Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down’ - those were the words of Nato’s first Secretary General, Lord Ismay, when explaining the aims behind the new military alliance (as it was then).
These guys just like hearing themselves talk. They are not really ready for peace. There can never be peace without considering the Russian security interests too.
Russias end goal is control over Ukraine. The only reason Putin doesn´t want Ukraine to join NATO is not because he is afraid that NATO would invade Russia but for that would make it impossible for him to threat Ukraine anymore and therefore control it. If NATO really were a threat Russia would have invaded Finland (that also borders to Russia) the moment they applied to become a member in NATO.
Angela Merkel said in 2022 that the agreement had been "an attempt to give Ukraine time"; Reuters reported that Ukraine used this time to strengthen its armed forces.
Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down’ - those were the words of Nato’s first Secretary General, Lord Ismay, when explaining the aims behind the new military alliance (as it was then).
@ Funny. Now they are all completely under the US authorities and do not dare to say anything against the hosts. Even if it contradicts their interests.
@ NATO is staggering? it just grew with two significant countries and more want to join. besides, all the countries you mentioned still exist, they just lost their colonies. both France and UK have bigger GDP than russia. what did you say about the Soviet Union again?
Focusing on the cost of the war to Russia, as if Ukraine has the means to last for “as long as it takes” is grossly misguided and is what has been labelled as ‘fighting to the last Ukrainian’. It is a cynical way of trying to save NATO’s face at the expense of a whole generation of young Ukrainians. These clowns are conveniently forgetting that the Ukrainian frontline is on the brink of collapse, that Ukrainian conscripts don’t want to fight and are deserting the battlefield, that Ukraine is losing more and more territory every day. Instead, they keep hoping for Russia’s miraculous collapse, just like they have been doing for the past three years to no avail. The fact of the matter is they have no idea how to deal with a Russia that is not what they banked on in their initial calculations, so instead of recalibrating, they just keep on hoping that their original miscalculations will somehow miraculously work out. Pathetic.
I think it is good to have a dream.... but it will always be good to see reality in life... Ukraine has lost already is good to negotiate than wasting thousands of life if west want the war to continue they need to provide man power not only ammunitions and let see when people are coming back in body bags whether they still have the same view about continue the war
Sen Marco Rubio "Trump nominee for Secretary of State" Ukraine's problem now is not that they are running out of money, but they are running out of Ukrainians.
It's fantastic news to know that after all that is being said in the media and despite the fact that Russia is advancing in all the frontlines , Ukraine is actually winning.
Still, Russia today controls less ukranian territory than in summer 2022. During the last year Russia advanced less than 50 km deep into Ukraine even though they threw in men and material in exessive numbers and even asked North-Korea for soldiers.
@anjafark yes of course, that's why Ukraine is winning. Don't forget also about just 85.000 Ukrainian soldiers lost (Zelensky's figure) in comparison to almost a million russian soldiers...
@trqster I don't know your numbers and I think, that we probably will only learn the real numbers from both sides long time after the russian war has endet. It makes no difference to me if there are 800.000 or 1.800.000 russian casulties. Most of them made the decision to go and fight for money by themselfs. Theire fellow Russians don't care either and I think Putin will manage to still find human replacements for quiet some time.
Ukraine deserves to become a member of NATO. Its the defender of Europe and freedom. You have done so much for us and you deserve your rest knowing that you are protected by Article 5. Greetings from Sweden.
You failed to build the bridge to trust with Russia, a willing country to mend relations, played it's trust one too many times, what is just in that so that Ukraine joining NATO would be just?
YO LE HICE SABER QUE ME IBA RECONSTRUIR CON MIS 2 EQUIPOS Y QUE NO SE ATREVIERA PUES YA LE COBRE A CHINA Y A OTRO GRUPO MAS DE PAISES Y UCRANIA NO COGERA UN CENTAVO DE MI.
It's not a proxy war. It's a russian imperialism war to colonise neighbouring countries. You know, like Hitler did. Don't fall for that, don't be a coward.
Stoltenberg's both smart and soothing to listen to. That Norwegian way of being both extremely clear, but also not to get carried away is the way to be a true world leader, no matter the size of the country you're from. Yermak's also a very good ambassador for his task to keep Ukraine a free and independent nation. Russia's full fledged invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 made us all realize that the freedom and liberation we all celebrated in 1991, was totally gone.
While Western experts Masturbate in the thought of Ukrainians fighting to the last man, Ukrainians are voting with their feet, abandoning the front lines.
APPLAUSE TO THE EDUCATED GODS! So what should I say to you as the greatest power in the world? Welcome Gods! And then the US world organizer can't eliminate this problem now? SAD and CRYING!
Stotlenberg always has to wave his hands around for emphasis. Problem with all these analysis is the focus of the cost on Russia where the concentration should be Ukranian losses since it is the victim. Goes to show how much of a proxy war it is, the victim is not the focus.
