated to the Nilgiris from the Mysore region, sometime around 1600 after the break-up of the kingdom of Vijayanagara. They are an agricultural people and far the most numerous and wealthy of the hill tribes. Many have relocated to towns and cities of the region, and earn income from urban-style employment. Their language is Badaga, a dialect of Kannada. This is the correct representation of Badaga people ,let us see why there is confusion. Natives of the Nilgiris Philology states that in the beginning languages existed without scripts and only later scripts were developed. Hence this seems to be a justification that the badagas were completely an indegenous people to due to the absence in their script, but an ancient indegenous group would have a higher population or would have been completely extinct which questions the validity of this theory. The European Connection Badaga ethnic group from Central/East Europe for survival had to accept the local language after migration to southern India and then to the Nilgiri Hills (the nilgiris then belonged to the Vijayanagara Empire), hence the dialect of Kannada. The badagas hence adopted the language for verbal communication and did not accept the Script as it was Foreign to them. The date of the second migration from present Karnataka is probably said to be around 1500 AD - 1600 AD. But this theory is put up to convert badagas to Christianity. The same theory has been put forward in neibhouring kodagu to successful effect in conversion. To somehow show they are closer to European to spread Christianity. Genomic studies Genomic Studies i.e. a Y-chromosome DNA marker test on the badagas have resulted in the badagas belonging to the broader R1a and specifically R1a1 Haplogroup. A good percentage of people in Central Europe,East Europe,Scandinavia and the people of Punjab also belong to this R1a1 Haplogroup. Hence this has been suggestive of the fact that the badagas are of an Eurasian origin. The above statement of "origin" is further diluted based on the examination of R1a1 in South Indian tribals and Dravidian population groups Saha et al. (2005) questioned the concept of its Indo-Iranian origin. Sengupta et al. (2005) claim R1a's diverse presence including even Indian tribal and lower castes (the so-called untouchables) and populations not part of the caste system. From the diversity and distinctiveness of microsatellite Y-STR variation they conclude that there must have been an independent R1a1 population in India dating back to a much earlier expansion than the Indo-Aryan migration. The other Ethnic group from southern India which belongs to the R1a1 haplogroup are the Kodava whose customs and cultural aspects for centuries have been said to be related to the Badagas. Proto Kannada-Tamil origin Some tamil scholars say they split from Proto-Kannada-Tamil. But this is without any basis and is linguistic chuvanism of the Tamils. This theory is mainly put forward to keep the beautiful and Nilgiris and ooty within Tamil nadu. With this theory they also forced Badagas to use Incompatible Tamil Script. The widespread use of ha indicates that Badagas migrated to Nilgiris after the Pa-Ha shift happened in Kannada, that is post Hoysala. Conclusion The Badagas are very much a part of the Gowdas (Land Lords in Karnataka). Many also follow Lingayat tradition. It remained as a dialect because of the isolation in the hills. The language is also believed to be the older form of Kannada (Hale Kannada). Though the practices may be unique, the culture is very much the same as the Kannadigas. This uniqueness is by shedding out old practices and adopting new ones to keep the bond among members of the community and the other tribes like Todas, Kurumbas etc. Any Lay kannada person can understand Badaga speaking, It has retained the old charms and also some of the cultural practices. All the words in Badaga has kannada origin, they have borrowed some from neibhouring Toda, Korta , Kuruba(all Kannada tribes) and Irula (Malayalam tribe). Recently they have been using more of Tamil, because of the use of tamil script and tamil administration.
@king of king @king of king then why you kongas coming to Bangalore, coming to Bangalore and working in road sweeping, drainage works , construction workrs that's it, don't think that poor people are landlords here 😂😂, poor people kongas they will do any job for hundreds 😂😂, and I think you're a fool, Bangalore, karnataka is the dynamic city in the whole world, your Tamil lowda nadu still suffering without water 😂, and most of the cities are slums 💯💯💯
@@chandru4390 don't call them slum! Even I'm kannadiga from Chennai.. But they are not like we thought they are even more friendly to us! Tamil Nadu even more developed infrastructure and socially... It was the most progressive state in India in all criteria.. Don't be racist by call them konga!.. People like you are shame to kannadigas.. Mind your language!
@@chandru4390 kundiga naye how many nobel prize winners in your state how many world chess champion winners in your state how many oscar winner in your state how many bharatratna winners in your state
Yes Badugas are people from mysore- chamarajnagar who migrated to Nilgiris (Ooty) 3-5 centuries back, Badaga language is nothing but kannada used in medieval ages
Hundreds of years ago Kannada speaking communities from Mysore have moved/ran to mountain ranges of Ooti for variety of reasons and and decided to stay there as indigenous people of that land. Later though the Kannada got refined in Karnataka the same old Kannada retained its genuinity as Badaga in Nilgiri Districts. There is Badaga Nadu Sangha in Seshadripuram, Bangalore.
Ooty was part of Kannada speaking areas, even names in Ooty are in Kannada as Ooty is the actual border , Tamil settlements became more during British times , as tea plantation became more . Badaga is the regional dialect of Kannada in Ooty , Ooty is the place where Kannada and Tamil languages meet.
Badaga nadu sangha is not of the badagas that live in Ooty. There is a sub sect of smartha srahmins called badaga nadu brahmins. The badaga nadu sangha of sheshadripuram is their organisation. I belong to that subsect as well.
ಬಡಗ ಭಾಷೆ ಕನ್ನಡವನ್ನು ತುಂಬಾ ಹೋಲುತ್ತದೆ. ಊಟಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ಹೆಚ್ಚು ಕಡಿಮೆ 8 ದ್ರಾವಿಡ ಭಾಷೆಗಳಿವೆ. ಬಡಗ, ತೋಡ, ಇರುಳ, ಕೋಟ, ಕುರುಂಬ ಮುಂತಾದ ಬುಡಕಟ್ಟು ಜನಾಂಗಗಳು ಅವರದ್ದೇ ಆದ ಭಾಷೆಯನ್ನು ಮಾತನಾಡುತ್ತಾರೆ. ಅವರ ಸಂಸೃತಿ ತುಂಬಾ ವಿಶಿಷ್ಟ ಮತ್ತು ಸುಂದರವಾಗಿದೆ. ಬ್ರಿಟೀಷರ ಆಳ್ವಿಕೆಯ ಮೊದಲು ಊಟಿ ನಮ್ಮ ಮೈಸೂರು ಸಂಸ್ಥಾನದ ಭಾಗವಾಗಿತ್ತು. ಊಟಿಯಲ್ಲಿರುವ ಅತೀ ಎತ್ತರದ ಪ್ರದೇಶ "ದೊಡ್ಡ ಬೆಟ್ಟ" ಬಡಗ ಹೆಸರಾಗಿದೆ.
ಕಿನ್ನಕುರೈ ಮುಟ್ಟಿ ಬಂದಿರಿ. ಬಡುಗ ಕನ್ನಡ ಭಾಷೆಯ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಮಾಹಿತಿ ಸಿಕ್ಕರೆ ಚೆನ್ನಾಗಿತ್ತು. ವಂದನೆಗಳು. You have touched kinnakurai and returned. Had you given information about Baduga language, would have been wonderful.
Liked seeing your surprised face when the language sounded like kannada ..that was a nice shot you retained... it was tulu, kanada and baduga all in the same frame .. baduga people either are proud to accept its closely related to kannada or being in tamilnadu they are not so proud that its related kannada. :)...no one was coming forward to explain more about the language:) ...nice vlog
Yes.. Vokkaliga Gowda community forms the major chunk of population in Ooty district after Tamils and Badagaru. Badaga tribe too has its origin in Karnataka and speak a Kannada dialect. Many of my relatives are settled in Ooty as their ancestors migrated there during drought in old Mysore region of Karnataka in 1800s.
Badaga is not a tribal community, it’s propaganda by certain sections to get ST status, the surname of Badaga Gowdas 80% of badagas is gowder, we are ethnically related to vokkaliga gowdas, but due to loss of contact for 700 yrs, Badaga did not refine like kannada….
Badaga or Badagana- means "North" in old kannada Kana in kannada refers to directions and provinces in that area. Moodana - east Paduvana- west Tenkana - south Badagana- north Kongana- south east Vengana -north east Konkana- north west Cherana - south west These directions can be found in old kannada compositions
In Tulu we use this word Mooday, Paday, Badagaday words.... If you see there two towns in Tulu Nadu/coastal Karnataka where in west there is a town Padubidri and in East there is a place called moodabidri where first part literally means west and east.
Yeah mine is other way round, my ancestors are from Chennai but apparently they settled in Karnataka and we were called Bangalore Iyengars!! Our Tamil has become KAMIL 😂Kannada mix Tamil
Sir we had school trip to Ooty..most of them speak and write Kannada very well..as it was one time belonging to karnataka.. during rajeev gandhi period tamil nadu gave mahadeshwara betta to karnataka..as told by the tourist..over there..
There are lot of people speaking and writing good Tamil in Bangalore and the whole of Karnataka. Once Most of Karnataka was part of Tamil Nadu. We need bangalore and Mysore back to integrate to Tamilnadu.
The kids are so cute n like Gods....so innocent, admiring the bikes....and welcoming travelers ....... Its a bliss to enjoying your drive cuddled by mother nature!!!
