Thanks for this,I’ve been carrying one daily and this never occurred to me.Another petit beaurocratic law removing our freedom. As an honest and decent hard working person I really am beginning to truly hate this country.
Some of the fear the media likes to push about how evil knives are is really not helpful. Can't imagine there are many people in city centres stabbing each other with a Leatherman!
@@chrismoutdoors I know,nothing makes sense.I’ve seen videos of ‘Incomers’ openly carrying machetes,iron bars and baseball bats in front of police and the police ignoring them!
What you said is a fact and a sad one at that. I've lived in the UK for 6 years now and while it is mostly a good place to be at, them knife laws are in fact RIDICULOUS
It’s a shame really, as I think they’d have a good market here for a UK legal EDC multitool. Of course it’s also a shame that a locking Leatherman is considered an offensive weapon by the government, but that’s another conversation…
Your analysis of the Letherman Bond's folding knife is commendable, and as you say, having the blade opening outwards, as with many other Leatherman's would avoid any issue. However, the blade clearly comes within the definition detailed at s.139 CJA 1988, and it is highly unlikely that you would be prosecuted for carrying this in the UK, unless you were committing some other offence such as threatening someone with it. In that case you'd be arrested for sure. The prosecution have to apply a 2-stage test before deciding to prosecute. Firstly, they'd need to assess whether there was a realistic prospect of conviction, and secondly they'd decide whether it was in the public interest to prosecute. Whilst knives are public enemy number 1 in the UK, I'm not convinced that either stage of that test would be met, particulary when factoring in the cost to bring the matter to court. Nevertheless, as you say, positioning the blade so it opens outwards would be the best thing that Leatherman could do to remove any possibility of an issue arising.
I appreciate your perspective on it. I think these things would be easier if the law was clearer, and I can’t help that the more caveats and amendments they add to the legislation, the more complex it becomes. Thankfully the majority of our police have common sense and are reasonable. It’s just whether we’d be willing to risk the huge expense and potential dreadful consequences of the wrong ones wanting to make an example of someone. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
“The exception to these 2 rules are folding pocketknives that: - have a cutting edge no longer than 3 inches - are not lock knives (they do not have a button, spring or catch that you have to use to fold the knife)” The Bond does not have a cutting edge longer than 3 inches. The Bond is not a lock knife, and does not have a button, spring or catch that you have to use to fold the knife. The Bond is legal to carry :)
@@chrismoutdoorsdepends where you are at, some US cities are worse than the UK. Chicago for instance is similar to the UK but with 2.5 inch limit. But, in the US you can get any weapons laws overturned if you have enough money to get the case to the US Supreme Court and like 10 years to wait.
@@scottburns5242 I have an enhanced concealed carry license that is good in right about 40 states I believe. That’s for guns or knives. I’m in Idaho so it’s pretty well fair game here anyway. I’m probably not going to any larger cities if I can help it.
Have you seen the other thing about the 3" being blade length and not edge length? It worth checking as a few UK legal are now not legal due to this recent changes.
I believe there is some discussion around whether CPS measure 'cutting edge' on a knife, or the length from the top of the handle to the tip of the knife. The law specifically says 'cutting edge' when it comes to folding knives, but I don't think I'd want to be the one to go to court to find out what a judge decides that day.
@@paulotoole4950Yeah, this one was tested court quite a few years ago and you’re right. It’s absolutely the full length of the blade, not just the cutting edge even though that’s how the legislation phrases it. I’m often amazed that some people are totally unwilling to accept that. Even someone like Heinnie Haynes, who I think of as a pretty reasonable retailer, will often have knives in their UK Legal section but when you look at the spec they show it as over 3 inch.
It might not be, i dont know. However, ive never been stopped and searched in my life, apart from airports. I also live in a rural area. I think its folk in cities that need to worry about it. I suppose thats most people, but whenever im in a city, i dont really need my tools.
With the handle open, the ergonomic design allows your fingers to fit snuggly with one under the finger choile and the rest wrapped around the handle fitting into the cut out for more comfort.