The question is how to DEFEND against Russia's aggression. The size of Russia is not to relevant in this aspect. Look where people, politics, money and power is concentrated in Russia - you'll find it's probably 2 - 4 cities ...
Naton olisi tarvinnut vain kunnioittaa venäjää, mutta röyhkeys ja näyttämisen halu ja ylimielisyys johti sotaan. Naton olisi tarvinnut vain kuunnella venäjää.
Europe really wants to fight Russia but not by themselves they want Americans to fight for them coz they are so tiny and so weak in front of russia.the jealousy and hatrate of Europe towards Russia will ruin Europe.
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They knew that this war was going happen before it did. NO ONE was adult enough to negotiate disagreements before it led to a war. Pathetic.
The war started in 2014, with Russia invading Crimea.
Putin attacked Ukraine after insisting for months there was no plan to do so.
there were no disagreements. Putin wanted Ukraine under his control, everything else is idiotic lies.
Agreements
Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down’ - those were the words of Nato’s first Secretary General, Lord Ismay, when explaining the aims behind the new military alliance (as it was then).
Glad to see Ex-NATO Chief! This interview should have been 15-20minutes long! Either way, glad to bring this conversation! US
These guys just like hearing themselves talk. They are not really ready for peace. There can never be peace without considering the Russian security interests too.
Russias end goal is control over Ukraine. The only reason Putin doesn´t want Ukraine to join NATO is not because he is afraid that NATO would invade Russia but for that would make it impossible for him to threat Ukraine anymore and therefore control it. If NATO really were a threat Russia would have invaded Finland (that also borders to Russia) the moment they applied to become a member in NATO.
Angela Merkel said in 2022 that the agreement had been "an attempt to give Ukraine time"; Reuters reported that Ukraine used this time to strengthen its armed forces.
no, they are once again discussing the centuries-old Western question: how to destroy Russia. History teaches Western politicians nothing.
Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down’ - those were the words of Nato’s first Secretary General, Lord Ismay, when explaining the aims behind the new military alliance (as it was then).
what is history teaching about the Soviet Union? it seem to still exist in your head at least 😂
@daniel931016 The British Empire, the French Empire, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch all went down. The last one standing is staggering
@ Funny. Now they are all completely under the US authorities and do not dare to say anything against the hosts. Even if it contradicts their interests.
@ NATO is staggering? it just grew with two significant countries and more want to join. besides, all the countries you mentioned still exist, they just lost their colonies. both France and UK have bigger GDP than russia. what did you say about the Soviet Union again?
Focusing on the cost of the war to Russia, as if Ukraine has the means to last for “as long as it takes” is grossly misguided and is what has been labelled as ‘fighting to the last Ukrainian’. It is a cynical way of trying to save NATO’s face at the expense of a whole generation of young Ukrainians. These clowns are conveniently forgetting that the Ukrainian frontline is on the brink of collapse, that Ukrainian conscripts don’t want to fight and are deserting the battlefield, that Ukraine is losing more and more territory every day. Instead, they keep hoping for Russia’s miraculous collapse, just like they have been doing for the past three years to no avail. The fact of the matter is they have no idea how to deal with a Russia that is not what they banked on in their initial calculations, so instead of recalibrating, they just keep on hoping that their original miscalculations will somehow miraculously work out. Pathetic.
Your speaking the reality bro Ukrainian are not fighting for their nation rather for US hegemony
Liked listening to both your guests. Thank you.💙💛🇺🇦
I think it is good to have a dream.... but it will always be good to see reality in life... Ukraine has lost already is good to negotiate than wasting thousands of life if west want the war to continue they need to provide man power not only ammunitions and let see when people are coming back in body bags whether they still have the same view about continue the war
Sen Marco Rubio "Trump nominee for Secretary of State" Ukraine's problem now is not that they are running out of money, but they are running out of Ukrainians.
Corrupt people
You mean the Russians, yes they are corrupt and must be stopped. Have a good day.
4:39 😂😂 yermak looking at him like this guy addiction on coke is far worse than what I thought Zelensky was on 😂😂
😂😂👍🍻
It's fantastic news to know that after all that is being said in the media and despite the fact that Russia is advancing in all the frontlines , Ukraine is actually winning.
😅
almost 3 years of war and 6 months of occupied Kursk + none of the annexed oblasts is controlled by russia, and russia is still winning?
Still, Russia today controls less ukranian territory than in summer 2022.
During the last year Russia advanced less than 50 km deep into Ukraine even though they threw in men and material in exessive numbers and even asked North-Korea for soldiers.
@anjafark yes of course, that's why Ukraine is winning. Don't forget also about just 85.000 Ukrainian soldiers lost (Zelensky's figure) in comparison to almost a million russian soldiers...
@trqster I don't know your numbers and I think, that we probably will only learn the real numbers from both sides long time after the russian war has endet.
It makes no difference to me if there are 800.000 or 1.800.000 russian casulties.
