I'm only 15 minutes in and I'm in shock that this doesn't have more views. The video is well crafted and clearly took a ton of effort. It also taught me things I didn't know about previous games!
@@Slav69k lol .. Tekken has more than double the number of players mortal Kombat has on steam Tekken has 6k active players .. mk has 2.5k .. even though tekken 7 is a 6 year old game while mk is much more recent (3 year old) .. now pick which one is dead 😂
Excellent video, but I gotta say 2nd most broken move: easy zero to death loop, banned from tournaments 1st most broken move: "it wasn't *completely* busted"
The reason why The number one move is that way is because imagine a unblockable juggle combo with nasty damage coming from a game where juggle combos and regular combos have been nerfed. Plus you can't really backdash to get away from him Sense movement has been nerfed in that game
Shirdel. This took me a few days to finish between work and stuff, but my goodness. This is a masterpiece. Thank you for all of the work you put into this. THIS is truly the standard. Proud to be subbed to you man
I think one of the more useful aspects of this list is how it delves into the interplay of how moves in Tekken work, or the "rules" as you called them, and how these moves represent a significant enough departure from that to be noteworthy.
Balanced games tend to give everyone a tool you’d want. Good tools being removed is a sign of an unbalanced game because someone will always get lucky in that regard compared to making sure everyone has at least one move on contention for best in the game.
As a kid, Nina and Anna's "f,f+4" was the bane of my playthroughs. That and Jack/Prototype Jack/Kuma/Ganryu's "Hammer Rush" where if the first hit connects, the other four are essentially guaranteed.
I agree Just Frame Lazer Scraper is top 2, but I feel Tekken 5 Steve 3 1 1 was worse because it was literally a win the game button with no effort. Being able to step and then do it for extra movement just made it even easier to catch someone with.
@@Raver-1601 well to be fair the JFLS wasn't banned cuz technically it kinda impossible to ban it cuz unlike Steve's infinite its a normal string while Steve's infinite comes from a stance so you can just ban the stance
@@tcbbctagain572 I disagree, banning the stance is much more difficult and ruining to a character because you ban multiple moves instead of just one. Banning JFLC would be as simple as banning the Just Frame, not the string or even the unblockable.
@@shiekastate well in Steve's case, banning the stance didn't really ruin or hurt him did it 😂 Btw as far as im concerned that stance in tekken 5 only had 2 moves, 1 was basically useless the other was the infinite, so you really didn't ban multiple moves. While for jin if you're gonna ban a string you might as well just ban the character. At the end of the day both were quite ridiculously broken that broke the game, pick your poison
as much as this video is about a year old or so, it's great to see a list as long and as detailed as this. tha passion for the game is shown and the jokes land well and rewards someone who actually watches rather than just putting it in the background and listening to the details.
Kind of surprised my beloved Kazumi's original df1 wasn't even at the bottom. From what I've heard and seen, that move had way more range than a safe mid poke should.
This is an exceptionally well-produced video. Don’t know when it’ll happen but hope the algo picks it up and sends it well into half a million views and beyond.
I think Tekken 7 Dragunov's 3,1 into Sneak deserved to be on at least honorable mentions, it was only available for two weeks but gave Dragunov probably the best wall carry in the game.
I felt so accomplished for some reason when I guessed 7 out of the top 10 lmao Amazing video btw - Really wish this had more views. Must've taken ages to make!
wow a 2 hour video on only tekken moves. this isnt a thing i thought i wanted but im all here for it. the only op moves i really know about jins op lazer scraper from 4, kings df,1 in tekken 1 and steves infinite in tekken 5. really cool hearing about other op moves i didnt know about.
Although lei's new sna 4,1 is really good, it's not a forced 50/50 launch mix on hit like you say. It's only +4 so it can be interrupted by a dickjab on hit which adds a third option to the mix.
Excellent video mate! Having competed in Tekken 3, and subsequently dropping off and only playing Tekken casually since, this is quite fascinating to watch. Tekken has really changed over the years. Not always for the better.