I'll give an example of how I'd use my illegal Leatherman Charge with its locking blade. If I was carrying it on my belt and walking around town with no reason for having it and was pulled by a policeman, I'd have no reason to complain about having it confiscated and being arrested. I know the law and that's just how it is. If I was using it on a job in a working environment, and a policeman pulled me up on it, I'd be quite confident of explaining this to a judge if the policeman was a jobsworth not willing to use his common sense or discretion. I have a Victorinox Explorer, which is UK legal, but if I'm found with it in my pocket in a pub, as far as I understand I could still end up in trouble for taking it there. Another factor they take into account, is where you have the knife. So if my bag was searched while walking about town and the Leatherman was found inside, I'd be more likely to be let off than having it on me. The fact that it's not readily available has some bearing, I believe. A policeman can tell the difference between a sensible person using it as a tool and a wanna be gangster snot nosed kid having one with no reasonable explanation. I have a small blade on me always, and am quite safe even in a pub since it's the Leatherman Micra, on my house key keyring.
I think you’re completely correct and it’s something I’ve commented on on other videos reviewing it as UK legal. I think part of the legislation uses the phrase ‘immediately foldable at all times’ which the Bond clearly isn’t. I’ve seen reviews where they talk about it not being able to close fully as a positive safety feature (which it is) without realising that could means it’s not a folding knife. I think probably because it doesn’t have a liner or back lock which I knife enthusiast might consider necessary to make it a locking knife.
I find it most concerning that most UK retailers of the tool also claim it’s UK legal, which wouldn’t be a defence for someone found in possession of it and it could land people in trouble.
@@chrismoutdoors Yup. I’ve just replied to another comment talking about retailers getting it wrong on blade length. Just checked and Heinnie Haynes are still listing this as UK Friendly.
Very interesting video. I stared off ECD'ing a SOG Paratool over 30 years ago. One of the issues I found with the Paratool was the tendency for the screwdriver blades to fold up part way when exerting pressure, and that could pinch your flesh. I switched to the Leatherman Wave when they came out. That was a much better design, but I became concerned about the implications of the locking blades...(even though I work with the Police on occasions and they have always been fine with me using a Leatherman Wave in front of them)... so I went back to using Paratools for EDC.. I currently have 4 Paratools and due to their design, I have removed the cutting blades on a couple and replaced them with different bits to make them legal. I have Leathermans attached to bags for various outdoor pursuits. Others around my house and work place, so I can usually find one with ease.
Totally agree and you would not be able to defend this as a true folding UK legal blade if stopped for any reason and found to be in possession in a public place without good reason to carry. Going to and from your place of recreation (if on private property and not stopping anywhere en route) or your place of work, where you have a defence in law to use such a tool, might be ok, but for EDC in this sad and tragic country where so many total idiots think knives are for stabbing other people, you would probably be on the wrong side of the law. I have an original leatherman from many years ago, with non locking tools which I used to wear on my belt every day. Working in theatres on the crew and other similar work, it got used every single day and was so useful.....now, I never risk it. I now carry several small tools that do similar tasks and have either a SAK or very small non locking pocket knife instead. Annoying as hell, but it's so difficult to justify carrying anything else without risking breaking the law. What a tragic mess we are in as a country when we have reached this stage due to out of control knife crime on our streets. Also, everyone must be aware that leaving such an item in your car while out and about, still constitutes a public place in the eyes of the law. So, if carrying a bushcraft fixed blade knife or any bladed items that do not comply with the legal definition of UK legal carry, could end up in a prosecution should you then be involved in any situation where the police need to attend and they discover what you have on board. Imagine just being in a carpark and having a bump with another car. The other owner or you are in dispute and the police attend. They decide to ask you if you have any bladed items in the car and carry out a search, to discover your knives and axes....it gets to be a long slow day very quickly!
It's why I always err on the side of caution with knives, and even my daily carries I make sure are well under 3" and not right at the limit. Only takes one person to ruin your day, as you said. Such a shame that honest folks have to worry about this stuff, when it's a small minority causing issues with items which they don't care about being illegal in the first place. As far as I can recall, stabbing people and has been illegal for a long time!
