You Forgot a VERY IMPORTANT function !! It makes changing strings much easier on a Floyd Rose ...Just lock it in place put the strings on and tune .!!!!
My only caveat would be to put a piece of masking tape down to mark where your claw was. That way you’ll be able to get back to the proper tension quickly.
I didn't want to completely stop the bridge from being able to move so I used cork from a bottle of wine, cut it in half and put it in front and back, this allows tuning as you would a fixed bridge but still able to use tremolo bar for playing. Actually worked better than I thought it would
You sir are What Budweiser would call a real man of genius, my partner drinks all types of wine I’m trying this tonight. It would be awesome if you made a video
Thanks a lot man! Well I wasn't active on YT for many years (between my first videos in 2008 and 2016) so that explains a lot. To be fair, I don't focus on numbers that much. I'm more interested in having an awesome community and that's totally happening. Couldn't be happier with how cool our viewers are. :) Cheers! //Kris
I'm planning on picking up a Solar S1.6C once Ola starts making them again. It's black with white binding, like the S2.6C but with better hardware and Evertune :D
This thing works badass! I had one of these on my old jackson Rhodes V, it worked perfectly. If i ever buy anothwr floating trim this is a must have soon as i get it. For playability, string changes, working on frets etc. They are a must have if you have a floyd rose IMO.
I am in the process of doing same on my Schecter C1 fr s sls elite. Once all mods are done I will have D’Addario Auto Trim tuners, Tone Vise Keyless Nut Locks, GraphTech Ghost Floyd Rose Piezo and preamp, Tremmory, Tremol-no, Tone Vise Drop D Pitch Shifter, and hopefully a home-made B Bender to work on the FR which I am designing currently.
chris…i love your tutorials. i have a sterling jp60 and watched your tutorial with matti and loved it. i do not use a tremolo bar and want to block it. i may use the wood blick method. it seems simple. keep up the awesome job. your videos are excellent.
I have a Tremol-no on my BC Rich and I love it. I'm not a huge fan of Floyd Rose's. The guitar is killer, plays and sounds amazing, but I don't get into the whole 80's dive bomb thing. I threw the Tremol-no on there along with some stiffer springs and locking tuners. I just finger tighten the screws at the nut so it keeps the aesthetic, but they're loose enough I can still use my tuners. Occasionally I'll loosen the one screw on the back so I can press down on the bar, which makes it operate more like a Strat. Biggest game changer on here though is changing strings.
I just got one of these. Have wanted one for years, as we do a lot of songs that move between standard and drop D. Im hoping that my fine tuner will allow for moving from standard to D. Unfortunately my FL wont allow for the EVH droppa which would be the icing on the cake. Thanks for the informative video. I will get installing after my coffee
For years I just used wood to block and it ws fine until I started playing out. I noticed that that block of wood would swell in the humidity and knock me out of tune anyway. So I installed the tremol-no . So far so good. It is an easy install. I used tape to mark my original spot but I still had to crank the screws up about 12 more turns from that spot. I guess it is a good marker point to do so.
lol@@Steinstra-vj7wllol well i have to admit i got overexcited when i saw it price i got a hardtail guitar instead as for my floating ill just upgrade the trem block to brass
i just got mine, the black hex screw that holds the wire in place that normally sodered came stripped, what can I do? also even with is installed doing dive only, or hardtail the bridge is not smooth and won't go back into its rightful floating place?
I have a floating trem system but I bend a lot and use the 'dive-only-mode'. Unfortunately, all I've seen is either to : (1) block the trem completely, which you CANT use the trem as a whole (can bend without strings go out of tune//flat) (2) block the trem only at the back, so only dive mode (which i really want with no.1) (3) use tream as it is (cant bend or strings will go flat) is there a way to get the best solution for getting (1) + (2)?
When it's in floating mode, the Tremol-no doesn't do anything at all. It's completely loose. So the tremolo will return to it's normal position the same way, as it did without the Tremol-no installed. //cheers, Kris
I have a possibly odd question, I dislike the FR but some guitars are offered which are awesome (on a second hand market site) but with the FR, blocking it is then my way to go, but I still dislike the locking on the topsadle, this becomes then superfluous I assmume and just put some flathead screws to cover the holes, right?
There are 3 versions of tremol-no. The difference being the size of the claw that clamps to the trem block. Large claw, small claw and no claw that is just the spring hook.
So does this mean I could install a D-tuna and the Tremol-no and be able to switch between Drop D and standard but still be able to use a floating bridge for standard and still be able to dive with drop d?
Can you block the floyd rose while tuning and then end block it again so that you don't have to tune back and forth forever and it stays in the position it normally is with the correct setting?