Wiki The Badagas(Kannada:ಬಡಗ ಜನರು) are an indigenous people inhabiting the Nilgiri Hills of Tamil Nadu, southern India.The term 'Badagu' in old Kannada means 'North',so 'Badaga' should mean 'Northener'. They form the largest indigenous community in the Nilgiri region, with a population of approximately 150,000 encompassing some 370-odd villages and smaller settlements. They are registered as a Backward Caste, (now referred to as other backward caste(OBC) caste). Their aspirations to be recognized as a tribe, rather than a caste, is complicated by their historical and contemporary social relations with other Nilgiri peoples, from whom they have asserted some differences and even a social precedence. For example, the Badagas have traditionally hired musicians from other Nilgiri groups (such as the Kota and Irula) to play at their social functions, which is symbolic of submission and control in that region. However, they are also known to have paid tribute in grain to other groups, such as the Todas. In general, neither stereotype of caste or tribe can be readily applied. They are most likely Dravidian by descent and they are by religion Hindus of the Saiva sect. Research has indicated they migrated to the Nilgiris from the Mysore region, sometime around 1600 after the break-up of the kingdom of Vijayanagara. They are an agricultural people and far the most numerous and wealthy of the hill tribes. Many have relocated to towns and cities of the region, and earn income from urban-style employment. Their language is Badaga, a dialect of Kannada. This is the correct representation of Badaga people ,let us see why there is confusion. Natives of the Nilgiris Philology states that in the beginning languages existed without scripts and only later scripts were developed. Hence this seems to be a justification that the badagas were completely an indegenous people to due to the absence in their script, but an ancient indegenous group would have a higher population or would have been completely extinct which questions the validity of this theory. The European Connection Badaga ethnic group from Central/East Europe for survival had to accept the local language after migration to southern India and then to the Nilgiri Hills (the nilgiris then belonged to the Vijayanagara Empire), hence the dialect of Kannada. The badagas hence adopted the language for verbal communication and did not accept the Script as it was Foreign to them. The date of the second migration from present Karnataka is probably said to be around 1500 AD - 1600 AD. But this theory is put up to convert badagas to Christianity. The same theory has been put forward in neibhouring kodagu to successful effect in conversion. To somehow show they are closer to European to spread Christianity. Genomic studies Genomic Studies i.e. a Y-chromosome DNA marker test on the badagas have resulted in the badagas belonging to the broader R1a and specifically R1a1 Haplogroup. A good percentage of people in Central Europe,East Europe,Scandinavia and the people of Punjab also belong to this R1a1 Haplogroup. Hence this has been suggestive of the fact that the badagas are of an Eurasian origin. The above statement of "origin" is further diluted based on the examination of R1a1 in South Indian tribals and Dravidian population groups Saha et al. (2005) questioned the concept of its Indo-Iranian origin. Sengupta et al. (2005) claim R1a's diverse presence including even Indian tribal and lower castes (the so-called untouchables) and populations not part of the caste system. From the diversity and distinctiveness of microsatellite Y-STR variation they conclude that there must have been an independent R1a1 population in India dating back to a much earlier expansion than the Indo-Aryan migration. The other Ethnic group from southern India which belongs to the R1a1 haplogroup are the Kodava whose customs and cultural aspects for centuries have been said to be related to the Badagas. Proto Kannada-Tamil origin Some tamil scholars say they split from Proto-Kannada-Tamil. But this is without any basis and is linguistic chuvanism of the Tamils. This theory is mainly put forward to keep the beautiful and Nilgiris and ooty within Tamil nadu. With this theory they also forced Badagas to use Incompatible Tamil Script. The widespread use of ha indicates that Badagas migrated to Nilgiris after the Pa-Ha shift happened in Kannada, that is post Hoysala. Conclusion The Badagas are very much a part of the Gowdas (Land Lords in Karnataka). Many also follow Lingayat tradition. It remained as a dialect because of the isolation in the hills. The language is also believed to be the older form of Kannada (Hale Kannada). Though the practices may be unique, the culture is very much the same as the Kannadigas. This uniqueness is by shedding out old practices and adopting new ones to keep the bond among members of the community and the other tribes like Todas, Kurumbas etc. Any Lay kannada person can understand Badaga speaking, It has retained the old charms and also some of the cultural practices. All the words in Badaga has kannada origin, they have borrowed some from neibhouring Toda, Korta , Kuruba(all Kannada tribes) and Irula (Malayalam tribe). Recently they have been using more of Tamil, because of the use of tamil script and tamil administration.
I'm a Kannadiga but Nilgiris is my eternal love.. I don't know why, but despite having visited there at least a 100 times, I still don't get bored going there
There are more villages in interior Tamil Nadu speaking telugu, Kannada and malayalam peoples. But nearer to me more telugu speaking peoples❤. Love from Tamil Nadu bro
Sakkath itthu .. sooo vast and diverse our country ❤️ 🌷 baduga language ❤️❤️ .. the more we take the inner route the more we might come across.. ut was lovely ❤️
Bro even im an baduga and im from Nilgiris and u missed some mesmerizing places.....i subscribed ur channel next time if you visit Nilgiris leave an announcement im there to guide you exploring nilgiris....👍👍👍👍
I am From Tamil Nadu, I've seen many tamilians are living in Shimoga district and their mother tongue is tamil. But I don't know, how they came to west Karnataka. why don't you relay a video about their life and culture.
They are settlers from CH Nagar during Malik Kafurs age and Vijayanagara. Theyre not STs They are called Badaga ...in Kannada Badaga means north. So they are northerners to native Ooty tribes like Kurumba, Toda and Kotas.
Even am From Tamilnadu.. But my mother tongue is kannada... In karanataka the most populated 3 Largest caste is namdhe aavla.....North Karanataka thali all are ours only........ Jai sangoli rayanna etc.. ,....... I can proudly say that. Vijayanagar dynasty was build ours only..... Badugas is just a caste the lived in ooty some people in Coimbatore etc...... That's all they didn't create a very big history in India....... But by saying kuruba Gowda each everyone known in through out India.... Y because they have studied in books, novels, 📰, magaziness etc.......
Most people in the nilgiris can communicate in kannada badaga malayalam...it's a tri lingual district..and the language u speak is Tulu guess...can understand ur lang too...all the best..
Nilgiri district was part of madras from 18th century itself , there it was part of coimbatore district, after that separate nilgiri district was carved out by taking gudalur taluk from kerala and taking ooty,conooor taluks from coimbatore, and then kotagiri taluk separated from coonoor and hence currently nilgiris has 6 taluks ooty,kotagiri,coonoor,gudalur,pandalur etc, however before tippu sulthan it was be ruled by kannadiga kings for many years even before 11th century again during sangam period it was ruled by chera kings, hence this dist has mixed cultures which is little bit diffrent culture than rest of tamilnadu, but many people can communicate or understand in tamil,kannada,malayalam languages. It has significant population of kannadigas(majorly in Ooty town, naduvattam,masinagudi and sholur side), both tamil and malayalam equally majority in gudalur,pandalur areas, both tamils and badugas equally in ooty,coonoor and kotagiri taluks, hence tamils present in all taluks of nilgiris. Kannadigas present significant only in few areas (I,e ooty town,naduvattam,sholur and masinagudi side), gudalur and pandalur has 50% of both tamil and malayalam and few 10% kannadiga migrant estate workers, gudalur side culture is similar to kerala (wayanad,malappuram).
These kanadigas once ran away from mysore to settle in niligirs in Tamilnadu and called themselves badagas. Todas who were the original tribes in Niligiris who belonged to Tamil Culture.
Those are lingayat and vokkaligas who came from Mysore and not badagas. Before posting something, one needs to know the difference between lingayat, vokkaligas and badagas.
@@praneshhaldorai79 As stated in Wikipedia "The name Badaga, meaning 'northerner', comes from Old Kannada Badagana, meaning 'north.'According to the Badaga oral tradition, their ancestors were presumed to be Vokkaligas who migrated from the plains of Mysore to avoid Muslim persecution
@@funguy6565 That's not correct. The Badaga community holds United Nations Accreditation. Which means, only the indigenous community can have such privilege. Also, the " purananooru " one of the oldest Tamil literature has references about badaga. If you compare, the dates between tipu sultan and purananooru, the purananooru predates tipu sultan's time.
@@praneshhaldorai79 Moreover one of the oldest and true inheritance of Niligiris are the TODAS... They themselves dont have any references about The badaga mentions from their old references.
@@praneshhaldorai79 Mere claims dont prove your inheritance to the land, there needs to be Support to your claims. The UN is an organization from outside India which might beleive the stories cooked up by todays badagas, as the only reference of information is from the badagas themselves.
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Hi arun, I'm even kannadiga from chennai... My origin was Tumukuru but my family settled migrated to chennai during 17-18th century all our relatives are in chennai... There are even many kannadigas staying here most of them were madhva brahmins... We speak mix of kannada and tamil at home! 🙂
Good to see a fellow Tumakurean 👍
U said to me ur orgin is frm mandya👍👍👍👍
@@kranthi3967 my relatives are from those different areas ... But still it was not known.. Some says we were from kunigal, some says tumakuru.... But my grandpa assured that our ancestors from tumakuru, on my grandma side mandya.... But both are gowda.... 🙂
@@aravindhrajgowda2446 Oh you are Vokkaliga cool. My father's ancestors are from Tumkur and my mother's ancestors are from Bangalore and I am born and brought up in Bangalore city.