I’d say if you used that Leatherman every day for your work then it should be fine to use under UK law. Plenty of otherwise illegal knives become absolutely fine when used for work. A normal Stanley knife is not UK legal but are on every job site in the country without issue. You’d probably want to take it off your belt when travelling to and from work but other than that, should be fine. I can understand why you might want to ere on the side of caution though.
@@philipknowles1 Thanks for the comment. Yes, I agree and at the time I was heavily engaged in theatre work, I never really worried about it and of course for many, many years, happily wore it to and from work and everywhere in between without any issues. Now, I don't work in that environment any more and have no real justification to carry it on my person each day. I do still use it a lot and certainly when going to and from anywhere away from home when I might need it, it goes in a container at the bottom of my back pack or shoulder bag. I also have a number of lock knives, one of which is in my tool box. No problem as you say, if there is 'good reason', but I never stop off to buy the pint of milk anymore if it's in the car. Unbelievably tragic, but sadly the reality of broken Britain and the raging knife crime we see. It's never worth the risk.
I have the Gerber ledgend. That's got the locking blade so I don't use it for EDC. I found a Wilco one, which is UK legal. It's not the same quality, but I always have a Swiss champ as well.
I suspect different people will give a different answer. My answer is that the media create a storm of outrage when someone is killed and blame the knife, rather than the person using it illegally. The government then bans a type of knife to make it look like they're doing something, as it's way cheaper than investing in the criminal justice system.
Unfortunately the spirit of the law has been dropped for the letter of the law. This helps the police reduce the unsolved crimes in the statistics, because you will be arrested and convicted in most instance. It's not about removing weapons from the streets. The data from assault with a blade has shown its predominantly a kitchen knife. Cheap and readily available
I’ve seen people go back and forth on this for ages so I simply messaged 101 non emergency police number and they replied that it’s perfectly legal to carry, feel free to do the same
I know you meant that as a joke, but I think that actually is why they called it the Bond. It's aimed at the UK market, and it was a reference to James Bond.
I am aware of people being prosecuted for possession of a bladed article for carrying a Leatherman… funny how many coppers you see with them on their belts. I agree completely with the blade folding from the outside idea. However, in combination with the other ridiculous part of the legislation; having a non locking folding blade (I’m sure has and will cause far more injuries than locking) it would mean Leatherman investing development and manufacture of a donkey only wanted by a handful of people… I’d be surprised if they took the step.
I guess we all have to weigh up our priorities - there are good things about the country as well, but this is one of the things that is a bit frustrating.
@@Yorkshireoutoorsandsurvivalif they are locking blades, or the handles stop them closing, then they are illegal for everyday carry. They aren’t illegal to own, but they are illegal to carry without good reason (and good reason has to stand up in court)
Why did UK parliament and police suddenly get filled with bellends? I get that knife crime is an issue but that is literally what the police are there for. A crook will still get a knife when he wants to.
I think it's a mixture of media hysteria over their current pet peeve (sharp objects of any kind), and then the government think it's easier to just ban types of knife rather than invest money in policing and social services. A shame.
The law says "readily folded" and pretends that a safety catch is somehow turning a folding knife into a fixed blade, the law is essentially a lie, and is fundamentally unlawful.
I was watching another video were the guy had a smaller multi tool in the same style as the bond just a cheap one but he mentioned that a police officer said the legality of it was questionable due to what you are saying so yeah I’d be carefull
That’s a locking blade therefore it falls outside the folding pocket knife exemption of a non locking knife less than three inches. You would have to show on the balance of probabilities good cause or reasonable excuse to possess in public
Leatherman market the Bond as UK legal for every day carry, which I think is not all that ethical as I agree that closing the handle turns it in essence into a locking knife.
All multi tools would be this way if they are slip joint , but it's a tool kit , only sadly you have lost the point , and high lighted a point for some one to to change a law , it's a tool kit in your pocket not a knife in the true sense
The Squirt would be, as would all of the Juice series. All of which are discontinued unfortunately. Oh yes and the Knifeless Rebar although actually even that's a bit of a grey area too as it has sharp tools (reamer, scissors, even saw) which do lock.
