Good morning Ryan - if the Mets just play within themselves, they should not lose this series, but realistically, all they really need is one win. So don’t get swept.
Yeah, one win’s not going to do it. I don’t trust them to maintain a one-game lead while playing in house-of-horrors Milwaukee, while Atlanta gets to play the reeling Royals at home. And really, they need to win the FIRST two games, because Thursday is going to get hurricaned out, which takes Manaea out of the equation (and unless the Mets miraculously clinch in Atlanta, it’ll also take him out of the equation for a potential Wild Card Game 1, because he’ll pitch Friday in Milwaukee). And unless they play a doubleheader today or tomorrow, they’ll have to come back Monday for the series finale, if it’s still necessary, likely started by Peterson. Doesn’t fill me with optimism. Then again, nothing does.
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar na we got this. And royals are fighting for their lives while the brewers are on vaca mode since they are locked in their spots. But we do need two just to bury the Braves for once in my 45 year lifetime!!! LGM!
@@Standdividedfalltogether The Royals are fighting, but they’re getting creamed, and those games are in Atlanta, while the Mets never play well in Milwaukee. It’s not like the Brewers have dominant starting pitchers whom they’ll be resting. What they do have is a dominant bullpen, so it’ll be 4-5 innings of Tobias Meyers or Colin Rea or whoever, followed by that shutdown bullpen (including Tylor’s big bro Trevor Megill). And winning that series may not matter because the finale of THIS series, if necessary, probably won’t be played until Monday, back in Atlanta, which likely means a Peterson vs. Sale rematch for all the marbles. Doesn’t make me feel all warm and fuzzy. Not that anything does. 😆
If the Mets only win 1; than the Braves win the season series meaning that if Sunday comes and the Mets went like 2 and 1 vs the Brewers and the Braves swept the Royals and the records were tied Atlanta goes to post season and the Mets go home.
It’s certainly possible that the Mets and Braves both make it while the Diamondbacks fall out. Regardless of what happens in this series, it would help the Mets a lot for Arizona to keep losing.
Feels like this is the most important game of the series for the Mets to win. If the Mets loose tonight the media that has been waiting for them to collapse will be all over the headlines with the Mets choking. Especially facing Chris Sale in game 2. I think the added pressure on the Mets would be a x factor.
When we were 11 games under .500, Cohen said that he isn't the one that makes the day to day baseball operation decisions. He knew when he dismantled the team in 23 that we wouldn't be competitive till 25 or 26 and saw no reason to put a truly competitive team on the field in 2024. He just got lucky that the pitching broke the right way, but you don't compete in short, crucial series without a legit #1 or 2 starter.
I've said it before, but I really think the difference in expectations between the '22 team and this squad is a big factor. On paper, that '22 team was World Series or bust. The pressure to win was enormous. This '24 team feels more organic and relaxed, and I think they can make a deeper run as a result.
I think it depends on tonight; I think if the Braves find a way to win tonight that the media headlines Wednesday from New York will be the "Mets choke again". Than with Sales going Wednesday the media be having a blast that they Mets are going get knocked out. I think if the loss happens tonight that players may try and do too much Wednesday against Sale.
Interestingly enough, I think the two main reasons the Mets are not faltering down the stretch as in past years is: 1. They have an excellent manager this year Mendoza, who learned from time with the Yankees, what it takes to win. 2. They have an influx of youth who have been winners and are unfamiliar with past failures including Alvarez, Acuna, Vientos. 3. With injury to Lindor, who was their main guy all season, the other players knew this was their time to shine! Players like Iglesias, Nimmo and Taylor are playing unbelievably well right now. I think the Mets will continue to do well and take 2 of 3 for both series.
A few weeks ago people were complaining about Mendoza. One thing for sure the Mets can keep using Diaz for 6 out saves it’s going catch up to them either this year or next year. Tyler Matzek with the Braves perfect example was a post season work horse and destroyed his arm.
This feel nothing like 2022. I’m not waiting for the shoe to drop like 2022. We all felt it coming in 22. This year I feel the steam engine on the tracks!! LFGM!
That’s a good point. 2022 felt like a slow buildup where the Braves were inching closer to us all year. This year the roles were reversed. This team plays more confident and has more fun.
I have watched this team for decades longer than some of the people who comment here. I was blessed to see the 1 championship during my life. From that year on I have seen the very lows & the painful just wasn’t enough. From the dodger in, 88. There was a season I want to say it was 97 where the Mets had to beat the Braves just 1 time to get into the playoffs. They were swept. In 1999 the Mets were down 3-0 & the grand single from Robin Ventura. If anyone was a team of destiny it was that one & they didn’t make it to game 7 of NLCS comeback after comeback ending in a walk from rogers. This was a better team offensively than the 2000 NLCS with 1 in the subway series. 2006 was the year they finally ended the braves dominance (for a little while). Endy’s great catch, wainwright’s curve to Beltran.The phenomenal choking if there ever was 1 in a season kissing a 7 game lead goodbye in 17 games. Then in 2015, watching Familia pretty much single handedly blow every game in 2015 costing them the World Series & the overachieving Mets in 2022 setting up the disaster that was 2023. From generation k to Wright & Reyes to that insane rotation that fizzled out except for Degrom & wheeler. This young core the Mets have complete control for years to come have so much potential. So, I hope I reverse jinx them when I say tonight is the game that they have to win to have any chance against sale (cy young winner) or fried, I thought the Mets couldn’t split the series with the Phillies & they won a 4 game set. This is a different team. I think the Mets are at best going to win tonight, but schewwllenbach (sp) can be very tough. He did extremely well early on. I think if they lose tonight, this magical season is over. I think the Braves pitching stymies this team & may barely win 1 game. Bring out the Tums for the next 6 games, Win or lose as always #LFGM!
