@DancZer1 I found info on wiki: The AA-12 uses many different types of cartridges such as 00 buck shot, #4 bird shot, 12 gauge lead slugs, or less-than-lethal rubber stun batons. It can also fire flares or special Frag-12 19 mm fin-stabilized HE, HEAP, and sensor fused HEAB "air-burst" fragmentation shells that can detonate in mid-air.[4] Maybe in this video used Frag-12.
i play arma 2 and OA alot, just got OA yesterday, and i gotta say its very impressive and the editor is the best part of the game i gotta say, hope for even more DLC's.
@DancZer1 Shotguns shoot different size of shot depending on the shell used. The 0 size known as ought and range in single to triple ought. But all shotgun fire a pattern of shot. As far as your comment of small pellets are use more for bird hunting while the ought are use more for hunting larger game like deer. Also the spread of the shot depends on whats called the choke at the end of the barrel. Also slugs witch are not pellets but rather on huge lead bullet weighing around 1 ounce.
@Gekkibi "However, FRAG-12 is completely a different thing." It's still can't bring a heli down. Its a frag, not armor piercing or even a bullet to penetrate even hydraulics. Frag was designed to provide a firepower on close ranges vs enemy heavily armored soldiers, but not tanks, apcs, cars.
@ppitm not sure what game your playing, but i see this effect happen almost every game. Ive seen it happen to other people right in front of me as well where i could see the npc shooting him and the guy that died. The game also has the npc's go through the floor almost every time they go prone, and almost everytime they do this, they are shooting through several hundred meters to dirt and they disappear at the same time. Not every npc will shoot through objects, but theres no doubt it happens
@ppitm Fraps is a bit space/resource hungry so just watch ANY enemy npc go prone and fire his weapon for a super easy example, or travel to a capturable objective that still has its radio tower. Dispose of all the current sentries and lay down on the floor of the bunker out of view of everything. The reinforcement who have had 0 chance to see you, as they just spawned, will shoot right at you unmistakably from range and go right through a semi hardened bunker every time.
@greenpeacekiller52 How does a new campaign, SP missions, MP missions, troops, weapons, vehicles, helicopters and gameplay features at $10 compare to 5 recycled MP maps at $15?
@leksuli I think you've got it by now but I'm from Finland and I bought the reinforcements pack (PMC and BAF) from Prisma :p It took some time for it to get there though.
@ARMA2official You need to fix the british armed forces pack please :) The BAE systems turret did not win the contract for it to be fitted. General Dynamics did.
@ppitm ya and thats true, the reason why cops and swat use a 9mm is due to the fact that its only supposed to penetrate 2 walls of drywall before stopping, but my complaints with this system in the game are twofold: its too accurate with its blind fire. It should be guessing where your located, and it zero's in far too effectively, the other problem i have is that my rounds in turn will not puncture the same obstacles that the ai can even something as light as a picket fence i can see thru.
@ppitm if you still play the game lets link up and play a few rounds if possible, and ill try and demonstrate this in person. Even if i fail to reproduce these results (which im confidant this wont be an issue) im always looking for someone to blast with as teh server pops are disappearing for the vanilla game.
@ppitm well im not talking about red flashes im talking about death. If he misses and i move his aim follows you. I must have a different version or a faulty product, because what you claim can 'never' happen i can replicate 100% of the time and have done so to the amusement of the 97th clans vent server, and the bunker holding the objective is teh one sure place i know this is repeatable. Other places its hit or miss.
hmm i wonder if you can make a port of arma 2 for the xbox 360 using the attachable keypad somehow. sorry to post a message about console ports but i just thought of this idea if using the keypad. i am not saying that i want it for the xbox (because my computer is fast enough) but just thought it would be a cool possible idea for those people who want a console port
@ppitm well my friend i believe this is the part where we agree to disagree. Ive seen this with my own eyes, on myself and on others. Ive got a good amount of time with the game as well, and ive seen rounds go all the way through multiple buildings with graphical effects upon impact of each round in each wall it penetrated and everything. Your not referring to Ace by chance are you? Im speaking about vanilla arma 2. No mods at all.
Except for very few people own a keypad, and also it is a very difficult game to run, my i7 3770k and ati 7970 3gb on manage to pump out 40-60 fps on max settings.