I haven't played my guitar in years, which has a Tremol-No set up by a guitar repairman. However, I noticed the Deep-C is not tight enough and still moves when I push the Floyd Rose up even in Hardtail mode. Is this some kind of a maintenance issue where I need to use lube?
I never thought of fitting a piece of wood to a tremolo because I don't have the means to shape it properly in my apartment. So of course, this Tremo No looks like an easier to install thing. I just hope it doesn't add noise to your tones. Not that I'm interested, I'm still in the honeymoon with my floyd rose. But it's good to know this exists.
I have this system installed on a jackson pdx 2 as hardtail mode and what i can say is that i have more sustain with original pickup hz. Dont ask me how is this happening. I think they can improve this system by making the 3 screws with allen key because is a bit hard to tighten them all the way by hand
I've had 2 of these and they work great except when one of the 3 screws shown above just happens to fall out...Just make sure you have them screwed in tightly to the O ring and as a afterthought it also affects The Floyd's ability to flutter properly but it's a great stabilizing system if you like versatility
Wasn't sure this is what I wanted, but saw how easy it is to install and how versatile it is. I bought one for my Strandberg, and if I like it I might be getting one for all my trem'd guitars.
@@grandwazoo1696 it is okay. It doesn’t hold stable for string changes so I still block it off when doing that. With bass heavy notes/riffs it tends to rattle where the claw connects to the metal bar. Which can be annoying but not completely intolerable. It holds great while playing, or drop tuning. Whatever the guitar is setup for is the only time you can use the trem for because obviously when you unlock it if it is no longer in that tuning it will go out of tune. I’d recommend it but it has certain things that need to be learned to live with.
@@grandwazoo1696 no, I did all 6 at once. Considering how it holds with drip tuning I’d imagine that changing one string at a time would be fine though. That’s a good shout!
I just fitted one to the Strat. Seems unstable. Talked to my guitar tech and said he had installed many of them, but the vast majority had been removed due to system instability
Any "clank" noise? I have read some people get to hear it thru the springs/strings into the pickups. I have never tried one but would really like to try it.
I read a lot of reviews that say there is clanking noises, but I’m sure that if you put some foam in between the springs and the guitar body, that would solve the problem. That’s something that any Floyd user should be doing anyway because the springs can rattle around in the cavity and be picked up by the pickups.
I bought a tremol-no, installed it, then removed it a couple months later. There is definitely "clank" noise not related to the springs when in "dive only" mode. I also ran into issues where the screws that were supposed to lock the system would loosen on their own (and I mean within minutes of them being tightened to begin with). It was worth a shot, but ultimately I did not like the tremol-no and will not consider re-installing it.
@@2112Relayer I was looking for this answer: I also ran into issues where the screws that were supposed to lock the system would loosen on their own. That screw gona loosen sooner than later... bad design.
Can I use it with a 7 string floyd rose? And if I change the tuning while the bridge is locked what happens if then I dislock the bridge and I use the whammy bar with the new tuning? Thanks
First, yes you can install it on a 7 strings floyd Rose, as long as you use the specific springs for your model. Second, if you switch to free mode, nothing happens if the neck locks are locked, although it slightly goes out of tune a bit. Cheers.
Does anyone else have trouble with their Tremol-No? I recently installed mine and the screws don't seem to lock the bar from moving. When I lock before dropping each string down a half step (E to Eb), it goes out of whack because the bar doesn't actually lock into place. I can still move it with very little ease by either pushing or pulling on the Floyd Rose from the front. I reached out to All Parts, but they won't respond to my emails or answer my calls (and their voicemail isn't set up). Any advice? I already tried rotating which thumbscrews are used where, but they all seem to suck at actually locking the Tremol-No in place.
Kool vid man really interested in the discussion of this topic, being poor for a lot of my life Ive tried lots of things and varietys of wood in both sides on the tremolo block and aim to find ones that don't inhibit the actual guitar tone as much as possible or add any undesired overtones, and generally I would always go with wood. SIDE TIP - I've found tortex picks to work great to fill just a little space if your broke and needed since they dont actually really "sound" like anything or add anything tonaly speaking and don't have the usual plastic sound of regular picks ;).
I confirm this to be true. I have been collecting picks from a lot of rock concerts through my life. But the one I use constantly is the Tortex 2mm. It makes picking easy and the sound of any string set becomes more punchy.
So does it still feel easy to use the trembar or do you have to put considerably more effort in pushing it up or down. Thats usually trade off that comes with these trem stabilizers.
Hi, on a passive guitar, yes that would be a problem. You'll have a crazy ground hum if you remove it. On an active pickup loaded guitar, not so much. //Kris
In all 3 examples he still has the locking nut apparently locked. Did he record playing before installing the tremol-no or am I missing something about how its supposed to work? Seriously asking, not complaining.