The season you’re talking about-when the Mets needed to beat Atlanta once, and failed-was 1998. The defense behind Familia completely abandoned him in the 2015 WS, which didn’t help matters. And I’m not ready to say the Mets have a good young core. There’s potential, but Vientos has WAY overperformed (expect more golden and platinum sombreros, because his zone contact rate is HORRIBLE), Álvarez has been underwhelming, Acuña has benefited from teams not pitching him tough yet, and…well, that’s it for the young guys. Lindor will be 31, Nimmo will be 32, McNeil will be 33, Alonso will be on another team, and we don’t know where those HRs are going to come from. Mauricio missed the entire year, and he swings at everything. Baty looks like he might need a change of scenery. Jett Williams and Drew Gilbert could be solid, if unspectacular regulars, but we don’t even know that yet. There could be some serious growing pains next year.
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar I I think that the players the mets have a few years of control under 34 still include prime years, include Nimmo who is playing hurt after his OPS dropped over 100 points mid-season & to a lesser extent McNeil whose versatility defensively far exceeds any struggles with the bst, Vientos has had a lot of holes in his swing, but he will run into 30 HRs & will give solid run production of 80+ RBIs & 230-240 avg for a few yeears. Alvarez is the streakiest hitter I've ever seen. I saw power regression closer to 20 HRs in a sophomore slide, but when he's hot you can expect big numbers, but probably not going to be a 40 HR player & his framing is the best the mets have had in a very long time. He's extremely young, so as he ages he's going to gsy. He has 30+ HR potential & he's only going to get better. Mets need him to DH a bit to get the most out of his bat. Lindor isn't David Wright, but back issues are going to take away his running game, but this is his team. Edwin Diaz should be more sharp next year. Lock him in for close to 40 saves. The pitching from Peterson & Senga should be pretty solid. Sproat & Tong have incredible upside. I think the mets should let pitchers get their innings in at AA when they're hot & bring them up instead of languishing in AAA purgatory. I don't include Acuña whose overachieving probably & is a defensive replacement pinch runner until proven otherwise, Mauricio has had too small of a sample size but is a big & athletic player, Baty needs to get hot in the minors play some if there's an injury & used as a trade chip. Scott was used improperly, but I see him being a great setup guy & ultimately a closer. That will have to wait after TJ. They needed to start jet in AA. I had no expectations of him impacting the team in a massive way. I think he can be a Jeff McNeil super utility guy. The player who I will include is the power bat that came with the CF. He has 30+ HR potential. He might be another year away. This doesn't include Blade & some other pitchers who haven't lived up to their potential & a couple of players drafted in the last 2 years. So, I think the mets future is bright & need to lock down these young players after 2 very good years for the fraction of the cost of free agents as many teams have done, so you don't have a degrom/Pete situation & build around them. Mets have a lot of work in the off-season filling in these gaps bringing back Iglesias & Manea would be a decent start, but need one of the Aces & Alonso will be a lot closer to the 200 than the 300 million & mets should still make a very strong attempt to keep him especially if they can't get Soto, imho. 90 RBIs 35+ HRs every season he played. In 2 not so great years, he'll be the only player in the league to put up those #s. Hiring Boras could totally backfire on him, but some team will offer him at least 230 for 7 years no matter how frustrated we are about his collapse in big moments this year, imho.
Mets do have more depth in the lineup.....no question....but the reality is you can't necessarily argue that it matters because this series is a SAMPLE SIZE of the entire season. Hopefully the depth factor pays off but the truth is that anybody on the field can over or under achieve..... obviously that's why they play the game. Lindor should be the DH if he's not swinging with pain. I wouldn't play him in the field. It's simply too risky making him bend for 9+ innings. He can stay warm in the dugout with a jacket to avoid his back flaring up on him. JD can sit one out.... his struggles are real at the moment. Obviously....if Lindor feels really good.... they could go a different direction but from the interviews I've seen it's quite apparent that Lindor is not pain free. If he's still battling at 70-80 percent I would be inclined to let him rest. You simply can't take a chance of losing him for the playoffs. By the way....the discussion of Peterson or Quintana pitching in this series is a toss up..... Peterson has been awesome but had a recent bad outing. Quintana has been up and down but recently has been excellent. Regardless.... the brewers series will likely see Quintana on the mound and that series very well may have implications. Therefore they both will have their opportunity.
Momentum can change in a heart beat. IF Atlanta were to win tonight than the media hype about facing Chris sale all day Wednesday could really change the momentum.
Good pitching always beats good hitting. Cohen decided we will just have a group of journeymen and reclamation projects as a pitching staff this year. As far as Peterson and McGill go, half the people on this site were calling for their heads last year. Cohen gave us a staff worthy of a .500 season, if that. They have excelled past anyone's imagination, but now the rubber meets the road against a real pitching staff.
This is how fans get themselves so let down is they think too far ahead. They need a sweep of the Braves at home against 2 of the better pitchers in baseball and an eye opening rookie. Than they have of the clinch wild card round; division round and league championship round which will all be against good pitching. I think your letting your excitement get to far in front.
