Peter Hitchens on the Future for Britain's Youth. Is there any hope?
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- On this week's Deprogrammed, hosts Harrison Pitt of the European Conservative & freelance writer Evan Riggs are joined by author & journalist Peter Hitchens for an indepth discussion of everything from drug laws to conservatism, the Tory Party and the future for Britain and its youth. What, if anything, can young British conservatives do to improve their future?
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....Then Hitchens says he doesn't care about vaping... He's such a monstrously vain individual, literally clueless about related subjects. 'Oh you can't just switch subjects on me like that" Lol .
His voice is 'curated' >.< He can't just talk like that about other things.
There's no hope. The masses will keep on voting for the same two parties who are both:
anti-British
anti-family
anti-small business
anti-privacy
anti-free speech
anti-common sense
Spot on truth
& Pro mass immigration
Exactly. The first issue is our FPTP system.
You could have left it at "The masses will keep on voting".
Well the hope comes when it all collapses.
How refreshing to hear , once again, a realistic, common sense perspective from Peter Hitchens. I do not agree with him that the moral, cultural, and economic decline that we are experiencing is the result of stupidity. This decline is deliberate, meticulously planned, and well executed. All over the West simultaneously.
I almost agree with you. I think the initial plan was planned by the Soviets: infiltrate the universities and produce generations of subversives. However, I think their plan worked so well but it mutated into woke and now, decades and decades after those who started all this are dust, it has a life of its own. I´m not even sure they´d like it!
Yes, all by design ...
Waves of many things over the years can and have swept across the European continent and West in general but I agree. Too much has been documented for over a century about intention
@@LettyKAll by what design? Hidden force you cannot see, defeat?
'i---m'?
YES , but stupidity ,indolence and ignorance have given permission to all of the degeneration to happen.
Drugs isn't the problem in Scotland its the SNP driving people to use drugs
I think its got a lot to do with what on the TV these days, whats in the papers and of course social media - its all actually quite soul destroying.
Ha ha!
Drugs push people's boundaries, norms become warped. It is not good for society, look at how we have become now that everyone smokes. I'm a smoker myself and I admit it.
@@raijinenel3116Homo-sapien, probably neanderthals, have smoked, used, nicotine, tobacco, for millennia.
What's this, 'Now that everyone smokes'?
You mean the allies, victorious in the 2nd WW were known for smoking, and because you were mightily pissed off they won, now to hate smokers. Bizarre.
@@John-uh8kl yes, and they were living in caves, my point exactly, this country was great when people didn't do drugs. And now it regressing backwards thanks to immigration and an apathy fueled by drug use. I don't care about nicotine, I'm on about weed, the subject of this video.........
Historian & Journalist, Peter Hitchens, has been writing books and writing articles for many years. At last, people are starting to realise that what he's been saying is correct. Now at the 11th hour it's time to react. If we don't, this country is finished for good.
I read the Abolition of Britain around the year 2000. Up until then, I had thought that I was a Tory, but could never quite understand my dislike for the Conservative Party. After reading the book, it slowly dawned on me that I wasn´t a Tory, but that I was a conservative and that the two were very different things. As the years have passed, these differences have become more apparent, but unfortunately far too many people can´t see them and still vote for a party that hates them.
@@burtingtune I left the Tory party some years ago and joined UKIP. When UKIP lost their direction, I have nobody to vote for. I bet you don't either.
It is already too late and I think people are not able to handle the truth. Enoch Powell was never listened to and the brainwashing is deep, so deep and in everything. Sometimes subtle often crystal clear but if you try and explain what is happening you are a toxic, racist person. It’s laughable to still talk politics as a way of hope. Never going to happen because we are controlled not by government but pure evil psychopaths. While countless problems exist the major one is Islam which has a mission to destroy us but we so thick and petrified allow our culture to disappear. Wake up, it’s too late.
@@DavidA-ps1qr Vote Reform UK.
@@jjohanesson9139 What's a Hstorrian?
Hitchens at his best. Small group, relaxed atmosphere, pub chat
A pub? Where they peddle the most damaging and far reaching 'drug' on the planet. Alcohol.
Experienced knowledgeable old Coelacanth .
@@stephengirling7859 🍻 Here's to 62 years of happy imbibing, and no addiction.
'Two parties stiffened by rigor mortis holding each other up.' Brilliant stuff! Thank you. I have to commit that quote to memory and slot it into conversation. Peter, you never fail to keep me interested in your well chosen words, and, never more so than in this fascinating conversation. Thank you to all concerned.