As you can see at 2:40 there's a screw for the ground so no need for soldering there. You'll have to unsolder the ground from the original spring claw though. //Cheers, Kris
Since the strings are not always pushed tight into the nut unless it's locked, I recommend still locking it. That's a big difference between a locking nut and a regular one: only the later one needs a correct string angle behind the nut to work properly without a buzz. This is of course different on every guitar, if the strings are pushed down into the nut slot enough without it being locked, then you're good and should just ignore everything that I wrote, haha. :) //Kris
Would it be possible to use a Tremol-no and EVH D-Tuna together? I know the D-Tuna is only for dive only Floyd setups, would it cause problems if you went back to floating with it installed? Or could you just ignore it while in floating mode and still use it in decked mode? If you have a better way to go between drop D and standard on a Floyd I would really love to hear it!
Hey Sam, yeah sure you can mix those two. Just ignore the D Tuna when in floating mode and only use it when the trem is blocked. Here's a tip though: try something like the Guitar-Guard Hardtailer with the D Tuna instead. That thing is rock solid and even faster to block / unblock. th-cam.com/video/GF2H6SyRn8g/w-d-xo.html Cheers //Kris
Hey, there are limitations to what tension change a small screw can handle (small screw being the one you tighten on the Tremol-No for dive only mode). I haven't tried to tune all the strings that low but I could imagine it being too much. It's not an issue to drop tune the 6th string of course. Cheers //Kris
yes because this only works due to the fact that it wont allow it to go back when lowering the low e string thus keeping the remaining strings from going out of tune wish it could thou i'm going to look at a hybrid method of maybe using the tremol no and a backstop or maybe the tremmory together to see if that would possible work
This video confirms that I need this on my only floating bridge guitar and plan to use it in conjunction with a D-tuna and only use the full function when in standard, and fully blocked or push down when in D. Has anyone ever tried this?
I really dont like trems but love the guitars they come on like super strat. I am not much for solder as im visually impared but id prefer the funny little tool
Hey Mark, the Ibanez Edge tremolo on the JS2450 (and the Lo-Pro Edge on many other Ibanez guitars) look maybe a little different but you set them up and use them the same way as Floyd Rose or Schaller tremolos. This means if you want a Tremol-No for the JS you'll most probably need the one with the small clamp. That's the same as what I was using in this video. //cheers, Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Tnx Kriss help a lot !!🙌🏼🎸💯 I instal temol no on my JS , and i Love this litle gadet . Now it's some other level guitar . All the best and greetings from Serbia 💪🏼🎸🙏🏼💯
Hmm My tone just sound like 1€ , Huge Huge diference tone vise !!! Excellent gadet i enjoy playing it on Drop D . On my JS 2450 mcb ... But , i now must put again my old spring claw to make shure is it now with Tremol no Everything litle transparent curtain ... :/ P.S. This device but stainles steel or maybe Titanium , then it would make sense ... This Aluminium I think NOT .
I installed a Tremol-No on my LTD KH602, because string change with a floating Floyd Rose is a pain in the a**. Just be cautious with the locking screws on the claw. I managed to ruin the spring claw screws, because the locking screws there still too tight. BTW the way the Tremol-No claw was a bit higher than the original claw and the tremolo cover won`t fit anymore.The reason for this is: the guys in the WMI factory slanted the original screws too much and I am stuck with these predrilled holes. Is there a tech tip to fix this easily?
Hmm. Too bad with the mounting claw screws. The only proper way of fixing that is closing the holes with hard wood and redialling them. It's a little tricky though and you will need a special drill bit so I recommend visiting a luthier. //cheers, Kris
More like Tremel Whoa! What are my options for a zero point return stabilizer for a Floyd to be sure it returns to the balance point? I know Vai has a pair of ibani sumpfins in His Pia( not in the production model)??
I'm considering investing in one. I didn't see what you did with the ground wire after installing it though. Edit: I watched the installation part again. I see there's a little clamp for the wire.
@@Steinstra-vj7wl yes, this is true and they will vibrate out without the rubber washers. However, I've gotten around this using Loctite thread locker. Use a very little amount of the blue variety and they will stay put. But its very important that only a tiny bit is used and it is of the blue variety.
@@shawnobryant9949 A device works 100%, or not: not like "it works for 90%". I don't want to spent time to "solutions" to an inherit flaw. Besides, the whole point of this device is to quickly lock, unlock, and lock again, which it won't do with glue.
My guitar trem is not that great and it has some tunning stability issues (cheap guitar), but I do wanna use it to dive on some songs instead of fully blocking it, will this help the overall stability of the trem?
Hi, I'm afraid it wont make anything better or more stable. The "dive only" feature of the tremol-no only works fine, if the tremolo holds the tuning well on its own already. I'm sorry to disappoint you. 😬 //Kris
It should. One of the easier things to do to restring and setup a floyd rose is to use a shim. so , setting the tremelono into locking position would do the same.