@ARMA2official YES!! The game is good, but I cant wait for some engine improvements. I used to play this game in simulators at Warminster, and get paid for it!! Now I play it at home on the PC!! Brian ;)
@ARMA2official O thats ok its just this game looks soooooo beastly...I mean Ive always wanted to play this because it looks soo much fun and there is no game that comes close to it on ps3:(
@tehrealkamikaziii Arrowhead is acceptable, because it's pretty much like a new game and a big expansion as well as standalone if I recall correctly. Micro-transactions though are something all gamers hate. The British Armed Forces I have no idea if it was worth buying because I have neither Arrowhead nor that one because my pocket book is low on cash and there's other stuff to get. I'll maybe pick them up when I get to finishing ARMA2 since it's just a boring middle east campaign.
@ppitm i really feel that if you legitimately dotn realize this is happening perhaps your not even aware of it. And you've never seen a npc with his back to you walking away that suddenly turns around the second you come around a corner behind him even several hundred meters away? They zero in right on you, Its blatantly obvious. Ive seen this time and time again and had others witness it. I really have no idea how you can say any of what you have at all.
I think you guys from Bis should do more than just realising units and campaigns in your dlc's.. for example i own a good computer yet game likes to play stupid and lag time to time... another thing u should some how make recoil on weapons cause the one right now is easy to abuse.... by the way battleye doest catch hackers.... i know this idiot who comes to my server and crashes it in the game,,
Wow BIS needs to do a bit more research on shotguns. A AA-12 shooting down a chopper, yeah right! Maybe a 1/8 to 1/4 scale RC chopper LOL. And the range too, even if it was XXX buckshot or a 1oz slug (hardest hitting shotgun shells) it's still BS. Why don't BIS spend there time making better (and much needed) AI drivers. Or overall current game engine and not one that your normally see prior to 2000. If this is the case expect me to delete the pbo file because this here is bull butter!!!
until the ai shoots you through trees, walls, fences, and entire buildings or fortifications. Wish they'd fix the game and not make us feel like we are beta testing. Good game, but wow what a lacking test department.
Shotgun shot a Heli? What a joke. I've seen a guy who was shot with a .12 from 2 meters and who still alive even without armor. .12 cannot penetrate heli's steel. bs
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@DancZer1 I found info on wiki:
The AA-12 uses many different types of cartridges such as 00 buck shot, #4 bird shot, 12 gauge lead slugs, or less-than-lethal rubber stun batons. It can also fire flares or special Frag-12 19 mm fin-stabilized HE, HEAP, and sensor fused HEAB "air-burst" fragmentation shells that can detonate in mid-air.[4]
Maybe in this video used Frag-12.
"Cap'n we're going down!!!"
"Noone told us there was AA?!?"
"Nah just some guy with a shotgun"
i play arma 2 and OA alot, just got OA yesterday, and i gotta say its very impressive and the editor is the best part of the game i gotta say, hope for even more DLC's.
seems a little OP XD
Damn man even after like 10 years this still impressive
all arma 2:s are available on steam
@DancZer1 Shotguns shoot different size of shot depending on the shell used. The 0 size known as ought and range in single to triple ought. But all shotgun fire a pattern of shot. As far as your comment of small pellets are use more for bird hunting while the ought are use more for hunting larger game like deer. Also the spread of the shot depends on whats called the choke at the end of the barrel. Also slugs witch are not pellets but rather on huge lead bullet weighing around 1 ounce.
@Gekkibi
"However, FRAG-12 is completely a different thing."
It's still can't bring a heli down. Its a frag, not armor piercing or even a bullet to penetrate even hydraulics.
Frag was designed to provide a firepower on close ranges vs enemy heavily armored soldiers, but not tanks, apcs, cars.
Will be "Shotgun Ballistics Modelling" added to the older Arma 2 shotguns, like Saiga 12K and M1014?
@ppitm not sure what game your playing, but i see this effect happen almost every game. Ive seen it happen to other people right in front of me as well where i could see the npc shooting him and the guy that died. The game also has the npc's go through the floor almost every time they go prone, and almost everytime they do this, they are shooting through several hundred meters to dirt and they disappear at the same time. Not every npc will shoot through objects, but theres no doubt it happens
The bullet expoldes on impact?
The AA-12 fire small pellets that are spreading durring flying?
That's 040040 keypad 2 in Zargabad, after an apparently really bad day. PMC is looking fantastic!
OP!
