Why New Champs Are Mid But Buffs Seem Great Recently?!

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  • @BloodMoonFT
    @BloodMoonFT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    8:26 I think a problem in the community too is when people rightfully complain about a champion having a massive wall of text, and then the gameplay isn't any easier to understand and you have to actually study how to even do the basic rotations, and then people say it's a skill issue or you just need to get good. People normalizing that garbage doesn't help at all, it's so annoying.

  • @Bkaranja55
    @Bkaranja55 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    One kabam knows they will always have some whales to milk, but I think they still want to keep the free to play player base happy so they buff older champions

    • @TairiqueTuray
      @TairiqueTuray 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      If you look at it that way, then it’s great that Kabam are doing this. But I think the champs just happen to be underwhelming. I don’t think it was planned for recent champs to be mid.

    • @Bkaranja55
      @Bkaranja55 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @TairiqueTuray that's true but kabam also lied to us when they dropped arcade, they said he would have more immunities but he didn't and they just swept it under the rug, then they dropped serpent a big beefy defender and not alot of good counter to.

    • @TairiqueTuray
      @TairiqueTuray 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Bkaranja55 Serpent is a disease in the game. He absolutely needs a nerf for so many reasons. Them lying about Arcade is bad, I didn’t know about that. But buffing existing champs instead of only making new OP champs for the whales to gain even more of an advantage is good for the game.

    • @Bkaranja55
      @Bkaranja55 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @TairiqueTuray but then why did they "rig" the vote for blue cyclopes and Dr. Strange coz I know alot of pple wanted Strange to be a serpent counter and I have a tiny feeling kabam didn't want that, but that's just my opinion 😅😅😅

    • @hmk-064
      @hmk-064 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TairiqueTurayomg tairique turay my old alliance mate wth, my account name is DATCOOLHOMIE if u remember me lol. I still see u in global chat sometiems

  • @GrassHeartsAmora
    @GrassHeartsAmora 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    My poor beloved Arcade. My favorite champion, but I cannot deny his lack of meta relevance lol

    • @gregoryakorli8516
      @gregoryakorli8516 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sad

    • @barbar1an_
      @barbar1an_ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, he looks so cool and he seems fun, thats case with so many champs, enchantress is unique and fun but she 0 use in most metas when it comes to competitive modes

    • @faustoutloud
      @faustoutloud 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      If kabam doesn't buff Arcade damage or buff him on D I have no hope for the "BUFF program" lol

    • @gregoryakorli8516
      @gregoryakorli8516 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@faustoutloud by the buff team's logic it will make him more chaotic than Serp

    • @TheReal_DeanD
      @TheReal_DeanD 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      At least he has cool animations.

  • @Elseworlds
    @Elseworlds 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    We didn't had all this complexity before DLL. Just saying.

    • @Brei.
      @Brei. วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why didn’t I realize that….

    • @jasonsalistean9192
      @jasonsalistean9192 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What’s DLL?

    • @Brei.
      @Brei. วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jasonsalistean9192 DLL (short for DaddyLongLegs) is a person who works at Kabam and design champions. He also has a TH-cam channel.
      And he designed champions like Kate Bishop, Absorbing man, Kushala, Photon, The serpent and etc.
      and he also designed patriot.

    • @AlexWorrell
      @AlexWorrell วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jasonsalistean9192 Daddy Long Legs. He's one of the champion designers at Kabam.

  • @tanzerator56
    @tanzerator56 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The problem is that new champions are made to be either though defenders or super specific counters to new defenders which usually makes them extremly mid in other fights. For example class requirement on the utility on negasonic and patriot makes them useless outside the very specific matches they were made for.

  • @bluecat5065
    @bluecat5065 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I only partly would agree on this topic. There have been some really good champions in the mix like Leader, Beta, and Prowler. I've used Prowler, Beta, Leader and Silver Sable. Prowler and Beta are great and not difficult to learn except timing their heavies, which is not required to play either of them. Prowler might be my favorite champion released lately. Leader is more complex for sure but gets consistent results akin to Void, where he has slow ramp up but can take a lot of fights plus has some good defensive options. Silver Sable compared to the others is very simple; just keep the opponent on top of the mines and good things happen (usually by sticking them in the corner). Sable is badly in need of a buff however, whether that is easier access to her utility or bigger damage numbers (or both and possibly a way to refresh her shocks). Shathra is also looking extremely promising and would really love to pull them from a crystal even though the chances are I will not actually get to play them for a long time. I don't think it's quite fair to say the designers are full on themselves either, it's more like this game is going on 10 years and they are still trying to break new ground. Having said that would agree new champions tend to have too many moving parts and often none of them are very satisfying to use. The other big issue is that many of the best champions are defenders that get set on AW defense and forgotten instead of playing with them. I also have to agree that I don't understand their goals with Enchantress, she is super annoying as a defender requiring a constant mini game and yet takes the most memorization to use her spells as an attacker.