There are a few versions of the Tremol-No: one for thin trem blocks (small clamp) one for thick blocks (large clamp) and there's even one with a pin for the block, instead of a clamp. So yes, it pretty much fits all common floating trems. //cheers, Kris
Wenn man das Tremolo mit dem Gadget blockiert kann man ja "ganz normal" umstimmen (das wäre mein Hauptgrund dafür), anders als mit nem freien System. Wie problematisch ist es, wenn man meinetwegen von Standard auf C-Tuning stimmt während das Tremolo blockiert ist und es dann mittels der Feststellschrauben wieder freigibt? Können da Schäden entstehen oder geht dann einfach nur die Stimmstabilität verloren?
You Forgot a VERY IMPORTANT function !! It makes changing strings much easier on a Floyd Rose ...Just lock it in place put the strings on and tune .!!!!
I did forget to mention that. Thank you!! :) Very good point! Comments like this are the reason why I love our community. Cheers man!
//Kris
how far out of tune can u go when its blocked? do u have to take it back to the original tuning if changing strings or unblocking the trem?
Yup, but just make sure you do ONE string at a time when doing so.
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses where can I find the tremmory, Iooked on Ebay no luck
@@moisesjimenez4627 Hey, if you're looking for the Tremmory, search no further. Thomann sells it. Try thomann.de :)
//Kris
My only caveat would be to put a piece of masking tape down to mark where your claw was. That way you’ll be able to get back to the proper tension quickly.
Such a simple yet great tip! Thanks for the comment Michael! Cheers //Kris
I didn't want to completely stop the bridge from being able to move so I used cork from a bottle of wine, cut it in half and put it in front and back, this allows tuning as you would a fixed bridge but still able to use tremolo bar for playing. Actually worked better than I thought it would
You sir are What Budweiser would call a real man of genius, my partner drinks all types of wine I’m trying this tonight. It would be awesome if you made a video
picture would be beneficial.
I might just try this.
I don't do dive bombs or anything like that. I literally just use the bar for vibrato and that's about it. That'd be perfect.
Ive been watching you from the very beginning of your TH-cam career. You should have a million plus subscribers by now.
Thanks a lot man! Well I wasn't active on YT for many years (between my first videos in 2008 and 2016) so that explains a lot. To be fair, I don't focus on numbers that much. I'm more interested in having an awesome community and that's totally happening. Couldn't be happier with how cool our viewers are. :) Cheers! //Kris
Oh the red Solar
I love it too, man. That's why it's became our "long-term studio heavy guitar".
//cheers, Kris
I'm planning on picking up a Solar S1.6C once Ola starts making them again. It's black with white binding, like the S2.6C but with better hardware and Evertune :D
This thing works badass! I had one of these on my old jackson Rhodes V, it worked perfectly. If i ever buy anothwr floating trim this is a must have soon as i get it. For playability, string changes, working on frets etc. They are a must have if you have a floyd rose IMO.
My Floyd rose Harley Benton has a Tremel-NO AND a Tremeroy installed in it - EVH D-tuna too!
I am in the process of doing same on my Schecter C1 fr s sls elite. Once all mods are done I will have D’Addario Auto Trim tuners, Tone Vise Keyless Nut Locks, GraphTech Ghost Floyd Rose Piezo and preamp, Tremmory, Tremol-no, Tone Vise Drop D Pitch Shifter, and hopefully a home-made B Bender to work on the FR which I am designing currently.
I want to do this too but I wasn't sure if the tremmory and tremolno would fit. Were there any issues installing them together.
Me too, the tremol no combined with Floyd Rose with a d tuna is great!
@@jamesfrederick99 can I see
If you set the tremel no on dive only, can you then just tune to drop tuning without having to retune all strings?
chris…i love your tutorials. i have a sterling jp60 and watched your tutorial with matti and loved it. i do not use a tremolo bar and want to block it. i may use the wood blick method. it seems simple. keep up the awesome job. your videos are excellent.
I love that you are using a Solar guitar in the video. I was thinking of buying a Tremol no for my Solar S1FRBLB.🤘
I have a Tremol-no on my BC Rich and I love it. I'm not a huge fan of Floyd Rose's. The guitar is killer, plays and sounds amazing, but I don't get into the whole 80's dive bomb thing. I threw the Tremol-no on there along with some stiffer springs and locking tuners. I just finger tighten the screws at the nut so it keeps the aesthetic, but they're loose enough I can still use my tuners. Occasionally I'll loosen the one screw on the back so I can press down on the bar, which makes it operate more like a Strat.
Biggest game changer on here though is changing strings.