Hello Folks. I am Alien👽 Alanda from North Sentinel Island and I can speak most of the language you guy's are talking about.
Actress Sai Pallavi also speaks baduga language... We are Tigalas and our language also kind of mixture of Kannada, tamil and telugu while talking. But we profoundly and officially use kannada. I was surprised to, when I heard our language in borders of TN and AP.
Thats nice to know.
Wiki
The Badagas(Kannada:ಬಡಗ ಜನರು) are an indigenous people inhabiting the Nilgiri Hills of Tamil Nadu, southern India.The term 'Badagu' in old Kannada means 'North',so 'Badaga' should mean 'Northener'.
They form the largest indigenous community in the Nilgiri region, with a population of approximately 150,000 encompassing some 370-odd villages and smaller settlements. They are registered as a Backward Caste, (now referred to as other backward caste(OBC) caste). Their aspirations to be recognized as a tribe, rather than a caste, is complicated by their historical and contemporary social relations with other Nilgiri peoples, from whom they have asserted some differences and even a social precedence.
For example, the Badagas have traditionally hired musicians from other Nilgiri groups (such as the Kota and Irula) to play at their social functions, which is symbolic of submission and control in that region. However, they are also known to have paid tribute in grain to other groups, such as the Todas. In general, neither stereotype of caste or tribe can be readily applied. They are most likely Dravidian by descent and they are by religion Hindus of the Saiva sect. Research has indicated they migrated to the Nilgiris from the Mysore region, sometime around 1600 after the break-up of the kingdom of Vijayanagara. They are an agricultural people and far the most numerous and wealthy of the hill tribes. Many have relocated to towns and cities of the region, and earn income from urban-style employment. Their language is Badaga, a dialect of Kannada. This is the correct representation of Badaga people ,let us see why there is confusion.
Natives of the Nilgiris
Philology states that in the beginning languages existed without scripts and only later scripts were developed. Hence this seems to be a justification that the badagas were completely an indegenous people to due to the absence in their script, but an ancient indegenous group would have a higher population or would have been completely extinct which questions the validity of this theory.
The European Connection
Badaga ethnic group from Central/East Europe for survival had to accept the local language after migration to southern India and then to the Nilgiri Hills (the nilgiris then belonged to the Vijayanagara Empire), hence the dialect of Kannada. The badagas hence adopted the language for verbal communication and did not accept the Script as it was Foreign to them. The date of the second migration from present Karnataka is probably said to be around 1500 AD - 1600 AD. But this theory is put up to convert badagas to Christianity. The same theory has been put forward in neibhouring kodagu to successful effect in conversion. To somehow show they are closer to European to spread Christianity.
Genomic studies
Genomic Studies i.e. a Y-chromosome DNA marker test on the badagas have resulted in the badagas belonging to the broader R1a and specifically R1a1 Haplogroup. A good percentage of people in Central Europe,East Europe,Scandinavia and the people of Punjab also belong to this R1a1 Haplogroup. Hence this has been suggestive of the fact that the badagas are of an Eurasian origin.
The above statement of "origin" is further diluted based on the examination of R1a1 in South Indian tribals and Dravidian population groups Saha et al. (2005) questioned the concept of its Indo-Iranian origin. Sengupta et al. (2005) claim R1a's diverse presence including even Indian tribal and lower castes (the so-called untouchables) and populations not part of the caste system. From the diversity and distinctiveness of microsatellite Y-STR variation they conclude that there must have been an independent R1a1 population in India dating back to a much earlier expansion than the Indo-Aryan migration. The other Ethnic group from southern India which belongs to the R1a1 haplogroup are the Kodava whose customs and cultural aspects for centuries have been said to be related to the Badagas.
Proto Kannada-Tamil origin
Some tamil scholars say they split from Proto-Kannada-Tamil. But this is without any basis and is linguistic chuvanism of the Tamils. This theory is mainly put forward to keep the beautiful and Nilgiris and ooty within Tamil nadu. With this theory they also forced Badagas to use Incompatible Tamil Script. The widespread use of ha indicates that Badagas migrated to Nilgiris after the Pa-Ha shift happened in Kannada, that is post Hoysala.
Conclusion
The Badagas are very much a part of the Gowdas (Land Lords in Karnataka). Many also follow Lingayat tradition. It remained as a dialect because of the isolation in the hills. The language is also believed to be the older form of Kannada (Hale Kannada). Though the practices may be unique, the culture is very much the same as the Kannadigas. This uniqueness is by shedding out old practices and adopting new ones to keep the bond among members of the community and the other tribes like Todas, Kurumbas etc.
Any Lay kannada person can understand Badaga speaking, It has retained the old charms and also some of the cultural practices. All the words in Badaga has kannada origin, they have borrowed some from neibhouring Toda, Korta , Kuruba(all Kannada tribes) and Irula (Malayalam tribe). Recently they have been using more of Tamil, because of the use of tamil script and tamil administration.
@@odaadu-4463 Tamil Literature says Kadambas are Tamils. Tamilnadu is from Mangalore. There are around five million people in Tamilnadu whose Caste Name is Tuluva Vellala.. please annex Tuluvanad to Tamilnadu.
Bro..I do not know if u are aware or not..but I'm an ethnic kannadiga living in Salem,Tamil nadu and our forefathers have settled here before like 4 to 5 centuries ago.. but we are of shetty community..
@@murali5558 Yavo nivella, ellinda bartiro 😂
Hi bro I am even kannadiga from TN
Theni district here also so many kannada speaking people's lives. We are migreted from mysour during ancient century.
ಬಡಗ ಭಾಷೆಗೆ ಯಾವುದೇ ಲಿಪಿ ಇಲ್ಲದಿರುವುದರಿಂದ ಅದನ್ನು ಕನ್ನಡ ಭಾಷೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಬರೆಯಬಹುದಾಗಿದೆ. ಈಗಾಗಲೇ ಕನ್ನಡ ಲಿಪಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ಕೆಲವು ಪುಸ್ತಕಗಳು ಪ್ರಕಟವಾಗಿವೆ.
Kelavu pustaka suggest madi please
@@annyarun ಜೋನ್ಹ, ಮನ ಕನ್ನಡಿ, ಲೋಕ ರಕ್ಷಕನ ಕಥೆ,ಜಿಯಾನ್
@@AKKannadiga 🙏🙏🙏
Wiki
The Badagas(Kannada:ಬಡಗ ಜನರು) are an indigenous people inhabiting the Nilgiri Hills of Tamil Nadu, southern India.The term 'Badagu' in old Kannada means 'North',so 'Badaga' should mean 'Northener'.
They form the largest indigenous community in the Nilgiri region, with a population of approximately 150,000 encompassing some 370-odd villages and smaller settlements. They are registered as a Backward Caste, (now referred to as other backward caste(OBC) caste). Their aspirations to be recognized as a tribe, rather than a caste, is complicated by their historical and contemporary social relations with other Nilgiri peoples, from whom they have asserted some differences and even a social precedence.
For example, the Badagas have traditionally hired musicians from other Nilgiri groups (such as the Kota and Irula) to play at their social functions, which is symbolic of submission and control in that region. However, they are also known to have paid tribute in grain to other groups, such as the Todas. In general, neither stereotype of caste or tribe can be readily applied. They are most likely Dravidian by descent and they are by religion Hindus of the Saiva sect. Research has indicated they migrated to the Nilgiris from the Mysore region, sometime around 1600 after the break-up of the kingdom of Vijayanagara. They are an agricultural people and far the most numerous and wealthy of the hill tribes. Many have relocated to towns and cities of the region, and earn income from urban-style employment. Their language is Badaga, a dialect of Kannada. This is the correct representation of Badaga people ,let us see why there is confusion.
Natives of the Nilgiris
Philology states that in the beginning languages existed without scripts and only later scripts were developed. Hence this seems to be a justification that the badagas were completely an indegenous people to due to the absence in their script, but an ancient indegenous group would have a higher population or would have been completely extinct which questions the validity of this theory.
The European Connection
Badaga ethnic group from Central/East Europe for survival had to accept the local language after migration to southern India and then to the Nilgiri Hills (the nilgiris then belonged to the Vijayanagara Empire), hence the dialect of Kannada. The badagas hence adopted the language for verbal communication and did not accept the Script as it was Foreign to them. The date of the second migration from present Karnataka is probably said to be around 1500 AD - 1600 AD. But this theory is put up to convert badagas to Christianity. The same theory has been put forward in neibhouring kodagu to successful effect in conversion. To somehow show they are closer to European to spread Christianity.
Genomic studies
Genomic Studies i.e. a Y-chromosome DNA marker test on the badagas have resulted in the badagas belonging to the broader R1a and specifically R1a1 Haplogroup. A good percentage of people in Central Europe,East Europe,Scandinavia and the people of Punjab also belong to this R1a1 Haplogroup. Hence this has been suggestive of the fact that the badagas are of an Eurasian origin.
The above statement of "origin" is further diluted based on the examination of R1a1 in South Indian tribals and Dravidian population groups Saha et al. (2005) questioned the concept of its Indo-Iranian origin. Sengupta et al. (2005) claim R1a's diverse presence including even Indian tribal and lower castes (the so-called untouchables) and populations not part of the caste system. From the diversity and distinctiveness of microsatellite Y-STR variation they conclude that there must have been an independent R1a1 population in India dating back to a much earlier expansion than the Indo-Aryan migration. The other Ethnic group from southern India which belongs to the R1a1 haplogroup are the Kodava whose customs and cultural aspects for centuries have been said to be related to the Badagas.
