The new ‘23 models have the 4” round TFT gauge like the chief, instead of the big rectangle gauge. It looks better imo. Absolutely great looking bike. Pretty much the only Indian motorcycle I have any interest in, and I’m extremely interested in it. It’s as close to a “sport” bike as I would be willing to go, and I’m very willing to go there! If I didn’t already have a ‘21 Low Rider S, I would be all about this bike!
@@harrycrumb742I have a 23 FTR Carbon and they all have the round display now. The rallye and some others have a analog gauge. The higher trims it’s an all digital 4” display and it’s kinda meh. I preferred the 4.3
Great review, thank you! I’d consider one of these. As I get older, 64, the full blown sport bikes are getting more and more uncomfortable. I’m not sure about the Indian brand, reliability, durability, parts cost and availability. Regardless, I saw one on the street the other day, I used to run 1/2 mile, this bike caught my eye.
The FTR1200 has done a 1/2/3 position podium sweep in the MotoAmerica Super Hooligans series multiple times. This is against both KTM, Ducati and more. It is a road legal race bike and it's manners and bones prove it. The trophies do too! Just for when you need it again! "UH-KROP-OH-VEEECH" Very exotic sounding name, Akrapovic lol.
I bought a 2023 FTR1200 Carbon R and oh boy what a Hoot. I thought the stock seat was fine for short rides but long rides not so much. Thankfully Indian makes a optional comfort seat witch I bought the first week of owning the bike and it's worth every penny. What a difference. Also I bought all the Carbon bits that Indian has in there catalog. It's a Carbon R so I finished it off with all the Carbon that Indian makes. I also agree about the exhaust. To me it's ugly and way to quiet. Now I know some people think loud pipes are anoing but I've been riding on the street since I was 13. I'm 61 now. Loud pipes do save lives. Not only that I like to hear the exhaust so I know better ware my power is in gear selecting. So I will get the 50 legal S&S full system side pipes. The mirrors work very good but look very old fashioned. I think better for a retroe bike but looks out of place on the FTR1200. So I bought some black bullet mirrors from Italy. Looks much better. All in all. This bike does nothing wrong at all. Even when I screw up and have to panic brake and or move around quickly. It just dose everything right. This bike is definitely one of the most fun bikes I've ever ridden. And I've ridden hundreds of motorcycles. I strongly recommend this bike for play riding. It's that much fun.
Great review. Thx! Will be getting the 2023 Carbon when they come to Portugal next month. Also have the 2022 Indian Pursuit and it's a freaking beast on the road. Two amazing American bikes.
Great walkthrough. Öhlins pronounciation. Ö is pronounces as OE put together. It sounds close to the E in the word Her. Cheers from a Swede in North Carolina
The best FTR review out there. Not many moto reviewers have understood this bike and explained it the way you did. I own one and I 100% agree with everything you said about the bike.
Best freaking naked middleweight in the business. The other channels looking at nakeds are talking up Z-900's, MT-09's, KTM 890's but seem to avoid the FTR 1200 and I can guess why... Because I beat the shit out of all these in straight, canyons, and looks!!!!
They avoid it bc most people looking at nakeds want an upright sport bike, and the FTR is realistically a sport cruiser, and expensive and heavy for a sporty rider.
So many people talking about the straight up riding position like it's something new. Have yall not heard of a naked bike? MT09, MT10, z900, cb650, cb1000, GSXS...theres plenty
When it was suggested as Indian's Dirt Track, street, Replica made me excited. Now I think a Yamaha MT 09 SP is everything it should be for thousands less. I'd go Scout Bobber in a NY Minute.
Wonder if dude has found these things called Naked Uprights since this video so he can have an apple to compare this apple to. I'm flopping hard between FTR and MT-09 for the next daily.
tested a 2022 FTR S, rain and std mode really a waste of time, the bike in sport mode will pull cleanly from 30 mph. Awesome, low C of G gives superb handling.
I know how that throttle would compare. I'm just getting warmed up at a 7500 redline. I think that's the reason I wouldn't buy this machine. Put an inline 4 in it and we can talk. I'm just not a fan of the V twin.