I have plenty of time for Hitchens and while not having come across Harrison Pitt before, I am impressed. In addition to his interesting line of thought, his calm tone is exemplary and he was very patient with PH. These younger conservatives give me reasons for hope.
The Conservatives are the reason we’re in this mess. They’re controlled opposition. They’re there to manage the decline and keep right wing people bought in to the two party puppet governments.
I adore Peter Hitchens ❤️ both Hitchens brothers actually...
🍻 to the memory of Christopher; and🍻 to us still having Peter. Interesting, Likeable. Courageous. Unafraid of controversy.
@hittitecharioteer5056 cheers with Johnny Black 🥃🥃Christopher was the real deal, erudite, interesting, the most intellectually elegant person of the last 50 years ♥️ Peter is pretty wonderful himself. The world owes so much to the Hitchens brothers
@@manusha1349 Indeed🤝
@@wavell14 as opposed to peak Groomer.....way better imo
@@manusha1349 😂🤣👍🏻
Gentlemen, Well Done!!. Peter Hitchens is a force to be reckoned with and you gave us a highly enjoyable interview. Thank you!
Peter Hitchens is so much worth listening to. Greatly admired.
I always become energised at the prospect of a new Peter Hitchens interview. Thank you to the channel. I would love to see a Hitchens manifesto, along the lines of 12 Rules for a Conservative Life. Here’s hoping🤞🏻
Really enjoyed this discussion, everything Peter said is right, I have only recently found the New Culture Forum and like what I see and hear, lots of good debates and sensible discussions no shouting over each other so refreshing
I feel the struggle of the gentleman on the left. He tried so hard to get Peter to give a solid view on what the younger generation could do. But he didn’t get anywhere with Peter who is stuck in his ways. I literally know every Hitchens talking point off by heart, and when he goes off on his famous Segways i’m repeating it in my head as I’ve heard it all before.
I just don’t think Peter understands that there are vast swathes of young people in this country who understand him & he’s talking point’s & it Just doesn’t cross his mind. For him the battle is done and the book is closed. But it’s not.
Yeah this is why I can't stand Hitchens. He has nothing useful to say other than we're all doomed like some aged version of Greta Thumburg. So I wish he would take his advice and just shut up and leave.
Unfortunately when we take back control of our country, it will be after a dark period of violence. I dont think anyone wants to acknowledge that.
“Why can’t young Conservatives lead a new counter-revolution?”
…because you don’t have your own sh*t together, kiddos.
An old vanguard is spitting facts, and is interminably interrupted.
Things will get worse, before they get better.
Plan accordingly.
- The Other Coelacanth
@@basilbaby7678 Whereas the woke definitely have their sh*t together. Hitchens just needs to piss off, he contributes nothing but doom.
There aren't vast swathes of us. We are a tiny minority.
Well that cheered me up no end.
Hitches is the voice of reason. A man of high intellect and not just an attention seeking contrarian. His questioning of Lucy Letby’s guilt is a fine example of his intellect.
Always box office Mr. Hitchens. Fantastic to see him back on the channel.
Well done gentlemen, the best Peter Hitchens interview ever, precisely because you gave him the floor.
He gave himself the floor. Haha.
It’s a novel idea but letting the interviewee speak works quite well. I only wish the mainstream would give it a go… 😏
"British people will only remember Christ when the Islam ban the alcohol in the pubs". Chesterton.
, but our Jihadist neighbors are some of the biggest bootleggers.
Please don't put quotation marks around barely legible nonsense statements and then attribute them to as great an aphorist as G. K. Chesterton.
That said, please do read The Flying Inn, which I assume has been mindlessly truncated into this "quotation".
You're very mad abdul stole your mum@@basilbaby7678
@@basilbaby7678big mad
Angryjew
I read Peter"s book 'The abolition of britain' in 2000 and also 'The abolition of liberty'. I have always admired Peter kitchens as a man of conviction who has never backed down on the subject of drugs. Anyone who still argues for the legalisation of drugs when the evidence of the negative effects on society is overwhelming should be ridiculed.
As an Englishmen living in Sweden , if someone had asked me previous to covid which country would likely lockdown , Sweden or Britain , I would without hesitation have said , Sweden. Lost all faith in the country of my birth.
The war on drugs has failed because, as Hitchens says, it was never fought. Anybody who has ever been to a pub over the last few decades knows that is a fact.
You can smell it in the street in our town.