Proto Kannada-Tamil origin
Some tamil scholars say they split from Proto-Kannada-Tamil. But this is without any basis and is linguistic chuvanism of the Tamils. This theory is mainly put forward to keep the beautiful and Nilgiris and ooty within Tamil nadu. With this theory they also forced Badagas to use Incompatible Tamil Script. The widespread use of ha indicates that Badagas migrated to Nilgiris after the Pa-Ha shift happened in Kannada, that is post Hoysala.
Conclusion
The Badagas are very much a part of the Gowdas (Land Lords in Karnataka). Many also follow Lingayat tradition. It remained as a dialect because of the isolation in the hills. The language is also believed to be the older form of Kannada (Hale Kannada). Though the practices may be unique, the culture is very much the same as the Kannadigas. This uniqueness is by shedding out old practices and adopting new ones to keep the bond among members of the community and the other tribes like Todas, Kurumbas etc.
Any Lay kannada person can understand Badaga speaking, It has retained the old charms and also some of the cultural practices. All the words in Badaga has kannada origin, they have borrowed some from neibhouring Toda, Korta , Kuruba(all Kannada tribes) and Irula (Malayalam tribe). Recently they have been using more of Tamil, because of the use of tamil script and tamil administration.
Gowad er. Aduva. Mathu. Baduga
Many places in Udagamandalam district have Kannada names. Eg: Doddabetta (highest peak in tamilnadu), Kelakunda (Kilkunda) , Melkunda, manjoor, Nadubetta (naduvattam), malapurahatti, Gundahatti, kalhatti, Hulikal, Masinigudi, Mavinhalla, bandishola, devarashola, hullatti, nanjanaad etc etc
Udagamandalam district belonged to old Mysore region until British put it under Madras presidency.
These names were created by the badaga tribes who once ran away from Karnataka and settled in Tamilnadu .
The original tribes of the Niligiris were the toda tribes from Tamil Culture
@@funguy6565 Malayalam names also..... Malayalam is majority in Gudalur taluk and pandalur taluk more than Kannnada.....
@@annammakurian1614 Okay..so what now
@@annammakurian1614 so what now..
Kannada hesru nodtiddange clicked this
Bro kannada vlogs maadi
Same here
Dv did same first English now in kannada
@@anonymous_3555 And now his kannada channel is rocking
Mysore Maharaj's palace in ooty is converted into VVIP guest house and Diwaan's palace is converted into KSTDC lodge by Govt of Karnataka.
Toda tribes living in botanical park are one of the kannada tribes.
Nilgri all tribes Kannada.r
@@kmmk1638 Malayalam is majority in Nilgiri district than Kannada
Todas are Tamil you fool.
ಮಳೆ ಶುರ್ವಾಯ್ತು ಮಾತ್ ಶುರ್ವಾಗ್ಲಿ ❤️❤️❤️
ಬ್ರೋ ಬಡಗ ಭಾಷೆ ಕನ್ನಡದ ಒಂದು ಉಪಭಾಷೆ 👍
The Vedasandur MLA Constituency in Dindigul District of Tamilnadu is a Kannadiga Constituency. Populated with Vokkaliga Gowdas. The MLA either from DMK or ADMK is always a Vokkaliga Gowda.
Ooty. M L A Ganesh. Gowda
Coonor. MLA Ramachandra Gowda( வனத்துறை அமைச்சர் )
True
He is not kannadiga. Gowda originated was Gounder community pure tamilian people. Tamil nadu Gowda mother tongue is Tamil. Don't compare your kannada Gowda community.
@@mahamahendran9306 😂 o shit GOWDAS CAMUNITY ALWAYS KANNADIGAS BECOUSE GANGAS , AND KALBRAS ARE VOKKALIGA GOWDAS THY ROLE 300CE TO 1000CE THAIR CAPITAL MYSURU TALAKADU THAIR LANGAUGE IS KANNADA KONGU NADU ALSO PART OF GANGAS (GOUNDER)
@@mahamahendran9306 u need psychiatrist.
I am Tuluva residing in TamilNadu and trust me, the way you guys tried to speak Tamil was the exact same how I had attempted initially. Mix Tulu ,Kannada & bits of Tamil🤣🤣🤣
We malayalee also there....
ಎಂಥ ಸಾವು ಮಾರೇ
True, Tamil nadu is also like karnataka. Full of diverse population with people of different languages and backgrounds. While speaking our mother tongue, we used to have influence from other languages as well.
Iam not badaga ,but there are many types of kannada speaking communities(vokkaliga ,naickar etc),with mix of Tamil,telugu...but we speak kannada like tamil pronunciation....eg:for yes u say 'Howdu'' we say 'aaudu'..we eliminate (ha) sounds...i think the kannada which is spoken now in city is no close to us..once when i went Bangalore one person said there is no such word i speak,but when i see old kannada movies ,old songs, dialects i wondered some of our words have used there ...
Hale Ganada and Baduga are almost same!!
It's because the tribes which went out of Karnataka were isolated from the other languages and so is the same till date but when it comes to Bangalore Kannada it's mixed with tamil,telugu and kannada,the same goes with north kannada which is influenced with marathi but this Baduga has held the root of Old Kannada!!
@@ayanquereshi you are right,we also have some old kannada words,only difference is badaga settled in hills,we stayed in plains
And there is also differences in pronunciation like
Eg: to eat,our community says "anna unnu",some other communities say"koolu unnu",in baduga not sure...but i could understand it...baduga speakers mostly speak fast than us😅we speak everything like how tamil is spoken....so badaga sounds more like karnataka dialects for we kannadigas....
my mother tongue also kannada naicker community rayakottai hosur
@@sathiyasankarvajjiravel4524 What percentage of people speak Kannada in Rayakottai?
Many rural population don't use the ha sound except for Tatsama words, atleast here in the old Mysore region.
While coming from Ooty to Mysore I had to get down in a village called Naduvattam, was surprised to see so many people speaking in Kannada. Its a village which has both Tamilians & Kannadigas, but even the Tamilians speak fluent Kannada.
Baduga is a distinct language belongs to Dravidian Languages. It is more closer to Kannada than Tamil. Comparing to Tamil Baduga language has adopted only very few Sanskrit words.
It closer to Malayalam also...
Yes
Sir like same on the way from ooty to gudaluru...u will find naduvattam (ನಡವಟ್ಟಂ )ಅಂತ ...but ನಾವು local ಕರೆಯೊದು Nadubetta ನಡುಬೆಟ್ಟ ಅಂತ...they r from ಮಂಡ್ಯ, ಮಳವಳ್ಳಿ,ಮೈಸೂರು,ಚಾ.ನಗರ....ಮಾತಾಡೋದುಕನ್ನಡನೆ ಆದರೆ ಇಲ್ಲಿ ಕರೆಯೂದು ಬಡುಗ ಅಂತ....
Sakat information bro..
@@GmBharath19 Naduvattam is Malayalam word not Kannada....
@@annammakurian1614 nadubetta annodanna tamilinavaru naduvattam anta maadikondiddaare ashte
@@prakashnikhil6557 Malayalam population is more than Kannada population in Nilgiri district....
@@annammakurian1614 irabahudu valase bandiruttaare
ಬಡಗ ಭಾಷೆ ಕನ್ನಡದ ಒಂದು ಉಪಭಾಷೆ & ಬಡಗ ಅಂದ್ರೆ ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ಉತ್ತರ ಅಂತ ಅರ್ಥ
Badagana badaga
@@captain_lewi9505 ಬಡಗಣ ಅಂದ್ರೆ north ಮತ್ತೆ ತೆಂಕಣ ಅಂದ್ರೆ South
@@captain_lewi9505
ಬಡಗಣ ಉತ್ತರ
ತೆಂಕಣ ದಕ್ಷಿಣ
ಮೂಡಣ ಪೂರ್ವ
ಪಡುವಣ ಪಶ್ಚಿಮ
ಕೊಂಕಣ
ವಂಕಣ
ಕೊಂಗಣ
ಪಲ್ಲಣ ಬಗ್ಗಣ ಅಗ್ಗಣ ಬೆಂಕಣ ಉರ್ಗಣ ಉಗ್ಗಣ
ಒಂದೊಂದು ಕನ್ನಡ ಪದಕ್ಕು ಕನ್ನಡದ್ದೆ ಅರಿಮೆಯ ತಿಳುಮುಗೆ ಇದೆ.