  • @BloodMoonFT
    @BloodMoonFT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    They are so terrified to create another Hercules man, he makes them shudder in fear knowing players saved so many units by using him. It's all to avoid Hercules 2 😂😂

    • @gmpp5590
      @gmpp5590 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      all it takes is just to not put inmortality in the kits and you wont have an herc 2.0

    • @BloodMoonFT
      @BloodMoonFT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gmpp5590 true but it's Kabam so don't expect much

    • @braga_rhun9960
      @braga_rhun9960 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@gmpp5590They did already in serpent

    • @jasonsalistean9192
      @jasonsalistean9192 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s all prevent a Hercules but made someone even more busted like serpent

  • @omenko-chan
    @omenko-chan 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Kabam will push Serpent, bullseye or Enchantress to be in the next SOP event with some tune downs maybe to make ppl learn to play against them and call it a day with no nerfing + you will get to have personal experience fighting those and say oh its not too hard - until you face them with sick nodes in BGs/AW/Quests.

    • @Nonyabizz1234
      @Nonyabizz1234 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Enchantress is a perfect 5/5 defender
      Bullseye and serpent are BOTH overtuned and don't even dare tell me bullseye is okay because serpent is obviously unfair

    • @hi-5004
      @hi-5004 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There’s actual counters to bullseye, CGR, bleed immune, (yes it’s unpractical but it gets the job done) or the obvious negasonic. Power gain nodes help bullseye a lot, however serpent is simply ridiculous, Kabam said that Chavez and Supreme were used as counters so that’s good enough, like what? That’s two champions out of a. near 400 pool 💀

    • @rushipuranik3398
      @rushipuranik3398 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hi-5004so claire voyant rintrah wiccan dont exist anymore?

  • @TheFisher316-d8n
    @TheFisher316-d8n 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    That's why my favorite champion in this game will always be Shocker. Such an EASY yet POWERFUL champion. Do your sp1s, get your charges, drop sp2, hold heavy and that's your damage. What more do we need? Simple champions are making the game fun! Yet we still getting champs like Enchantress where u need to learn a freakin poem of abilities and swipes in order to squeeze a mediocre damage from her. Who wanted that? Who thinks that it's fun? Not me

    • @irish165
      @irish165 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheFisher316-d8n I agree with you. I do have a rank 3 Enchantress and she can get some massive damage in long fights but she’s very impractical

    • @AlexWorrell
      @AlexWorrell วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@irish165 The word you want is "impractical".

    • @irish165
      @irish165 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AlexWorrell Whoops thanks Thesaurus Man appreciate that 😊

    • @AlexWorrell
      @AlexWorrell วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@irish165 You're welcome 👍

  • @adarrm
    @adarrm วันที่ผ่านมา

    In a world where these complex champs are being released, I've just R3'd Venompool. Uncomplicated playstyle, fun champion, you don't have to do anything complicated, just play him and good things happen. I rate that aspect very highly.

  • @AlexWorrell
    @AlexWorrell วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a progressing player, the question I always have to ask is: how is this character going to help me progress? Will they help me get through quests faster and more efficiently than characters I have already ranked up? Is this character more useful than Hercules, or Rintrah, or CGR, or Hulk, or Titania, or Kate Bishop, or Kushala, or...?
    If the answer is no then why would I chase that character? Why would I invest precious recources into that character? I still have so many banging 6* champions that I would love to rank up, but don't yet have the resources. Currently, at 6* R1, I have Red Skull, America Chavez, Werewolf by Night, Lady Deathstrike, Hyperion, Black Cat, Guardian, Human Torch, Ultron, Hulkbuster, and CMM that I would love to be able take to R4 but just don't have the resources.
    Why would I care about Silver Sable, Enchantress, Negasonic, or The Leader compared to the above?
    Kabam just haven't made the case for why we should care and what content they would get us through. They seem to only care about making insane BG defenders and then making champs that counter those defenders. Maybe essential if you love BG's but they ain't gonna help me get though act 6 or act 7.