Say that to all the ppl in jail in the us for carrying small amounts of 🌿
The war has been a catastrophic failure, aided the growth of huge organised crime networks, destabilised entire countries, and criminalised otherwise law abiding citizens for the ‘crime’ of getting high once in a while.
@@sdrawkcabUKwasn’t Harold Shipman ‘otherwise law-abiding’?
@@elliottdennis2014 false analogy. Taking a E at a rave is not the same as offing 100s of grannies mate.
@@sdrawkcabUK ... and if you look into their cases ... they are almost all charged with other offences at the same time.
A very enlightening conversation, indeed! Thanks to all of you!...
My brother took his own life at the age of 31, in 1994. He had been smoking weed for several years. I had noticed how it affected his mood, he became distant and moody in the evenings, having been engaging and personable before his first daily smoke. I knew little about the drug at the time but I am now convinced that it was a factor in his tragic loss.
It rots the brain
The world is so depressing, miserable and full of disappointment, I can't blame them.
@@wavell14, yeah, but water is essential to the operation of the human organism…weed is an alien compound.
@@wavell14 Not funny and, not comparable.
@@wavell14Water doesn't adversely impact on the brain or cause cognitive distortions like cannabis does. What a stupid statement.
I was addicted to cannabis for 14 years and quitting was a real challenge. All of the anxieties I was suppressing were brought to the surface and combined with withdrawals it was a challenging few months. Life has improved since then and I’ll never look back
Do you think that keeping drugs illegal would have helped you stop?
@@stevecamm9733 The short answer is yes. I was always surrounded by other users and it was always approved of by people around me. I moved to Wyoming from NYC in 2021 and quit smoking a year later. I wanted to be more like the rural Americans I admired. They live healthier lives. That being said I think many people use the drug without abusing it the way I did. I smoked it all day, every day for years.
@@stevecamm9733I live in the Netherlands Amsterdam I smoke weed almost daily. The coffee shop is next to my house.. closer than any store
@robsamartino71 don't you think then, that it's more of a personality trait than a legal status? Some people are simply more prone to addiction than others?
@@stevecamm9733 I don’t think people should be arrested for smoking cannabis as many people do not abuse it. Moreover I don’t think I was ever a danger to anyone while stoned.
Love Peter, his thinking, insight and humour. I hope he writes many more books
peter hitchens is truly a one off, regardless of who is interviewing him he always makes it difficult for them, unlike so many people he will always speak his mind and challenge the interviewer, he is absolutely correct about the state of the nation, it is a lost battle but in saying that we have to continue fighting
I have long been an admirer of Peter Hitchens and own all but two of his books. He is a fascinating commentator and always worth listening to, but I don't think any good can come of embracing his black pill message. Human beings thrive on hope and when I took his message to heart, I lost it. I became depressed and self-destructive. Hitchens is knowledgable and clever, but he doesn't have a crystal ball and he is too pessimistic about the future, about which he knows nothing; just like the rest of us. Instead of moping around and lamenting the damage done to this country, work to self-improve and make yourself stronger and more able to deal with whatever challenges life brings. When I stopped taking his word for gospel and realised that he has been wrong many times like everyone else, I became happier and more productive. Our parliamentary system allows for radical national self-correction. There is always hope that we as a people can force change. Listen to Hitchens, but don't deify him.
Peter literally explained that his outlook is due to folks still not listening to what he’s explaining to them.
Participating in this “interview”, and reading comments like your own…must be like some 12 Monkeys’ level Cassandra Syndrome for him.
No wonder the man takes his coffee black.
@@basilbaby7678 I am very familiar with Hitchens' arguments and I dare say I know them better than you. I own all of his books apart from 'Short Breaks in Mordor' and 'A Revolution Betrayed' and have read some of them twice. I have watched all of his Question Time appearances, listened to all of his Any Questions appearances, watched all of his documentaries, including Toff at the Top and This Sceptic Isle, I have seen and read all of his other interviews, TV appearances, (both here and in the US, where he frequently discussed current events on C-SPAN in the 90s) speeches, debates and read his column every Sunday. I have read huge swathes of his blog and have also read books he has commended and watched many films he has praised. I agree with much of what he says, but his defeatist pessimism does absolutely no good. The future is uncertain and there is a hint of sulkiness and self-importance in his insistence that the fate of the entire country rested on people doing what he said. He is not infallible. He was wrong when he predicted a Remain victory and has changed his position on many other issues over his life. Not only his Marxism, but also his faith in free market economics, of which he used to be a proponent. Implementing what he recommends nowadays means leaving the country and accepting that it will sink into the third world. Sorry, but I spent too much of my life embracing this dead-end doomerism. I'm going to live, do the best I can and live in hope.