How about DLC where the A.I. doesn't walk through solid walls and boulders or get stuck on the latter?
is this bombed out zargabad (mind the spelling) included in the PMC?
Is Matilda going to have the common ammo clip, round one or both?
So, how long after release can we expect to see it pushed out for free in a patch (as seen with BAF)?
@RStickMan22 Only question is... would it be that easy to hit a chopper...
@Makron5 well explosive rounds damaged the tail rotor so the pilot crashed.
How does a shotgun shoot down a heli?
Frankaloons HE rounds...Aren't they glorious.
***** Ah, yes. I'm curious to know if they exist in the real world? Probably.
how do you get the frag rounds for the aa12 in PMC
@ppitm Fraps is a bit space/resource hungry so just watch ANY enemy npc go prone and fire his weapon for a super easy example, or travel to a capturable objective that still has its radio tower. Dispose of all the current sentries and lay down on the floor of the bunker out of view of everything. The reinforcement who have had 0 chance to see you, as they just spawned, will shoot right at you unmistakably from range and go right through a semi hardened bunker every time.
The choppers doesn't blow up this way when hit the ground, they just don't...
@childkicker Yeah missed the fact it had explosive shells.
@asus531
True, the new "expansion" will feature a PMC faction (Kinda like Xe, formally known as Blackwater)
Happy birthday ArmA!I really enjoyed your game,so I orderd the X edition.Keep up the good work on ArmA 3!
ITS THE AA-12! THANKS BIS FOR THIS WEAPON!
@greenpeacekiller52
How does a new campaign, SP missions, MP missions, troops, weapons, vehicles, helicopters and gameplay features at $10 compare to 5 recycled MP maps at $15?
@leksuli I think you've got it by now but I'm from Finland and I bought the reinforcements pack (PMC and BAF) from Prisma :p
It took some time for it to get there though.
I'm pretty sure the "AA" in AA-12 doesn't mean anti-air. Still a good use for it, though.
Did he just shoot down a helicopter with a shotgun? :O
It can bring down a chopper?
Can somebody tell me if that's realistic or not?
@ARMA2official You need to fix the british armed forces pack please :) The BAE systems turret did not win the contract for it to be fitted. General Dynamics did.
@ppitm ya and thats true, the reason why cops and swat use a 9mm is due to the fact that its only supposed to penetrate 2 walls of drywall before stopping, but my complaints with this system in the game are twofold: its too accurate with its blind fire. It should be guessing where your located, and it zero's in far too effectively, the other problem i have is that my rounds in turn will not puncture the same obstacles that the ai can even something as light as a picket fence i can see thru.
@ppitm if you still play the game lets link up and play a few rounds if possible, and ill try and demonstrate this in person. Even if i fail to reproduce these results (which im confidant this wont be an issue) im always looking for someone to blast with as teh server pops are disappearing for the vanilla game.
I don't have this game but I really want it! Do you need a good PC to play it or just an average computer? Thanks
Can we buy the expansions and install them on ArmA 2 Free?
@ppitm well im not talking about red flashes im talking about death. If he misses and i move his aim follows you. I must have a different version or a faulty product, because what you claim can 'never' happen i can replicate 100% of the time and have done so to the amusement of the 97th clans vent server, and the bunker holding the objective is teh one sure place i know this is repeatable. Other places its hit or miss.
@marineaddict My My Immersion, how does a shotgun take down a helicopter?
sadly we cannot get this in finland, because in finland we only have normal arma 2 and OA not even BAF
@Makron5 Explosive shells!
One man, one shotgun, a world at war.
My comment was made over a year ago. Back then you couldn't get most of the arma 2 expansions
@ARMA2official Hey im wanting to buy this game but is it for the ps3 and if its not why not
I heard a rumor that you'll finally open up the co-pilot seat in the L-39 along with this DLC. Can you confirm?
hmm i wonder if you can make a port of arma 2 for the xbox 360 using the attachable keypad somehow. sorry to post a message about console ports but i just thought of this idea if using the keypad. i am not saying that i want it for the xbox (because my computer is fast enough) but just thought it would be a cool possible idea for those people who want a console port
So dear Team Arma, did not want to show us the finest reloading animations you have?
Thats fine...
I didn't think a shotgun could take down a chopper at that range.