ಮೂಡುವ,ಹುಟ್ಟುವ,ಸಾರುವ ದಿಕ್ಕು,ಏರಮಗೆ,ಹಾರ್ಮರ್ಳೆ,ಪೊದ್ದಳೆ,ಹೊತ್ತಣ,ಬೆಳಂಗಿರ್ಳೆ,ಸುಡಾರ್ಳು,ಕಾಲಿಮಾರ್ಳೆ,ಕಾಣಂಗಳ -ಮೂಡಣದಿಕ್ಕು
ಪಡುವಣ,ಬೀಳುವ,ಮಲಗುವ,ಪಡುವ,ಮುಳಂಗ್ಲ,ಮರೆಜ್ಸೇಯಿರ,ಕಾಣದ್ಪಗಲು,ಮರುದಿಂಗಳಾಸಣೆ,ಜಾರಳೆ,ಮರ್ಜಾರ್ಣೆ,ಪನಂಗಣ,ಮಲ್ಗಿಳೆ,ಹೊಜ್ಜಾರ್ಮರೆ,ಬಿಜ್ಜಣೆ,ಬಿದ್ರಳ್ಯಣೆ -ಪಡುವಣ ದಿಕ್ಕು
ಬಡಗಣ,ಬೆಟ್ಟಕಣ,ಸೆಗಣ,ಉಡಗಣ,ಬೆವಗಣ,ಬಿಸಣ,ಅಂಟಳ,ಕಾದಳ,ಕಮರಳ,ಅಬೆಣ,ಹೊಡಣ,ಶಮಣ,ಕಾಲೆಣ,ಕುದಣ -ಬಡಗಣ ದಿಕ್ಕು.
ತೆಂಕಣ,ತೇನಳೆ,ಜಿನಣ,ತಂಬಣ,ಚಳಣ,ಶಳೆಳ,ಕೊರವಣ,ಮಜ್ಜಣ,ಮಂಚ್ಸಳ,ಹಿಮಣ,ಗಾಳ್ವಣ,ಬೀಸಳ,ವಿಸರಳೆ,ವೀಶರ್ಳ,ತನ್ನಂಗಳ,ತಮ್ಗಣ,ತಂಪೀಯಿಕ,ತಣ್ಣರಳ,ದಂಪುದೀಣ,ಡನ್ನಂಕಳ,ಸಲ್ಲಂಗಿಳೆ,ಟಂಬೀಸಳು,ಟಮಾಸಳ,ತೆನಗನ್ನಳ,ತೇಂಗಳೆ,ಜೇನರ್ಳೆ,ತಣ್ಣೊಳಲು,ತಂಬಿರ್ಳೆ,ತಾಂಡಳ್ಯ-ತೆಂಕಣದಿಕ್ಕು
ಕನ್ನಡದ ಪದಗಳನ್ನ ಬಳಸೋಣ ಸರ್
@@ಜಾಣಪದ್ಯಗಳು ತುಂಬಾ ಚೆನ್ನಾಗಿ ಬಿಡಿಸಿದ್ದಿರಿ, ಯಾರೇ ಆದರೂ ಕನ್ನಡ ಒರೆಗಳನ್ ಬಳಸಿದೊಡೆ ಕಿಳಿರಿಮೆ ಅಲ್ಲ , ಅದೆ ತರ ಸಕ್ಕವನ್ನ ಬಳಸಿದರೆ ಗರಿಮೆಯಲ್ಲ , ನಮ್ಮ ಕನ್ನಡದ ಎಸ್ಟು ಒರೆಗಳು ಕಾಣೆ ಆಗಿವೆ ಅವನ್ನ ಬಳಕೆಗೆ ತರ ಬೇಕೂ.
ವಂದನೆ,ಅಭಿನಂದನೆಗಳು = ನಲವರಿಕೆಗಳು (ಕ)
ನಮಸ್ಕಾರ=ತುಳಿಲ್(ತುಳಿಲು)
ಧನ್ಯವಾದಗಳು=ನನ್ನೀ.
@@eraya9477
ನನ್ನೀ.ಸರ್
Sir kinnakore to thaisole ಮದ್ಯ ಒಂದು ಟೀ ಎಸ್ಟೇಟ್ ಇದೆ ಅಲ್ಲಿನು ಫುಲ್ ಕನ್ನಡದವರೇ ಇರೋದು ನಾನು ನೇ ಅಲ್ಲಿ ಹುಟ್ಟಿ ಬೆಳೆದಿರುವುದು ಈಗ ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಲ್ಲಿ ಇರೋದು.... ಎರಡು ಕಾಡೆಮ್ಮೆ ಸೂಪರ್
When I explored Tamilnadu during my 6yrs of work stay....Madhurai,Gudiatham Coimbatore( konganadu), Rasipuram, Erode( kumarapalyam), ooty(Badagas n other kannadiga communities)....they all have their own dialects yet speak kannada....they behaviour too very soft spoken n disciplined never mingle up with others much same like us kannadigas here.....highly qualified and well do to though...
Lovely vlog...it was astonishing to see your friend wear his gloves and immediately tries to remove the moment he listens the boys speaking kannada in surprise....👌👌😃😃😃
BADUGA IS A TRIBE FROM NILGIRI HILLS OOTY TAMILNADU.
THEY ARE VERY GOOD AT HEART.
DECENT AND EDUCATED PEOPLE.
They are basically from KARNATAKA, in TIPPU SULTAN'S RULE, these people were TORCHERED by TIPPU SULTAN SOLDIERS, So they slowly left MYSORE AND GUDELPET Karnataka villages and reached the NILGIRIS FOR PEACEFUL LIFE.
Good information and yes they are as you mentioned....very soft spoken n well mannered people....
@@savithaanjje2328 thank you
Not actually during Tippu's rule. We have a long history. Within the Badugu population there are many clans. The history of migration from plains to hills during Tippu's rule belongs only to a particular segment of the population. It cannot be the history of the entire Badugu speaking population. 😊
@@nijanthhg2165 The original tribes of the Niligiris were the Todas which belong to the Tamil Culture. People from Karnataka ran away from mysore and came here to take Todas land settlements.. Badagas are descendents from Kanadigas...
@@funguy6565 Any baduga tribe in Wayanad district???
ಜೈ ಕನ್ನಡ..
ಜೈ ಬಾಡುಗ
ಜೈ ತುಳುನಾಡು..
Jai Kannada
Jai badagu...
Jai Nilgiri.. Good video
Bro Tamil
Tell jai Tamil also
@@Gamingvjs
Yes brother
Jai thamil Nadu
Jai Karnataka
Jai India
@@puttaswamymysuruTamil is the mother of kanada bro
Baduga are 50 percent tamil and only their language is 50 percent mixed with kannada and they use tamil letters they follow tamil culture they celebrate tamil festivals so you don't want to say jai baduga they are our peoples belongs to tamilnadu
sai pallavi's mother tongue is baduga.. i think baduga is derived from kannada.. anyways felt really happy after them knowing kannada :')
@@mylifemyrules308
no
its derived only from Kannada
1% tamil words added to badaga because of new generation of badaga growing in Tamilnadu
@@mylifemyrules308
🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
baduga avre neevu mysore indha tamilnadu hills ge migration agiddhu history nodi
badagu is derived from Kannada
but tamil got mixed because of imposition
badugu pure related to Kannada
@@abhishek5038 👍 but we belong to TN
@@sathya0450
😂so what
i dint said you people belongs to karnataka
but your old generation roots are from karnataka dont forget that 👍
Kannada naadinu mahimegaadalu bhandhadi naavukalu kudakinu sukhithu kanni sughethu keli vinodhigalu
Nilgiris was a part of earstwhile Mysore Kingdom. Most of the villages, and towns and estates are owned by Gowdas. In fact, the main Street of Ooty downtown is named after KempeGowda. I did apk to one of the shop owner there, and they were Kannadigas too.
Salem, Coimbatore, Pollachhi,Nilgiris, parts of Theni and Madurai also has a significant Kannada population.
Wiki
The Badagas(Kannada:ಬಡಗ ಜನರು) are an indigenous people inhabiting the Nilgiri Hills of Tamil Nadu, southern India.The term 'Badagu' in old Kannada means 'North',so 'Badaga' should mean 'Northener'.
They form the largest indigenous community in the Nilgiri region, with a population of approximately 150,000 encompassing some 370-odd villages and smaller settlements. They are registered as a Backward Caste, (now referred to as other backward caste(OBC) caste). Their aspirations to be recognized as a tribe, rather than a caste, is complicated by their historical and contemporary social relations with other Nilgiri peoples, from whom they have asserted some differences and even a social precedence.
For example, the Badagas have traditionally hired musicians from other Nilgiri groups (such as the Kota and Irula) to play at their social functions, which is symbolic of submission and control in that region. However, they are also known to have paid tribute in grain to other groups, such as the Todas. In general, neither stereotype of caste or tribe can be readily applied. They are most likely Dravidian by descent and they are by religion Hindus of the Saiva sect. Research has indicated they migrated to the Nilgiris from the Mysore region, sometime around 1600 after the break-up of the kingdom of Vijayanagara. They are an agricultural people and far the most numerous and wealthy of the hill tribes. Many have relocated to towns and cities of the region, and earn income from urban-style employment. Their language is Badaga, a dialect of Kannada. This is the correct representation of Badaga people ,let us see why there is confusion.
Natives of the Nilgiris
Philology states that in the beginning languages existed without scripts and only later scripts were developed. Hence this seems to be a justification that the badagas were completely an indegenous people to due to the absence in their script, but an ancient indegenous group would have a higher population or would have been completely extinct which questions the validity of this theory.
The European Connection
Badaga ethnic group from Central/East Europe for survival had to accept the local language after migration to southern India and then to the Nilgiri Hills (the nilgiris then belonged to the Vijayanagara Empire), hence the dialect of Kannada. The badagas hence adopted the language for verbal communication and did not accept the Script as it was Foreign to them. The date of the second migration from present Karnataka is probably said to be around 1500 AD - 1600 AD. But this theory is put up to convert badagas to Christianity. The same theory has been put forward in neibhouring kodagu to successful effect in conversion. To somehow show they are closer to European to spread Christianity.