Nope. They’ll make them come back Monday to play it, if it’s necessary. Atlanta doesn’t have to go anywhere, and they’ll get to face David Peterson for a second time inside of a week, while the Mets will probably have to face Chris Sale again. I expect Atlanta to clinch before that though, so I doubt that game even happens, but they’re screwed either way.
The Phillies are 30-30 since in the 2nd half. The Mets are 35-23. So maybe it wasn't such a big surprise the Mets handled them. The Braves are 32-29. The Mets have scored 13 more runs and given up 35 fewer. So maybe it won't be a big surprise if the Mets win this series. Frankly, I'm not that concerned with the Braves. They are flawed this year. Losing Acuna AND Strider may have damaged their soul. The team that does concern me is the Padres. They are 40-17 (best in the NL) and we will travel to SD for three in the 1st round. They have a 291-206 RS-RA to our 285-216, showing as good as the Mets have been the Friars have been a bit better. After years of great promise and inexplicable disappointment, they have been quietly dominating since the All Star break. What I would like to see is for them to sweep the Dodgers while we sweep the Braves and the Padres win the Division so we don't have to travel to San Diego just yet. Team Aug Sep Mets 15-13 15-5 Braves 16-13 11-9 Padres 18-10 13-5 Dodgers 19-8 11-9 Remaing games Mets 3 @ Atl 3 @ Mil Padres 3 @ LA 3 @ Ari
The Braves are surviving on pitching. Which we saw in the last 2 games Braves vs Mets in New York and Mets vs mariners really good pitching can shut the Mets down. How many times can you ask your starting pitching to come up against good teams;the Mets don’t trust a lot of them middle relief. How many times can Diaz have 6 out saves. That being said I fully believe that it will take a miracle for the Mets to miss the post season. I just don’t see them beating in playoff some of the powerhouse teams
@@benjaminwalters7800 You can ask AND expect your starters to go out and give you 7 strong every time. That is their job. It is a mindset that the Mets have been largely succeeding at since "the meeting". In fact, they have been doing so at a pace that matches or exceeds practically all the other teams, including the Braves and the Phillies,. So whatever doubts you harbor, apply them to the Braves. On 4/26 the Braves were 12 games over 500. They have played +2 games over since then. In that time the Mets are +17 games over 500 (including a 9-19 May). The Mets are better than the Braves and I expect them to win 2 or 3. I don't concern myself with what happened last year or the year before. This is the 2024 Mets and they have proven to be a focused, inspired and a capable team. I expect them to beat the Braves. Its a mindset. Derek Jeter taught me that.
Mets fans are all giants fans tonight also. If diamondbacks loose to the giants tonight that would help the Mets no matter which way the fans tonight goes
That was probably the odds 2 weeks ago; fan graphs have Mets at a 4-1 favorite to get into playoffs. Throw the tie breaker out if Mets go 2 and 4 the Braves need to go 5 and 1. As a Braves fan think the Braves best odds are the diamondbacks falling apart and getting swept by the padres
HERE I am again. Mets fan since 1966. THE METS DO NOT HAVE A NUMBER 1 or NUMBER 2 pitcher and they have not had them all year. We were supposed to have Senga and Yamamoto and when that didn't materialize, Cohen (who is an absolute disgrace) said "eff it" because he never wanted to compete in 2024 anyway. THEN, he failed to get us a real starter at the trade deadline. We got here in spite of his actions, not because of them.
When you have the richest owner in the game, you can build the farm AND still grab FA's to make the current team competitive.. Steinbrenner did if for years. So Cohen was ready to drop 300 mil on Yamamoto and it didn't happen. So he puts the 300 mil back in his pocket. He knew before the deadline that we were a star pitcher away from a deep playoff run and did nothing.
Just one thought in comparing this series with 2022..... different pitching.....a different manager.... and different injuries suggest the two seasons are not comparable......i personally don't think its a worthy discussion regardless of the outcome.
I think the biggest factor of the factor that Atlanta swept the Mets similar situation in 2022; where it factors is if the Braves can pull a game 1 victory out tonight. People going be like what oh no not again. Put added pressure on the Mets. If for some reason the Mets collapsed and missed the post season it would be huge story in media. Atlanta losing and not getting post season not the story as all the injuries
Serious question here is Pete Alonso the new Ryan Howard the Phillies former first baseman? Big power hitting first baseman who fell off the charts out of nowhere, what do you think Ryan 🤔
His defensive twice in the Mets vs Phillies game came up huge. In an off year he is still close to 35 hind runs and 90 runs batted in. I have a feeling he will leave the Mets and put up huge numbers again elsewhere
The storm could be a blessing in disguise. What if we go 1-1 against the Braves and then we take 2-3 from the Brewers and either the braves lose the series against the Royals and the Diamond backs lose to the Padres the game three might not be a must win
The league has to move that Thurs game to an early game, or double-header on Wed to avoid the hurricane. Playing a make-up game on the 30th would be horrible, where we could see Sale a 2nd time in this series.
Exactly.....the league shouldn't allow Sale and the Braves to pitch him twice in the series......the league knows the backlash would not be good for MLB. You almost have to make an immediate decision on a rain date.....
@@johncummings5350 They should do everything possible to avoid the need for a makeup game. But if it comes to that … and if Sale beats the Mets twice to keep them out of the playoffs… that’d be like the most “Mets thing” ever. And I doubt there would be much “backlash.” Outside of Mets World, anyway. I guess it is like a “battered spouse syndrome” sort of deal, but I have a feeling of dread. I genuinely believe the Mets MUST win tonight.