So sad that you guys are so used to being regulated so much that these ridiculous knife laws are reasonable to you, yes this is coming from someone who carries a firearm everyday so there’s that, njoy colonial rule mates 😂
No sir I think it’s absolutely ridiculous,however the corrupt police work for the corrupt government and will arrest you for such a petit infringement of the ridiculous law which could land you with possible prison sentence. This is where the uk is right now. Having said all that most people DO cheerfully accept their enslavement.
Correct! However it doesn’t work that way with the Bond, as the handle impedes the closure of the knife which does not fit within the UK definition of a folding knife.
Thanks for this,I’ve been carrying one daily and this never occurred to me.Another petit beaurocratic law removing our freedom.
As an honest and decent hard working person I really am beginning to truly hate this country.
Some of the fear the media likes to push about how evil knives are is really not helpful. Can't imagine there are many people in city centres stabbing each other with a Leatherman!
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I know,nothing makes sense.I’ve seen videos of ‘Incomers’ openly carrying machetes,iron bars and baseball bats in front of police and the police ignoring them!
What you said is a fact and a sad one at that. I've lived in the UK for 6 years now and while it is mostly a good place to be at, them knife laws are in fact RIDICULOUS
UK is completely lost! Leatherman doesn't care mate!
It’s a shame really, as I think they’d have a good market here for a UK legal EDC multitool. Of course it’s also a shame that a locking Leatherman is considered an offensive weapon by the government, but that’s another conversation…
Yes uk is lost.2020 sealed it ➡️ 😷😷😷😷😷
@@chrismoutdoors thanks for the multi-tool informational video. Informational videos distract me from my physical pain. I got injured 2 months ago.
@@unitedstatesirie7431you’re welcome. Sorry to hear you got injured, I hope you recover soon 🙏
Your analysis of the Letherman Bond's folding knife is commendable, and as you say, having the blade opening outwards, as with many other Leatherman's would avoid any issue. However, the blade clearly comes within the definition detailed at s.139 CJA 1988, and it is highly unlikely that you would be prosecuted for carrying this in the UK, unless you were committing some other offence such as threatening someone with it. In that case you'd be arrested for sure. The prosecution have to apply a 2-stage test before deciding to prosecute. Firstly, they'd need to assess whether there was a realistic prospect of conviction, and secondly they'd decide whether it was in the public interest to prosecute. Whilst knives are public enemy number 1 in the UK, I'm not convinced that either stage of that test would be met, particulary when factoring in the cost to bring the matter to court. Nevertheless, as you say, positioning the blade so it opens outwards would be the best thing that Leatherman could do to remove any possibility of an issue arising.
I appreciate your perspective on it. I think these things would be easier if the law was clearer, and I can’t help that the more caveats and amendments they add to the legislation, the more complex it becomes.
Thankfully the majority of our police have common sense and are reasonable. It’s just whether we’d be willing to risk the huge expense and potential dreadful consequences of the wrong ones wanting to make an example of someone.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
“The exception to these 2 rules are folding pocketknives that:
- have a cutting edge no longer than 3 inches
- are not lock knives (they do not have a button, spring or catch that you have to use to fold the knife)”
The Bond does not have a cutting edge longer than 3 inches.
The Bond is not a lock knife, and does not have a button, spring or catch that you have to use to fold the knife. The Bond is legal to carry :)
Finally someone with some sense
Glad I’m in America. That sure seems nit picky over there. I can pack a chain saw around if I want to.
You do seem to have more sensible knife laws there, that’s for sure.
@@chrismoutdoorsdepends where you are at, some US cities are worse than the UK. Chicago for instance is similar to the UK but with 2.5 inch limit. But, in the US you can get any weapons laws overturned if you have enough money to get the case to the US Supreme Court and like 10 years to wait.
@@scottburns5242 I have an enhanced concealed carry license that is good in right about 40 states I believe. That’s for guns or knives. I’m in Idaho so it’s pretty well fair game here anyway. I’m probably not going to any larger cities if I can help it.
Basically anywhere is better than UK.
An unarmed uk style sheeple population who think they should be unarmed is the goal of the Democrats in Washington.
Have you seen the other thing about the 3" being blade length and not edge length? It worth checking as a few UK legal are now not legal due to this recent changes.
