Great content, thanks for the addition of comments allows us to understand better why you do what you do, just a quick suggestions, there are points where text is too long for the duration it appears, imo increasing duration would be a nice improvement. Also could I ask why do you not go for venge aghs and go skywarth instead?
@@PilgrimStream Thanks! I also noticed you said that you would rather not go pickup item, what would your ideal 6 slot item wise would look like? (I am really tryharding to beat my friend and now I am 50k behind :D)
Watch my tips&tricks video. Now i really believe high FPS is super important for extra 10-20% points. I do believe pickup extender is important in late game, where your movement is restricted. I just dont like it earlier as corridor solves that for you before min 7. Apex is less important than pickup range. This build is pretty ideal for me. If no annihilation you can go for bat/lina/wisp
@@PilgrimStream Thank you again! Already did watch that video, you are my go to Nest of Thors source! About the FPS I had that theory as well, I noticed that my score could keep up till minute 9, after that it dipped behind yours, when I started lagging. I will give it a shot at my flatmates pc, with better GPU, I can keep you posted on that if you are interested!
I don't think fps makes much of a difference as long as you are above 60. i realized yesterday that I can full screen. which increased my fps to 230. while in small interface I get 130. yet on 130. I scored 1.8m but on full screen I went max 1.7m lol
Get the right spells and items at the right time and somewhat lucky with where enemies spawn. All these near 2 million pint runs have lv8 or 9 magic missile by the time the first boss appears. After at least a hundred runs, I don’t think I ever had lv 6 before the first boss appeared (with sky) even when using all my rerolls. Maxing magic missile as early as possible a must. To go for max points. O, and getting some magnets for the near the end is also very helpful of you are lucky enough to get a few near each other .
Great video and huuge score! Congrats mate! I was wondering if you'd tried postponing the last aghs's upgrade and taking frostbite with apex. I had some serious damage from that spell (not to mention the increase it's supposed to give to the rest of spells), but was never lucky enough with my rerolls to get it during the good runs. Currently sitting on 1,891,000 and hoping to breach 1,9m by the end of the event Good luck to us all!
Good luck! I had frostbite with aghs few times as 6th skill. It wasn't good - I try to avoid it now. Maybe without aghs. Late game you have to move in circles and while you are at one side opposite moves towards you. If too many mobs are frozen - they don't move and might even despawn. Even in last 30 seconds of the run stunned (venge) and frozen enemies deal damage if you run into them. While push-back from Sky's Arcane Bolt does only help you to survive in last 30 seconds, other two crowd controls are rather harmful for a high score run... In my opinion :)
If I dont have all upgrades and just want to pass last difficulty (not going for highscore), can you recomment anything? Do I really need Track or I can replace it with anything?
You need track with first aghs in any build. Go check this amazing video th-cam.com/video/IrO-2-h7AM8/w-d-xo.html from a creator who passed all 7 echelons with no upgrades at all.
по скиллам понятно, по билду бы очередность того что выгодней брать вторым/третьим после specialist array, октарин, каю, филактерию? 1.78м седня пробил после 2 недель с 1.70
2 million needed from you. that chinese guy 1.97 didnt seem like a fluke. his gameplay was looking real good and he seemed to be in practice. i wonder if he was able to break 2m
Depends on what you mean by "beginning" =) If you have seen my tips&trick video - you can see how I split the expected points by every minute. Not knowing how do you play, I can only tell that using Damage Reflection and Mortimers out-of-screen spawn kills might help you get more points earlier. If you are not using the corridor - that could be a problem with picking up the loot. For killing skeleton you get 70 points; for picking up his XP - another 70 points; that skeleton can also drop gold - that is even more points. So being efficient with pickups is important. Also there is a theory that drops disappear after some time (I've seen a 70seconds number, but it might be different or false at all). If this is true - you need to time magnets, so nothing disapears with potential points it provides.
Dude. for past 3 days after watching your video. I keep scoring 1.7m like in 8-9 games today. 1.8m i scored 3 times. my highest is 1.826. i m unable to beat my own record... the reason i m trying to beat that is because... i did not complete trident in that one yet scored 1.826. but anyway. i m trying to break 1.9m what to improve to push 1.8 to 1.9.