Sale is having a great year...But, he is overdue for a bad game...Remember, as a Red Sox, Sale had his good moments and his VERY BAD moments...Here's to hoping the METS knock him out in the 4th by putting 5 or 6 on the Braves by the time the BP gets called
Predictions are like buttocks..... everyone has one and they often stink. We will find out the outcome once they play. I could actually see just about anything happening..... the first game is the key..... momentum goes a long way and I certainly don't want to let Atlanta walk into the front door by starting with a victory. Don't let the Atlanta fan base become energized....it gets more difficult if that occurs.
If the Mets don’t win the first two games (and I don’t expect they will), they’re cooked, because they’ll likely have to come back to Atlanta to play the third game on Monday (if it’s still necessary). And it would be Peterson vs. Sale again. Even if the Mets have a one-game lead going into that game, a loss gives the Braves the tiebreaker, and thus the WC. I don’t like the Mets’ chances.
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar You must not be a Mets fan.... because they have a two game lead now and the true reality is that they only need one win out of three games to continue to control their own destiny. Atlanta has only one way to control their destiny and that would require Atlanta to sweep the series.
@@johncummings5350 The fact that I’m a devoted pessimist should be a giant clue that I am indeed a Mets fan. Optimism is for suckers who crave disappointment. Yes, the Mets can win just one and technically still control their own destiny, but are you really comfortable with that? (And if so, why?!) Atlanta would have the tiebreaker, so the Mets would have to at least maintain a one game lead in Milwaukee (a house of horrors for the Mets), while the Braves get the collapsing Royals at home. If Atlanta sweeps KC, the Mets would have to sweep Milwaukee. I don’t even like the Mets’ odds of winning two of three in Milwaukee, so better to make the whole thing moot by winning the first two in Atlanta (game three is unlikely to be played until Monday because of the hurricane, unless they decide to play a doubleheader tomorrow).
@@jamesbuckley8917 This is the correct answer-until pitchers stop treating Acuña like a 9th place hitter, and stop throwing him strikes, at which point he will plummet back to earth.
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar He got a good amount of walks in AAA. And when he starts stealing bases they'll throw him strikes again. So as long as he takes the walks and steals, he will stay hot.
@@Thagomizer-U235 He had a 5.5% walk rate in AAA, which is quite a bit below average. He did cut his swinging strike rate down to about 11%, which is roughly average (had been in the 13% range earlier when he was in the Rangers system), but the chase rate is still a little high.
How are the Braves desperate ?? They had an injury filled season with so many players missing most Braves fans know playoffs are not a real reality. Mets should be the scared ones
@@benjaminwatlers1848 In that case, HUGE advantage to Atlanta, because unless they reschedule today or tomorrow as a doubleheader, game 3 (if necessary) won’t be played until Monday, thanks to the hurricane. So Atlanta gets to stay put, while the Mets have to fly back in from Milwaukee. And it’ll very likely be Peterson vs. Sale again.
I believe deap down in My heart the Mets are better than the braves because there a different team then two years ago plus The braves have lot's of injures
Good morning Ryan - if the Mets just play within themselves, they should not lose this series, but realistically, all they really need is one win. So don’t get swept.
No we need at least 2. No way just one. Smell the magic my brother. Enjoy it.
Yeah, one win’s not going to do it. I don’t trust them to maintain a one-game lead while playing in house-of-horrors Milwaukee, while Atlanta gets to play the reeling Royals at home. And really, they need to win the FIRST two games, because Thursday is going to get hurricaned out, which takes Manaea out of the equation (and unless the Mets miraculously clinch in Atlanta, it’ll also take him out of the equation for a potential Wild Card Game 1, because he’ll pitch Friday in Milwaukee). And unless they play a doubleheader today or tomorrow, they’ll have to come back Monday for the series finale, if it’s still necessary, likely started by Peterson. Doesn’t fill me with optimism. Then again, nothing does.
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar na we got this. And royals are fighting for their lives while the brewers are on vaca mode since they are locked in their spots. But we do need two just to bury the Braves for once in my 45 year lifetime!!! LGM!
@@Standdividedfalltogether The Royals are fighting, but they’re getting creamed, and those games are in Atlanta, while the Mets never play well in Milwaukee. It’s not like the Brewers have dominant starting pitchers whom they’ll be resting. What they do have is a dominant bullpen, so it’ll be 4-5 innings of Tobias Meyers or Colin Rea or whoever, followed by that shutdown bullpen (including Tylor’s big bro Trevor Megill). And winning that series may not matter because the finale of THIS series, if necessary, probably won’t be played until Monday, back in Atlanta, which likely means a Peterson vs. Sale rematch for all the marbles. Doesn’t make me feel all warm and fuzzy. Not that anything does. 😆
If the Mets only win 1; than the Braves win the season series meaning that if Sunday comes and the Mets went like 2 and 1 vs the Brewers and the Braves swept the Royals and the records were tied Atlanta goes to post season and the Mets go home.
Good morning Ryan. I believe that no matter how we perform in Atlanta the Diamondbacks will continue to falter down the stretch. LFGM!!!
It’s certainly possible that the Mets and Braves both make it while the Diamondbacks fall out. Regardless of what happens in this series, it would help the Mets a lot for Arizona to keep losing.
