Af seems to be better than some of the other reviewers. It seems like some folks have their shutter on release priority (factory default) vs focus priority. That seems to be a big factor on af hits. Great review.
That’s the thing, it’s supposed to be on release priority. Focus can slow it down. That’s one of the changes I had to make in my old Sony camera as it was on focus.
I was disappointed with my XH2 AF performance until I found the shutter release default. Since switching it to focus priority, I'm happy. With shutter on high burst, it definitely reduces the frames taken (sounds stuttery), but I'd much rather that than a heap of out of focus shots that I'd be discarding anyway.
Fuji EVER focus prio! And there is a trap in the menue: Even if you choose focus prio, but AF+MF is ON, the camera switches to release prio 🤦🏼♂️. So AF+MF should be ever OUT, if you use AF-C / tracking.
Love the amazing shots of your dog! Looks like the X-T5 kept up very well. Great demonstration of bird eye autofocus event throught the branches! Thanks for showing both lenses.
Hi Kirk! Missing these review videos! Its a fact of a focus improvement! Thank You great see your work being presented in such a positive way and great content. Cheers Carlos
I haven't done a lot of fast action photography with my X-T5 yet so I'm glad you have us some samples. In general, about what I was expecting (a good thing). Hopefully a few firmware updates will make it even better. Thanks for the great content Kirk!
Not used the XT5 a lot yet. I’m using it tonight for a portrait shoot with the xc35 (new lens for me). I have the 100-400, I hope to use the XT5 with it soon. You showed some amazing potential for the Fuji kit. Great video, thanks.
Love your dog Kirk, I moved from the XT3 to XH2 (40mp) and it is definitely much improved focus speed on it , looking forwards to summer and putting it through its paces
So far Ian I’m loving most everything about the camera. Really like the 7 custom settings for still and video. I’ve been trying some Fuji X weekly film sim recipes there are some cool ones.
In my experience if I don't have any trees, mountains, clouds etc. in the background, tracking will occasionally stay locked on medium-sized birds (ducks, hawks etc. and larger slow-moving types, like eagles) in flight. There are many reviews here on TH-cam regarding the Fuji X-T5 and the 400mm lens but your best bet is Trial and Error. Do also take into account overcast cloudy days vs bright sunny days 😉 HAVE FUN!
Good video Kirk, I’m really glad that it’s working out for you, I’ve seen very mixed reviews on the X-T5, some with terrible results, especially with the AF-C. There’s a you-tuber (Jerred Z) testing the camera and he had some serious focusing issues. I’m going to wait a while before I upgrade from the X-T4. Be well and stay safe.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography he was running boost, but AF-C with RELEASE priority. this is the default and seems to be a big issue, the camera just doesn't focus the person/eye quickly enough and so when you press the button it does as told and fires instantly and you are a hair out of focus. I switched to focus priority on my X-T5 and the hit rate went way up. the bottom line is there a bunch of settings that makes fast autofocus better including: boost, focus priority, af only (not af+mf), eye detect etc. but here is the thing if we are being honest... NONE of those settings are default. you have to KNOW the camera and set them and then it gets better. all well and good but on a canon or sony in 2022 you can pretty much put it in any mode, point at a target and fire and get 95%+ hit rate in focus. I love my fuji's including my new x-t5, but the autofocus just remains so far off what the competition is doing... won't matter for MOST shooters, but jeez, its nice to know it is there when you need it.
@@canyonblue737-8 I don't put a ton of stock in Jerred's "test" - too many variables to test autofocus objectively, in general. Other Fuji users and websites confirm that, in AF-C zone modes at least, the latest Fuji cameras produce extremely high (80-100%) hit rates. The information is also out there also that Fuji's "tracking" hit rates are around 40-50% vs. the "state of the art" results from Sony or Canon achieving about 80%. Given how hard it is to objectively evaluate autofocus, it is nice to know that the performance is there for Fuji users given the right conditions and techniques. All you have to do is switch off the tracking nannies and embrace more traditional focus modes. I'm guess a lot of pros DO NOT lean on tracking features for the same reasons they don't shoot their cameras on "AUTO" exposure. That said, I sympathize--if Fuji is going to offer these features they should work great out of the box. Then again, with these pro-grade cameras, I want control, not more "auto" modes, per se. I don't want my camera to behave like my smart phone. I'll note, for the sake of lets call it "focus gate", that my XT3 shows me where it focused in the playback menu. Just tap the joystick "up" on a photo you took until you see a thumbnail of the photo with small green crosshairs. Sometimes, the focus point is where I wanted it, but the image is a little blurry. Sometimes, the focus point was definitely not where I wanted it, but its a pretty usable photo. But I don't know if the body, the lens, the shooter, or the subject blew the final result. Only Fuji knows! There are a lot of factors at work so my main advice would be to just keep shooting - and shoot to test - break out of your usual preferred apertures and focus modes and so on and pay attention to your results.
