Loved the video, I've started adjusting my SP to be able to fly the Tengu. The name of "Gistum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field" has been changed to "Gistum B-Type Multispectrum Shield Hardener"
Hey, what other skill do I need for cap stable this, I am getting only 2.3minute with level 4 capacitor management, and lvl5 capacitor system operation. And lvl5 shield compensation If I am right it will not make it cap stable even with capacitor management lvl5. Thank You
Things I would check: Afterburner Fuel Conservation Caldari Core Systems I have all level Vs for the above skills plus the ones you mentioned. Please also note you DONT need this to be cap stable, even just a simple bit like dropping the booster 1 cycle to stay >30% cap then turning back on is usually enough. Also staggering activations of modules so they dont all hit at the same time helps. 2.3 Min is a bit low for my tastes but still doable, could always use drugs or implants to help.
Do people actually buy the salvage materials from these sites? I thought it was mostly the Overseer Effects you sell to concord + a chance at faction/deadspace modules. Looking to start running these in a tengu fairly soonish. Thanks for the vid!
Most people stockpile the OPE and sell in a concord station for max isk, the salvage most people dont both with as its more efficient to run another site than it is to salvage and if you use another char to salvage then instead why not use that char to run more sites or do more productive stuff. Faction and deadspace stuff you can sell most places or bundle up to Jita etc.
For 10/10s T3Cs are king, big benefits for WHs is that T3s can pull out rigs and refit as needed(10/10s Fit, Travel/Scan fit, PVP fit), downside is SP loss on death and price is higher for fits and ship. Stratios is great for entry but cant really do most 10/10s, its cheaper but has a limited engage profile while solo.
Can u do the drone horde with an Ishtar?. The maze can be done and there are videos for it but drone horde with Ishtar, hmm...? and if u know any fit for it do tell.
You can but it will be absolutely cancerous, drone sites like to attack your drones, would be a lot of micromanagement. They can tank it but you need to keep the range. Would take way longer than a Tengu.
@@emPtysp4ce Depends on skills, check the resist difference but the fit was relatively over tanked to be honest. Worst case just take out more dps in the last room before boating in.
I am up for suggestions if there is something you want to see/learn about. Note though it might take longer depending on space and availability of sites.
I have recently resubbed and rejoined Pandemic Horde. I've been looking for some fits as I have 0 exp in escalations. what would you recommend? your tengu, a rattle or a golem ? for being safer? (not looking for faster clear time)
@@enimativd9106 note there are a decent amount of drone 10/10s available due to most runners being deployed for the war so there should be plenty to run. Careful of blue scouts and escalation hunters using recons to avoid dscan. Always have a ingate cloaked scout
@@sniperelewood just a little update. Ran my first Drone Hive today, did not finish it. web + dps from Mother had put me into half armor. All the other rooms were easy tho. For the last room, killing the cruisers or all the NPC will help me take down the Mother (less incoming DPS?)
@@enimativd9106 yes if you don't have great skills you must kill all the defenders before boating into rage range. If you are still breaking even with them dead kill more cruisers. If you are still breaking them something is wrong skill wise, defensive tengu sub and shield skills
Its the hotkey as 'Approach' which by default is 'Q'. You just press and hold Q then drag to distance you want, left click once to set those two planes(X and Z), then if you want to adjust the Y plane you can drag again otherwise just left click immediately. Nice easy way to move in 3D space.
Hello. It would be helpful to know what is your actual completion time. At first, I was going to ask you how much the video was sped up, then I noticed there are varying times. Sometimes very much faster, sometimes normal, sometimes somewhere in between.
Ty for asking as I thought I had credited it, It is: Below the Asteroids from in EvE th-cam.com/video/XjeujElo48Y/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=SpaceAmbientSpaceAmbient
Yes you can, there isn't much active tank or anything you have to break down dps wise. Just note that it will slow down clear time a bit. I recommend using blue pill and hardshell as the o crap button. Worst case warp out losing a site is not worth losing the tengu. Maybe use the DC while learning first run or with bad tank skills
@@sniperelewood eh, I recently got a Sansha 10/10. I could barely tank it in my dual rep Typhoon Fleet Issue, with the Hardshell and Pyrolancea IV I picked up during the Winter Nexus, plus some Strong Exile that I produced myself
@@sniperelewood oh wow, I feel stupid now, I looked completely over that line lol, I am glad you put this up here, I was thinking of trying Loki, but I see Tengu has more dps, granted Loki has better resists but it balances out I guess. Thanks again
@@sniperelewood a polarized Loki? hm, I have seen polarized Legions but I had no idea people have used a polarized Loki. I curious at the numbers for the dps for that fit now lol. Might have to see the differences to a Legion fit as I am still up in the air on any of them for 10/10s
Start with Mjol Javs for small stuff Scourge Rage for Elites Room 1 Room 2 no ammo just hacker card Room 3 Jav for small, Mjol Rage for sentient BS Room 4 Mjol jav for small, Mjol rage for large, Scourge Rage for sentient BS Room 5 Mjol Jav for small, Scourge Jav for hive defenders and for hive mother while out of Scourge Rage range.
