Thanks! This IBIS stuff is more important for the video guys. I like a good lens and am returning to photography after a 10-year absence. Lots have changed. I am very tempted to get 24-70 GM ii, but SIgma looks fantastic and is twice as cheap (1700 GBP VS 900 GBP). My thoughts are to get Sigma and SONY 20mm 1.8, heard it's incredible. But there is always that thought and we forget, that it's not lenses taking pictures, it's people.
From my point of view as a wedding photographer, sony lenses are the best for the sony system. I have problems with third party lenses when i use auto white balance, usually the color of the skin is affected...
Best comparison I have seen so far! Thank you. I have got the Sony 16-55 G before the Sigma was released and still love it. It’s that good I almost don’t feel the need to move to full frame. On the photo side I like the extra reach over the Sigma which brings it close to a 85mm full frame equivalent and I guess it is a bit wider,too. But otherwise I fully agree with your conclusion! 👍
Nowadays I think the major 3rd party manufacturers do a good job, good enough for most applications, often you can save some weight/size and usually money. Now, a reason that I see specifically for genuine would be for the new Sony cameras that have breathing compensation (need Sony lenses for that to work), and if that is something you are concerned with (are you using your camera/lenses mostly for video). I have used lots of Sony, Sigma, and Tamron lenses over the years with Sony A6400, A6500, A7III, A7IIIRA, A7C, A9, A7RIV, and A74 and have found great lenses for certain use cases but never (yet!) found the perfect lens for all cases (or at least all cases with that needed that FOV). I have the Sony 200-600mm G OSS, worked great for the A74 and A9, not worth much (AF issues) with the A7iiiR and A7RIV (though I know others haven't had issues). I like Sony for the choices (full frame or APS-C) - you have choices between budget, size, weight, manufacturer origin, warranty length etc. Not a lot of bad options here . . . . we have lots of choices!
WOW, that's exactly the comparison I was looking for. I bought the Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 because it's a) made in Japan b) cheaper. But I noticed that Sigma (at least my copy) has rather strong chromatic aberrations (or fringing?) even in the middle of the frame when I photograph light objects in daylight at f/2.8. Like, let's say white flowers or someone in white clothing. It goes away as I close diaphragm. Also, I'm not really crazy about sharpness at 2.8. IDK what I expected. I just moved from Nikon to Sony and it's basically my first mirrorless camera maybe there are other factors that come into play here. Maybe I should get the Sony and compare them personally.
You always seem to pop up whenever I have a camera question, lol. I hit the subscribe button. BTW... the Sigma seems to be giving better colors compared to the Sony lens.
I think the reason the Sony looke like it has better IS was the extra 200 grams of weight. The heavier the setup, the more kinetic energy it takes to move the object. If the sigma + FX30 had extra 200 grams to match the weight of the 16-55 + FX30, the results could've been more similar
I always try and go native, but when the price difference is $500+ between a Sigma Vs Sony, I don’t think it justifies the small gain. For example, because if image stabilization was a huge component I’d just buy a Gimbal or some sort of attachment. As always though, it all comes down to wants and needs. Haha Keep the great videos coming!
@@KenseiAkatsu thank you ❤️ for replying, I’ve one last question, I just started doing music videos, my budget was until fx30, I wouldn’t had the budget for fx3, so I’m learning how to work with lights and proper lighting for my scenes. My question is sometimes I think if my image quality is on a level with a full frame camera, so do you think that fx30 with sigma18-50 is something serious or should I get a full frame?
Hi! I just received my FX30, it’s crazy, but I do not know what goal to take. As a first lens and for short films and travels, do I need a zoom (as I usually do) or 1/2 fixed focal lengths with a larger aperture) Then, the manual focus of the sigma seems too small and too close to the camera, is it annoying with a gimbal and for the video? Today, I can have the sony 16-55 at 644€ or the sigma 18-50 at 184€ (yes it’s huge I have the contacts haha) What do you recommend? Thanks for the video!
to be honest if youre using it for video, youre going to be using AF anyways. just get a zoom, especially for travels swapping primes feels like ass. get zooms that cover a wide range and f2.8 of course.
@@KenseiAkatsu Sigma is coming out with an updated 24-70 that will be lighter. I've been wanting a 24-70 but the new Sony is too expensive for me (not a pro) and the old 24-70 (both Sony and Sigma) is a bit heavy for walking around. The new one should be lighter and more affordable than the GM II. Yay.