Try to play with settings and make as much FPS as possilbe. I do believe this matters for last push - I had issues with FPS 3 days before this video and it had achieved nothing over hundreds of tries - basically lacked points in random times for no obvious reasons.
dude are you sure about fps. check my this comment. th-cam.com/video/yK0dTKcnZfY/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgxBjH6h-bIChQK82FF4AaABAg.ADD3PdKL78qADDHCvdQ1z7&si=l4qdD2pJp1bkiPTy I scored more on less fps and limited window game than more fps + hertz and zoomed gameplay at 2k.
basically my video settings don't seem to have any impact on that... non maximized gameplay window. I don't know what to say. limited window gameplay. like my full screen works at 240 fps. while the non maximized screen works at 120fps. idk why. In full screen game is much much smoother and liquid but the creeps are so so big. waves etc. you do have better precised movement but overall holistic view gets disturbed. sort of like you're playing dota then. lol
I play full screen on a 24" 1080p monitor I am not sure about FPS. But I have and idea why it might help. I also have an anecdotal evidence with my personal experience and some comments I've seen under my videos
nothing helps in this game more than praying to the gods you believe in. Infact my person experience says, it helps if you believe in all the 2M gods and hope a few of them are not happy with you so that you can settle for 1.946M score.
2mil seems impossible, i only just managed to get past level 7 with 1mil score. i must say your runs seems to be very lucky with magnet drops and skills so i assume you have been grinding many many runs to bring us this example.
If you saw my tips&tricks video - there is a table for points at every minute. It's hard to say what went wrong by the minute 9. Weeks before I locked on my build I was comparing minute by minute different runs trying to understand when and what I can improve.
Idk why but I always got bad result at the beginning. I had everything: First array, early magic missie, stay in the narrow corner.... and almost max upgrade. But by min 5 I always got some levels and about 100k points lower than you. Any tips pls?
In general I can suggest to get all upgrades maxed out. Another general suggestion would be to aim high FPS: lower in-game settings, overclock you cpu/gpu/ram. Good luck!
I have a short which shows it does. Also was pointed out at it by redditor and made a research. It seems like it works. Also I still have feeling it maybe be do no points for "old pickups", like the ones laing on the floor for over 2 minutes lets say. I don't know for sure
@@PilgrimStreami saw a video where someone played this standing in place from start to finish. The exp diamonds expire after approx. 1 minute 10 seconds
I tried Knife with Aghs as 6th skill few times - didn't made a dent in late game's score. Could be just anecdotal evidence, but I don't have whole life for testing this =)
I think you might be sleeping on knife throw, with the specialist and kanda it does amazing dmg.. probably a better aghs then arcane if you can get apex in time.
@@PilgrimStream I tried all spells as 6 skill. But nothing of them not boost score. As a anhigilation. World record is without 6 item. But there is some method when u not pick up last item that will give you Apex and wait til 12min+. When strong mobs come pick up item and choose anhigilation, and push it in a row. That scary last second creeps dying. But i cant do that. no more luck for me))). My record 1,898M
I do believe Timeless Relic (or Bat's skill) is important at least stages when your movement is limited. World Chasm > Apex - are 2 best items for those "2 empty" slots
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only 2 days left :(( i wish someone break 2m before event ends :(
We must!
What? 2 more day end this event 😭😭
@@chikomeiko13yes
Dude it’s impossible. Even getting first skill missile with 2x bounce and specialist array 2 and unlimited magnets I can’t get to 2m
i saw some screenshots of 2.1M, no video tho
thank you so much, great video, very helpful.
Great content, thanks for the addition of comments allows us to understand better why you do what you do, just a quick suggestions, there are points where text is too long for the duration it appears, imo increasing duration would be a nice improvement.
Also could I ask why do you not go for venge aghs and go skywarth instead?
Venge Aghs is bugged - adds no damage
@@PilgrimStream Thanks! I also noticed you said that you would rather not go pickup item, what would your ideal 6 slot item wise would look like? (I am really tryharding to beat my friend and now I am 50k behind :D)
Watch my tips&tricks video. Now i really believe high FPS is super important for extra 10-20% points.
I do believe pickup extender is important in late game, where your movement is restricted. I just dont like it earlier as corridor solves that for you before min 7.
Apex is less important than pickup range.
This build is pretty ideal for me.
If no annihilation you can go for bat/lina/wisp
@@PilgrimStream Thank you again! Already did watch that video, you are my go to Nest of Thors source!
About the FPS I had that theory as well, I noticed that my score could keep up till minute 9, after that it dipped behind yours, when I started lagging. I will give it a shot at my flatmates pc, with better GPU, I can keep you posted on that if you are interested!
I don't think fps makes much of a difference as long as you are above 60. i realized yesterday that I can full screen. which increased my fps to 230. while in small interface I get 130. yet on 130. I scored 1.8m but on full screen I went max 1.7m lol
Get the right spells and items at the right time and somewhat lucky with where enemies spawn.