I just got one of these. Have wanted one for years, as we do a lot of songs that move between standard and drop D. Im hoping that my fine tuner will allow for moving from standard to D. Unfortunately my FL wont allow for the EVH droppa which would be the icing on the cake. Thanks for the informative video. I will get installing after my coffee
If you haven’t done it yet put a piece of masking tape to mark where your claw was set at.
I love having the Tremol-No on my BC Rich Warbeast WMD and it was so easy to install that could and did do it myself
I always wanted one of those guitars!
How has it held up after 3+ years of use assuming you still have and use your WarBeast?
If you had it in full lock, can you down tune hassle free, obviously not being able to unlock until back to original tuning?
For years I just used wood to block and it ws fine until I started playing out. I noticed that that block of wood would swell in the humidity and knock me out of tune anyway. So I installed the tremol-no . So far so good. It is an easy install. I used tape to mark my original spot but I still had to crank the screws up about 12 more turns from that spot. I guess it is a good marker point to do so.
If locking the block, can you remove the sting locks? I want to be able to do drop D on the fly
best gutar upgrade i have even seen in my life
So i guess you have not seen many?
lol@@Steinstra-vj7wllol well i have to admit i got overexcited when i saw it price i got a hardtail guitar instead as for my floating ill just upgrade the trem block to brass
i just got mine, the black hex screw that holds the wire in place that normally sodered came stripped, what can I do? also even with is installed doing dive only, or hardtail the bridge is not smooth and won't go back into its rightful floating place?
I have a floating trem system but I bend a lot and use the 'dive-only-mode'.
Unfortunately, all I've seen is either to :
(1) block the trem completely, which you CANT use the trem as a whole (can bend without strings go out of tune//flat)
(2) block the trem only at the back, so only dive mode (which i really want with no.1)
(3) use tream as it is (cant bend or strings will go flat)
is there a way to get the best solution for getting (1) + (2)?
Would it be possible to fully lock the tremolno, drop tune, and then unlock the tremolno? Or would this cause spring tension issues?
Does the "floating mode" always return the whammy to the same position like a Black Box would?
When it's in floating mode, the Tremol-no doesn't do anything at all. It's completely loose. So the tremolo will return to it's normal position the same way, as it did without the Tremol-no installed.
//cheers, Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Thank zou very much!
Hey, is this a good tool to drop the 6th string on a stranberg floating guitar? Thanks
Can we get a video like this for Tremmory?
That's a great idea. I wrote it on the list of ideas. Thanks!
//cheers, Kris
So could I install a D-tuna and it would work in hardtail and dive only mode?
I have a possibly odd question, I dislike the FR but some guitars are offered which are awesome (on a second hand market site) but with the FR, blocking it is then my way to go, but I still dislike the locking on the topsadle, this becomes then superfluous I assmume and just put some flathead screws to cover the holes, right?
Does this work with the fat brass blocks? It looks like the clamp around the block is adjustable, but can't tell how wide it actually adjusts.
There are 3 versions of tremol-no. The difference being the size of the claw that clamps to the trem block. Large claw, small claw and no claw that is just the spring hook.
If you have a floating tremolo you have to put in a block behind and in front no? That way it can’t go either way while tuning?
I've just ordered mine on Thomann. I really wanna try that out and finally be able to use a d tuna.
Installed it couple of years ago on my Hawker 727. It works great
So does this mean I could install a D-tuna and the Tremol-no and be able to switch between Drop D and standard but still be able to use a floating bridge for standard and still be able to dive with drop d?
If you have a D tuna you can float in both standard and in drop D. You wouldn't need the tremelo no
Can you block the floyd rose while tuning and then end block it again so that you don't have to tune back and forth forever and it stays in the position it normally is with the correct setting?
I haven't played my guitar in years, which has a Tremol-No set up by a guitar repairman. However, I noticed the Deep-C is not tight enough and still moves when I push the Floyd Rose up even in Hardtail mode. Is this some kind of a maintenance issue where I need to use lube?
I never thought of fitting a piece of wood to a tremolo because I don't have the means to shape it properly in my apartment. So of course, this Tremo No looks like an easier to install thing. I just hope it doesn't add noise to your tones. Not that I'm interested, I'm still in the honeymoon with my floyd rose. But it's good to know this exists.
How did it went?
Can you still do flutters with the Tremol-No in floating mode?
yes. It flutters
can you retune it in dive only?
Yay! Food to know I can get them on thomann. Nice things
For full floating mode I just loosen all 3 screws? That's it?
I have this system installed on a jackson pdx 2 as hardtail mode and what i can say is that i have more sustain with original pickup hz. Dont ask me how is this happening.