@@tbone35453 , no offense, but your last comment is performative text vomit.
You may have bought all the books, joined the official fan club , and have received the merit badge in the mail, but you can’t buy into understanding…which you clearly haven’t grasped.
Go back, and pay attention to what Peter actually said…not just to how you felt about it.
Peace, brother.
Peter is correct about our system and that there is no fixing it, however, there are two key elements that he overlooked. The first is that there is no exit from the current regime as it is an international order, so running away is useless. The second is that the collapse of the nation is not to be run from but celebrated. It is just like Marinetti wrote, the crucible of conflict will cleanse the nation and the people, and that peace is as fatal to the soul of the Anglo-Saxon as it is to the Germanic or Latin.
@@basilbaby7678 No offence, but you strike me as a bit thick. You seem to think that anything short of total agreement with Hitchens is failure to understand him. He has said on many occasions that the only advice he has for the young is to leave the country, because it is doomed. When pressed on what 'doomed' means, he is vague. This is what he said, not 'how I feel about' what he said. As I stated in my original reply, I have read and understood his thesis on the decline of Britain, and agree with much of it, but his 'all is lost' doomerism is an opinion, not fact. You seem to be willing to outsource your thinking to Peter Hitchens. I am not.
Oh how I have enjoyed this. Thank you all so much. What a pleasure to see Harrison Pitt interviewing Peter Hitchens with such tact, care and respect ... and so evidently having done a lot of research beforehand. And almost uniquely among the young, now, Pitt has a good educated voice, which it is a pleasure to hear. Again: thank you. SCT
Peter says young people should leave the UK but he never says where to. We aren't experiencing the fall of the UK, we are experiencing the fall of humanity, so there is no place of hope that I'm aware of.
There are plenty of options. It is not for Peter to direct us on where to go because different countries will be better suited to different people. My preference is Denmark. It’s a very wealthy country, has good public services, a nice culture, and generally much higher standards of living. Also, the language is relatively easy to learn.
I think ‘the west’ collectively faces wider problems, however, there are countries that are much less effected than the UK.
Most of Europe is on literally the same trajectory just at different stages. Other than Russia, China and Iran there are no real alternative powerblocks. Even Japan is now being in the rainbow agenda and Poland mass islamisation through importing scum.
Hungry isn't going to stand up against the world and the European countries less far along are merely waiting their turn.
@@urban.uk.official If I were interested in anywhere it would probably be Florida or Sweden for avoiding the worst of the covid tyranny. However, I probably wouldn't be able to stand the Floridian climate and I'm not a fan of the wider USA. I think Sweden had a lucky escape as Swedes do appear highly trusting of the government; it could have gone a different way. I wouldn't want to be separated from family either.
Hard to beat Australia.. been here 15years now. It’s like de je vu in a sense. They’re doing the exact mistakes UK did - 20 years we’ll be screwed. So it looks like another planet 🌚 is more viable? One with no people on it, preferably.
Sweden?? Are you insane? If you stay out in the woods perhaps. @@mattlm64
How refreshing to hear Hitchens speak.
Love Peter he’s been consistently miserable 😂
He was almost smiling at the start of the convo.
Living in the UK generally does that to you
Being the only sane person in a world of foolery is depressing.
With good reason.
The Long Shadow of Default by David James Gill is the book on Britain's unpaid war debts to the US that Peter couldn't remember.
The UK is finished, I left a while ago and I've watched it get worse day by day. When you have a police force that has lost drastic numbers, is weak, woke and ineffective (unless you call someone names on the internet) and no-one respects, thats the beginning of the end. Uncontrolled migration, 2 parties that are weak and no viable alternative have also contributed to the UK being on its knees.
Its such a shame.
No green hair.
No metal hanging out of their faces.
Clean.
Shaved .
Tidy .
Smart .
Well dressed.
Not fat and lazy.
We have hope.
Not exactly representative of the wider public at large, so you're only fooling yourself. Maybe you live in a very gentile affluent area. Up my way, it's full of ruffians and hardly anyone below a certain age (80) doesn't have tattoos plastered all over themselves. This country is utterly finished. The only part preventing anarchy is the comforts afforded by a crumbling, broken economy.
The Mods used to have a much cleaner approach to the modern world : they were experimental but tidy, they listened to vanguard jazz, they favoured scooters as an utility and excursion vehicle, they strove to be courteous.