If you already own a sigma 16mm f1.4 which is an excellent wide angle fast lens for low light and indoors. The f2.8 16mm of the sony isn't a deal breaker compare to the sigma 18mm especially when it's nearly double the price. You can buy the 18-50 sigma + 16mm f1.4 + 56mm f1.4 for the same price of just one 16-55mm sony
Besides my Sony GM Lenses, I have Zeiss Lenses and Voigtländer APO-Lanthar Lenses, I only want the very best prime Lenses you can get. I do not like Sigma lenses...
This is a great comparison, but I have to say I take issue with the use of the word "genuine". This word is thrown around throughout the video but is misused. Sigma lenses are genuine Sigma. Tamron lenses are genuine Tamron. None of these are knockoffs trying to pass for something they are not. Third party manufacturers are not stamping a Sony logo on their lenses. They are real, genuine brands. Referring to Sony as the sole genuine lens manufacturer devalues the other, equally genuine brands. This has nothing to do with price and quality.
Good job finally another person who points the ibis aspect out even for apsc.
Thanks! This IBIS stuff is more important for the video guys. I like a good lens and am returning to photography after a 10-year absence. Lots have changed. I am very tempted to get 24-70 GM ii, but SIgma looks fantastic and is twice as cheap (1700 GBP VS 900 GBP). My thoughts are to get Sigma and SONY 20mm 1.8, heard it's incredible. But there is always that thought and we forget, that it's not lenses taking pictures, it's people.
From my point of view as a wedding photographer, sony lenses are the best for the sony system. I have problems with third party lenses when i use auto white balance, usually the color of the skin is affected...
Best comparison I have seen so far! Thank you. I have got the Sony 16-55 G before the Sigma was released and still love it. It’s that good I almost don’t feel the need to move to full frame. On the photo side I like the extra reach over the Sigma which brings it close to a 85mm full frame equivalent and I guess it is a bit wider,too. But otherwise I fully agree with your conclusion! 👍
Nowadays I think the major 3rd party manufacturers do a good job, good enough for most applications, often you can save some weight/size and usually money. Now, a reason that I see specifically for genuine would be for the new Sony cameras that have breathing compensation (need Sony lenses for that to work), and if that is something you are concerned with (are you using your camera/lenses mostly for video). I have used lots of Sony, Sigma, and Tamron lenses over the years with Sony A6400, A6500, A7III, A7IIIRA, A7C, A9, A7RIV, and A74 and have found great lenses for certain use cases but never (yet!) found the perfect lens for all cases (or at least all cases with that needed that FOV). I have the Sony 200-600mm G OSS, worked great for the A74 and A9, not worth much (AF issues) with the A7iiiR and A7RIV (though I know others haven't had issues). I like Sony for the choices (full frame or APS-C) - you have choices between budget, size, weight, manufacturer origin, warranty length etc. Not a lot of bad options here . . . . we have lots of choices!
That's true!
As a videographer, I usually shoot handheld. and i really like the confidence that sony lenses afford me with the active stabilization option.
I'm waiting for your review on A6700, And if you can compare it with R8.
WOW, that's exactly the comparison I was looking for. I bought the Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 because it's a) made in Japan b) cheaper. But I noticed that Sigma (at least my copy) has rather strong chromatic aberrations (or fringing?) even in the middle of the frame when I photograph light objects in daylight at f/2.8. Like, let's say white flowers or someone in white clothing. It goes away as I close diaphragm. Also, I'm not really crazy about sharpness at 2.8. IDK what I expected. I just moved from Nikon to Sony and it's basically my first mirrorless camera maybe there are other factors that come into play here. Maybe I should get the Sony and compare them personally.
You always seem to pop up whenever I have a camera question, lol. I hit the subscribe button. BTW... the Sigma seems to be giving better colors compared to the Sony lens.
I use a mix of Sony GM and Sigma lenses. TBH, I dont consider any others except Tamron in specialized cases.
Good strategy!
En que casos tamron?
I think the reason the Sony looke like it has better IS was the extra 200 grams of weight. The heavier the setup, the more kinetic energy it takes to move the object. If the sigma + FX30 had extra 200 grams to match the weight of the 16-55 + FX30, the results could've been more similar
Oh, I didn't expect that one was coming lol
But it sounds about right! I will consider it when I make this kind of video next time! Thank you!!
you are right, i can't think of a reason why lenses would affect stabilization if they don't have OSS
have you tried tamron 35-150f2-2.8 and 28-75f2.8, 70-180f2.8 ? i wanna know your opinion about them compared to fe24-105f4
Which do you go for??