I believe there is some discussion around whether CPS measure 'cutting edge' on a knife, or the length from the top of the handle to the tip of the knife. The law specifically says 'cutting edge' when it comes to folding knives, but I don't think I'd want to be the one to go to court to find out what a judge decides that day.
@@chrismoutdoors I believe a Judge has said it length of blade.
@@paulotoole4950Yeah, this one was tested court quite a few years ago and you’re right. It’s absolutely the full length of the blade, not just the cutting edge even though that’s how the legislation phrases it. I’m often amazed that some people are totally unwilling to accept that. Even someone like Heinnie Haynes, who I think of as a pretty reasonable retailer, will often have knives in their UK Legal section but when you look at the spec they show it as over 3 inch.
I think you are correct that's why I carry a Leatherman EDC Rebar Multi-Tool which doesn't have a blade at all.
Knifeless rebar (there are two versions).
The saw is considered a locking blade do still illegal to carry
It might not be, i dont know. However, ive never been stopped and searched in my life, apart from airports. I also live in a rural area. I think its folk in cities that need to worry about it. I suppose thats most people, but whenever im in a city, i dont really need my tools.
Good point, actually never thought of that.
do most models not work like that?
They do, although most models also have a lock. Either way, it presents a real problem for people in the UK who want to EDC this style of tool.
@@chrismoutdoors i have an old unbranded model that works like that with no locks and a trespass one too
With the handle open, the ergonomic design allows your fingers to fit snuggly with one under the finger choile and the rest wrapped around the handle fitting into the cut out for more comfort.
I'll give an example of how I'd use my illegal Leatherman Charge with its locking blade.
If I was carrying it on my belt and walking around town with no reason for having it and was pulled by a policeman, I'd have no reason to complain about having it confiscated and being arrested. I know the law and that's just how it is.
If I was using it on a job in a working environment, and a policeman pulled me up on it, I'd be quite confident of explaining this to a judge if the policeman was a jobsworth not willing to use his common sense or discretion.
I have a Victorinox Explorer, which is UK legal, but if I'm found with it in my pocket in a pub, as far as I understand I could still end up in trouble for taking it there.
Another factor they take into account, is where you have the knife. So if my bag was searched while walking about town and the Leatherman was found inside, I'd be more likely to be let off than having it on me. The fact that it's not readily available has some bearing, I believe.
A policeman can tell the difference between a sensible person using it as a tool and a wanna be gangster snot nosed kid having one with no reasonable explanation.
I have a small blade on me always, and am quite safe even in a pub since it's the Leatherman Micra, on my house key keyring.
Did it fold or nah?
I think you’re completely correct and it’s something I’ve commented on on other videos reviewing it as UK legal. I think part of the legislation uses the phrase ‘immediately foldable at all times’ which the Bond clearly isn’t. I’ve seen reviews where they talk about it not being able to close fully as a positive safety feature (which it is) without realising that could means it’s not a folding knife. I think probably because it doesn’t have a liner or back lock which I knife enthusiast might consider necessary to make it a locking knife.
I find it most concerning that most UK retailers of the tool also claim it’s UK legal, which wouldn’t be a defence for someone found in possession of it and it could land people in trouble.
@@chrismoutdoors Yup. I’ve just replied to another comment talking about retailers getting it wrong on blade length. Just checked and Heinnie Haynes are still listing this as UK Friendly.
Very interesting video. I stared off ECD'ing a SOG Paratool over 30 years ago. One of the issues I found with the Paratool was the tendency for the screwdriver blades to fold up part way when exerting pressure, and that could pinch your flesh. I switched to the Leatherman Wave when they came out. That was a much better design, but I became concerned about the implications of the locking blades...(even though I work with the Police on occasions and they have always been fine with me using a Leatherman Wave in front of them)... so I went back to using Paratools for EDC.. I currently have 4 Paratools and due to their design, I have removed the cutting blades on a couple and replaced them with different bits to make them legal. I have Leathermans attached to bags for various outdoor pursuits. Others around my house and work place, so I can usually find one with ease.
Thanks for watching and commenting. They're such useful tools, it's a shame that it's something we need to worry about.
I’m with you, Bond is probably UK illegal
Where I work in the UK we have plastic knives and forks in the canteen, for health and safety reasons.