One thing young people can do instead of leaving is defending Christianity. I think it's about time to take a side. Even if you don't complete understand Christianity (who does?) and you're not completely convinced (how many are), look at the alternative - it's unthinkable.
Exactly.
Few understand the meaning of “faith”, and their materialist cynicism undermines their alleged desire.
Many in the church in cities in the USA have lost their minds. They are not conservative at all.
"The alternative" ?? Society doesn't need Christianity or any other religion thanks. We can do better than Iron Age belief systems. Why not just take the golden rule that Christianity adopted but which existed long before (as the tale of The Good Samaritan proves) - treat others as we'd like to be treated ourselves. Just be nice to people. Society has become incredibly lazy and incredibly selfish. Family values have been lost with the invention of smart phones, iPads etc. TV dinners rather than meals around the table. Parents too busy with work to interact with their children. Lots of little things that add up to make a big difference. I like Peter Hitchens and I enjoy his books but he revels in playing the downer. His sweeping pessimistic statements annoy but capture his listeners and readers. I agree with many of the points that he makes on drugs, but I disagree with his points on religion. He laments the broken families in society. Instead he should be grateful that the relationship with his wife lasted a long time. For others it just doesn't, no matter how hard they work at it, and he always fails to grasp that.
The legend Peter Hitchens, thanks!
My daughter hassuffered severe mental health problems because of taking drugs,including hachís.
Alex Berenson in the USA wrote about weed being horrific for you. He is a science journalist who was a whistleblower during Covid and banned on twitter but then won the lawsuit against the Biden Administration.
The happy pessimist speaks the truth. We need an American version. Excellent discussion and enlightening. Please continue.
Is there hope? Answer = No. Reason = We have 2 parties both high tax, high spend, pro illegal immigration etc
Parties have changed in the past. Can again. Don't be a weak little vaccine taking coward like Hitchens.
Legal immigration is just a big an issue as illegal immigration.
Love Peter..our country is done its long gone. high jacked with greed and fear.😢
My oh My, Peter is difficult to manage but a fantastic opportunity to enhance your considerable skills. Well done gentlemen.
To “manage” P. Hitchens is to miss the forest for the trees.
Dope is called dope for a good reason.
Lockdowns, £9000 tutition fees, soaring national debt, higher taxes, unfordable housing, a unworkable rental market, a unsecure job market, stagnant wages. All the problems highlighted have been caused by a older generation and it is the youth that have to pay it all back!!
That's the way it goes from one generation to the next, stop moaning roll your sleeves up and get on with it
Cruise trips matters.
2nd homes, and fat retirement packages matter too.
@@basilbaby7678 What's truly aggravating is that there now needs to be a constant influx of cheap Labour to pay for all the largesse of the boomer generation. So that's another thing. But as long as they keep their high standard of living and their buy to lets.
As a baby boomer, I have never had money, parents were poor but thrifty. We used bottles not plastic, returned for tuppence, had no plastic bags, drank water from the tap, bought fresh food, not wrapped in plastic and you have the cheek to blame us, truth is it’s the youngsters of today that’s ruining the world certaintly wasn’t us. We didn’t have tv until I was 13, get your facts right.
Never ceases to make you think, especially on drugs policy (or lack of it) has made me question a lot of what I believed
Peter Hitchens is the only journalist in the whole of British mainstream media I respect. I'm sure those in the establishment are desperate to censor him, but he knows how to keep a clean nose.
He’s having such a good time messing with you two .. ! Grumpy old man schtick tuned up to 11 on that day!
Excellent discussion, gentlemen - thanks...
☝️😎
I would also like to point out the figure massaging in cause of death. If a person jumps off a building because they are high, it will not be recorded as a drug death, but we would all agree that it wasn't really gravity at fault. And the number of suicides that happen under the influence.
We have become a culture of enablers. That's all we are. And our children will eventually look at us and ask why.
wrong. the underlying problem is not drugs it never was. its culture and the severe lack of oppurtunity in this country that is driving people to use.
@@robaudi20vSome people will succumb to the flesh no matter what chances surround them. They always have done. A weak Church, weak moral leadership all round havent helped to teach children how to develoo strength of mind.
@@robaudi20v 'severe lack of oppurtunity'? Drug taking was rife all through the boom years. Not so much during my grandfather's lifetime, when he lived in the slums, lost his teeth at 20 and had to queue up at the local public bath to wash himself.
You know why enablers exist? They hope to create a covenant of mutual, hypocritical sin.