Tekken 2 Bruce was busted. His strings did a lot of damage and were natural most of the time. His f 4,3,4 or b, 4,3,4 enders did insane damage because damage scaling still wasn't that much of a thing in T2. He was a beast in T2 and the redesign (replacement) into Bryan was pretty well received.
Amazing video brother man. Great quality as always. Please keep up the competitive history as well. One of my favorite series. I would love a Kazuya,Marduk, and Paul
What an incredibly well put together video. I had my guess, and I was surprised it ended up as number 2 instead of number 1, since there's still defense options against number 1.
@@yoshimallow This is my question too. Because getting used to a just frame move definitely takes a lot more time, patience and effort to master than a well-timed sidestep whiff punish, let alone a sidestep move that leads to a guaranteed KO. So I agree; while T4 JFLS is busted, T5 DS is even more so in my opinion.
Everyone who's been a part of making this video deserves respect man! I think LAW'S DRAGON TAIL deserved to be on the list too. But pretty good list! 🔥🤘🏼
I'm fully expecting this video to blow up in the near future. The effort, research and passion that went into this is really heartwarming to see, and it was an incredibly entertaining watch. I love learning about the scummiest moves in Tekken history and there were so many on here I hadn't even heard of. Some were borderline jaw dropping. Can I ask what the rationale was for Nina's T4 1+4 not cracking the top 100 was? I know it's pretty tame compared to mids that launch on block, but I did expect to see it sitting smugly around the mid point, just for doing pretty much everything
@@Shirdel Ah fair enough =) I guess even free pokes on hit aren't really that insane when stacked against touch of death launchers, round ending oki loops and guaranteed unblockables haha TYSM for replying! ^-^
Bellísimo trabajo. Me fascina ver una investigación tan profunda y elaborada. Agradezco mucho por colaborar con una labor tan encomiable para la comunidad de Tekken. Eres grande, bro. Saludos desde Perú
I honestly miss Laser Scraper/Annihilator.. not that I actually use it much. I just love the T3 Movement Animation. As much as I loved T5, I was really bummed out that Jin replaced a Majority of his fighting Move/ments on there.
Leroy doing the Ip Man hands on a fucking chainsaw is just hysterical. Slowly working my way through this a bit at a time. This is absolute gold, super entertaining and easy to watch.
REALLY bold move to put 2D-jump in number 3, given how little people seem to talk about it. I barely know anything about it and its properties myself, and you're the first person I've heard bring it up as problematic. Amazing work on this video, so much depth and worthwhile commentary :)
Against top #3 there is simple solution plug at loading screen when you see these characters remember when they touch you from jump they deal 100% dmg to you but when you somehow attack them while they are in the air they take reduced dmg how is that fair ?
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“When Geese is waking up, you’re in his Okizeme” I spit out my coffee
Not gonna lie, this video is amazing and well put together! Thanks
@@ehsun7822 Just let the man give a compliment god damn bro
Tekken Series can still be in Popularity Culture with just Main Canonical Storyline Fighting Game Franchise by just Namco
I'm only 15 minutes in and I'm in shock that this doesn't have more views. The video is well crafted and clearly took a ton of effort. It also taught me things I didn't know about previous games!
dead franchise
@@sashagreysfatass8439 its the biggest fighting game in the world?? What??
@@louiewag9343 yea tekken is kinda dead mortal Kombat is more famous
The value of this video is immense. It certainly has the documentary spirit.
@@Slav69k lol .. Tekken has more than double the number of players mortal Kombat has on steam
Tekken has 6k active players .. mk has 2.5k .. even though tekken 7 is a 6 year old game while mk is much more recent (3 year old) .. now pick which one is dead 😂
Excellent video, but I gotta say
2nd most broken move: easy zero to death loop, banned from tournaments
1st most broken move: "it wasn't *completely* busted"
Just goes to show Tekken 4 on top 🗣🗣🗣
The reason why The number one move is that way is because imagine a unblockable juggle combo with nasty damage coming from a game where juggle combos and regular combos have been nerfed. Plus you can't really backdash to get away from him Sense movement has been nerfed in that game
Shirdel. This took me a few days to finish between work and stuff, but my goodness. This is a masterpiece. Thank you for all of the work you put into this. THIS is truly the standard. Proud to be subbed to you man
I think one of the more useful aspects of this list is how it delves into the interplay of how moves in Tekken work, or the "rules" as you called them, and how these moves represent a significant enough departure from that to be noteworthy.