I think they can improve this system by making the 3 screws with allen key because is a bit hard to tighten them all the way by hand
The sound Yamaha Valve Amp is so satisfying! Great
I've had 2 of these and they work great except when one of the 3 screws shown above just happens to fall out...Just make sure you have them screwed in tightly to the O ring and as a afterthought it also affects The Floyd's ability to flutter properly but it's a great stabilizing system if you like versatility
the hardtail mode sounds really good
Wasn't sure this is what I wanted, but saw how easy it is to install and how versatile it is. I bought one for my Strandberg, and if I like it I might be getting one for all my trem'd guitars.
How do you like it?
@@grandwazoo1696 it is okay. It doesn’t hold stable for string changes so I still block it off when doing that. With bass heavy notes/riffs it tends to rattle where the claw connects to the metal bar. Which can be annoying but not completely intolerable. It holds great while playing, or drop tuning. Whatever the guitar is setup for is the only time you can use the trem for because obviously when you unlock it if it is no longer in that tuning it will go out of tune. I’d recommend it but it has certain things that need to be learned to live with.
@@MrAustinMusic Thank you for the reply. I am wondering if you tried changing one string at a time when it is locked?
@@grandwazoo1696 no, I did all 6 at once. Considering how it holds with drip tuning I’d imagine that changing one string at a time would be fine though. That’s a good shout!
Should i buy it or just use the piece of wood method?
I just fitted one to the Strat.
Seems unstable.
Talked to my guitar tech and said he had installed many of them, but the vast majority had been removed due to system instability
Any "clank" noise? I have read some people get to hear it thru the springs/strings into the pickups. I have never tried one but would really like to try it.
I read a lot of reviews that say there is clanking noises, but I’m sure that if you put some foam in between the springs and the guitar body, that would solve the problem. That’s something that any Floyd user should be doing anyway because the springs can rattle around in the cavity and be picked up by the pickups.
I bought a tremol-no, installed it, then removed it a couple months later. There is definitely "clank" noise not related to the springs when in "dive only" mode. I also ran into issues where the screws that were supposed to lock the system would loosen on their own (and I mean within minutes of them being tightened to begin with). It was worth a shot, but ultimately I did not like the tremol-no and will not consider re-installing it.
@@2112Relayer I was looking for this answer: I also ran into issues where the screws that were supposed to lock the system would loosen on their own. That screw gona loosen sooner than later... bad design.
Can I use it with a 7 string floyd rose? And if I change the tuning while the bridge is locked what happens if then I dislock the bridge and I use the whammy bar with the new tuning?
Thanks
First, yes you can install it on a 7 strings floyd Rose, as long as you use the specific springs for your model.
Second, if you switch to free mode, nothing happens if the neck locks are locked, although it slightly goes out of tune a bit.
Cheers.
Does anyone else have trouble with their Tremol-No? I recently installed mine and the screws don't seem to lock the bar from moving. When I lock before dropping each string down a half step (E to Eb), it goes out of whack because the bar doesn't actually lock into place. I can still move it with very little ease by either pushing or pulling on the Floyd Rose from the front. I reached out to All Parts, but they won't respond to my emails or answer my calls (and their voicemail isn't set up). Any advice? I already tried rotating which thumbscrews are used where, but they all seem to suck at actually locking the Tremol-No in place.
For a floydrose special wich tremolo no i have to use?
How about on an edge zero ll...?😃
Would this work on a 7 string schecter hellraiser?
Would I need the big clamp or the small clamp for a 1000 series floyd?
Did u figure out how this entire thing works? Idk what to buy for my jackson kelly
which one is better this one on the video or Tremmory from Germany?
Kool vid man really interested in the discussion of this topic, being poor for a lot of my life Ive tried lots of things and varietys of wood in both sides on the tremolo block and aim to find ones that don't inhibit the actual guitar tone as much as possible or add any undesired overtones, and generally I would always go with wood.
SIDE TIP - I've found tortex picks to work great to fill just a little space if your broke and needed since they dont actually really "sound" like anything or add anything tonaly speaking and don't have the usual plastic sound of regular picks ;).
I confirm this to be true. I have been collecting picks from a lot of rock concerts through my life. But the one I use constantly is the Tortex 2mm. It makes picking easy and the sound of any string set becomes more punchy.
I was suppose to get one, but when I was shopping my Fishman fluence, the cost started to get higher and higher.
But to the summer, I shall get one.
such a great tool, thank you for demonstrating it!
This video is hilariously SO MUCH BETTER than the official Tremol-No videos.
Thanks a lot man! Cheers //Kris
That's because those videos are ancient and super low resolution.
Can i use the EVH D-Tuna with it and will the tuning stay stable then? does anyone have any expiriences using both?
yes you can, no prob, put i have now a few Tone Vise much better, and it does the same job.😉
Is it possible to order a floyd-rose guitar with tremol-no pre-installed ?