I sold my 2018 CB1000R and bought the 2022 Indian FTR Carbon R. The riding position and comfort levels are really similar. Both are comfortable for 2 hour rides until you get a numb bum. (both have hard flat seats). The Indian is a clear winner on low down torque and the CB has more top end. Once you take the baffles out of the FTR the sound is hands down the winner and a big part of the enjoyment. Both are premium bikes with good quality finish and attention to detail. I love the twin cylinder grunt but hate the shit fuelling when trying to do lower speed constant throttle riding very herky jerky, grab a handful of throttle and it is intoxicating but not as scary as the CB in the top end.The FTR has cruise control but it is terrible below 55 mph , bucks you around back and forth but works well at highway speeds, no CC option for the Honda. I fitted the OEM quickshifter to the CB and it was fantastic a real game changer especially in the twisties with the hole in the torque between 4500 to 6000 rpm, bang it down a couple of gears and launch out of the corners, no quickshifter on the Indian but you don't need to change through the gears as much, as it pulls hard from about 4000 rpm in any gear. The CB has a 200 mile range and the FTR has a 120 mile range and is a pain to fill up with the design of the tiny tank. Both are great bikes, the FTR is a very visceral emotive ride and the CB is exciting when you give it the beans and it doesn't have the niggling design flaws of the FTR. Both bikes would benefit from remapping, the FTR for the jerky throttle and the CB to improve mid range torque. The Euro emission regs have negatively affected both bikes in different ways. Cheers.
Love Americans. Hilarious. I ride motorcycles. Have you heard of ohlins shocks? Akrapovic exhausts? Nope. Never heard of them. Lmao Anyway, love the ftr. Will get one into the collection some day. Just a bit worried about limited access to a dealer network in my area. Gorgeous bike though. Nailed the styling.
It's not "Americans." It's the Harley riders. That's what they ride and they don't know or care about anything else. They do their dress up costumes and they go loud and slow. Plenty of real riders in the states know what these companies are and what they make.
Ever had any seat time on any of the Ducati Diavel/XDiavels? I currently own one and it fits the "sport bike but not a sport bike" catagory like the FTRs, so I'm wondering how they compare.
The FTR is a full blown race bike, the Diavel is more of a power cruiser. The FTR enjoys stoppies, wheelies, power slides and real Hoon behavior. The Diavel will do the following, but a lot less happily lol. FTR is multi championship winning chassis in MotoAmerica. Often taking 1st, 2nd AND 3rd over KTM and Ducati.
I’m debating between both these bikes for my third one. The Xdiavel is 150hp!! I’m just scared of reliability and the money out of Ducati services. Can you chime in on how you like the Xdiavel?
I've never seen a review of this bike focosing on the fueling of the bike in real trafic jams, on the stop and go in the city. It's always in large roads with litle trafic
I don't mind the heft and the size of it. I learnt to ride on a +550lbs UJM. I particularly like the Carbon version too. HOWEVER, my only beef it's the "electric car" range (too short) on this thing if you start flogging it. Give it a 4.5 or 5.0 gallon tank and you'll have me attention. And if it's got FBW butterflies throw in there Cruise Control too.
These bikes have quite different looks and prices. Pretty sure I could just pick any one of those four bikes based on nothing but appearance be very happy.
You are way off pal. I've ridden all of those dozens of times and if you think the CB1000 i4 shares any characteristics with the V 1200 you're smoking something. It's winning races in MotoAmerica and is a fantastic American Hoon machine. It's basically a factory race/stunt bike. I work at a motorcycle dealership and I dearly love the Z900 and CB so when I say they aren't the same at all, I'm not kidding. Sure, better top end and similar chassis shapes, but thats where it ends.
Its funny. He mentions due to the brakes and weight that the ftr will stop on a dime. In the sports bike category 513lbs is a heavy sow! Also any naked sport bike is going to have a similar rider triangle to ftr. In general, its only when you get into faired sports bikes do you get the really aggressive riding position.