Genomic studies
Genomic Studies i.e. a Y-chromosome DNA marker test on the badagas have resulted in the badagas belonging to the broader R1a and specifically R1a1 Haplogroup. A good percentage of people in Central Europe,East Europe,Scandinavia and the people of Punjab also belong to this R1a1 Haplogroup. Hence this has been suggestive of the fact that the badagas are of an Eurasian origin.
The above statement of "origin" is further diluted based on the examination of R1a1 in South Indian tribals and Dravidian population groups Saha et al. (2005) questioned the concept of its Indo-Iranian origin. Sengupta et al. (2005) claim R1a's diverse presence including even Indian tribal and lower castes (the so-called untouchables) and populations not part of the caste system. From the diversity and distinctiveness of microsatellite Y-STR variation they conclude that there must have been an independent R1a1 population in India dating back to a much earlier expansion than the Indo-Aryan migration. The other Ethnic group from southern India which belongs to the R1a1 haplogroup are the Kodava whose customs and cultural aspects for centuries have been said to be related to the Badagas.
Proto Kannada-Tamil origin
Some tamil scholars say they split from Proto-Kannada-Tamil. But this is without any basis and is linguistic chuvanism of the Tamils. This theory is mainly put forward to keep the beautiful and Nilgiris and ooty within Tamil nadu. With this theory they also forced Badagas to use Incompatible Tamil Script. The widespread use of ha indicates that Badagas migrated to Nilgiris after the Pa-Ha shift happened in Kannada, that is post Hoysala.
Conclusion
The Badagas are very much a part of the Gowdas (Land Lords in Karnataka). Many also follow Lingayat tradition. It remained as a dialect because of the isolation in the hills. The language is also believed to be the older form of Kannada (Hale Kannada). Though the practices may be unique, the culture is very much the same as the Kannadigas. This uniqueness is by shedding out old practices and adopting new ones to keep the bond among members of the community and the other tribes like Todas, Kurumbas etc.
Any Lay kannada person can understand Badaga speaking, It has retained the old charms and also some of the cultural practices. All the words in Badaga has kannada origin, they have borrowed some from neibhouring Toda, Korta , Kuruba(all Kannada tribes) and Irula (Malayalam tribe). Recently they have been using more of Tamil, because of the use of tamil script and tamil administration.
ಧರ್ಮಪುರಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ಹಳೆ ಧರ್ಮಪುರಿ ಅಂತ ಇದೆ ಧರ್ಮಪುರಿ ಭಾಗದಲ್ಲೂ ಹೆಚ್ಚು ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರೇ ಇರುವುದು ಮತ್ತೆ ಅಲ್ಲಿನ ಹಳ್ಳಿಗಳ ಹೆಸರುಗಳು ಕೂಡ ಅತಿ ಹೆಚ್ಚು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿಯೇ ಇವೆ
@king of king @king of king then why you kongas coming to Bangalore, coming to Bangalore and working in road sweeping, drainage works , construction workrs that's it, don't think that poor people are landlords here 😂😂, poor people kongas they will do any job for hundreds 😂😂, and I think you're a fool, Bangalore, karnataka is the dynamic city in the whole world, your Tamil lowda nadu still suffering without water 😂, and most of the cities are slums 💯💯💯
@@chandru4390 don't call them slum! Even I'm kannadiga from Chennai.. But they are not like we thought they are even more friendly to us! Tamil Nadu even more developed infrastructure and socially... It was the most progressive state in India in all criteria.. Don't be racist by call them konga!.. People like you are shame to kannadigas.. Mind your language!
@@chandru4390 kundiga naye how many nobel prize winners in your state how many world chess champion winners in your state how many oscar winner in your state how many bharatratna winners in your state
Yes Badugas are people from mysore- chamarajnagar who migrated to Nilgiris (Ooty) 3-5 centuries back, Badaga language is nothing but kannada used in medieval ages
Hundreds of years ago Kannada speaking communities from Mysore have moved/ran to mountain ranges of Ooti for variety of reasons and and decided to stay there as indigenous people of that land. Later though the Kannada got refined in Karnataka the same old Kannada retained its genuinity as Badaga in Nilgiri Districts. There is Badaga Nadu Sangha in Seshadripuram, Bangalore.
Ooty was part of Kannada speaking areas, even names in Ooty are in Kannada as Ooty is the actual border , Tamil settlements became more during British times , as tea plantation became more . Badaga is the regional dialect of Kannada in Ooty , Ooty is the place where Kannada and Tamil languages meet.
@@Adyjetu really yes. When I visited ooty recently, I didn't face language problem there. Shop owners and ppl are well worsed with kannada and tamil.
Badaga nadu sangha is not of the badagas that live in Ooty. There is a sub sect of smartha srahmins called badaga nadu brahmins. The badaga nadu sangha of sheshadripuram is their organisation. I belong to that subsect as well.
We also Kannada but in Salem our occupation is weaving
@@yuvaprasanth1552 Malayalee people are also settled in Nilgiri district than Kannada people....
ಬಡಗ ಭಾಷೆ ಕನ್ನಡವನ್ನು ತುಂಬಾ ಹೋಲುತ್ತದೆ. ಊಟಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ಹೆಚ್ಚು ಕಡಿಮೆ 8 ದ್ರಾವಿಡ ಭಾಷೆಗಳಿವೆ. ಬಡಗ, ತೋಡ, ಇರುಳ, ಕೋಟ, ಕುರುಂಬ ಮುಂತಾದ ಬುಡಕಟ್ಟು ಜನಾಂಗಗಳು ಅವರದ್ದೇ ಆದ ಭಾಷೆಯನ್ನು ಮಾತನಾಡುತ್ತಾರೆ. ಅವರ ಸಂಸೃತಿ ತುಂಬಾ ವಿಶಿಷ್ಟ ಮತ್ತು ಸುಂದರವಾಗಿದೆ. ಬ್ರಿಟೀಷರ ಆಳ್ವಿಕೆಯ ಮೊದಲು ಊಟಿ ನಮ್ಮ ಮೈಸೂರು ಸಂಸ್ಥಾನದ ಭಾಗವಾಗಿತ್ತು. ಊಟಿಯಲ್ಲಿರುವ ಅತೀ ಎತ್ತರದ ಪ್ರದೇಶ "ದೊಡ್ಡ ಬೆಟ್ಟ" ಬಡಗ ಹೆಸರಾಗಿದೆ.
Correct. ನಾನು ಯಾವಾಗ್ಲೂ ಯೋಚಿಸ್ತಿದ್ದೆ ದೊಡ್ಡಬೆಟ್ಟ ಹೆಸ್ರು ಹೇಗೆ ಇಟ್ರು ಇಲ್ಲಿ ಅಂತ. ಧನ್ಯವಾದ ಹೇಮಂತ್
@@annyarun ಧನ್ಯವಾದ ಧನಿ. Next time ತೋಡ worship places ಬೊಕ ಅಕ್ಲೆನ culture explore ಮಲ್ಪುಲೆ. ತುಂಬಾ ಇಂಟರೆಸ್ಟಿಂಗ್ ಉಂಡು.
@@hemanthbt sure hemanth 🙌
@kiran minteresting. Thank you for the info
ಕಿನ್ನಕುರೈ ಮುಟ್ಟಿ ಬಂದಿರಿ. ಬಡುಗ ಕನ್ನಡ ಭಾಷೆಯ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಮಾಹಿತಿ ಸಿಕ್ಕರೆ ಚೆನ್ನಾಗಿತ್ತು. ವಂದನೆಗಳು.
You have touched kinnakurai and returned. Had you given information about Baduga language, would have been wonderful.
Dhanyavadagalu. Hogi bandmele thumba jana comment madi badaga community bagge thilisiddare.. comments alli badaga community avre mathadiddare. Dayavittu ondu sala nodi :)
Love from tamilnadu ❤️❤️👍🏻
ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರೇ ನಿಜವಾದ ""ವಿಶ್ವ ಮಾನವರು"""" ಜೈ ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ-- ಜೈ ಕನ್ನಡಾಂಬೆ--- ಜೈ ವೀರ ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ"""""
Valaga Tamil.
@@mahamahendran9306 konga
👌Namma KANNADA 👌
Kushi Aythu 😊
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From: KOLAR, KARNATAKA
Bro iam from TN
Is everything ok in kolar
Liked seeing your surprised face when the language sounded like kannada ..that was a nice shot you retained... it was tulu, kanada and baduga all in the same frame .. baduga people either are proud to accept its closely related to kannada or being in tamilnadu they are not so proud that its related kannada. :)...no one was coming forward to explain more about the language:) ...nice vlog
Yeah that got captured because i forgot the camera was on 😁 but I'm glad it was on.
It was pleasant to hear both kannada & tulu together. I felt I am at home through out the video.
I feel pleasant to hear Tamil in almost in all places in Karnataka.. I feel Karnataka as my second Tamilnadu home
ಆದಷ್ಟು ಕನ್ನದ ಭಾಷೆ ಲಿ ವೀಡಿಯೋಸ್ ಮಾಡಿ
Yes.. Vokkaliga Gowda community forms the major chunk of population in Ooty district after Tamils and Badagaru. Badaga tribe too has its origin in Karnataka and speak a Kannada dialect. Many of my relatives are settled in Ooty as their ancestors migrated there during drought in old Mysore region of Karnataka in 1800s.