All these near 2 million pint runs have lv8 or 9 magic missile by the time the first boss appears. After at least a hundred runs, I don’t think I ever had lv 6 before the first boss appeared (with sky) even when using all my rerolls. Maxing magic missile as early as possible a must. To go for max points. O, and getting some magnets for the near the end is also very helpful of you are lucky enough to get a few near each other .
I don't think I ever had Magic Missile maxed before first boss.
I do try to max out Mortimer's Kisses first.
nice tutorial, great video
Great video and huuge score! Congrats mate!
I was wondering if you'd tried postponing the last aghs's upgrade and taking frostbite with apex. I had some serious damage from that spell (not to mention the increase it's supposed to give to the rest of spells), but was never lucky enough with my rerolls to get it during the good runs. Currently sitting on 1,891,000 and hoping to breach 1,9m by the end of the event
Good luck to us all!
Good luck!
I had frostbite with aghs few times as 6th skill. It wasn't good - I try to avoid it now. Maybe without aghs.
Late game you have to move in circles and while you are at one side opposite moves towards you. If too many mobs are frozen - they don't move and might even despawn.
Even in last 30 seconds of the run stunned (venge) and frozen enemies deal damage if you run into them. While push-back from Sky's Arcane Bolt does only help you to survive in last 30 seconds, other two crowd controls are rather harmful for a high score run... In my opinion :)
@@PilgrimStream Good point. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the guide
If I dont have all upgrades and just want to pass last difficulty (not going for highscore), can you recomment anything? Do I really need Track or I can replace it with anything?
You need track with first aghs in any build.
Go check this amazing video th-cam.com/video/IrO-2-h7AM8/w-d-xo.html from a creator who passed all 7 echelons with no upgrades at all.
@@PilgrimStream Thank you a lot!
I will try these tips, thanks. here is ur sub bro...
Awesome, thank you!
Si traduces esto, que geniales son tus videos! Jajaja me encantan. 😁 Voy a probar tus estrategia.
Thank you!
Reached 1.915 m, Ty for tips
That is an amazing result! Well done!
I tried doing the same thing as you but it's like you deal double damage compared to me
This is not my average game. If I miss point targets at certain minutes - I restart
по скиллам понятно, по билду бы очередность того что выгодней брать вторым/третьим после specialist array, октарин, каю, филактерию? 1.78м седня пробил после 2 недель с 1.70
Well done!
I try to follow next priorities:
Mortimer>Venge>Bounty>Lich
Octarine>Specialist>kaya>khanda>pickup range>trident
2 million needed from you. that chinese guy 1.97 didnt seem like a fluke. his gameplay was looking real good and he seemed to be in practice. i wonder if he was able to break 2m
competing with chinese isnt good idea bruv
how to understand where a next boss spawning?
There are 3 boss spawns. In a single game one never trigger twice.
how do u get so much point at beginning, i upgrade all the skills and i using same skills, item and hero..
Depends on what you mean by "beginning" =)
If you have seen my tips&trick video - you can see how I split the expected points by every minute.
Not knowing how do you play, I can only tell that using Damage Reflection and Mortimers out-of-screen spawn kills might help you get more points earlier.
If you are not using the corridor - that could be a problem with picking up the loot. For killing skeleton you get 70 points; for picking up his XP - another 70 points; that skeleton can also drop gold - that is even more points. So being efficient with pickups is important.
Also there is a theory that drops disappear after some time (I've seen a 70seconds number, but it might be different or false at all). If this is true - you need to time magnets, so nothing disapears with potential points it provides.
damn so close to 2M
What upgrades do you have?
All of them :)
push to 2m cmon brother
why does people dont upgrade magic missile agnim?
Aghs is bugged for Magi Missile - no damage is added
Why they dont fixed?😅
i upgraded it on every run...
Dude. for past 3 days after watching your video. I keep scoring 1.7m like in 8-9 games today. 1.8m i scored 3 times. my highest is 1.826. i m unable to beat my own record... the reason i m trying to beat that is because... i did not complete trident in that one yet scored 1.826. but anyway. i m trying to break 1.9m what to improve to push 1.8 to 1.9.