I use Standard Containers, each uses 100 M3 in the ship but grants 120m3, its a neat little hack to get extra bang for your buck in space. Really useful on solo BS where you need more cap charges. wiki.eveuniversity.org/Containers
@@sniperelewood Ok I got it figured out. Just had to deploy and scoop it. Got it! Thank you man! Thanks to your video, Ive already done my 1st 10/10. Super fun!
Note, you dont have to deploy and scoop, while in station you can right click and assemble the container(from item hangar). GL Mate, hope you get lots of isk.
@@sniperelewood i am actually a member of PH as well :) With the same fit i have 54% EM resist... and u have 62%. Thats because of resist nerf or i am doing smth wrong?
@@November57 Shows how bad my memory is and how long ago I made this one, it is after the resist nerf(54% on my toon as well) but as long as you are skilled appropriately there is no danger in the site even with the resist difference. The only room that is even remotely dangerous is the last and you have the option of clearing more damage before boating into web range OR if you want to be super careful and spend some extra money you can use a mid-grade crystal set for extra rep.
Sadly it's just mostly garbage ammo etc. If you full clear (no hacker card) and bring a salvage boat you can get some extra isk but in my experience it's not worth the time as you could just be running the next site
@@sniperelewood not unless u have no more escalations. IMO I prefer doing full clear, even for sites like regular 3-5/10s, and the occasional 6/10 if I can. Provides me with good salvage that I can use for manufacturing
@@solitude9875 Yup that's fair, if you are doing min maxing time/isk and just chaining 10/10s(not done often nowadays for drone sites) then blitz is good. If you are trying to get the most isk per site and maybe have a toon come behind and salvage(Think a gila dps fit after tengu has taken the nasty stuff out, with a salvage refit) then your way is good.
@@sniperelewood you can actually drop an MTU in each room, clear it and BM one of the wrecks. Repeat for each room and when you’re done, warp out and refit to a salvaging fit, and warp to each BM and salvage away. Also use the subsystem that gives the extra bandwidth and drone bay, then fill it with Salvage Drone Is
@@solitude9875 Yeah I know I just wouldn't want to stop my main runner toon to do that. Plus the last thing I want to do is sit a shit worth a bil in a space that can be single cycled with combats then a cloaky warped in at 0.
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Loved the video, I've started adjusting my SP to be able to fly the Tengu. The name of "Gistum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field" has been changed to "Gistum B-Type Multispectrum Shield Hardener"
just about to watch this i been doin the maze for about a month but drones are so much easier to get i just didnt know how to run it. Thanks for vid
Thx for the vid. Currently skilling and grinding ISK for the Tengu. I just love the ship design and looks.
Cheers!
i wont join horde, but it was nice fighting alongside you all. thanks for the video man
Np and hope to see you in the next one
Straight beast bro. Good work
Glad you enjoyed
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Glad to have helped
Helpful
Ty, glad to help
many thanks sir!!
No problem, glad its been of use to people.
Ok, I'm not sure what skills I am missing, maybe it's in the sub system, but with the Pith A MSB I'm at -5.9% and with the Gist A, I'm at +20.5%
Check your core subsystem, as well as cap skills, as well as shield booster(there is one that reduces cap usage), AB skills as well.
@@sniperelewood yea I think it was in the subsystem skill I was lacking. Thank you
Hey, what other skill do I need for cap stable this, I am getting only 2.3minute with level 4 capacitor management, and lvl5 capacitor system operation. And lvl5 shield compensation
If I am right it will not make it cap stable even with capacitor management lvl5. Thank You
Things I would check:
Afterburner
Fuel Conservation
Caldari Core Systems
I have all level Vs for the above skills plus the ones you mentioned.
Please also note you DONT need this to be cap stable, even just a simple bit like dropping the booster 1 cycle to stay >30% cap then turning back on is usually enough. Also staggering activations of modules so they dont all hit at the same time helps. 2.3 Min is a bit low for my tastes but still doable, could always use drugs or implants to help.