  • @dumass048
    @dumass048 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't mind having more niche champions in the game and less generalists when we're coming up on nearly 300 champs, especially because the new champs take ages to get unless you're spending or they line up with the new featured crystal drop

  • @AlexWorrell
    @AlexWorrell วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree that Enchantress is completely ridiculous. You can tell by looking at DLL's champion spotlight with context video. Count Nefaria is 38 minutes, Enchantress is over an hour. Insanity! Fighting her feels a bit like going against a 'lite' version of the Grandmaster.

  • @hi-5004
    @hi-5004 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Champions that require interception as part of their gameplay are nearby impossible to keep a good consistency of because the AI doesn’t have it.

  • @truepotential206
    @truepotential206 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Also titan pool has so much trash in it. Fkin nova i got him twice. The chick with long gun. She is shiete. Blade? He got hard nerfed. Megasonic? Would be nice if her damage was as good as kate with frostbite arrow alone. But she garbage. Why are they in titan pools?? Fkin garbage. The very reason for titan pool is to make sure players get champs who dont go below a certain quality. They fked that up big time. I want my 40,000 shards back.

  • @Ghost-zb6jp
    @Ghost-zb6jp 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thought about these reasons since Hercules blew up. They are either very simple to play, but values are lacking; or they are overly complicated, and not fun to play

  • @MrPanaz
    @MrPanaz วันที่ผ่านมา

    While cooking, iam watching kt, then my brother arrived, then he ask what the hell are you watching😂😂😂

  • @chitrakbanerjee00001
    @chitrakbanerjee00001 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Plus one other factor with the recent complex champs is that even with the complicated rotation...the damage is just very mediocre...plus very punishing if u can't keep up with the flow... perfect example is punk, leader

  • @StephenDolan
    @StephenDolan วันที่ผ่านมา

    Leader is the only one I don't agree with, but the rest yeah, so much to master! To complicate matters, a lot of the newer champs are designed to be tough defenders. Whether you want to use these champs yourself, you have to learn how to fight them. Enchantress must be the pinnacle.

  • @markmartin5817
    @markmartin5817 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is the first time I’ve held a Titan. I hate how valuable they are and it’s not worth opening it right now. I’ll wait until another 2 cycles just get the duds out of the way. Serpent is the only champ I want rn.

  • @JohnnyEssex
    @JohnnyEssex 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ive genuinely learned enchantress's spells took me a few tries on lol star lord, thats it. i quite like her.. not a bgs champ, but ridiculously good and safe in long content..

  • @ganealuck
    @ganealuck วันที่ผ่านมา

    I absolutely love enchantress and she is the one exception for me. I learned most of her spells and I really want to use her. But she sucks offensively and other than for pure enjoyment I would not use her. She is overly reliant on synergy and sig ability and damage is just not there to balance the slowness of spamming sp1 and casting those spells.

  • @CP.Darkhawk
    @CP.Darkhawk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yep pretty much. I was trialing sable in aq and she didn't feel strong at all so I didn't even bother to learn her.

  • @joshgrant3044
    @joshgrant3044 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Completely agree I'll stick to my old faithful fun champs for sure

  • @INFAMOUS_0028
    @INFAMOUS_0028 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Since coming off my 2 year break 9 months ago.. I never actively seek to learn/read the Bible kabam puts in lol I JUST WAIT UNTIL content creators put guides out on specific content. They always say how to use the champ I know little about lol THABK YOU KT

  • @macmanko7880
    @macmanko7880 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Like Ronan :) he does one thing and one thing only but it is effective

  • @faustoutloud
    @faustoutloud 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I couldn't Agree more I'd love more simplistic champs like Hulkling that are great and fun and easy to use.😊 great vid KT.

  • @johnandersen6079
    @johnandersen6079 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kabam is trying to be too controlling with how you use champions. The new champions all have specific rotations that have tight windows to get maximum value. It started with Dani Moonstar. Kabam wants to force players to use champions a specific way and it is taking the fun out of it. Before there was the intended rotation and there were what players discovered and shared. Think the deep dive on Black Cat and then look at how people actually use her. I feel for Kabam in that the game is 10 years old and they want to do new things and keep the game fresh. But making the game insanely complicated isn’t going to bring in new players or make existing players stay.