Badaga is not a tribal community, it’s propaganda by certain sections to get ST status, the surname of Badaga Gowdas 80% of badagas is gowder, we are ethnically related to vokkaliga gowdas, but due to loss of contact for 700 yrs, Badaga did not refine like kannada….
Brother is baduga is dielect of kannada like kodava language...
Badaga or Badagana- means "North" in old kannada
Kana in kannada refers to directions and provinces in that area.
Moodana - east
Paduvana- west
Tenkana - south
Badagana- north
Kongana- south east
Vengana -north east
Konkana- north west
Cherana - south west
These directions can be found in old kannada compositions
In Tulu we use this word Mooday, Paday, Badagaday words.... If you see there two towns in Tulu Nadu/coastal Karnataka where in west there is a town Padubidri and in East there is a place called moodabidri where first part literally means west and east.
Cherana refers to Chera nadu A todays kerala
@@lifotechnologies814 Malayalam is majority in Nilgiri district than Kannada
@@annammakurian1614 what's ur problem kutti? U r commenting same thing everywhere
Badauga tradition is similar to Kodagu
Yeah mine is other way round, my ancestors are from Chennai but apparently they settled in Karnataka and we were called Bangalore Iyengars!! Our Tamil has become KAMIL 😂Kannada mix Tamil
Iyengars have no definite language they change language time to time
Accidentally landed into this channel and fell in love instantly..
Thank you ❤️
Nice video as always . "enchinaye" in the beginning gets me everytime 😀
What's the meaning of enchinaye
@@sumukhhegde1706 enchineya means "ynta vaa "" in Kannada
Eddeya.
Border areas of all states in our country speak mixed language or language on other side of border.It is natural.
Him: Why are you Kannada?
The Boy: Who says I'm Kannada?
Him: You are Kannada.
😂😂 that's the best adaptation to this scenario
Surprised.. Nice to hear kannada
Baduga album songs noode
Nice to see the beauty of Nilgiri district.... Anyway Malayalam is more significant in Nilgiri district than Kannada after Tamil....
Sir we had school trip to Ooty..most of them speak and write Kannada very well..as it was one time belonging to karnataka.. during rajeev gandhi period tamil nadu gave mahadeshwara betta to karnataka..as told by the tourist..over there..
Once upon time bengaluru was a part of madras presidency, which was given after state partition......!
@@Rajkumar-ul7ko Next joke plz.. 😅
Dei punda, it was always under mysore state including hosur.
@@potatochips1520 seri da thevidiya punda.... Magane.. ooty was under madras presidency.... Poda chips ... Punda
@@potatochips1520 first give back bellary, dakshina kannada, and udupi district to tamilnadu....
There are lot of people speaking and writing good Tamil in Bangalore and the whole of Karnataka. Once Most of Karnataka was part of Tamil Nadu. We need bangalore and Mysore back to integrate to Tamilnadu.
The kids are so cute n like Gods....so innocent, admiring the bikes....and welcoming travelers ....... Its a bliss to enjoying your drive cuddled by mother nature!!!
ಕನ್ನಡ ಏನೆ ಕುಣಿದಾಡುವುದೆನ್ನೆದೆ....
ಜೈ ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ ಮಾತೇ
So nice of you all.
I feel of taking similar adventure at 57. 😁..
Regards
Thanks for sharing 🙏
Dinesh Mysore
Hi bro I'm nandhini.nanum kannada than vokkaliga gowda my origin is Mettupalayam under Nilgiri mountain
All gowdas. Baduga
Kinnakorai is a beautiful place. Been there during 2018. Nice video as usual... 👍
Dammm 🙌❤️.. good to know about a new language
Wiki
The Badagas(Kannada:ಬಡಗ ಜನರು) are an indigenous people inhabiting the Nilgiri Hills of Tamil Nadu, southern India.The term 'Badagu' in old Kannada means 'North',so 'Badaga' should mean 'Northener'.
They form the largest indigenous community in the Nilgiri region, with a population of approximately 150,000 encompassing some 370-odd villages and smaller settlements. They are registered as a Backward Caste, (now referred to as other backward caste(OBC) caste). Their aspirations to be recognized as a tribe, rather than a caste, is complicated by their historical and contemporary social relations with other Nilgiri peoples, from whom they have asserted some differences and even a social precedence.
For example, the Badagas have traditionally hired musicians from other Nilgiri groups (such as the Kota and Irula) to play at their social functions, which is symbolic of submission and control in that region. However, they are also known to have paid tribute in grain to other groups, such as the Todas. In general, neither stereotype of caste or tribe can be readily applied. They are most likely Dravidian by descent and they are by religion Hindus of the Saiva sect. Research has indicated they migrated to the Nilgiris from the Mysore region, sometime around 1600 after the break-up of the kingdom of Vijayanagara. They are an agricultural people and far the most numerous and wealthy of the hill tribes. Many have relocated to towns and cities of the region, and earn income from urban-style employment. Their language is Badaga, a dialect of Kannada. This is the correct representation of Badaga people ,let us see why there is confusion.
Natives of the Nilgiris
Philology states that in the beginning languages existed without scripts and only later scripts were developed. Hence this seems to be a justification that the badagas were completely an indegenous people to due to the absence in their script, but an ancient indegenous group would have a higher population or would have been completely extinct which questions the validity of this theory.
The European Connection
Badaga ethnic group from Central/East Europe for survival had to accept the local language after migration to southern India and then to the Nilgiri Hills (the nilgiris then belonged to the Vijayanagara Empire), hence the dialect of Kannada. The badagas hence adopted the language for verbal communication and did not accept the Script as it was Foreign to them. The date of the second migration from present Karnataka is probably said to be around 1500 AD - 1600 AD. But this theory is put up to convert badagas to Christianity. The same theory has been put forward in neibhouring kodagu to successful effect in conversion. To somehow show they are closer to European to spread Christianity.
Genomic studies
Genomic Studies i.e. a Y-chromosome DNA marker test on the badagas have resulted in the badagas belonging to the broader R1a and specifically R1a1 Haplogroup. A good percentage of people in Central Europe,East Europe,Scandinavia and the people of Punjab also belong to this R1a1 Haplogroup. Hence this has been suggestive of the fact that the badagas are of an Eurasian origin.
The above statement of "origin" is further diluted based on the examination of R1a1 in South Indian tribals and Dravidian population groups Saha et al. (2005) questioned the concept of its Indo-Iranian origin. Sengupta et al. (2005) claim R1a's diverse presence including even Indian tribal and lower castes (the so-called untouchables) and populations not part of the caste system. From the diversity and distinctiveness of microsatellite Y-STR variation they conclude that there must have been an independent R1a1 population in India dating back to a much earlier expansion than the Indo-Aryan migration. The other Ethnic group from southern India which belongs to the R1a1 haplogroup are the Kodava whose customs and cultural aspects for centuries have been said to be related to the Badagas.
Proto Kannada-Tamil origin
Some tamil scholars say they split from Proto-Kannada-Tamil. But this is without any basis and is linguistic chuvanism of the Tamils. This theory is mainly put forward to keep the beautiful and Nilgiris and ooty within Tamil nadu. With this theory they also forced Badagas to use Incompatible Tamil Script. The widespread use of ha indicates that Badagas migrated to Nilgiris after the Pa-Ha shift happened in Kannada, that is post Hoysala.
Conclusion
The Badagas are very much a part of the Gowdas (Land Lords in Karnataka). Many also follow Lingayat tradition. It remained as a dialect because of the isolation in the hills. The language is also believed to be the older form of Kannada (Hale Kannada). Though the practices may be unique, the culture is very much the same as the Kannadigas. This uniqueness is by shedding out old practices and adopting new ones to keep the bond among members of the community and the other tribes like Todas, Kurumbas etc.
Any Lay kannada person can understand Badaga speaking, It has retained the old charms and also some of the cultural practices. All the words in Badaga has kannada origin, they have borrowed some from neibhouring Toda, Korta , Kuruba(all Kannada tribes) and Irula (Malayalam tribe). Recently they have been using more of Tamil, because of the use of tamil script and tamil administration.
Proud be a Baduga…..
Do you know Kannada
Kannada speaking gowda from cumbum, Theni❤❤❤❤❤❤
At 10.22 the kids talked perfect kannada
I'm a Kannadiga but Nilgiris is my eternal love.. I don't know why, but despite having visited there at least a 100 times, I still don't get bored going there
Good bro..you r talking Kannada..gr8 to hear badagu..Nice cultural mix..
Keep doing bro..love from Mangalore ❤️
Someone on the bike is speaking tulu language of DK dist, karnataka. Sida pole.
There are more villages in interior Tamil Nadu speaking telugu, Kannada and malayalam peoples. But nearer to me more telugu speaking peoples❤. Love from Tamil Nadu bro
People talk in Kannada in Ooty town itself
They speak Hindi too as Ooty is a tourist place
@@pallurams people speak kannada as a mothertongue there not learnt like hindi.
@@pallurams ooty was given to tamil Nadu by karnataka!!
@@neel2608 like how Bangalore was given to Karnataka?
@@pallurams bangalore was founded by NADAPRABHU KEMPEGOWDA !!! Karnataka from beginning dude!! Why so much jealousy?