Feels like this is the most important game of the series for the Mets to win. If the Mets loose tonight the media that has been waiting for them to collapse will be all over the headlines with the Mets choking. Especially facing Chris Sale in game 2. I think the added pressure on the Mets would be a x factor.
Well, they looked like crap tonight so they earned whatever they hear and read on the media.
When we were 11 games under .500, Cohen said that he isn't the one that makes the day to day baseball operation decisions. He knew when he dismantled the team in 23 that we wouldn't be competitive till 25 or 26 and saw no reason to put a truly competitive team on the field in 2024. He just got lucky that the pitching broke the right way, but you don't compete in short, crucial series without a legit #1 or 2 starter.
I've said it before, but I really think the difference in expectations between the '22 team and this squad is a big factor. On paper, that '22 team was World Series or bust. The pressure to win was enormous. This '24 team feels more organic and relaxed, and I think they can make a deeper run as a result.
I think it depends on tonight; I think if the Braves find a way to win tonight that the media headlines Wednesday from New York will be the "Mets choke again". Than with Sales going Wednesday the media be having a blast that they Mets are going get knocked out. I think if the loss happens tonight that players may try and do too much Wednesday against Sale.
Interestingly enough, I think the two main reasons the Mets are not faltering down the stretch as in past years is: 1. They have an excellent manager this year Mendoza, who learned from time with the Yankees, what it takes to win. 2. They have an influx of youth who have been winners and are unfamiliar with past failures including Alvarez, Acuna, Vientos. 3. With injury to Lindor, who was their main guy all season, the other players knew this was their time to shine! Players like Iglesias, Nimmo and Taylor are playing unbelievably well right now.
I think the Mets will continue to do well and take 2 of 3 for both series.
A few weeks ago people were complaining about Mendoza.
One thing for sure the Mets can keep using Diaz for 6 out saves it’s going catch up to them either this year or next year. Tyler Matzek with the Braves perfect example was a post season work horse and destroyed his arm.
Good morning Ryan let's go Mets don't be surprised 🙀😱😯😳😯😳😯😳😯😳😯😳😯 that we make ws god bless you
Your thinking too far ahead; just think win tonight
The Mets Met!! always remember.. The Mets Met!!
Good morning Ryan Let's go Mets Don't be surprised that we make WS God bless you
This feel nothing like 2022. I’m not waiting for the shoe to drop like 2022. We all felt it coming in 22. This year I feel the steam engine on the tracks!! LFGM!
We were the undertaker and Braves were AJ styles this year.
That’s a good point. 2022 felt like a slow buildup where the Braves were inching closer to us all year. This year the roles were reversed. This team plays more confident and has more fun.
I have watched this team for decades longer than some of the people who comment here. I was blessed to see the 1 championship during my life. From that year on I have seen the very lows & the painful just wasn’t enough. From the dodger in, 88. There was a season I want to say it was 97 where the Mets had to beat the Braves just 1 time to get into the playoffs. They were swept. In 1999 the Mets were down 3-0 & the grand single from Robin Ventura. If anyone was a team of destiny it was that one & they didn’t make it to game 7 of NLCS comeback after comeback ending in a walk from rogers. This was a better team offensively than the 2000 NLCS with 1 in the subway series. 2006 was the year they finally ended the braves dominance (for a little while). Endy’s great catch, wainwright’s curve to Beltran.The phenomenal choking if there ever was 1 in a season kissing a 7 game lead goodbye in 17 games. Then in 2015, watching Familia pretty much single handedly blow every game in 2015 costing them the World Series & the overachieving Mets in 2022 setting up the disaster that was 2023. From generation k to Wright & Reyes to that insane rotation that fizzled out except for Degrom & wheeler. This young core the Mets have complete control for years to come have so much potential. So, I hope I reverse jinx them when I say tonight is the game that they have to win to have any chance against sale (cy young winner) or fried, I thought the Mets couldn’t split the series with the Phillies & they won a 4 game set. This is a different team. I think the Mets are at best going to win tonight, but schewwllenbach (sp) can be very tough. He did extremely well early on. I think if they lose tonight, this magical season is over. I think the Braves pitching stymies this team & may barely win 1 game. Bring out the Tums for the next 6 games, Win or lose as always #LFGM!
The season you’re talking about-when the Mets needed to beat Atlanta once, and failed-was 1998. The defense behind Familia completely abandoned him in the 2015 WS, which didn’t help matters. And I’m not ready to say the Mets have a good young core. There’s potential, but Vientos has WAY overperformed (expect more golden and platinum sombreros, because his zone contact rate is HORRIBLE), Álvarez has been underwhelming, Acuña has benefited from teams not pitching him tough yet, and…well, that’s it for the young guys. Lindor will be 31, Nimmo will be 32, McNeil will be 33, Alonso will be on another team, and we don’t know where those HRs are going to come from. Mauricio missed the entire year, and he swings at everything. Baty looks like he might need a change of scenery. Jett Williams and Drew Gilbert could be solid, if unspectacular regulars, but we don’t even know that yet. There could be some serious growing pains next year.
