Sounds like Studio One when it created its stems it also boosted the high end I would guess to try and sound more defined. I agree the Logic is the better stem separator.
I tested this out with one of my songs on logic, FL studio and Studio One and FL studio did the best job at preserving the punch and clarity of the drums. I’m sure it’s different with different sources though.
I don't think we should ever expect perfection with stem separations as all sounds may have or share some of the same frequencies as other sounds. Not sure what technology is used to employ stems, but like anything else we tend to experience with computers and software, SOMEBODY is going to keep working on it as time goes along. My only problem with a lot of this is people being able to steal your stuff so easily, use it, then have the audacity to call themselves 'creative'😅 Gonna be a whole lot of remix kings/queens out there!
You can figger it even faster out by playing all stems at once... For some reason in studio one the stem version downgrades the quality compared to the unstemmed version and in Logic all 4 stems playing together sound the same as original. My conclusion is that studio one filters just a bit too much. A program called RipX dives deeper in filtering. That where you can adjust it.
One big thing I am noticing is studio one sounds really phased compare to logic even on the vocals logic sounds clean and more in phase even with the wide background vocals. I switched to Logic several years back. Love it. Free updates and runs much smoother than studio one.
Logic only recently released stem splitter so new version it is then. However, i feel spectralayers pro by Steinberg is far superior. (Costs a-lot though and probably intentionally steinberg didn’t offer it up discounted in the recent sale)
@@wilkopiano maybe the paid version but I use Cubase mainly and on the free version you can still hear quite a bit of artifacts with the stem separation. Where it’s clearly better is that it allows you to separate and modify notes/frequencies “layers” making it more useful as a creative tool.
My issue is a workflow issue. Most logic and studio one users won't use it as much as FL studio and machine users. Is it just a trend? And I'm a FL user here that samples a lot. But most of my friends using logic and studio one actually play instruments... I genuinely want to know if it will be useful fr.
@@YattirSmith it is a case by case situation. I'm only speaking of people that I know personally. Those people play, and probably won't need stem separation.
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Sounds like Studio One when it created its stems it also boosted the high end I would guess to try and sound more defined. I agree the Logic is the better stem separator.
I tested this out with one of my songs on logic, FL studio and Studio One and FL studio did the best job at preserving the punch and clarity of the drums. I’m sure it’s different with different sources though.
I don't think we should ever expect perfection with stem separations as all sounds may have or share some of the same frequencies as other sounds. Not sure what technology is used to employ stems, but like anything else we tend to experience with computers and software, SOMEBODY is going to keep working on it as time goes along. My only problem with a lot of this is people being able to steal your stuff so easily, use it, then have the audacity to call themselves 'creative'😅
Gonna be a whole lot of remix kings/queens out there!
@@FrontCoverBand 😂😂
Oh yeah Logic with the dub!!
Logic🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for making this video! 🫡
🙏🏾
Do I need a certain MacBook Pro
Any one will do, but the more RAM the faster the process
You can figger it even faster out by playing all stems at once... For some reason in studio one the stem version downgrades the quality compared to the unstemmed version and in Logic all 4 stems playing together sound the same as original. My conclusion is that studio one filters just a bit too much. A program called RipX dives deeper in filtering. That where you can adjust it.
One big thing I am noticing is studio one sounds really phased compare to logic even on the vocals logic sounds clean and more in phase even with the wide background vocals. I switched to Logic several years back. Love it. Free updates and runs much smoother than studio one.
It may be affected by the console emulation or master bus signal processing of the 2 daws.
Logic WINS!!!
You're on a mac as well. Logic is native & optimized
LOGIC is definitely for the win. 🏆
cubase does!
@@whittymusic Cubase don't even have stem splitter.
Logic only recently released stem splitter so new version it is then. However, i feel spectralayers pro by Steinberg is far superior. (Costs a-lot though and probably intentionally steinberg didn’t offer it up discounted in the recent sale)
@@wilkopiano maybe the paid version but I use Cubase mainly and on the free version you can still hear quite a bit of artifacts with the stem separation.
Where it’s clearly better is that it allows you to separate and modify notes/frequencies “layers” making it more useful as a creative tool.
My issue is a workflow issue. Most logic and studio one users won't use it as much as FL studio and machine users. Is it just a trend? And I'm a FL user here that samples a lot. But most of my friends using logic and studio one actually play instruments... I genuinely want to know if it will be useful fr.
That very general statement….most studio one user I know was waiting for this including myself …it’s a case by case scenario
@@Prince_By_Grace So far FL Studio has had the best stem separation of any DAW that I have heard.
@@YattirSmith it is a case by case situation. I'm only speaking of people that I know personally. Those people play, and probably won't need stem separation.
..st1 7, not so good as logic pro...but i guess it will improve...
logics vocal sound clean
how do you deal with that warpy sound? is there a way to smooth it out?
Not that I’ve found
studio one opted for zplane for their stem solution instead of creating their own algorithm
I haven’t heard a good outcome for the Studio One stem separation yet.
They are always bad in my opinion.
I would never use it at this point.
I tend to agree...I would def jump on Logic for it vs S1
Logic is using the M1 chip AI capabilities with the neural chip
Logic easily wins.
The purpose of stem separation is to make tweaks to a song that is originally in stereo, not to take samples from it. Just sayin'. Great video, btw!