Excellent review. Love the Golden Retriever; we had one a few years back. On my XT5, I tend to use non-subject AF-C, single or zone AF Mode, Custom Setting 6 (0/1/Front), CL (7fps) and get good results from our running dog (like you with either a 70-300 or 100-400). I have come to a view that the subject settings need so much processing power that I get better results from the traditional method of placing the green box on the subject and tracking it myself. Thus, until the subject tracking features are more accurate, sticky and reliable, perhaps with a firmware update, they are currently in the realm of a marketing gimmick. But do the work oneself and the XT5 is excellent.
Thank fot the video, Kirk. it is great! I bought X-T5 to have the subject autofocus when taking pictures with my dogs. So far I am not getting such good results as you did. Could you, please, share the details of focus setting, please? What autofocus mode do you use with the subject detection? Thank you.
thx for the Video! im still torn between the Canon R6 with the RF 100-500 and the xt5 and the XF 150-600. I do love fuji, but the Canon is another league and im always frustrated by the hit rate of my xt3 when it comes to small birds. Getting the xt5 in a frew days to test myself so fingers crossed. cheers from Germany
Another great one. You got super shots in wide tracking which surprised me. I do well with zone and face/eye on but never got 100%. Did you use wide tracking with the birds?
I'm pretty sure that eye detection was turned off. The camera automatically uses eye detection for animal and bird. So there is no need for you to turn it on. You only turn it on for humans. I used AF-C custom setting #3.
I don't know why, but whenever I watch fuji raw samples I see softness comparing to sony/canon raw samples, is that x-trans thing or some default processing from fuji camera, is it possible to turn it off and get really sharp images without these hidden processing, to get same sharpness level as sony/canon cameras? Would love to move to fuji on x-t5 or h2, but this softness holding me back as im hardcore pixel peeper. Heard that it's some anti aberration filter that makes this softnesss, but can't find any information if it can be turned off in raw files?
Great video Kirk! Can you share you settings for the shoot with the 50-140. Surprised that one missed some shots. Also, was OIS on or off during this entire test? I have a theory that people are struggling with AF-C shooting in part because of shutter speed/OIS on when it shouldn’t be. That and the weird pulsing/hunting that a lot of lenses seem to do.
@@Sam-vd8uk The Short answer is that it can introduce blur into your shots - particularly in this sort of fast action photography like birds flying in to a landing or dogs running done in this video. If you have to move or track to keep the subject in frame, OIS/IBIS is likely fighting you, not helping you. Not to mention, if you are really trying to "freeze" the action, you are running shutter speeds that OIS/IBIS does not benefit. If you haven't, try shooting without it.
Matt - Fujifilm has stated that the OIS can detect whether the camera is on a tripod or not and will compensate if needed. I'm pretty sure that OIS was still on when I shot everything. Lens and camera body. Camera body set to Shooting only.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography Thanks Kirk. In my experience "shooting only" is the right/better setting to use in mixed stationary subject/active subject shooting with shutters around 1/100 - 1/250 or so. But I do think it has cost me sharp focus from time to time when tracking something, even with the 50-140 which is an awesome and fast lens. That 70-300 getting a 100% hit rate is awesome btw. Great little lens I'd love to try someday.
I had all the right settings for afc including focus priority. The issue is with false positives. I get a green box and the actual picture turns out to be out of focus.
Annara, not sure why that is happening. Af-c setting is pre-set #3. Try using single point or zone experiment a little to see what works for you. Make sure your shutter speed is high.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography In my experience - not much difference in AF from the X-T4. There are other things to recommend it though (not including 40Mbps). The main one being 7 control presets each for video and photogrpaghy. So that makes 14 in total. This is way better than either the X-H2 or X-H2S. The smaller form factor also makes it a lot nice to carry around. Not everyting is just about performance specs.
I think fuji should automatically detect what the subject is, why the user need to set it in the menu is just not fast enough for the zoo, first a bird then a dog then a human etc, hope this will be updated in firmware
Well if you are taking photos of dog and there’s a guy walked into your frame, should the camera focus on the guy instead? I think it make sense you tell your camera what your subject is.
And, pray tell, how many Fuji cameras have you shot with? You sound as if you have a wealth of experience with this system, please enlighten us with your knowledge.