@ppitm well my friend i believe this is the part where we agree to disagree. Ive seen this with my own eyes, on myself and on others. Ive got a good amount of time with the game as well, and ive seen rounds go all the way through multiple buildings with graphical effects upon impact of each round in each wall it penetrated and everything. Your not referring to Ace by chance are you? Im speaking about vanilla arma 2. No mods at all.
how much will this dlc cost? i dont want to play more than 10 euros...
Except for very few people own a keypad, and also it is a very difficult game to run, my i7 3770k and ati 7970 3gb on manage to pump out 40-60 fps on max settings.
e-p-i-c...
This will change the way people think of shotguns in ArmA2 :D
THAT WAS EPIC!!
That's fucking awesome, cheers, BIS.
@ARMA2official YES!! The game is good, but I cant wait for some engine improvements. I used to play this game in simulators at Warminster, and get paid for it!! Now I play it at home on the PC!!
Brian ;)
ArmA 2. Awesome 10/10 PC
if those werent Frag-12. i think it might be a little unrealistic x) well i dont know.
awesome
@ARMA2official LOL I wondered why it could take down the Huey I was like 'Um isn't Arma II meant to be realistic?'
do you ever get to shoot anyone in this game?
Explosive shells maybe?
They should have called it Bohemian Dragon Slayer.
AA-12 = Anti Air-12
@A1FORC3 sorry bro, this game is only for the master race PC, and not the inferior consoles.
@tehrealkamikaziii tough shit, its new DLC
@ARMA2official O thats ok its just this game looks soooooo beastly...I mean Ive always wanted to play this because it looks soo much fun and there is no game that comes close to it on ps3:(
Auto assault 12..Awesome..
@tehrealkamikaziii Arrowhead is acceptable, because it's pretty much like a new game and a big expansion as well as standalone if I recall correctly. Micro-transactions though are something all gamers hate. The British Armed Forces I have no idea if it was worth buying because I have neither Arrowhead nor that one because my pocket book is low on cash and there's other stuff to get. I'll maybe pick them up when I get to finishing ARMA2 since it's just a boring middle east campaign.
@ppitm i really feel that if you legitimately dotn realize this is happening perhaps your not even aware of it. And you've never seen a npc with his back to you walking away that suddenly turns around the second you come around a corner behind him even several hundred meters away? They zero in right on you, Its blatantly obvious. Ive seen this time and time again and had others witness it. I really have no idea how you can say any of what you have at all.
OMG I
Dear Santa,
@Makron5 in arma 2, anything is possible.lol.XD
HE JUST SHOT DOWN A FUCKING HELICOPTER!
that thing is fucking mean as shit
Wow! I'll have a new weapon against to tanks :D
@buymeamic
Half-assed assumptions never get you too far, don't they?
@RStickMan22 Erm that thing fires grenades............ full auto with fin stabilized HEAP rounds will fuck a helicopter up...
I think you guys from Bis should do more than just realising units and campaigns in your dlc's.. for example i own a good computer yet game likes to play stupid and lag time to time... another thing u should some how make recoil on weapons cause the one right now is easy to abuse.... by the way battleye doest catch hackers.... i know this idiot who comes to my server and crashes it in the game,,
@halo2142 x2
Wow BIS needs to do a bit more research on shotguns. A AA-12 shooting down a chopper, yeah right! Maybe a 1/8 to 1/4 scale RC chopper LOL. And the range too, even if it was XXX buckshot or a 1oz slug (hardest hitting shotgun shells) it's still BS. Why don't BIS spend there time making better (and much needed) AI drivers. Or overall current game engine and not one that your normally see prior to 2000. If this is the case expect me to delete the pbo file because this here is bull butter!!!
Shotguns don't have that much range O.O
@halo2142 WTF???
@daymare10110 PS3 is the best tho I wish I had a good Pc to play this
until the ai shoots you through trees, walls, fences, and entire buildings or fortifications. Wish they'd fix the game and not make us feel like we are beta testing. Good game, but wow what a lacking test department.
Hahah awesome
go to norway then ;)
FUCK YEAAAAR
omg, first time disappointed about the realism of this game ...
@asdasd3056 Go troll somewhere else, looking at comments 9 months ago to reply them >_
Shotgun shot a Heli?
What a joke.
I've seen a guy who was shot with a .12 from 2 meters and who still alive even without armor.
.12 cannot penetrate heli's steel. bs
Fukin Rambo!
yea nice shotgun xD.
Another crappy DLC incoming?