I think your 100% right is the Mets loose tonight the media coverage; the this is happening again headlines will cause pressure
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar I I think that the players the mets have a few years of control under 34 still include prime years, include Nimmo who is playing hurt after his OPS dropped over 100 points mid-season & to a lesser extent McNeil whose versatility defensively far exceeds any struggles with the bst, Vientos has had a lot of holes in his swing, but he will run into 30 HRs & will give solid run production of 80+ RBIs & 230-240 avg for a few yeears. Alvarez is the streakiest hitter I've ever seen. I saw power regression closer to 20 HRs in a sophomore slide, but when he's hot you can expect big numbers, but probably not going to be a 40 HR player & his framing is the best the mets have had in a very long time. He's extremely young, so as he ages he's going to gsy. He has 30+ HR potential & he's only going to get better. Mets need him to DH a bit to get the most out of his bat. Lindor isn't David Wright, but back issues are going to take away his running game, but this is his team. Edwin Diaz should be more sharp next year. Lock him in for close to 40 saves. The pitching from Peterson & Senga should be pretty solid. Sproat & Tong have incredible upside. I think the mets should let pitchers get their innings in at AA when they're hot & bring them up instead of languishing in AAA purgatory. I don't include Acuña whose overachieving probably & is a defensive replacement pinch runner until proven otherwise, Mauricio has had too small of a sample size but is a big & athletic player, Baty needs to get hot in the minors play some if there's an injury & used as a trade chip. Scott was used improperly, but I see him being a great setup guy & ultimately a closer. That will have to wait after TJ. They needed to start jet in AA. I had no expectations of him impacting the team in a massive way. I think he can be a Jeff McNeil super utility guy. The player who I will include is the power bat that came with the CF. He has 30+ HR potential. He might be another year away.
This doesn't include Blade & some other pitchers who haven't lived up to their potential & a couple of players drafted in the last 2 years. So, I think the mets future is bright & need to lock down these young players after 2 very good years for the fraction of the cost of free agents as many teams have done, so you don't have a degrom/Pete situation & build around them.
Mets have a lot of work in the off-season filling in these gaps bringing back Iglesias & Manea would be a decent start, but need one of the Aces & Alonso will be a lot closer to the 200 than the 300 million & mets should still make a very strong attempt to keep him especially if they can't get Soto, imho. 90 RBIs 35+ HRs every season he played. In 2 not so great years, he'll be the only player in the league to put up those #s. Hiring Boras could totally backfire on him, but some team will offer him at least 230 for 7 years no matter how frustrated we are about his collapse in big moments this year, imho.
Good morning Ryan i believe that no matter how we perform in Atlanta the diamond k will continue to falter down the strech lfgm!!!!
and Thursday is the MU Game from the April 10th rainout
Good Ryan if the Mets just play within themselves they should not lose this series but realistically All they need is one win so don't get sweept
Mets do have more depth in the lineup.....no question....but the reality is you can't necessarily argue that it matters because this series is a SAMPLE SIZE of the entire season. Hopefully the depth factor pays off but the truth is that anybody on the field can over or under achieve..... obviously that's why they play the game. Lindor should be the DH if he's not swinging with pain. I wouldn't play him in the field. It's simply too risky making him bend for 9+ innings. He can stay warm in the dugout with a jacket to avoid his back flaring up on him. JD can sit one out.... his struggles are real at the moment. Obviously....if Lindor feels really good.... they could go a different direction but from the interviews I've seen it's quite apparent that Lindor is not pain free. If he's still battling at 70-80 percent I would be inclined to let him rest. You simply can't take a chance of losing him for the playoffs. By the way....the discussion of Peterson or Quintana pitching in this series is a toss up..... Peterson has been awesome but had a recent bad outing. Quintana has been up and down but recently has been excellent. Regardless.... the brewers series will likely see Quintana on the mound and that series very well may have implications. Therefore they both will have their opportunity.
It sure seems like they have all the momentum right? No way things could change now, right?!!
Momentum can change in a heart beat. IF Atlanta were to win tonight than the media hype about facing Chris sale all day Wednesday could really change the momentum.
We've got this.
Its All in the Mets hands at this point don't have to depend on anyone at All but themselves
Good pitching always beats good hitting. Cohen decided we will just have a group of journeymen and reclamation projects as a pitching staff this year. As far as Peterson and McGill go, half the people on this site were calling for their heads last year. Cohen gave us a staff worthy of a .500 season, if that. They have excelled past anyone's imagination, but now the rubber meets the road against a real pitching staff.
The Pitching matchups is gonna make the difference in this Washington series
?? Mets have no more Washington series leftn
2006 was supposed to be Mets tigers. Get ready!
Can’t wait to smoke these woooaaass tonight!!!! LETS GOOO!!!
They will clinch it for this series Mets Will go far don't be surprised that we make the ws
It's possible. I definitely think that they make it to the LCS.
This is how fans get themselves so let down is they think too far ahead. They need a sweep of the Braves at home against 2 of the better pitchers in baseball and an eye opening rookie. Than they have of the clinch wild card round; division round and league championship round which will all be against good pitching.
I think your letting your excitement get to far in front.
Ryan, do you think mlb will move the Thursday game to a neutral site?
Nope. They’ll make them come back Monday to play it, if it’s necessary. Atlanta doesn’t have to go anywhere, and they’ll get to face David Peterson for a second time inside of a week, while the Mets will probably have to face Chris Sale again. I expect Atlanta to clinch before that though, so I doubt that game even happens, but they’re screwed either way.
I don't see them playing games 2 and 3 this week. Rain will be too heavy.
I hope we don’t face a situation where Thursdays game is lost and has to be made up on Monday. It won’t be good I don’t think for baseball
They will clinch it for this series. Mets will go far. Don't be surprised that we make the WS.
Didn't you say the same thing in 2015?