@@sniperelewood Thanks mate, I will give it a try
Do people actually buy the salvage materials from these sites? I thought it was mostly the Overseer Effects you sell to concord + a chance at faction/deadspace modules. Looking to start running these in a tengu fairly soonish. Thanks for the vid!
Most people stockpile the OPE and sell in a concord station for max isk, the salvage most people dont both with as its more efficient to run another site than it is to salvage and if you use another char to salvage then instead why not use that char to run more sites or do more productive stuff. Faction and deadspace stuff you can sell most places or bundle up to Jita etc.
I think me mean salvage loot from mother, it will best go to jita and sell there
Awesome vid! Just left a corp and am thinking about going it alone in 10/10s or Wormholes, so looking at Tengu or Stratios. Any advise?
For 10/10s T3Cs are king, big benefits for WHs is that T3s can pull out rigs and refit as needed(10/10s Fit, Travel/Scan fit, PVP fit), downside is SP loss on death and price is higher for fits and ship. Stratios is great for entry but cant really do most 10/10s, its cheaper but has a limited engage profile while solo.
@@sniperelewood Really appreciate the advise! Tengu it is then. Kind of rooting for Tengu anyways. :)
@@sniperelewood is there still sp loss on death??
@@siddharthbirdi Yup, you lose your highest leveled subsystem for that ship.
Sound the Horde Horn, nice video
Ty ty
Can u do the drone horde with an Ishtar?. The maze can be done and there are videos for it but drone horde with Ishtar, hmm...?
and if u know any fit for it do tell.
You can but it will be absolutely cancerous, drone sites like to attack your drones, would be a lot of micromanagement. They can tank it but you need to keep the range. Would take way longer than a Tengu.
Thanks for the video! Next step, actually fitting this ship. Fuck, 2b is expensive
Yup its pricey, the good news is since its a T3C you can always repackage and resell later if you swap to other isk making endevors.
Hey I'm tired of grinding for the Gistum 🅱️-types, will the fit work with faction hardeners or Pithum C-types?
@@emPtysp4ce Depends on skills, check the resist difference but the fit was relatively over tanked to be honest. Worst case just take out more dps in the last room before boating in.
I love the tengu video u should make more!!
I am up for suggestions if there is something you want to see/learn about. Note though it might take longer depending on space and availability of sites.
Hey man, Do you think this will work with T2 Heavy Missiles too? getting to about 730DPS with my implants. My HAM skills are still in the queue.
Yes it will work with T2 missiles however the final structure will be much slower as its a pretty hefty grind.
I have recently resubbed and rejoined Pandemic Horde. I've been looking for some fits as I have 0 exp in escalations. what would you recommend? your tengu, a rattle or a golem ? for being safer? (not looking for faster clear time)
T3C like the tengu is definitely safest from hunters. Blops is second safest imo but higher skill req, I would not consider the others
@@sniperelewood Alright, Ill go to jita and but that ship. cost like 2B and ship it to TKE :)
@@enimativd9106 note there are a decent amount of drone 10/10s available due to most runners being deployed for the war so there should be plenty to run. Careful of blue scouts and escalation hunters using recons to avoid dscan. Always have a ingate cloaked scout
@@sniperelewood just a little update. Ran my first Drone Hive today, did not finish it. web + dps from Mother had put me into half armor. All the other rooms were easy tho. For the last room, killing the cruisers or all the NPC will help me take down the Mother (less incoming DPS?)
@@enimativd9106 yes if you don't have great skills you must kill all the defenders before boating into rage range. If you are still breaking even with them dead kill more cruisers. If you are still breaking them something is wrong skill wise, defensive tengu sub and shield skills
When setting up your transversal, what keyboard short cut is that? I have never seen that before. At the 2:00 mark.
Its the hotkey as 'Approach' which by default is 'Q'. You just press and hold Q then drag to distance you want, left click once to set those two planes(X and Z), then if you want to adjust the Y plane you can drag again otherwise just left click immediately. Nice easy way to move in 3D space.
@@sniperelewood 12 years of EVE and still finding new things. Thanks man.
Hello. It would be helpful to know what is your actual completion time. At first, I was going to ask you how much the video was sped up, then I noticed there are varying times. Sometimes very much faster, sometimes normal, sometimes somewhere in between.
45-60 minutes roughly but it's been awhile since I've done it.
@@sniperelewood Ok not too shabby. Best I've done so far is 71 minutes. I'll keep working on it. Thanks! Fly safe. 07
What is the name of the song used at the start of the video?