  • @armoredghost918
    @armoredghost918 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I pulled 3 silver sables in a row from 3 Titans. I haven’t even bothered to rewatch her deep dive.
    Meanwhile I’m trying to use champs like prowler only to mess up his rotation most of the time because of it’s higher than average complexity.
    I do think BRB is pretty decent. He’s easy to use and has good damage. His main flaw is that he is so reliant on the cowardice and infuriate passives that despite having high potency sometimes just don’t work making him risky and unreliable.
    By comparison, Shocker is a perfect champ. He has very high damage, lots of utility, is a good defender (but not too annoying), and he is so extremely simple. But he can’t be used for everything (as no champ should)

  • @MrRajivcoonghe
    @MrRajivcoonghe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Releasing two champs a month is too much , kabam should consider releasing just one good champion

  • @t.o.double9497
    @t.o.double9497 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I got a 6* northstar a few weeks ago and having been messing around with him. He's pretty shit to be honest. He's a bootleg quicksilver who I'm not particularly a fan of either. The only new champs i like are the count, serpent,and Chee'lth. Negasonic, dust and iron heart are pretty good. Bill is extremely overrated in my eyes. Destroyer is fun. Bullseye is a great defender. The deathless champs are all decent. I think that's it

  • @NMEONES
    @NMEONES วันที่ผ่านมา

    Idk, I have tons of fun playing with Bill.

  • @BreadMane
    @BreadMane 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Arcade got all thos abilities/ imunities, but it took lagacy 1:40 seconds to take down winter soldier with a R3 😂😂😂😂

  • @truepotential206
    @truepotential206 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    20 abilty defenders and 2 ability attackers. Wolfman. Rupture and nullify 2 buffs out of 30. White tiger power steal and nullify 2 buffs 🤣🤣🤣.

  • @crissoccer12345
    @crissoccer12345 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    5% is super generous

  • @williamlane1607
    @williamlane1607 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Count Nefarious is OP

  • @reds4104
    @reds4104 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Completely agree

  • @mattblank4843
    @mattblank4843 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Make mcoc great again.

  • @ThePoolo12
    @ThePoolo12 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This has to be the worst way to stop power creep I've ever seen, like the old Champs won't gonna still be brocken

  • @H0LLYW00DHenn
    @H0LLYW00DHenn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You were so right about Beta Ray Bill lol, I hate his play style 🏌️‍♂️

  • @Abudibu1
    @Abudibu1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Red Skull and Arcade have the same damage output. Arcade is just as good if not better nowadays on defense. Red Skull is cosmic fodder

  • @irish165
    @irish165 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like Arcade he is fun. Side note he can do the Thor Rags on thundstruck path in 9.1 because one of his pre fights makes it so the opponent can’t reduce the duration of his debuffs lol

    • @FrightRdr
      @FrightRdr 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Fortunately Thor Rags isnt a problem anymore, they change it for Black Cat, I noticed it when I was doing my act 9 exploration yesterday

    • @irish165
      @irish165 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FrightRdr Damn bro you’re right that’s crazy. Where’s my comp? 😂😂 I soloed the fight but it took 6mins with arguably the best counter lol

  • @Thejiggly99
    @Thejiggly99 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    4th like

  • @bigstick8699
    @bigstick8699 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The biggest complainer on mcoc I swear. I can think of so many reasons to refute all these arguments.

    • @richardromero6722
      @richardromero6722 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      i think Proff hoff complains way more than the top 5 MCOC youtubers combined.

    • @dandann67
      @dandann67 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Then do it, refute it instead of saying you can

    • @landojasp7574
      @landojasp7574 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Proff hoff does’nt have logical thinking any more

    • @adhamanwar4114
      @adhamanwar4114 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's not his fault that half of the champs released this year are dogshit, look at the current titan pool most ppl are not opening it for a reason

    • @PaulWilliams-rm2rs
      @PaulWilliams-rm2rs 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      From your comment history on this channel, it seems like you complain far more than he does. All you have to do is go back to the CCP channels. It's all rainbows and sunshine there.

  • @Copsarecowards
    @Copsarecowards 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm so dam mad I pulled silver sable I didn't even waste no iso on her or gold probably never will