Funny how "the most balanced tekken ever" occupies 36 spots out of 100 in this list
Yeah like damn near half the list has Tekken 7 moves which says a lot about the game to be honest
@@ikedatike2533 yeah, because half of them are nerfed XD
“If everyone’s broken, no one will be”
Balanced games tend to give everyone a tool you’d want. Good tools being removed is a sign of an unbalanced game because someone will always get lucky in that regard compared to making sure everyone has at least one move on contention for best in the game.
As a kid, Nina and Anna's "f,f+4" was the bane of my playthroughs.
That and Jack/Prototype Jack/Kuma/Ganryu's "Hammer Rush" where if the first hit connects, the other four are essentially guaranteed.
I agree Just Frame Lazer Scraper is top 2, but I feel Tekken 5 Steve 3 1 1 was worse because it was literally a win the game button with no effort. Being able to step and then do it for extra movement just made it even easier to catch someone with.
Yeah. There's a reason why JFLS isn't banned but 3 1 1 is banned
@@Raver-1601 well to be fair the JFLS wasn't banned cuz technically it kinda impossible to ban it cuz unlike Steve's infinite its a normal string while Steve's infinite comes from a stance so you can just ban the stance
At the end of the day it's basically pick your poison
@@tcbbctagain572 I disagree, banning the stance is much more difficult and ruining to a character because you ban multiple moves instead of just one. Banning JFLC would be as simple as banning the Just Frame, not the string or even the unblockable.
@@shiekastate well in Steve's case, banning the stance didn't really ruin or hurt him did it 😂
Btw as far as im concerned that stance in tekken 5 only had 2 moves, 1 was basically useless the other was the infinite, so you really didn't ban multiple moves.
While for jin if you're gonna ban a string you might as well just ban the character.
At the end of the day both were quite ridiculously broken that broke the game, pick your poison
This is an incredibly well put video. I enjoyed it till the end.
EXCELLENT CONTENT! 10, 20 years from now it's going to be so cool to look back at this video
The only thing I disagree with this list is that #1 and #2 should be swapped. Everything else is one of the greatest videos ever made.
AK handcuffs are hilarious, lmfao. Excellent, well-put together video man!
Best part is how many guests you had on to give expert opinions. Excellent video!
as much as this video is about a year old or so, it's great to see a list as long and as detailed as this.
tha passion for the game is shown and the jokes land well and rewards someone who actually watches rather than just putting it in the background and listening to the details.
35:36 the wolf in the background ran over to devil Jin like: "Yo you good?!" 🤣
bro joey talking about jacks fcdb1 kills me everytime. great video man, much love and take it easy.
I mean... We already knew that T5 Steve and T4 Jin will take the top 2 spots but it's interesting to find out what the other 98 were. Nice vid
Kind of surprised my beloved Kazumi's original df1 wasn't even at the bottom. From what I've heard and seen, that move had way more range than a safe mid poke should.
Well the only thing that was absurd about her d/f1 was the range. The frames on both hit and block were the same as nowadays
@@tcbbctagain572 No it wasn't. It was -1 on block
Such a well made video, deserves recognition💯
This is an exceptionally well-produced video. Don’t know when it’ll happen but hope the algo picks it up and sends it well into half a million views and beyond.
Thank you for the video and your time. Had a really good time watching it.
thought it very strange to see this pop up on my feed. great video, i hope youre doing well! -Damien.
Wow, what a Research! Very nice video
I guessed the top 2 moves, but in the wrong order. Amazing video!!!
Holy shit dude this is quite the project! I LOVE that you did this! Great work!
I think Tekken 7 Dragunov's 3,1 into Sneak deserved to be on at least honorable mentions, it was only available for two weeks but gave Dragunov probably the best wall carry in the game.