Can never be too careful...
I recently came to the same conclusion about my Leatherman Micra.
Totally agree and you would not be able to defend this as a true folding UK legal blade if stopped for any reason and found to be in possession in a public place without good reason to carry. Going to and from your place of recreation (if on private property and not stopping anywhere en route) or your place of work, where you have a defence in law to use such a tool, might be ok, but for EDC in this sad and tragic country where so many total idiots think knives are for stabbing other people, you would probably be on the wrong side of the law. I have an original leatherman from many years ago, with non locking tools which I used to wear on my belt every day. Working in theatres on the crew and other similar work, it got used every single day and was so useful.....now, I never risk it. I now carry several small tools that do similar tasks and have either a SAK or very small non locking pocket knife instead. Annoying as hell, but it's so difficult to justify carrying anything else without risking breaking the law.
What a tragic mess we are in as a country when we have reached this stage due to out of control knife crime on our streets.
Also, everyone must be aware that leaving such an item in your car while out and about, still constitutes a public place in the eyes of the law. So, if carrying a bushcraft fixed blade knife or any bladed items that do not comply with the legal definition of UK legal carry, could end up in a prosecution should you then be involved in any situation where the police need to attend and they discover what you have on board. Imagine just being in a carpark and having a bump with another car. The other owner or you are in dispute and the police attend. They decide to ask you if you have any bladed items in the car and carry out a search, to discover your knives and axes....it gets to be a long slow day very quickly!
It's why I always err on the side of caution with knives, and even my daily carries I make sure are well under 3" and not right at the limit. Only takes one person to ruin your day, as you said.
Such a shame that honest folks have to worry about this stuff, when it's a small minority causing issues with items which they don't care about being illegal in the first place. As far as I can recall, stabbing people and has been illegal for a long time!
I’d say if you used that Leatherman every day for your work then it should be fine to use under UK law. Plenty of otherwise illegal knives become absolutely fine when used for work. A normal Stanley knife is not UK legal but are on every job site in the country without issue. You’d probably want to take it off your belt when travelling to and from work but other than that, should be fine. I can understand why you might want to ere on the side of caution though.
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Thanks for the comment. Yes, I agree and at the time I was heavily engaged in theatre work, I never really worried about it and of course for many, many years, happily wore it to and from work and everywhere in between without any issues. Now, I don't work in that environment any more and have no real justification to carry it on my person each day. I do still use it a lot and certainly when going to and from anywhere away from home when I might need it, it goes in a container at the bottom of my back pack or shoulder bag. I also have a number of lock knives, one of which is in my tool box. No problem as you say, if there is 'good reason', but I never stop off to buy the pint of milk anymore if it's in the car. Unbelievably tragic, but sadly the reality of broken Britain and the raging knife crime we see.
It's never worth the risk.
I have the Gerber ledgend. That's got the locking blade so I don't use it for EDC.
I found a Wilco one, which is UK legal. It's not the same quality, but I always have a Swiss champ as well.
Why are there so many knife restrictions in the United Kingdom (UK) ?
I suspect different people will give a different answer. My answer is that the media create a storm of outrage when someone is killed and blame the knife, rather than the person using it illegally. The government then bans a type of knife to make it look like they're doing something, as it's way cheaper than investing in the criminal justice system.
I agree. Even the Leatherman Micra would fall foul of the law too.
Yeah, few of us thought that when it was released.
I’m surprised shops are willing to risk marketing it as ‘UK legal’ really.
You use with the handles open, and the blade can then fold in on itself. With the handles closed up you are actually impeding its cutting function.
Unfortunately the spirit of the law has been dropped for the letter of the law. This helps the police reduce the unsolved crimes in the statistics, because you will be arrested and convicted in most instance. It's not about removing weapons from the streets. The data from assault with a blade has shown its predominantly a kitchen knife. Cheap and readily available
The idea that murderers are buying £100 multitools is certainly ridiculous. Their mum’s £10 kitchen knife from Tesco is what they’re using.
I’ve seen people go back and forth on this for ages so I simply messaged 101 non emergency police number and they replied that it’s perfectly legal to carry, feel free to do the same
I would be careful with this, as those operating 101 are often not legal experts or even police officers.