I am a professional photographer; it is now clear from the number of people who have had the same problem as me that there are batches of DEFECTIVE XT5 cameras around, but Fuji will never admit it to avoid economic problems, evidently an unserious attitude. I have been using Fuji cameras for almost 15 years and have owned various models, whose autofocus was precise but always slower than other brands I was using at the same time. Now, however, spending almost 2000 euros to have an obviously defective professional camera I consider it not very serious and bordering on a rip-off
The 70-300 is amazing. Love the bird images
Even better Mark is that the lens now continuously focuses while zooming with the latest firmware.
I am impressed with the 70-300 for small birds, thanks for this. Keen to try xt5 for this. Loved the dog pics too
It seemed to work fine for me. Enjoy!
Af seems to be better than some of the other reviewers. It seems like some folks have their shutter on release priority (factory default) vs focus priority. That seems to be a big factor on af hits. Great review.
That’s the thing, it’s supposed to be on release priority. Focus can slow it down. That’s one of the changes I had to make in my old Sony camera as it was on focus.
For the dog photos it was on focus priority.
@@Vern_Levine Hmmm. Maybe that’s why most reviewers are getting a much higher percentage af hit rate on Sony than Fujifilm.
I was disappointed with my XH2 AF performance until I found the shutter release default. Since switching it to focus priority, I'm happy. With shutter on high burst, it definitely reduces the frames taken (sounds stuttery), but I'd much rather that than a heap of out of focus shots that I'd be discarding anyway.
Fuji EVER focus prio! And there is a trap in the menue: Even if you choose focus prio, but AF+MF is ON, the camera switches to release prio 🤦🏼♂️. So AF+MF should be ever OUT, if you use AF-C / tracking.
Great looking bird pics, good work! Auto focus seems to be doing its job. Still waiting for my X-T5.
I think you will love it Dan - when it shows up.
Loved the video Kirk, really gives confidence going out to shoot small birds. Great stuff!
It should work awesome.
Thanks for the video Kirk! There seems to be mixed reviews on the X-T5. It seems to be doing great for you.
Ye sBob I don't know what their problems are because I don't watch them. So far for me it's been great.
Love the amazing shots of your dog! Looks like the X-T5 kept up very well. Great demonstration of bird eye autofocus event throught the branches! Thanks for showing both lenses.
Hi Kirk! Missing these review videos! Its a fact of a focus improvement! Thank You great see your work being presented in such a positive way and great content. Cheers Carlos
Thanks - I want to get out and shoot adventures more. Less reviews more shooting.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography Totally!! Cheers
8:46 really nice image. I love how the bird pops against the background.
Harold - Thanks I can't remember if it was LR magic or not.
Great review. Pleasantly different from all the grouchy ones we can often see.
I haven't done a lot of fast action photography with my X-T5 yet so I'm glad you have us some samples. In general, about what I was expecting (a good thing). Hopefully a few firmware updates will make it even better. Thanks for the great content Kirk!
Thanks Steve. So far the camera has been great.
Not used the XT5 a lot yet. I’m using it tonight for a portrait shoot with the xc35 (new lens for me). I have the 100-400, I hope to use the XT5 with it soon. You showed some amazing potential for the Fuji kit. Great video, thanks.
Alan you are going to love it.
Love your dog Kirk, I moved from the XT3 to XH2 (40mp) and it is definitely much improved focus speed on it , looking forwards to summer and putting it through its paces
So far Ian I’m loving most everything about the camera. Really like the 7 custom settings for still and video. I’ve been trying some Fuji X weekly film sim recipes there are some cool ones.
Great video Kirk. As always.;
Thanks Colin!
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography I’ll be out at sunrise for a stroll myself could be a chilly one here in the hills.
In my experience if I don't have any trees, mountains, clouds etc. in the background, tracking will occasionally stay locked on medium-sized birds (ducks, hawks etc. and larger slow-moving types,
like eagles) in flight.
There are many reviews here on TH-cam regarding the Fuji X-T5 and the 400mm lens but your best bet is Trial and Error. Do also take into account overcast cloudy days vs bright sunny days 😉 HAVE FUN!
So far the AF-C has been pretty good but not like the Canon R6 I just used for sports.
I'd be interested if you have compared the results of this with the OM System OM-1. I hear its pretty good also.
I have not - I don't have access to an OM system.
Good video Kirk, I’m really glad that it’s working out for you, I’ve seen very mixed reviews on the X-T5, some with terrible results, especially with the AF-C. There’s a you-tuber (Jerred Z) testing the camera and he had some serious focusing issues. I’m going to wait a while before I upgrade from the X-T4. Be well and stay safe.