Watching only for KANNADA 🙏
Sakkath itthu .. sooo vast and diverse our country ❤️ 🌷 baduga language ❤️❤️ .. the more we take the inner route the more we might come across.. ut was lovely ❤️
ಮಳೆ ಶುರ್ವಾಯ್ತು ಮಾತ್ ಶುರ್ವಾಗ್ಲಿ 🔥
In dharmapuri krishnagiri districts you can find lot of villages with kannadigas
Bro badaga is an old kannada there is no tamil in baduga its purely an old kannada............and i Nilgiris majority are baduga only.....!!!
Bro even im an baduga and im from Nilgiris and u missed some mesmerizing places.....i subscribed ur channel next time if you visit Nilgiris leave an announcement im there to guide you exploring nilgiris....👍👍👍👍
@@viki-oy5ij nice to see you brother I'm kannadiga from Karnataka....Hegiddiri kannada poorthi artha agutta?
Bro old kannada same as tamil also u can check
@@chandraprasad1549 ஆம். படகா மொழியில். வார்த்தைக்கு. வார்த்தை. தமிழ் உள்ளது
Tamil is equally mixed up in baduga language as like old kannada. Their food habits are similar to gowdas(karnataka) and gounder(kongu region of TN)
Down south there are 2 places in TN where you can find good number of kannadigas -Chinnalapatti (near Kodaikanal) and Aruppukottai (Devangas)
I am From Tamil Nadu, I've seen many tamilians are living in Shimoga district and their mother tongue is tamil. But I don't know, how they came to west Karnataka. why don't you relay a video about their life and culture.
They have migrated from Tamil Nadu to work in the industries, during Mysore Maharaj's times
Baduga language is mix of Tamil+Kannada=Baduga , Ooty Baduga population dominants,they don't hv any written script
8:54 this is the best part of the entire video lol their reaction is priceless ..😂
Ha ha.. yeah..and it got captured because i forgot it was recording
Bro next inda swalpa dyasti kannada videos madi bro nange kadme views nodak agta illa etara videos need more views like north vlogers 😖
Nija bro
It’s old Kannada which is not in practice now
ಊಟಿ ಅಲ್ಲಿ ಎಲ್ಲರೂ ಕನ್ನಡ ಮಾತಾಡುತ್ತಾರೆ ಯಾಕಂದ್ರೆ ಊಟಿ ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ ಭಾಗವಾಗಿತ್ತು ಆದ್ರೆ ಬ್ರಿಟಿಷರು ಬಂದು ಊಟಿನ ಮದ್ರಾಸ್ ಪ್ರಾಂತ್ಯಕ್ಕೆ ಸೇರಿಸಿಕೊಂಡ್ರು
They are settlers from CH Nagar during Malik Kafurs age and Vijayanagara. Theyre not STs
They are called Badaga ...in Kannada Badaga means north. So they are northerners to native Ooty tribes like Kurumba, Toda and Kotas.
Wow TULU language ❤️❤️❤️
ಮಾತೃಭಾಷೆ ಬಿಟ್ಟುವರು ಮೂರು ಬಿಟ್ಟುವರು
3:25 ತುಳು ಭಾಷೆ
Duke 200 sound and these type of mountains roads are so beautiful can't describe in words... ❤️
Lovely video bro! Subscribed ❤️
i've been to Outside Space, Kenthorai too.. and also heard the Bison story while i was ther 😆😁
oh super.. nice stay.. lovely dogs.
ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ಬ್ಲಾಗ್ ಮಾಡಿ.... Do vlog in Kannada
This is something gr8 else we find more regional influence in bordering areas …
Even am From Tamilnadu.. But my mother tongue is kannada... In karanataka the most populated 3 Largest caste is namdhe aavla.....North Karanataka thali all are ours only........ Jai sangoli rayanna etc..
,....... I can proudly say that. Vijayanagar dynasty was build ours only.....
Badugas is just a caste the lived in ooty some people in Coimbatore etc...... That's all they didn't create a very big history in India.......
But by saying kuruba Gowda each everyone known in through out India....
Y because they have studied in books, novels, 📰, magaziness etc.......
அதோடு படகர்கள் ஈரோடு மாவட்டம் திம்பம் மலைபகுதியிலும் இந்த பகுதியே ஒட்டிய கர்நாடக பகுதியில் உள்ள புளுஞ்சூருவிலும் உள்ளனர்
Seri da unnnoda sathii the aanda paramabara na,namma elllathayooo aandathu velllakara,aproo muslims avanga renduuu perooo senthuuu tha aaanda paramabara peruma pesra unnna mathriii aalungala oda uttanunga😂😂😂😂
Most people in the nilgiris can communicate in kannada badaga malayalam...it's a tri lingual district..and the language u speak is Tulu guess...can understand ur lang too...all the best..
Thank you. Yes that is Tulu
Love your tamil bro ❤️😁 nice video as always ❤️
It's not kannada speaking village brother. It's a baduga village and each and everyone speak only baduga.....
yes. Thats why I used the Kannada in quotes :) Since it sounds like Kannada. I respect the baduga having its own identity.
Legendary king of Indian Mottovlogging one and only Arun.
I like how the exhaust pops when u let go of the throttle. Duke 200❤️
ನಿಕುಲ್ ತುಳು ಪತೆರುನ ಮಸ್ತ್ ಲಯಕ್ ಅಪುಂಡ್..
ಬಡಗ ಜನಾ ಹಳೇ ಮೈಸೂರು ಪ್ರಾಂತ್ಯ 1947 ಇಸವಿಯಲ್ಲಿ 4 ರಾಜ್ಯ ವಿಭಜನೆ ನಂತರ ಊಟಿ ಕೂನೂರು ತಮಿಳು ನಾಡು ಸೇರಿತು ಆದರೆ ಆ ನಂಟು ನಮ್ಮಲಿ ಈಗಲೂ ಉಳಿದಿದೆ ಧನ್ಯವಾದಗಳು 🥰🙏🙏🙏
Nilgiri district was part of madras from 18th century itself , there it was part of coimbatore district, after that separate nilgiri district was carved out by taking gudalur taluk from kerala and taking ooty,conooor taluks from coimbatore, and then kotagiri taluk separated from coonoor and hence currently nilgiris has 6 taluks ooty,kotagiri,coonoor,gudalur,pandalur etc, however before tippu sulthan it was be ruled by kannadiga kings for many years even before 11th century again during sangam period it was ruled by chera kings, hence this dist has mixed cultures which is little bit diffrent culture than rest of tamilnadu, but many people can communicate or understand in tamil,kannada,malayalam languages. It has significant population of kannadigas(majorly in Ooty town, naduvattam,masinagudi and sholur side), both tamil and malayalam equally majority in gudalur,pandalur areas, both tamils and badugas equally in ooty,coonoor and kotagiri taluks, hence tamils present in all taluks of nilgiris. Kannadigas present significant only in few areas (I,e ooty town,naduvattam,sholur and masinagudi side), gudalur and pandalur has 50% of both tamil and malayalam and few 10% kannadiga migrant estate workers, gudalur side culture is similar to kerala (wayanad,malappuram).
These kanadigas once ran away from mysore to settle in niligirs in Tamilnadu and called themselves badagas. Todas who were the original tribes in Niligiris who belonged to Tamil Culture.
Those are lingayat and vokkaligas who came from Mysore and not badagas. Before posting something, one needs to know the difference between lingayat, vokkaligas and badagas.
@@praneshhaldorai79 As stated in Wikipedia "The name Badaga, meaning 'northerner', comes from Old Kannada Badagana, meaning 'north.'According to the Badaga oral tradition, their ancestors were presumed to be Vokkaligas who migrated from the plains of Mysore to avoid Muslim persecution
@@funguy6565 That's not correct. The Badaga community holds United Nations Accreditation. Which means, only the indigenous community can have such privilege. Also, the " purananooru " one of the oldest Tamil literature has references about badaga. If you compare, the dates between tipu sultan and purananooru, the purananooru predates tipu sultan's time.
@@praneshhaldorai79 Moreover one of the oldest and true inheritance of Niligiris are the TODAS... They themselves dont have any references about The badaga mentions from their old references.
@@praneshhaldorai79 Mere claims dont prove your inheritance to the land, there needs to be Support to your claims. The UN is an organization from outside India which might beleive the stories cooked up by todays badagas, as the only reference of information is from the badagas themselves.
View Tula 😀... Tuluvas in Tamilnadu in a where Kannada is spoken.
Unity in Diversity ❤️😀🙏
Tula is also a Malayalam word....
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As you visit places, if possible add 30 seconds on WFH comparability of the location.. internet for sims you have access to... Long stay and reception of ppl
Good suggestion. Will keep it in mind
Kannada 💙👑
Yesto Dina admele Nodi Bari kushi aithu Anna.... Shay entha view ala hehehe simple no change yet classic vlog that moment with kids was sweet ...and off roading nodi adu kollur vlog nenapaitu ride safe stay safe anna
ಕನ್ನಡ ಬ್ರೋ ❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥
Bro kannadadalli motovloging maadi bro
Last mansoon we went kinnakorai only 1 or 2 veichles was there nilgirisdu enkulna family mathra uppuni tulu patherna.
U should have visited the place called kilkavatty . There are badagas community
The state partitions is the reason, each states grabbed as much as possible, and people were too shared beyond borders... 😁
when i feel bored while studying this was the only channel make me boost up.....keep rocking bro
Hi Arun from where you bought that Duke 200 luggage Carrier.