It's good to know I dont have to uninstall the trem no on my strat. Didnt realize what a good tool it was
So does it still feel easy to use the trembar or do you have to put considerably more effort in pushing it up or down. Thats usually trade off that comes with these trem stabilizers.
Nah when you loosen this it feels totoally normal.
It slides effortlessly.
Its different from the midpoint spring based stabilizers.
Will I be able to fix this on Ibanez RG60ALS?
Does removing the ground wire make any proble?
Hi, on a passive guitar, yes that would be a problem. You'll have a crazy ground hum if you remove it. On an active pickup loaded guitar, not so much. //Kris
In all 3 examples he still has the locking nut apparently locked. Did he record playing before installing the tremol-no or am I missing something about how its supposed to work? Seriously asking, not complaining.
I think he loosened the locking nuts just enough so they wouldn't fall off
Can you run one of these with a tremmory, or does that not work
Will this work with a Kahler Spyder trem?
did you have to solder the ground? or is there like a screw connection or something. Will i need to solder anything is basically im asking
As you can see at 2:40 there's a screw for the ground so no need for soldering there. You'll have to unsolder the ground from the original spring claw though.
//Cheers, Kris
When bridge is fixed, do you still need to lock the nut?
Since the strings are not always pushed tight into the nut unless it's locked, I recommend still locking it. That's a big difference between a locking nut and a regular one: only the later one needs a correct string angle behind the nut to work properly without a buzz. This is of course different on every guitar, if the strings are pushed down into the nut slot enough without it being locked, then you're good and should just ignore everything that I wrote, haha. :) //Kris
@ThomannsGuitarsBasses thanks for the reply. Really appreciated
U know where i can get a international delivery? I found one but i had to pay 3x more to deliver to Brazil ;)
Would it be possible to use a Tremol-no and EVH D-Tuna together? I know the D-Tuna is only for dive only Floyd setups, would it cause problems if you went back to floating with it installed? Or could you just ignore it while in floating mode and still use it in decked mode?
If you have a better way to go between drop D and standard on a Floyd I would really love to hear it!
Hey Sam, yeah sure you can mix those two. Just ignore the D Tuna when in floating mode and only use it when the trem is blocked. Here's a tip though: try something like the Guitar-Guard Hardtailer with the D Tuna instead. That thing is rock solid and even faster to block / unblock. th-cam.com/video/GF2H6SyRn8g/w-d-xo.html
Cheers //Kris
Can I go from E to D to C# in dive only mode with no problems? I have a dinky js22 with 2 point tremolo. I'm still on the fence with Floyds
Hey, there are limitations to what tension change a small screw can handle (small screw being the one you tighten on the Tremol-No for dive only mode). I haven't tried to tune all the strings that low but I could imagine it being too much. It's not an issue to drop tune the 6th string of course. Cheers //Kris
Will this lock the Ibanez Edge-Zero w/ZPS3 bridge?
Those Edge Zero ZPS3 tremolos have a different shape and construction at the springs so this wouldn't fit unfortunately. //Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Kris, thank you for the reply. Do you have anything that can lock or block that trem?
Great video. Really awesome tutorial to review and install.
Also, what is that tune/song starting at the 1:53 mark?
Can I use this on a evh 5150 guitar because of the d tuna
Awesome video thanks🤘🏻🎸🎶
Do I have to adjust the floating bridge again if i were to go from E standard to a drop tuning and use the full floating mode at the same time?
yes because this only works due to the fact that it wont allow it to go back when lowering the low e string thus keeping the remaining strings from going out of tune wish it could thou i'm going to look at a hybrid method of maybe using the tremol no and a backstop or maybe the tremmory together to see if that would possible work
I'm down to try it.
This video confirms that I need this on my only floating bridge guitar and plan to use it in conjunction with a D-tuna and only use the full function when in standard, and fully blocked or push down when in D. Has anyone ever tried this?
I really dont like trems but love the guitars they come on like super strat. I am not much for solder as im visually impared but id prefer the funny little tool
holy crap why did i just find out about this. 100% ordering.
I never knew how much I hated Floyd rose till I owned a Floyd rose. Lol. Plus, the internet Floyd rose experts are always out of tune. Lol.
Can you please tell me is there any different Model of trem no , Specially for Ibanez 2450 JS ?
Hey Mark, the Ibanez Edge tremolo on the JS2450 (and the Lo-Pro Edge on many other Ibanez guitars) look maybe a little different but you set them up and use them the same way as Floyd Rose or Schaller tremolos.
This means if you want a Tremol-No for the JS you'll most probably need the one with the small clamp. That's the same as what I was using in this video.