Thanks Enrique. Not sure what Jerred is doing wrong but it has to be something.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography he was running boost, but AF-C with RELEASE priority. this is the default and seems to be a big issue, the camera just doesn't focus the person/eye quickly enough and so when you press the button it does as told and fires instantly and you are a hair out of focus. I switched to focus priority on my X-T5 and the hit rate went way up. the bottom line is there a bunch of settings that makes fast autofocus better including: boost, focus priority, af only (not af+mf), eye detect etc. but here is the thing if we are being honest... NONE of those settings are default. you have to KNOW the camera and set them and then it gets better. all well and good but on a canon or sony in 2022 you can pretty much put it in any mode, point at a target and fire and get 95%+ hit rate in focus. I love my fuji's including my new x-t5, but the autofocus just remains so far off what the competition is doing... won't matter for MOST shooters, but jeez, its nice to know it is there when you need it.
Yes that's correct. Whenever I get a new Fuji body (not very often) I switch it to focus priority.
@@canyonblue737-8 I don't put a ton of stock in Jerred's "test" - too many variables to test autofocus objectively, in general. Other Fuji users and websites confirm that, in AF-C zone modes at least, the latest Fuji cameras produce extremely high (80-100%) hit rates. The information is also out there also that Fuji's "tracking" hit rates are around 40-50% vs. the "state of the art" results from Sony or Canon achieving about 80%. Given how hard it is to objectively evaluate autofocus, it is nice to know that the performance is there for Fuji users given the right conditions and techniques. All you have to do is switch off the tracking nannies and embrace more traditional focus modes. I'm guess a lot of pros DO NOT lean on tracking features for the same reasons they don't shoot their cameras on "AUTO" exposure. That said, I sympathize--if Fuji is going to offer these features they should work great out of the box. Then again, with these pro-grade cameras, I want control, not more "auto" modes, per se. I don't want my camera to behave like my smart phone.
I'll note, for the sake of lets call it "focus gate", that my XT3 shows me where it focused in the playback menu. Just tap the joystick "up" on a photo you took until you see a thumbnail of the photo with small green crosshairs. Sometimes, the focus point is where I wanted it, but the image is a little blurry. Sometimes, the focus point was definitely not where I wanted it, but its a pretty usable photo. But I don't know if the body, the lens, the shooter, or the subject blew the final result. Only Fuji knows! There are a lot of factors at work so my main advice would be to just keep shooting - and shoot to test - break out of your usual preferred apertures and focus modes and so on and pay attention to your results.
Hi Kirk did you do any post production on the bird shots (sharpening etc)
I only processed with my normal LR presets no extra sharpening.
Excellent review. Love the Golden Retriever; we had one a few years back. On my XT5, I tend to use non-subject AF-C, single or zone AF Mode, Custom Setting 6 (0/1/Front), CL (7fps) and get good results from our running dog (like you with either a 70-300 or 100-400). I have come to a view that the subject settings need so much processing power that I get better results from the traditional method of placing the green box on the subject and tracking it myself. Thus, until the subject tracking features are more accurate, sticky and reliable, perhaps with a firmware update, they are currently in the realm of a marketing gimmick. But do the work oneself and the XT5 is excellent.
I do that with sports with the X-T3 and it works pretty good. I was just testing out the subject detection feature.
Thank fot the video, Kirk. it is great! I bought X-T5 to have the subject autofocus when taking pictures with my dogs. So far I am not getting such good results as you did. Could you, please, share the details of focus setting, please? What autofocus mode do you use with the subject detection? Thank you.
I used the animal detection, wide tracking, AFS-C #3, and electronic shutter at 20fps.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography Thank you for sharing this information 👍🙃
thx for the Video! im still torn between the Canon R6 with the RF 100-500 and the xt5 and the XF 150-600. I do love fuji, but the Canon is another league and im always frustrated by the hit rate of my xt3 when it comes to small birds. Getting the xt5 in a frew days to test myself so fingers crossed. cheers from Germany
The X-T5 worked great for birds.
Another great one. You got super shots in wide tracking which surprised me. I do well with zone and face/eye on but never got 100%. Did you use wide tracking with the birds?
I had it set to wide because I was worried about going out of the zone. It seemed to work
Hello from Germany. Do you have the new update on your T5? Have you tested the autofocus now? Better?
Volker, it seems much improved with the latest update.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography "It seams"? you prove / test ist?
do you add subject detection animal when selecting #3 for the choice and eye detection?