I like peter his story is one that I will never forget
Decriminalising is a fudge! I want to see the drugs taken completely out of the hands of the criminals!
The question never asked, let alone answered, is? What is so terrible about our society that so many seek the escape through drugs?
"Society is an abstraction. Abstraction is not a reality. What is reality is relationship between man and man. The relationship between man and man has created that which we call society. Man is violent, self-centred, seeking pleasure, frightened, insecure; in himself he is corrupt and in his relationship, whether intimate or not, has created this so-called society. We always try to change society, not change man who creates the society in which we live." - J Krishnamurti
In other words we are all responsible for the society we have created that people need to escape from. But very few people want to or need to change themselves because it's hard work and painful. It's easier to be someone like Hitchens who is addicted to his own opinions and see's others as the problem which they think need changing.
That's the right question. We have to remove the demand - until we do, there will always be profits for new suppliers.
@@danielcowan8673 philosophy in common wjth Sophistry is a "con job ," in order to bamboozle the audience into " stumping up" for a free lunch or drinks!
Harrison, you did well to push back against this Jeremiah. There is still a fight worth fighting.
The intention was admirable, but ill-placed.
Harrison kept demanding his assertion/wish be validated, when that is rather impossible.
It’s unstoppable, this acceptance and indulgence of drugs. Sad, but true.
What a grumpy old defeatist Hitchens is.
He wasn’t being defeatist…he just wasn’t saying what people wanted to hear.
He made clear reference to planning, and moving on…but was over-talked, and dismissed.
You can never go back to what once was…so what now?
Some people would rather follow a carrot off a cliff, I guess.
Thank you Peter. Always interesting
Brilliant.
I've recently flown back from the Irish West Coast to see family. I can say with confidence that it's no utopia, but it seems to be a better place for the hope of your children in comparison to London where I am
Wow. I don't agree with Peter Hitchens' pessimism on the Second World War but he's otherwise brilliant and Harrison and Evan held their own bravely. By the way, will Harrison be donating his notebooks to the British Library - I feel, they need to be appropriately archived. Great show!
We do know one thing about vaping - if it was aimed at weaning existing smokers off tobacco they would be pushing tobacco-flavoured vapes. It is, in fact, a way of encouraging young people to take it up and so the flavours are sweet - just like alco-pops.
Its always been tough, but right now if you are a white working class male everyone and everything is against you in the West and places like the UK in particular. I was born into a council flat, managed to work hard and about a year after my Masters in 2017 (where I couldnt get an interview for Lidl let alone my field) left for East Asia where I have been able to create a life for myself and future children ten times better than would be possible back home. I have a car, a house, a happy marriage, no debt, high income and business opportunities and hope for the future in a non-woke traditional society. I only ever visit the UK to see family now, otherwise I would never go back.
Fundamentally I can never live somewhere that permits hundred of illegal migrants to arrive each day and spends millions daily looking after them while the indigenous working class suffer.
The threw core traits of Western governments that I see:
1) Short termism
2) Looking after the minority not the majority
3) Putting global interests and the rights of foreigners above those of their own people
Great interview.
I needed this dose of optimism.😂
Often the red pill has a chaser of black.
Love what Peter Hitchens has to say but, Harrison, let your generation be the one to prove him WRONG 👍
No chance it'll happen, the country is finished. I said it before I even recalled Hitchens saying it first, and I got a black eye for the privilege of it. No wonder we're in such a mess, people don't like facing facts.
The fact is your parents or their parents dropped the Ball and those who were very focussed on that ball came in and picked it up ...we can either learn from this and get the ball back or we can play out the role of victims, the time for discussion is over the time to prepare and make sure the capacity to act is in place is calling. The Devil can only lead astray those who cannot see him when he appears.
Great stuff lads
Superb interview
That was very good guys, well done all
I wonder if Mr Hitchens enjoyed his visit to Aylesbury this week - I said hello to him outside the bookshop at St Mary's Church.
Indeed I did, Andrew, and was grateful for your hospitality. Alas, I came away with a feeling i often have in English towns, that they have been despoiled in the 20th century. But though much is taken, much abides.
@@peterhitchens4240 I saw the St. Pancras Renaissance Hotel for the first time on Wednesday, the glorious Gothic revivalist architecture stands in jarring juxtaposition to the modernist British Library next door, which looks like a mundane building you would find in a bog standard comprehensive.