You must love the NY Mets very much
@@davidjackson2832You must love the Mets very much. You got plenty of company. Haters are really lovers in disguise
The Phillies are 30-30 since in the 2nd half. The Mets are 35-23. So maybe it wasn't such a big surprise the Mets handled them. The Braves are 32-29. The Mets have scored 13 more runs and given up 35 fewer. So maybe it won't be a big surprise if the Mets win this series. Frankly, I'm not that concerned with the Braves. They are flawed this year. Losing Acuna AND Strider may have damaged their soul.
The team that does concern me is the Padres. They are 40-17 (best in the NL) and we will travel to SD for three in the 1st round. They have a 291-206 RS-RA to our 285-216, showing as good as the Mets have been the Friars have been a bit better. After years of great promise and inexplicable disappointment, they have been quietly dominating since the All Star break. What I would like to see is for them to sweep the Dodgers while we sweep the Braves and the Padres win the Division so we don't have to travel to San Diego just yet.
Team Aug Sep
Mets 15-13 15-5
Braves 16-13 11-9
Padres 18-10 13-5
Dodgers 19-8 11-9
Remaing games
Mets 3 @ Atl 3 @ Mil
Padres 3 @ LA 3 @ Ari
The Braves are surviving on pitching. Which we saw in the last 2 games Braves vs Mets in New York and Mets vs mariners really good pitching can shut the Mets down.
How many times can you ask your starting pitching to come up against good teams;the Mets don’t trust a lot of them middle relief. How many times can Diaz have 6 out saves.
That being said I fully believe that it will take a miracle for the Mets to miss the post season. I just don’t see them beating in playoff some of the powerhouse teams
@@benjaminwalters7800 You can ask AND expect your starters to go out and give you 7 strong every time. That is their job. It is a mindset that the Mets have been largely succeeding at since "the meeting". In fact, they have been doing so at a pace that matches or exceeds practically all the other teams, including the Braves and the Phillies,. So whatever doubts you harbor, apply them to the Braves.
On 4/26 the Braves were 12 games over 500. They have played +2 games over since then. In that time the Mets are +17 games over 500 (including a 9-19 May). The Mets are better than the Braves and I expect them to win 2 or 3. I don't concern myself with what happened last year or the year before. This is the 2024 Mets and they have proven to be a focused, inspired and a capable team. I expect them to beat the Braves. Its a mindset. Derek Jeter taught me that.
@@benjaminwalters7800 The Mets are getting swept out of the post season
Mets fans are all giants fans tonight also. If diamondbacks loose to the giants tonight that would help the Mets no matter which way the fans tonight goes
Hoi Ryan, I asked Ai Copilit what are the odds of the Mets getting to the wildcard It told me 13.3 % pretty scary.
Well my Magic 8 Ball said we’re going to win the World Series. And it’s never wrong.
That was probably the odds 2 weeks ago; fan graphs have Mets at a 4-1 favorite to get into playoffs.
Throw the tie breaker out if Mets go 2 and 4 the Braves need to go 5 and 1.
As a Braves fan think the Braves best odds are the diamondbacks falling apart and getting swept by the padres
HERE I am again. Mets fan since 1966. THE METS DO NOT HAVE A NUMBER 1 or NUMBER 2 pitcher and they have not had them all year. We were supposed to have Senga and Yamamoto and when that didn't materialize, Cohen (who is an absolute disgrace) said "eff it" because he never wanted to compete in 2024 anyway. THEN, he failed to get us a real starter at the trade deadline. We got here in spite of his actions, not because of them.
It’s all in the Mets hands at this point, don’t have to depend on anyone at all but themselves.
When you have the richest owner in the game, you can build the farm AND still grab FA's to make the current team competitive.. Steinbrenner did if for years. So Cohen was ready to drop 300 mil on Yamamoto and it didn't happen. So he puts the 300 mil back in his pocket. He knew before the deadline that we were a star pitcher away from a deep playoff run and did nothing.
Just one thought in comparing this series with 2022..... different pitching.....a different manager.... and different injuries suggest the two seasons are not comparable......i personally don't think its a worthy discussion regardless of the outcome.
I think the biggest factor of the factor that Atlanta swept the Mets similar situation in 2022; where it factors is if the Braves can pull a game 1 victory out tonight. People going be like what oh no not again. Put added pressure on the Mets.
If for some reason the Mets collapsed and missed the post season it would be huge story in media. Atlanta losing and not getting post season not the story as all the injuries
Serious question here is Pete Alonso the new
Ryan Howard the Phillies former first baseman?
Big power hitting first baseman who fell off the charts out of nowhere, what do you think Ryan 🤔
dang, thats on point. feels like that’ll be the case.
I'm not sure this is just an off year. This may be what he is for age 30.
His defensive twice in the Mets vs Phillies game came up huge.
In an off year he is still close to 35 hind runs and 90 runs batted in.
I have a feeling he will leave the Mets and put up huge numbers again elsewhere
The storm could be a blessing in disguise. What if we go 1-1 against the Braves and then we take 2-3 from the Brewers and either the braves lose the series against the Royals and the Diamond backs lose to the Padres the game three might not be a must win
Also could mean that Mets have to face Chris Sale Wednesday and Monday.
I will happy if Lindor come back but If he can't field the ball then jus let him hit dh
Why don't play Lindor as the DH ?