//cheers, Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Tnx Kriss help a lot !!🙌🏼🎸💯
I instal temol no on my JS , and i Love this litle gadet . Now it's some other level guitar . All the best and greetings from Serbia 💪🏼🎸🙏🏼💯
Hmm My tone just sound like 1€ , Huge Huge diference tone vise !!!
Excellent gadet i enjoy playing it on Drop D . On my JS 2450 mcb ... But , i now must put again my old spring claw to make shure is it now with Tremol no Everything litle transparent curtain ... :/
P.S. This device but stainles steel or maybe Titanium , then it would make sense ... This Aluminium I think NOT .
I installed a Tremol-No on my LTD KH602, because string change with a floating Floyd Rose is a pain in the a**. Just be cautious with the locking screws on the claw. I managed to ruin the spring claw screws, because the locking screws there still too tight. BTW the way the Tremol-No claw was a bit higher than the original claw and the tremolo cover won`t fit anymore.The reason for this is: the guys in the WMI factory slanted the original screws too much and I am stuck with these predrilled holes. Is there a tech tip to fix this easily?
Hmm. Too bad with the mounting claw screws. The only proper way of fixing that is closing the holes with hard wood and redialling them. It's a little tricky though and you will need a special drill bit so I recommend visiting a luthier.
//cheers, Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Thx for the reply!
More like Tremel Whoa! What are my options for a zero point return stabilizer for a Floyd to be sure it returns to the balance point? I know Vai has a pair of ibani sumpfins in His Pia( not in the production model)??
“Without making mods”… proceeds to pull out the soldering kit
I'm considering investing in one. I didn't see what you did with the ground wire after installing it though. Edit: I watched the installation part again. I see there's a little clamp for the wire.
Check 2:37 again, you can see it how I clamp the ground wire on the tremolo claw with that small screw. Cheers //Kris
Cool informative vdeo's, could you do one on installing Tremmory?
Can you flutter with this system?
One thing worth noting is that at least for me, the device works far better after the removal of the rubber washers that are on the tightening buttons
..but these are there to prevent the buttons to fall off and get lost.
@@Steinstra-vj7wl yes, this is true and they will vibrate out without the rubber washers. However, I've gotten around this using Loctite thread locker. Use a very little amount of the blue variety and they will stay put. But its very important that only a tiny bit is used and it is of the blue variety.
@@shawnobryant9949 A device works 100%, or not: not like "it works for 90%". I don't want to spent time to "solutions" to an inherit flaw. Besides, the whole point of this device is to quickly lock, unlock, and lock again, which it won't do with glue.
@@Steinstra-vj7wl after doing this "mod" it does work 100% of the time for me. So take it or leave it, I was just trying to leave some helpful advice.
My guitar trem is not that great and it has some tunning stability issues (cheap guitar), but I do wanna use it to dive on some songs instead of fully blocking it, will this help the overall stability of the trem?
Hi, I'm afraid it wont make anything better or more stable. The "dive only" feature of the tremol-no only works fine, if the tremolo holds the tuning well on its own already. I'm sorry to disappoint you. 😬 //Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses thanks a lot for replying! Cheers
grat videos , Tremol No $60 vs Tremory $150 ?
Seems easier to screw a quarter onto the body.
does it work on normal bridges also ? not a fan of floyd rose
Is it any easier to tune and set up? Anyone?
It should. One of the easier things to do to restring and setup a floyd rose is to use a shim. so , setting the tremelono into locking position would do the same.
Will it work on all trems (where the blocks are way thicker than a floyd) or just the Floyd Roses ?
There are a few versions of the Tremol-No: one for thin trem blocks (small clamp) one for thick blocks (large clamp) and there's even one with a pin for the block, instead of a clamp. So yes, it pretty much fits all common floating trems.
//cheers, Kris
Wenn man das Tremolo mit dem Gadget blockiert kann man ja "ganz normal" umstimmen (das wäre mein Hauptgrund dafür), anders als mit nem freien System. Wie problematisch ist es, wenn man meinetwegen von Standard auf C-Tuning stimmt während das Tremolo blockiert ist und es dann mittels der Feststellschrauben wieder freigibt? Können da Schäden entstehen oder geht dann einfach nur die Stimmstabilität verloren?
even when i tighten the screws it slides like its unlocked
what if you had a big brass block? can that tremol-no accomodate it?
Bought that .. awesome
That is a cool little thing
My Generation at 3:47 😝🤘🏻
Yeah man, what a riff!!! Wes is awesome.
//cheers, Kris
Perfect this is exactly the info I needed thank you :-)
Muss das Kabel auch daran gelötet werden oder wird es nur geklemmt?
Hey, man kann das Kabel klemmen, es ist aber ein bisschen tricky. Du musst es etwas rein drücken während du die Schraube zudrehst. :) Ciao //Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Alles klar, danke