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This is the kind of video I dream to encounter, well pace and edited while being very long
I was right with number one :D. tanks for vid dude!
This video is incredibly well made, honestly a Top 5 Tekken video I've ever watched, thank you.
I really appreciate the variety of different move explanations
Especially since I'm one of those who watched it I'm one sitting
Great video, i waswaiting for the 2 or so moves i knew to show up. Not surprised with how much the last T7 season DLC showed up.
18:21 oh man, I miss Steve's junkyard 😔
Great content btw. Awesome production value. Concepts that are thrown in the mix are really explained well 👌
I felt so accomplished for some reason when I guessed 7 out of the top 10 lmao
Amazing video btw - Really wish this had more views. Must've taken ages to make!
wow a 2 hour video on only tekken moves. this isnt a thing i thought i wanted but im all here for it. the only op moves i really know about jins op lazer scraper from 4, kings df,1 in tekken 1 and steves infinite in tekken 5. really cool hearing about other op moves i didnt know about.
Although lei's new sna 4,1 is really good, it's not a forced 50/50 launch mix on hit like you say. It's only +4 so it can be interrupted by a dickjab on hit which adds a third option to the mix.
and to add onto this, TGR 2,2 is hardly hitconfirmable. but good video nonetheless!
They buffed it to +5 later.
that was the most original ad I ever saw :D thumbs up!
I cannöt believe I just have watched the whole thing in one go xD
Really good video. Thanks,
2 hours of sheer work and honestly, that is the best yt video ive watched lately, sad it has only about 20k views
Wow, this is extremely underrated. Amazing content and quality!
10 minutes in. Great way pacing the moves and explaining the brokenness. Lots of tekken knowledge I didn't know before. Keep it up!
Can't imagine how much work went into this.
Nice. Found you because ICFC and the tekken iceberg video, thanks for the great content. Greetings from germany.
You are a legend for making this video
It's amazing to see the TekInput font being used in such video. Glad to see it's being useful
Excellent video mate!
Having competed in Tekken 3, and subsequently dropping off and only playing Tekken casually since, this is quite fascinating to watch. Tekken has really changed over the years. Not always for the better.
i usually forget that the Subscribe buttons exist, but when i saw 10.7k i couldn't let that stand, nice vidya man, you deserve more subs!
Tekken 2 Bruce was busted. His strings did a lot of damage and were natural most of the time. His f 4,3,4 or b, 4,3,4 enders did insane damage because damage scaling still wasn't that much of a thing in T2. He was a beast in T2 and the redesign (replacement) into Bryan was pretty well received.
Very well produced vid of my fav fighting game, well done bro
You Sir, are a hidden Gem in the Tekken community!!
Amazing work!.. keep it up!!!!
Loved the Vid!!
👏 👏 👏
Bless you for putting all the work into this
Amazing video brother man. Great quality as always. Please keep up the competitive history as well. One of my favorite series. I would love a Kazuya,Marduk, and Paul
Fantastic video. Great deep dive into forgotten tech with really well done presentation.
Just watched the whole video, you made a fantastic job.
This video is incredible and very fun to watch, thank you! I would love to see a cut of this with only tekken 7 moves
This kind of video sounds too good to be true, but here we are. Thank you so much! Subscribed
Nearly 2 hours? Damn.
This is some good stuff.
Absolutely phenomenal video! Fantastic job!
Never seen your channel before, great video, love seeing really high effort tekken content
great focus on explaining why seemingly innocuous moves are overpowered while giving clearly annoying/OP moves less time
i watched the entire thing, i love the interviews and the history behind some of them.
Congrats on this monumental effort...
Fantastic video. It even gave me back some of my self-esteem, dignity and humanity when you confirmed those damn 2d jumps DO evade highs!
Thank you very much! This was very entertaining to watch. 2 hours well spent :)
37:05 parallel to the bongs!!! Hahaha this was a great idea for a video.
What an incredibly well put together video. I had my guess, and I was surprised it ended up as number 2 instead of number 1, since there's still defense options against number 1.
Exactly the same here. My reason being along the lines of comparative ease of execution.