I was born in 1976 it's my birthday today I'm 47 😮 I feel great my imagination and creative outlook is at its best! I was a Raver in the 90s a Rock Festival fan in the 00s took loads of happy stuff. I don't go near it now however I do have multiple personalities that do great things I never thought I could
on the drugs issue i think i agree with peter..the mass social use of strong weed and party drugs has had a huge inpact on society, i myself know dozens that it effected short and long term but the attitude was to laugh it off to a degree in progressive circles
I myself put some anxiety problems ive suffered down to this and my use was minimum compared to my peer group in the 90s early 2000s
Hitchens is a legend
Great show,, The Hitch was funny .... I am in shock!!
Hitchens thinks that "Marijuana" can be outlawed by going back to laws which pre-date the 1960's. Despite the fact that not only are there several millions of people that use it but that people can now grow it in their gardens and in their houses.
His views on cannabis are an indulgent fantasy that he Pied Pipers others to follow (its the gateway drug to buying his book). It works in his head but is completely beyond the realms of 2023 reality.
He doesn't address points which take him off his well rehearsed script (on Twitter) and simply ignores what he can't answer.
When Reagan was running the war on drugs, he was succeeding, but the Boomers valued their recreation over their legacy. They voted some the biggest drug runners into the Arkansas governorship, and then into the White House.
Everyone knows whatever floats in the US…England will eventually adopt, like a starry-eyed school kid.
Brilliant!
Taking drugs is an absolutely understandable reaction to the realities of the human experience.
Nah, you're a coward if you can't face life.
@@michaelrogerson5151 not everyone is as brave as you
Surely that is not a solution
@@newtonia-uo4889 no not a solution but understandable
He talks at the end about the broadcasting rules needing to be changed to have a chance at change in the party system. But the legacy system of broadcasting is rapidly becoming obsolete. In a few years time it will be irrelevant. The internet is the true battleground of ideas. Conservatives, being conservatives, tend to be way behind the times on stuff like that. But if they could keep up, then there might be a chance...
If you listen to the death penalty debate in America it points out how America is the only Advanced Western democracy which allows the punishment. The prefix to democracy seems surprisingly crass and puts down Japan, South-Korea and Taiwan who are all advanced democracies but are Asian and have the death penalty. Rank hypocrisy.
The U.S.A is a backward country.
And Singapore for that matter
I am abnormal…I am so allergic to weed (I don’t know how to spell the correct name), if around it I immediately have an asthma attack. I was in Hammersmith today and had to escape rapidly because I couldn’t breathe. The fumes also affect my behaviour. I need to live on a pure island.
Hainan Island, China.
@@myleshagar9722 it looked beautiful then I saw the bridge to the big world! I’d love to visit.
I’ve heard Pluto has vacancies 😂
@@growlerthe2nd712 but it’s been delisted as a planet…
I am surprised that there might be members of the conservative party who are still Conservatives.
I have since March 2019 given up all hope when after deadline after deadline we still were left with That Womans Withdrawal act.
It was the nail in the coffin when, those whom I thought were staunch Conservatives, like JRM, VOTED at the third time of asking for Mays deal, proving he was much more a party loyalist than a true conservative.
I simply could no longer stomache all those parliamentary votes, and was devastated on about April 15th that we were not to leave on No Deal terms, rather Boris who swore to leave Deal or No Deal in July, fleshed it out till October and signed up for a border down the Irish sea.
It became apparent that Boris deal was Mays deal. The lying would continue, and so it does even more so today.
What should happen now to these young but so few in number burgeoning Conservatives is, they should make it plain to the Conservative party voter that they are the elect Conservative remainder of what used to be a Conservative party, and that they were forming a new Conservative party and none, zero, nada, nicht nein of the existing MP's will be allowed to join the New Conservative party.
Most Tory voters would vote for them.
They are, after all, like baby ducklings on tik tok following their mother.
The New Conservatives can align with Farage's Reform on the condition Tice resigns and Gerard Batten takes over.
Then we can prevent the lib lab con green snp uni-parties from taking seats in parliament and change British politics forever. A new national Consevative And Unionist Party, re-uniting the four nations and extending an invitation to Southern Ireland to join hands would align with Batten's Reform party. Success.
Let us pray God's will. Hitch you don't have to.
If every single one of us joined a political party, it doesn't matter which one, we could deselect the sitting MP and instal someone of our choosing all we need is numbers to overwhelm the current list of members, all this is perfectly legal and the only way to purge parliament of the careerist scum in the House of commons
@strake750 I tried that after the referendum. They kicked me out of the tory party for a Facebook post. Tory party central office have it wrapped up.