Thanks for watching!
Bond, Leatherman Bond.
I know you meant that as a joke, but I think that actually is why they called it the Bond. It's aimed at the UK market, and it was a reference to James Bond.
I am aware of people being prosecuted for possession of a bladed article for carrying a Leatherman… funny how many coppers you see with them on their belts.
I agree completely with the blade folding from the outside idea. However, in combination with the other ridiculous part of the legislation; having a non locking folding blade (I’m sure has and will cause far more injuries than locking) it would mean Leatherman investing development and manufacture of a donkey only wanted by a handful of people… I’d be surprised if they took the step.
They could redesign it
Either way if the UK doesn't let you carry a lock blade knife it is time to go anywhere else and enjoy your freedom as a human being.
I guess we all have to weigh up our priorities - there are good things about the country as well, but this is one of the things that is a bit frustrating.
But you could say that about any EDC multi tool . ..
You're right - and if the blade is blocked from closing by the handle, or it locks, unfortunately that makes it illegal for UK EDC.
So the multi tool they sell in asda should be illegal then .. I have 2 ...
@@Yorkshireoutoorsandsurvivalif they are locking blades, or the handles stop them closing, then they are illegal for everyday carry. They aren’t illegal to own, but they are illegal to carry without good reason (and good reason has to stand up in court)
Why did UK parliament and police suddenly get filled with bellends?
I get that knife crime is an issue but that is literally what the police are there for. A crook will still get a knife when he wants to.
I think it's a mixture of media hysteria over their current pet peeve (sharp objects of any kind), and then the government think it's easier to just ban types of knife rather than invest money in policing and social services. A shame.
Sticks and stones will break your bones that's why they're outlawed.😮
Don't give them ideas!
Ah, with no guns or knives the UK must be a wonderful, safe, and pleasant place to live.
Oh wait, car bombs! 😮
The law says "readily folded" and pretends that a safety catch is somehow turning a folding knife into a fixed blade, the law is essentially a lie, and is fundamentally unlawful.
I was watching another video were the guy had a smaller multi tool in the same style as the bond just a cheap one but he mentioned that a police officer said the legality of it was questionable due to what you are saying so yeah I’d be carefull
Wow. Sorry this is the environment you have to work with
A real shame.
yep by strict definition of law it can not be legal only option is to remove the blades
That’s a locking blade therefore it falls outside the folding pocket knife exemption of a non locking knife less than three inches. You would have to show on the balance of probabilities good cause or reasonable excuse to possess in public
Leatherman market the Bond as UK legal for every day carry, which I think is not all that ethical as I agree that closing the handle turns it in essence into a locking knife.
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Yeah....100% right... I've been an avid reader of the knife legislation in UK, and that's how I'd interpret it. Illegal. Cheers for the info. 👍
I appreciate the comment, thanks! 👍
All multi tools would be this way if they are slip joint , but it's a tool kit , only sadly you have lost the point , and high lighted a point for some one to to change a law , it's a tool kit in your pocket not a knife in the true sense
No leatherman is legal here in the uk
The Squirt would be, as would all of the Juice series. All of which are discontinued unfortunately. Oh yes and the Knifeless Rebar although actually even that's a bit of a grey area too as it has sharp tools (reamer, scissors, even saw) which do lock.
Lol, little boys and their toys !
So sad that you guys are so used to being regulated so much that these ridiculous knife laws are reasonable to you, yes this is coming from someone who carries a firearm everyday so there’s that, njoy colonial rule mates 😂
Thanks for the comment. I wouldn't say I think it's reasonable to me, I am just explaining the law as it applies here.
No sir I think it’s absolutely ridiculous,however the corrupt police work for the corrupt government and will arrest you for such a petit infringement of the ridiculous law which could land you with possible prison sentence.
This is where the uk is right now.
Having said all that most people DO cheerfully accept their enslavement.
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Your hand impedes a slip joint from closing if you’re holding it in your hand. To fold the knife away you adjust your hand and close the knife.
Correct! However it doesn’t work that way with the Bond, as the handle impedes the closure of the knife which does not fit within the UK definition of a folding knife.