Ty for asking as I thought I had credited it,
It is: Below the Asteroids from in EvE
th-cam.com/video/XjeujElo48Y/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=SpaceAmbientSpaceAmbient
Can you replace a CNBCS for a DC II for extra tank? You know, for that extra armor and hull buffer in case the shit hits the fan
Yes you can, there isn't much active tank or anything you have to break down dps wise. Just note that it will slow down clear time a bit. I recommend using blue pill and hardshell as the o crap button. Worst case warp out losing a site is not worth losing the tengu. Maybe use the DC while learning first run or with bad tank skills
@@sniperelewood eh, I recently got a Sansha 10/10. I could barely tank it in my dual rep Typhoon Fleet Issue, with the Hardshell and Pyrolancea IV I picked up during the Winter Nexus, plus some Strong Exile that I produced myself
@@solitude9875 Yup sounds about right, each 10/10 is different, I plan on covering them all when I can but currently very busy outside PvE
I see this video was from back in Jan, are you still using same fitting or have you changed a bit since?
Yup as the desc says even after the resist nerf it works just fine.
@@sniperelewood oh wow, I feel stupid now, I looked completely over that line lol, I am glad you put this up here, I was thinking of trying Loki, but I see Tengu has more dps, granted Loki has better resists but it balances out I guess. Thanks again
@@HappyHourHusker No worries it happens, Loki is ok, I've seen a polarized fit work(Normal for clearing, polarized for last struct)
@@sniperelewood a polarized Loki? hm, I have seen polarized Legions but I had no idea people have used a polarized Loki. I curious at the numbers for the dps for that fit now lol. Might have to see the differences to a Legion fit as I am still up in the air on any of them for 10/10s
Can someone tell what ammo to use against whome.. I didn't take notes😅
Start with Mjol Javs for small stuff
Scourge Rage for Elites Room 1
Room 2 no ammo just hacker card
Room 3 Jav for small, Mjol Rage for sentient BS
Room 4 Mjol jav for small, Mjol rage for large, Scourge Rage for sentient BS
Room 5 Mjol Jav for small, Scourge Jav for hive defenders and for hive mother while out of Scourge Rage range.
@@sniperelewood thanks a lot :)
How do you have containers in your ships inventory to organize them? I want to organize all my stuff.
I use Standard Containers, each uses 100 M3 in the ship but grants 120m3, its a neat little hack to get extra bang for your buck in space. Really useful on solo BS where you need more cap charges.
wiki.eveuniversity.org/Containers
@@sniperelewood Ok I got it figured out. Just had to deploy and scoop it. Got it! Thank you man! Thanks to your video, Ive already done my 1st 10/10. Super fun!
Note, you dont have to deploy and scoop, while in station you can right click and assemble the container(from item hangar). GL Mate, hope you get lots of isk.
This still works in nov 2021?
Yup, no major changes since the video. Still works according to people who have learned with this video and are in my alliance actively running.
@@sniperelewood i am actually a member of PH as well :)
With the same fit i have 54% EM resist... and u have 62%. Thats because of resist nerf or i am doing smth wrong?
@@November57 Shows how bad my memory is and how long ago I made this one, it is after the resist nerf(54% on my toon as well) but as long as you are skilled appropriately there is no danger in the site even with the resist difference. The only room that is even remotely dangerous is the last and you have the option of clearing more damage before boating into web range OR if you want to be super careful and spend some extra money you can use a mid-grade crystal set for extra rep.
How do i get that zbikoki´s hacker card?
You can buy them on contract in Jita, you can also get them from running L4s
Whats in the flotsam containers that you didn’t loot?
Sadly it's just mostly garbage ammo etc. If you full clear (no hacker card) and bring a salvage boat you can get some extra isk but in my experience it's not worth the time as you could just be running the next site
@@sniperelewood not unless u have no more escalations. IMO I prefer doing full clear, even for sites like regular 3-5/10s, and the occasional 6/10 if I can. Provides me with good salvage that I can use for manufacturing
@@solitude9875 Yup that's fair, if you are doing min maxing time/isk and just chaining 10/10s(not done often nowadays for drone sites) then blitz is good. If you are trying to get the most isk per site and maybe have a toon come behind and salvage(Think a gila dps fit after tengu has taken the nasty stuff out, with a salvage refit) then your way is good.
@@sniperelewood you can actually drop an MTU in each room, clear it and BM one of the wrecks. Repeat for each room and when you’re done, warp out and refit to a salvaging fit, and warp to each BM and salvage away. Also use the subsystem that gives the extra bandwidth and drone bay, then fill it with Salvage Drone Is
@@solitude9875 Yeah I know I just wouldn't want to stop my main runner toon to do that. Plus the last thing I want to do is sit a shit worth a bil in a space that can be single cycled with combats then a cloaky warped in at 0.
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