Sigma. All-rounder for a great price.
Thank you for your honesty. Great content as usual.
I always try and go native, but when the price difference is $500+ between a Sigma Vs Sony, I don’t think it justifies the small gain. For example, because if image stabilization was a huge component I’d just buy a Gimbal or some sort of attachment. As always though, it all comes down to wants and needs. Haha Keep the great videos coming!
4:40 switch the lenses names side
Love frOm Nepal bro ❤
Hello from Canada 🇨🇦, how do yoy compare the image quality of fx30+sigma18-50 vs fx3 with g master 24-70
Thank you for watching!
That's interesting!
There won't be a big difference in a day time, but FX3 with gm will be better in a low light situation.
@@KenseiAkatsu thank you ❤️ for replying, I’ve one last question, I just started doing music videos, my budget was until fx30, I wouldn’t had the budget for fx3, so I’m learning how to work with lights and proper lighting for my scenes. My question is sometimes I think if my image quality is on a level with a full frame camera, so do you think that fx30 with sigma18-50 is something serious or should I get a full frame?
My main camera is fx30 too
Great!!!
Hi! I just received my FX30, it’s crazy, but I do not know what goal to take.
As a first lens and for short films and travels, do I need a zoom (as I usually do) or 1/2 fixed focal lengths with a larger aperture)
Then, the manual focus of the sigma seems too small and too close to the camera, is it annoying with a gimbal and for the video?
Today, I can have the sony 16-55 at 644€ or the sigma 18-50 at 184€ (yes it’s huge I have the contacts haha)
What do you recommend?
Thanks for the video!
to be honest if youre using it for video, youre going to be using AF anyways. just get a zoom, especially for travels swapping primes feels like ass. get zooms that cover a wide range and f2.8 of course.
So, if I want better stabilization, I should put a GM lens with ibis switch, right? What about the new release sony GMii lens..
Does the sony lens you used for the stabilization test have a stabilization switch? Is that GM lens?
It is G lens, and doesn't have IBIS switch.
@@KenseiAkatsu So, if I want better stabilization, I should put a GM lens with ibis switch, right?
@@KenseiAkatsu please give me a reply
hi, tell me what would be better for better stabilization tamron 17-70 2.8 or sony 16-55 2.8? Very smooth best stabilization for ronin rs is important
been having this dilemma for 2 weeks 24-70 sigma vs gmii 😂(i think deciding factor for most is budget)
Go for sigma!!
@@KenseiAkatsu Sigma is coming out with an updated 24-70 that will be lighter. I've been wanting a 24-70 but the new Sony is too expensive for me (not a pro) and the old 24-70 (both Sony and Sigma) is a bit heavy for walking around. The new one should be lighter and more affordable than the GM II. Yay.
the sony 16-55 good for youtube videos and streming too ?
have you tried ZVE1
Not yet, but I will soon!!!
I would get the Sigma and save the extra cash. Quality wise they almost indistinguishable.
That's what I recommend most!!
You missed the main difference. 16mm vs 18mm. Reason I went with sony. 18mm is just not wide enough.
If you already own a sigma 16mm f1.4 which is an excellent wide angle fast lens for low light and indoors. The f2.8 16mm of the sony isn't a deal breaker compare to the sigma 18mm especially when it's nearly double the price. You can buy the 18-50 sigma + 16mm f1.4 + 56mm f1.4 for the same price of just one 16-55mm sony
Genuine if you have the money.
Commented before seeing the video.lets see.
Thank you for coming back!!
I got Sony GM's and Sigma DG DN. The Sigma is built like a tank.
true
Besides my Sony GM Lenses, I have Zeiss Lenses and Voigtländer APO-Lanthar Lenses, I only want the very best prime Lenses you can get. I do not like Sigma lenses...
Why did the Sony have crushed Blacks?
This is a great comparison, but I have to say I take issue with the use of the word "genuine". This word is thrown around throughout the video but is misused. Sigma lenses are genuine Sigma. Tamron lenses are genuine Tamron. None of these are knockoffs trying to pass for something they are not. Third party manufacturers are not stamping a Sony logo on their lenses. They are real, genuine brands. Referring to Sony as the sole genuine lens manufacturer devalues the other, equally genuine brands. This has nothing to do with price and quality.
Thank you for pointing out!!