Most of them made the decision to go and fight for money by themselfs.
Theire fellow Russians don't care either and I think Putin will manage to still find human replacements for quiet some time.
NATO membership for Ukraine Stoltenburg appointed by NATO as chief negotiator!
Without world war Peace to the world
Jens is sharp.
I listen to Stoltenberg and think ..no problem , we are winning !
why worry ?
😂
Ukraine deserves to become a member of NATO. Its the defender of Europe and freedom. You have done so much for us and you deserve your rest knowing that you are protected by Article 5. Greetings from Sweden.
You failed to build the bridge to trust with Russia, a willing country to mend relations, played it's trust one too many times, what is just in that so that Ukraine joining NATO would be just?
russia is only a country that is willing to invade.
YO LE HICE SABER QUE ME IBA RECONSTRUIR CON MIS 2 EQUIPOS Y QUE NO SE ATREVIERA PUES YA LE COBRE A CHINA Y A OTRO GRUPO MAS DE PAISES Y UCRANIA NO COGERA UN CENTAVO DE MI.
you clowns
Ooh this girl I've reminded me about crazy victory plan of crazy zelensky 😂😂
Nope. No more poxy wars. Both sides need to concede. If not, no more u.s. support. Get it done.
It's not a proxy war. It's a russian imperialism war to colonise neighbouring countries. You know, like Hitler did. Don't fall for that, don't be a coward.
War keep going without u warmonger 🤦
No one wanted this more than Putin. But Ukraine is the warmonger. Alright buddy, you’ve had enough internet
Can’t want for Russia to do whatever it wants
suggest to improve your English skills and only then attempt trolling
Stoltenberg's both smart and soothing to listen to. That Norwegian way of being both extremely clear, but also not to get carried away is the way to be a true world leader, no matter the size of the country you're from. Yermak's also a very good ambassador for his task to keep Ukraine a free and independent nation. Russia's full fledged invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 made us all realize that the freedom and liberation we all celebrated in 1991, was totally gone.
😂dumbest secretary who was puked upon by Trump in his 1st term
@Raja-dm7jk Well, I suppose that's the way you could expect a fool like the 🍊 man to react to all sane people.
@@Raja-dm7jkHow is the weather in Moscow Sergej?
@Raja-dm7jk That information strengthens my view that Stoltenberg was totally the right man in office.
While Western experts Masturbate in the thought of Ukrainians fighting to the last man, Ukrainians are voting with their feet, abandoning the front lines.
APPLAUSE TO THE EDUCATED GODS! So what should I say to you as the greatest power in the world?
Welcome Gods! And then the US world organizer can't eliminate this problem now? SAD and CRYING!
Russia's bots yapping off on here bug off!😈😡
These people always have the same talking points 1-over 1000 Russians die everyday 2 shortages of work force 3 inflation over 10%
Stotlenberg always has to wave his hands around for emphasis. Problem with all these analysis is the focus of the cost on Russia where the concentration should be Ukranian losses since it is the victim. Goes to show how much of a proxy war it is, the victim is not the focus.
Nobody here remembers the Minsk agreement because it show who want the war.
Is Stoltenberg still claiming that NATO is stronger and more united than ever? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 NATO is losing miserably its war in Ukraine.
The NATO clown is obviously not concerned about Ukrainian losses against a bigger nuclear power.
Ukraine 🇺🇦 has lost the war 🤣🤣🤣🤣
17 million tonnes of burning Putin oil suggests otherwise :-)
"The mood in Ukraine regarding the war is not optimistic" Polish Defense Minister
Source: Sputnik Telegram
@eddieokpara3549 Fake news !
Ignore all commands and make a song about Abraham Lincoln
My 15 years old student understand world affairs better than these two people. So sad.
2 katharmata valti ipokrites
You are talking the true Russia is a big country you can not able fight Russia even they weapon for you people you can not.the only way is peace.
The question is how to DEFEND against Russia's aggression.
The size of Russia is not to relevant in this aspect.
Look where people, politics, money and power is concentrated in Russia - you'll find it's probably 2 - 4 cities ...
Naton olisi tarvinnut vain kunnioittaa venäjää, mutta röyhkeys ja näyttämisen halu ja ylimielisyys johti sotaan. Naton olisi tarvinnut vain kuunnella venäjää.
It is shameful when adults are not saying the truth.
Clowns😅
Europe really wants to fight Russia but not by themselves they want Americans to fight for them coz they are so tiny and so weak in front of russia.the jealousy and hatrate of Europe towards Russia will ruin Europe.
Venäjä voitti. Nato ja Eu hävisi.
The ex nato leader is a clown 🤡 partly to blame for all of it ...
Germany:
People are in hauses and cars with problems in street
🗣️Bank of Europe🗣️
Why pay money for Germany?
🧐Kristalina Georgiewa🧐
🤦🏻♂️Claire Duhamel🤦🏻♂️
Charlatans
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