Try to play with settings and make as much FPS as possilbe. I do believe this matters for last push - I had issues with FPS 3 days before this video and it had achieved nothing over hundreds of tries - basically lacked points in random times for no obvious reasons.
dude are you sure about fps.
check my this comment. th-cam.com/video/yK0dTKcnZfY/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgxBjH6h-bIChQK82FF4AaABAg.ADD3PdKL78qADDHCvdQ1z7&si=l4qdD2pJp1bkiPTy
I scored more on less fps and limited window game than more fps + hertz and zoomed gameplay at 2k.
basically my video settings don't seem to have any impact on that... non maximized gameplay window. I don't know what to say. limited window gameplay. like my full screen works at 240 fps. while the non maximized screen works at 120fps. idk why. In full screen game is much much smoother and liquid but the creeps are so so big. waves etc. you do have better precised movement but overall holistic view gets disturbed. sort of like you're playing dota then. lol
do you play on full screen or non maximized window ?
I play full screen on a 24" 1080p monitor
I am not sure about FPS. But I have and idea why it might help. I also have an anecdotal evidence with my personal experience and some comments I've seen under my videos
i dont get it why u dont upgrade magic missile
It's bugged. Aghs do not add any damage to Magic Missile.
i have a question, why aghs on arcane bolt instead of magic missile? and wow 1.9 mil, i can only do 1.3 mil lol
Magic Missile aghs is bugged - it gives no damage
@@PilgrimStream oh! thank you
nothing helps in this game more than praying to the gods you believe in. Infact my person experience says, it helps if you believe in all the 2M gods and hope a few of them are not happy with you so that you can settle for 1.946M score.
😂
2mil seems impossible, i only just managed to get past level 7 with 1mil score. i must say your runs seems to be very lucky with magnet drops and skills so i assume you have been grinding many many runs to bring us this example.
I do play a lot of games and restart much more =)
Im struggle at 1.7 before last boss. My record 1.85, but can't reach 1mil before 3 miniboss spawn. I fixed fps, but still
If you saw my tips&tricks video - there is a table for points at every minute. It's hard to say what went wrong by the minute 9. Weeks before I locked on my build I was comparing minute by minute different runs trying to understand when and what I can improve.
@@PilgrimStreamthank you. I'll check later
Idk why but I always got bad result at the beginning. I had everything: First array, early magic missie, stay in the narrow corner.... and almost max upgrade. But by min 5 I always got some levels and about 100k points lower than you. Any tips pls?
In general I can suggest to get all upgrades maxed out. Another general suggestion would be to aim high FPS: lower in-game settings, overclock you cpu/gpu/ram.
Good luck!
magnets play a huge role in getting higher score
magnets doesathings you get from magnets doesnt increase the score afaik
@ShameezhYT that was a misinformation spread by me most probably. Magnets do reward you with points after 10 seconds.
@@PilgrimStream but it doesn't seems to increase the score much. I have checked it few times
I have a short which shows it does. Also was pointed out at it by redditor and made a research.
It seems like it works. Also I still have feeling it maybe be do no points for "old pickups", like the ones laing on the floor for over 2 minutes lets say. I don't know for sure
@@PilgrimStreami saw a video where someone played this standing in place from start to finish. The exp diamonds expire after approx. 1 minute 10 seconds
2m near pls
You’re not killing fast enough at the end game. You really need Knife with infinite piercing
I tried Knife with Aghs as 6th skill few times - didn't made a dent in late game's score. Could be just anecdotal evidence, but I don't have whole life for testing this =)
Давай вже 2 ляма поки габен івент не закрив)
Sadly this event will end soon 😅
Any luck hitting 2m? I wish this mini game remains after crownfall ends :(
This is my Personal Record so far.
But I am trying!
2m or you will be forgotten
You alright mate?
I think you might be sleeping on knife throw, with the specialist and kanda it does amazing dmg.. probably a better aghs then arcane if you can get apex in time.
i really like knife throw with agh, you can basically walk and create a safe path nonstop. But makes me wonder, what is the agh for annihilation?
@@mynameisabe905 It is extra life, so kind of worthless
@mynameisabe905 Aghs for annihilation adds 1 resurrection I believe
I did try Knife as 6th spell with aghanim - didn't make a dent in points.
These skills are ultimate set of what you need through the game.
@@PilgrimStream I tried all spells as 6 skill. But nothing of them not boost score. As a anhigilation. World record is without 6 item. But there is some method when u not pick up last item that will give you Apex and wait til 12min+. When strong mobs come pick up item and choose anhigilation, and push it in a row. That scary last second creeps dying. But i cant do that. no more luck for me))). My record 1,898M
9:10 why don't you take Timeless Relic or Blade Mail over World Chasm Artifact if you'll have 2 empty slots left anyways?
I do believe Timeless Relic (or Bat's skill) is important at least stages when your movement is limited.
World Chasm > Apex - are 2 best items for those "2 empty" slots