Also In Tekken 10
@@DrEcho Wouldn't that mean that T5 Steve would take the top spot since it's relatively easy to do?
@@yoshimallow This is my question too. Because getting used to a just frame move definitely takes a lot more time, patience and effort to master than a well-timed sidestep whiff punish, let alone a sidestep move that leads to a guaranteed KO. So I agree; while T4 JFLS is busted, T5 DS is even more so in my opinion.
@@ArcienPlaysGamesThat and Jin's laser scraper had a SEMBLANCE of counterplay. Not Steve, though
#2 and #1 need to switch.
very poggers list, nice video dude
Alright, let's watch this movie.
holy shit this is great keep up the great work
Sick video mate, watching this for the second time now
One of the best tekken videos I've ever seen. Is there a list for the 100 moves?
Everyone who's been a part of making this video deserves respect man! I think LAW'S DRAGON TAIL deserved to be on the list too. But pretty good list! 🔥🤘🏼
Best 1hour+ vid I've seen on Tekken content!
I'm fully expecting this video to blow up in the near future. The effort, research and passion that went into this is really heartwarming to see, and it was an incredibly entertaining watch. I love learning about the scummiest moves in Tekken history and there were so many on here I hadn't even heard of. Some were borderline jaw dropping.
Can I ask what the rationale was for Nina's T4 1+4 not cracking the top 100 was? I know it's pretty tame compared to mids that launch on block, but I did expect to see it sitting smugly around the mid point, just for doing pretty much everything
It is a very spammable oppressive move, but the reward on hit/CH isn't as cheap as moves on the list. It did get an honourable mention!
@@Shirdel Ah fair enough =) I guess even free pokes on hit aren't really that insane when stacked against touch of death launchers, round ending oki loops and guaranteed unblockables haha
TYSM for replying! ^-^
Awesome video. Favorite video of the week
Great hard work! saw the entire video and loved it!
Bellísimo trabajo. Me fascina ver una investigación tan profunda y elaborada. Agradezco mucho por colaborar con una labor tan encomiable para la comunidad de Tekken. Eres grande, bro. Saludos desde Perú
gem of a video
Crazy video. You always make quality stuff. Great video!
I honestly miss Laser Scraper/Annihilator.. not that I actually use it much. I just love the T3 Movement Animation. As much as I loved T5, I was really bummed out that Jin replaced a Majority of his fighting Move/ments on there.
Well done man! Amazing video 🔥
Amazing work as always!
Leroy doing the Ip Man hands on a fucking chainsaw is just hysterical. Slowly working my way through this a bit at a time. This is absolute gold, super entertaining and easy to watch.
I learned so much. Game has been deep since the beginning
This looks a whole adventure I’ll have to dedicate some time to and I’m ready for it
This is the Tekken content I like to see, this is awesome.
13:00 that man's tekken skill was so dangerous, they had to put a tracking biceplet on him
This really interesting
I hope we can get more in the future
REALLY bold move to put 2D-jump in number 3, given how little people seem to talk about it. I barely know anything about it and its properties myself, and you're the first person I've heard bring it up as problematic.
Amazing work on this video, so much depth and worthwhile commentary :)
Sick editing !
If you love Tekken, it's worth watching the whole thing.
14:50 Gandido is so articulated. You cant almost hear no "Uhmm" or "ah"
the crushing on Lars u/f3 in tekken 6 was hilariously broken, it was basically an invincible uppercut from street fighter haha, great video
This was a joy to watch! Well done!
I guessed a few of the top 10 shoutout to TMM for that lore.
I wonder what Tekken 8 moves would be fitting here, I’m sure there’s at least 10-20 for sure
Against top #3 there is simple solution plug at loading screen when you see these characters remember when they touch you from jump they deal 100% dmg to you but when you somehow attack them while they are in the air they take reduced dmg how is that fair ?
Great video!!!
7 minutes in, seems like a good video so far, nicely reasoned. Expecting T1 King's d1 to be top 5.
Nah AK's df1 is better because of his toolset.
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@@blazerspitter2068 it's the exact same move