If he is not heathy and you play him and he gets hurt more he is missing the potential playoffs. Mets won’t go far without him
First game is must win game two sale is probably a loos and game three is a toss up by far
The league has to move that Thurs game to an early game, or double-header on Wed to avoid the hurricane. Playing a make-up game on the 30th would be horrible, where we could see Sale a 2nd time in this series.
Good point.
@@dashx1103they better make the adjustment soon !
Exactly.....the league shouldn't allow Sale and the Braves to pitch him twice in the series......the league knows the backlash would not be good for MLB. You almost have to make an immediate decision on a rain date.....
@@johncummings5350 They should do everything possible to avoid the need for a makeup game. But if it comes to that … and if Sale beats the Mets twice to keep them out of the playoffs… that’d be like the most “Mets thing” ever. And I doubt there would be much “backlash.” Outside of Mets World, anyway.
I guess it is like a “battered spouse syndrome” sort of deal, but I have a feeling of dread. I genuinely believe the Mets MUST win tonight.
😂😂this coming from fans who wanted Quintana off the team, rewind the video 😂😂😂😂😂
Short answer no
1st game is a must win. Game 2 Sale is probably a loss. And game 3 is toss up.
Sale is having a great year...But, he is overdue for a bad game...Remember, as a Red Sox, Sale had his good moments and his VERY BAD moments...Here's to hoping the METS knock him out in the 4th by putting 5 or 6 on the Braves by the time the BP gets called
Predictions are like buttocks..... everyone has one and they often stink. We will find out the outcome once they play. I could actually see just about anything happening..... the first game is the key..... momentum goes a long way and I certainly don't want to let Atlanta walk into the front door by starting with a victory. Don't let the Atlanta fan base become energized....it gets more difficult if that occurs.
If the Mets don’t win the first two games (and I don’t expect they will), they’re cooked, because they’ll likely have to come back to Atlanta to play the third game on Monday (if it’s still necessary). And it would be Peterson vs. Sale again. Even if the Mets have a one-game lead going into that game, a loss gives the Braves the tiebreaker, and thus the WC. I don’t like the Mets’ chances.
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar You must not be a Mets fan.... because they have a two game lead now and the true reality is that they only need one win out of three games to continue to control their own destiny. Atlanta has only one way to control their destiny and that would require Atlanta to sweep the series.
@@johncummings5350 The fact that I’m a devoted pessimist should be a giant clue that I am indeed a Mets fan. Optimism is for suckers who crave disappointment. Yes, the Mets can win just one and technically still control their own destiny, but are you really comfortable with that? (And if so, why?!) Atlanta would have the tiebreaker, so the Mets would have to at least maintain a one game lead in Milwaukee (a house of horrors for the Mets), while the Braves get the collapsing Royals at home. If Atlanta sweeps KC, the Mets would have to sweep Milwaukee. I don’t even like the Mets’ odds of winning two of three in Milwaukee, so better to make the whole thing moot by winning the first two in Atlanta (game three is unlikely to be played until Monday because of the hurricane, unless they decide to play a doubleheader tomorrow).
If Lindor comes back, what happens with Acuna?0
This is an amazing problem for them. Too many good players. Stick em at 2nd and platoon with Iglesias?
The ONLY answer is put Acuna in CF, Taylor in RF.
@@jamesbuckley8917 This is the correct answer-until pitchers stop treating Acuña like a 9th place hitter, and stop throwing him strikes, at which point he will plummet back to earth.
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar He got a good amount of walks in AAA. And when he starts stealing bases they'll throw him strikes again. So as long as he takes the walks and steals, he will stay hot.
@@Thagomizer-U235 He had a 5.5% walk rate in AAA, which is quite a bit below average. He did cut his swinging strike rate down to about 11%, which is roughly average (had been in the 13% range earlier when he was in the Rangers system), but the chase rate is still a little high.
I believe the Mets are better than the braves
Mets can’t a playoff spot any sooner than Friday now.
The braves are desperate it's important to make the first game tonight to keep them from getting momentum
How are the Braves desperate ?? They had an injury filled season with so many players missing most Braves fans know playoffs are not a real reality. Mets should be the scared ones
We will sweep them and Lindor is coming back i hope , we will play inspired baseball let’s go beat the braves !!!
I don't see the Mets being able to sweep or the Brave either being able to sweep
Another hurricane is coming
JD Martinez is unfortunately washed. Great guy, great career, but it’s over. Pulling the plug on him seems like the only logical thing to do.
I expect the Mets to get swept. Pessimism forever!
I think it will go game 1 to mets; game 2 to braves and game 3 deciding everything
@@benjaminwatlers1848 In that case, HUGE advantage to Atlanta, because unless they reschedule today or tomorrow as a doubleheader, game 3 (if necessary) won’t be played until Monday, thanks to the hurricane. So Atlanta gets to stay put, while the Mets have to fly back in from Milwaukee. And it’ll very likely be Peterson vs. Sale again.
Mets will win if the Braves don't cheat like they did in 2022.
How did the braves cheat in 2022?
Lmao
Clinch? LOL.
Let’s Go Mets World Champs 2024..
I believe deap down in My heart the Mets are better than the braves because there a different team then two years ago plus The braves have lot's of injures
I will be optimistic the Mets are better than the braves for sure
Why?! You’re just setting yourself up for disappointment. Better to be a pessimist; at least that way, you might be pleasantly surprised.
The braves are desperate. It's important to take the first game tonight to keep them from getting momentum.
Good point. Don’t let them feel like they have a chance.
Good point don't let them feel like they have a chance