Close on Akropovic, it's "Uh Crop Of Itch". I got the 2022 FTR Standard 2 years ago. I was planning the Toce 2-1 full system & really loved the black/red coloring the best so decided not to pay for all the stock upgrades like the Akropovic that would've just been a waste, & I told them if the TFT was like the one on the Chief it would be more enticing, that big flat screen was kinda overkill. The suspension I'll upgrade when they need to finally be replaced. The FTR is a premium riding experience for sure though & the best bike I've ever blasted up the Utah canyon twisties on, also is my daily commuter. Highly recommended.
I’m 6 1 and 215. I have had this same one since last Nov and Love it. Different riding position then the KLR and the Roadmaster but for me way more comfortable position than a sport bike.
@@darrylwild7808I totally agree. I have a 2022 FTR 1200 R Carbon, I am 6’2 and 235 lbs and it’s a great fit for me specifically I fully can control the bike with my body/between legs and both my feet and fully touch the ground
The new ‘23 models have the 4” round TFT gauge like the chief, instead of the big rectangle gauge. It looks better imo. Absolutely great looking bike. Pretty much the only Indian motorcycle I have any interest in, and I’m extremely interested in it.
It’s as close to a “sport” bike as I would be willing to go, and I’m very willing to go there! If I didn’t already have a ‘21 Low Rider S, I would be all about this bike!
sadly they got rid of the red/maroon on the bike.. Not sure I am a fan yet.
The round ugly gauge is on the poverty pack variant
@@harrycrumb742I have a 23 FTR Carbon and they all have the round display now. The rallye and some others have a analog gauge. The higher trims it’s an all digital 4” display and it’s kinda meh. I preferred the 4.3
Great review, thank you! I’d consider one of these. As I get older, 64, the full blown sport bikes are getting more and more uncomfortable.
I’m not sure about the Indian brand, reliability, durability, parts cost and availability.
Regardless, I saw one on the street the other day, I used to run 1/2 mile, this bike caught my eye.
The FTR1200 has done a 1/2/3 position podium sweep in the MotoAmerica Super Hooligans series multiple times. This is against both KTM, Ducati and more. It is a road legal race bike and it's manners and bones prove it. The trophies do too!
Just for when you need it again!
"UH-KROP-OH-VEEECH"
Very exotic sounding name, Akrapovic lol.
I bought a 2023 FTR1200 Carbon R and oh boy what a Hoot. I thought the stock seat was fine for short rides but long rides not so much. Thankfully Indian makes a optional comfort seat witch I bought the first week of owning the bike and it's worth every penny. What a difference. Also I bought all the Carbon bits that Indian has in there catalog. It's a Carbon R so I finished it off with all the Carbon that Indian makes. I also agree about the exhaust. To me it's ugly and way to quiet. Now I know some people think loud pipes are anoing but I've been riding on the street since I was 13. I'm 61 now. Loud pipes do save lives. Not only that I like to hear the exhaust so I know better ware my power is in gear selecting. So I will get the 50 legal S&S full system side pipes. The mirrors work very good but look very old fashioned. I think better for a retroe bike but looks out of place on the FTR1200. So I bought some black bullet mirrors from Italy. Looks much better. All in all. This bike does nothing wrong at all. Even when I screw up and have to panic brake and or move around quickly. It just dose everything right. This bike is definitely one of the most fun bikes I've ever ridden. And I've ridden hundreds of motorcycles. I strongly recommend this bike for play riding. It's that much fun.
Cycle=Motorized;&Bike= Manual.
that go pro stick you got there was extremely distracting and ruined this video.
The FTR is liquid cooled.
Great review. Thx!
Will be getting the 2023 Carbon when they come to Portugal next month.
Also have the 2022 Indian Pursuit and it's a freaking beast on the road.
Two amazing American bikes.
It's not a sport bike. It's a standard. I don't think anything with a V twin is a sport bike.
I agree, it’s too heavy. It’s a sporty cruiser bc that engine is way too heavy
Great walkthrough. Öhlins pronounciation. Ö is pronounces as OE put together. It sounds close to the E in the word Her.