@@mrwhitestone7461
You could do it in any party all we need is numbers !
@strake750 On the USA example. Trump got the base. Tory voters? Would they be similar. Maybe. The problem for Trump is the Rino's, but even so, it probably would be easier to take over the conservatives and kick out the Cinos.
Accurately define what a “Conservative” is, before you decide which bureaucrat might cater to your self-interests.
Peter threw that lure out there, but none of fishies nibbled.
As prophetic a man as Enoch Powell.
Harrison, you could’ve turned up the heat another notch but, good job in pestering an backing Hopeless Hitchens up
57 minutes to be told,”you’re all doomed!”
Tories out.
Labour in.
Empty the Southern hemispheres slowly whilst sending the youth off to fight in War…
That’s their plan anyway, cause they don’t have any other ideas.
exactly
@@holzmann- Shall we cock it all up for fun instead?
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Hitchens is the best mumble rapper of all time.
Oh gawd! Yes, the mumbling, whistling and jumbled incessant crosstalk made this quite difficult to listen to.
Sit at the feet of an old sage, and shut the h*ll up.
I was born in Yugoslavia. If you ask me, we had a lot of fun. But we had open borders. Regularly shopping in Italy or Austria. We earned less, but we had plenty of time to make money on the side.
Vote Reform Uk!
In a better world he would be the prime minister
People would still ignore his truths.
Folks, there's a big difference between the drugs that befuddle the mind and tobacco. Of course, smoking isn't good for your health, but you can still function and raise a family. Try using heroin and that drug not destroying your character.
heroin is a drug? really? its not. people like you are part of the problem. learn to differentiate between poison and drugs.
Bargain your way into docility…
Speaking as someone born and raised in the poverty stricken North East, nope. There is zero opportunity.
Hitchens is very entertaining as ever, but I wonder if anyone can elaborate on his, to me bizarre, claim that neither Thatcher or Reagan was a conservative? What were they then ?
Neo Liberals or Capitalist.
Conservatism - the type that Peter misses - is really a reverence for tradition and institutions worth keeping and propagating. That and Reaganomics were not particularly dovetailed. Reagan and by proxy Thatcher were both quite stark economic reformists, and made sweeping extreme moves and measures to the status quo of the time. Thatcher most saliently, actually. Her effect is felt still today.. council house eradication and property ownership being one. Yes they were overall ‘of the right’ but Thatcher was no Tory, really. It’s a conflation of the Left or those just not informed to think so. They put her as the paragon of ‘Evil Tory’. She was certainly not conservative.. as was said.. neo-liberal definitely, a quite radical one too. Her economic policies were blueprinted from the US and transposed over here. Where some of them worked to begin with, they couldn’t consistently sustain here in the U.K. like they could in the US.. which is much bigger, a much larger home market, it just works better and still does now. We had to find our niche which became financial services through the late 80s and 90s.
A big part of it is Hitchens is a communist.
Economic and social liberals.
Classical liberals.
I live in Japan, and was glad to escape the nonsense that comes along with having a significant amount of your population as drugees when I came here. Being anti-drugs is very ingrained in the population here and I think they're going to hold out. I really hope they. The lack of anti-social behaviour and other crimes that are increasingly common in the West are really noticeable. There are other reasons too, of course, but I do think the lack of readily available drugs helps keep this country (and of course it's not without it's faults) a socially respectable place.
Stoners (such as who I used to be) always go on about Japan's history with weed (weirdly talking about hemp products rather than the drug they're trying to legalize), but in my reading of Japanese culture, I think amphetamines and the like would be more popular here
A very moral viewpoint on drugs that I find very interesting and quite unique in this day and age. I can't bring myself to agree with him though unfortunately.
Act like an expat in your own country. Don’t vote, don’t antagonize the power structure, don’t avoid taxes or break the law.
Relax, focus on your career, family and community. Don’t engage with the power structure.
“There no such thing as addiction” right Peter 😅
It's grim for them. I feel sad how we've let them down.
Vote reform
Good vid
Maybe we will now😢
There's this large community that wants to legalize all drugs but do you notice that no one wants to live in a community riddled with drug users? Odd!
all drugs? no.
weed? yes.
weed heads don't want the hassle of dealing with coked-up drunk crack-heads!!! stoners are a peaceful bunch that just wanna relax at home and not worry about being knifed by a heroin addict!
I didn’t quite catch what was referred to at about 53:05…”British ……………” British what?
Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks in anticipation.