Cheers from a Swede in North Carolina
Oh-lins
@@joekavalauskas8767 Exactly.
YayTeam Trump;&Team-FTR.
The best FTR review out there. Not many moto reviewers have understood this bike and explained it the way you did. I own one and I 100% agree with everything you said about the bike.
I look into guns it's hegshot, I look at bikes its hegshot, what doesn't hegshot do? lol
Guess you both have good taste
@@paulstella8443 ha
They stole the frame from the Ducati Monster. I think its ugly
Oil cooled? See that big thing in front of the engine? That's a radiator... for water.
Near the end of the video, he said it is liquid cooled.
See that little thing below the big thing? That''s a radiator... for oil.
The finish he was looking to describe i think was “gun metal” for the frame
Best freaking naked middleweight in the business. The other channels looking at nakeds are talking up Z-900's, MT-09's, KTM 890's but seem to avoid the FTR 1200 and I can guess why... Because I beat the shit out of all these in straight, canyons, and looks!!!!
They avoid it bc most people looking at nakeds want an upright sport bike, and the FTR is realistically a sport cruiser, and expensive and heavy for a sporty rider.
1:05 Seat height's 30.7in, not 32in...
So many people talking about the straight up riding position like it's something new. Have yall not heard of a naked bike? MT09, MT10, z900, cb650, cb1000, GSXS...theres plenty
A motorcyclw review that doesnt know two of the most famous names in bike tuning in akra and ohlins wtf
This guy is a total poser. Way too many factual errors and lack of knowledge for what he is doing.
When it was suggested as Indian's Dirt Track, street, Replica made me excited. Now I think a Yamaha MT 09 SP is everything it should be for thousands less. I'd go Scout Bobber in a NY Minute.
Wonder if dude has found these things called Naked Uprights since this video so he can have an apple to compare this apple to. I'm flopping hard between FTR and MT-09 for the next daily.
tested a 2022 FTR S, rain and std mode really a waste of time, the bike in sport mode will pull cleanly from 30 mph. Awesome, low C of G gives superb handling.
How does this bike compare comfort wise to a CB1000R?
I’m wondering this too
I know how that throttle would compare. I'm just getting warmed up at a 7500 redline. I think that's the reason I wouldn't buy this machine. Put an inline 4 in it and we can talk. I'm just not a fan of the V twin.
I sold my 2018 CB1000R and bought the 2022 Indian FTR Carbon R. The riding position and comfort levels are really similar. Both are comfortable for 2 hour rides until you get a numb bum. (both have hard flat seats). The Indian is a clear winner on low down torque and the CB has more top end. Once you take the baffles out of the FTR the sound is hands down the winner and a big part of the enjoyment. Both are premium bikes with good quality finish and attention to detail. I love the twin cylinder grunt but hate the shit fuelling when trying to do lower speed constant throttle riding very herky jerky, grab a handful of throttle and it is intoxicating but not as scary as the CB in the top end.The FTR has cruise control but it is terrible below 55 mph , bucks you around back and forth but works well at highway speeds, no CC option for the Honda. I fitted the OEM quickshifter to the CB and it was fantastic a real game changer especially in the twisties with the hole in the torque between 4500 to 6000 rpm, bang it down a couple of gears and launch out of the corners, no quickshifter on the Indian but you don't need to change through the gears as much, as it pulls hard from about 4000 rpm in any gear. The CB has a 200 mile range and the FTR has a 120 mile range and is a pain to fill up with the design of the tiny tank. Both are great bikes, the FTR is a very visceral emotive ride and the CB is exciting when you give it the beans and it doesn't have the niggling design flaws of the FTR. Both bikes would benefit from remapping, the FTR for the jerky throttle and the CB to improve mid range torque. The Euro emission regs have negatively affected both bikes in different ways. Cheers.
Love Americans. Hilarious.
I ride motorcycles.
Have you heard of ohlins shocks? Akrapovic exhausts?
Nope. Never heard of them.
Lmao
Anyway, love the ftr. Will get one into the collection some day. Just a bit worried about limited access to a dealer network in my area. Gorgeous bike though. Nailed the styling.
It's not "Americans." It's the Harley riders. That's what they ride and they don't know or care about anything else. They do their dress up costumes and they go loud and slow. Plenty of real riders in the states know what these companies are and what they make.
@@nitemareman1 Fair enough. You got me there.
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Ever had any seat time on any of the Ducati Diavel/XDiavels? I currently own one and it fits the "sport bike but not a sport bike" catagory like the FTRs, so I'm wondering how they compare.
The FTR is a full blown race bike, the Diavel is more of a power cruiser. The FTR enjoys stoppies, wheelies, power slides and real Hoon behavior. The Diavel will do the following, but a lot less happily lol.
FTR is multi championship winning chassis in MotoAmerica. Often taking 1st, 2nd AND 3rd over KTM and Ducati.
I’m debating between both these bikes for my third one. The Xdiavel is 150hp!! I’m just scared of reliability and the money out of Ducati services.
Can you chime in on how you like the Xdiavel?
akropoviç
Soft a, krop of itch
Is the heat generated by the engine unbearable? Great video otherwise!
The exhause is fine. Just needs decat and/or baffles removed
Apparently, you haven’t ridden any of those bikes.
I've never seen a review of this bike focosing on the fueling of the bike in real trafic jams, on the stop and go in the city. It's always in large roads with litle trafic
"Fueling" gets a bad rap often. The fact is, fuel injection will never be as smooth as a carb, no matter how smooth it's tuned.
I don't mind the heft and the size of it. I learnt to ride on a +550lbs UJM.
I particularly like the Carbon version too.
HOWEVER, my only beef it's the "electric car" range (too short) on this thing if you start flogging it.
Give it a 4.5 or 5.0 gallon tank and you'll have me attention.
And if it's got FBW butterflies throw in there Cruise Control too.
I'm fairly certain it has cruise
A big Ho hum. Not much different then the Honda CB1000R, Kawasaki Z900RS Cafe, and Yamaha XSR900. Just the engine
These bikes have quite different looks and prices. Pretty sure I could just pick any one of those four bikes based on nothing but appearance be very happy.
You are way off pal. I've ridden all of those dozens of times and if you think the CB1000 i4 shares any characteristics with the V 1200 you're smoking something.
It's winning races in MotoAmerica and is a fantastic American Hoon machine. It's basically a factory race/stunt bike. I work at a motorcycle dealership and I dearly love the Z900 and CB so when I say they aren't the same at all, I'm not kidding. Sure, better top end and similar chassis shapes, but thats where it ends.
Oil cooled? The oil cooler on the bike below the radiator is the oil cooler for the transmission.
A-crapo-vich
What about the BMW R19T?
Its funny. He mentions due to the brakes and weight that the ftr will stop on a dime. In the sports bike category 513lbs is a heavy sow! Also any naked sport bike is going to have a similar rider triangle to ftr. In general, its only when you get into faired sports bikes do you get the really aggressive riding position.
Close on Akropovic, it's "Uh Crop Of Itch". I got the 2022 FTR Standard 2 years ago. I was planning the Toce 2-1 full system & really loved the black/red coloring the best so decided not to pay for all the stock upgrades like the Akropovic that would've just been a waste, & I told them if the TFT was like the one on the Chief it would be more enticing, that big flat screen was kinda overkill. The suspension I'll upgrade when they need to finally be replaced. The FTR is a premium riding experience for sure though & the best bike I've ever blasted up the Utah canyon twisties on, also is my daily commuter. Highly recommended.
A crap o witch 😅
Is this bike to small for a 225+ 6’2” man?
I’m 6 1 and 215. I have had this same one since last Nov and Love it. Different riding position then the KLR and the Roadmaster but for me way more comfortable position than a sport bike.
@@darrylwild7808I totally agree. I have a 2022 FTR 1200 R Carbon, I am 6’2 and 235 lbs and it’s a great fit for me specifically I fully can control the bike with my body/between legs and both my feet and fully touch the ground
I thought the petrol tank was under the seat and where the fuel tank is is actually an air intake box?
you are correct