I'm pretty sure that eye detection was turned off. The camera automatically uses eye detection for animal and bird. So there is no need for you to turn it on. You only turn it on for humans. I used AF-C custom setting #3.
I don't know why, but whenever I watch fuji raw samples I see softness comparing to sony/canon raw samples, is that x-trans thing or some default processing from fuji camera, is it possible to turn it off and get really sharp images without these hidden processing, to get same sharpness level as sony/canon cameras? Would love to move to fuji on x-t5 or h2, but this softness holding me back as im hardcore pixel peeper.
Heard that it's some anti aberration filter that makes this softnesss, but can't find any information if it can be turned off in raw files?
Happy days Kirk, more than good enough for me and cheaper than the Z9 lol.
Works for me!
YEA GREAT DEMO I LIKE IT
Many Thanks!
Great video Kirk! Can you share you settings for the shoot with the 50-140. Surprised that one missed some shots. Also, was OIS on or off during this entire test? I have a theory that people are struggling with AF-C shooting in part because of shutter speed/OIS on when it shouldn’t be. That and the weird pulsing/hunting that a lot of lenses seem to do.
why should ois be off?
@@Sam-vd8uk The Short answer is that it can introduce blur into your shots - particularly in this sort of fast action photography like birds flying in to a landing or dogs running done in this video. If you have to move or track to keep the subject in frame, OIS/IBIS is likely fighting you, not helping you. Not to mention, if you are really trying to "freeze" the action, you are running shutter speeds that OIS/IBIS does not benefit. If you haven't, try shooting without it.
Matt - Fujifilm has stated that the OIS can detect whether the camera is on a tripod or not and will compensate if needed. I'm pretty sure that OIS was still on when I shot everything. Lens and camera body. Camera body set to Shooting only.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography Thanks Kirk. In my experience "shooting only" is the right/better setting to use in mixed stationary subject/active subject shooting with shutters around 1/100 - 1/250 or so. But I do think it has cost me sharp focus from time to time when tracking something, even with the 50-140 which is an awesome and fast lens. That 70-300 getting a 100% hit rate is awesome btw. Great little lens I'd love to try someday.
I had all the right settings for afc including focus priority. The issue is with false positives. I get a green box and the actual picture turns out to be out of focus.
Annara, not sure why that is happening. Af-c setting is pre-set #3. Try using single point or zone experiment a little to see what works for you. Make sure your shutter speed is high.
Have you decided to keep the XT5 or are you still in the review process?
Hi Russell, I’m going to keep it. The ibis , better AF, three way tilt screen and numerous features do make it a photographers camera.
So how does it compare to xt4’s autofocus?
Much better than when I used the X-T4.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography In my experience - not much difference in AF from the X-T4. There are other things to recommend it though (not including 40Mbps). The main one being 7 control presets each for video and photogrpaghy. So that makes 14 in total. This is way better than either the X-H2 or X-H2S. The smaller form factor also makes it a lot nice to carry around. Not everyting is just about performance specs.
So did you depart from ypur X-H1 yet...
Nope still have it. Looks like I'll be keeping it for now for studio video. Will be selling my X-T30 and two lenses.
Could you share your hit rate on those small birds? Thanks so much.
Scott - Pretty close to 95% I would say.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography Well that's acceptable. Thanks so much.
If you zoom in at 100% we’ll be able to tell if there sharp or not
Ya i zoomed in too much
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography you can’t tell wether eye AF is sharp enough unless you zoom in to 100%. I can’t tell looking at your video
I think fuji should automatically detect what the subject is, why the user need to set it in the menu is just not fast enough for the zoo, first a bird then a dog then a human etc, hope this will be updated in firmware
Well if you are taking photos of dog and there’s a guy walked into your frame, should the camera focus on the guy instead? I think it make sense you tell your camera what your subject is.
I know that Nikon has the auto detect feature but I have it on good info that it does not work very well.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography Canon has it and it work very well, so the problem is not with the tech but with the implementation
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography support.usa.canon.com/kb/index?page=content&id=ART178265 you can give priority if needed on canon.
Lars I would expect Canon to have it. So that makes sense.
a lot of AF problems with XT5 : Fuji cameras never again;
don't waste your money
I have no issues shooting sports with my XT5. No AF issues.
And, pray tell, how many Fuji cameras have you shot with? You sound as if you have a wealth of experience with this system, please enlighten us with your knowledge.
I am a professional photographer; it is now clear from the number of people who have had the same problem as me that there are batches of DEFECTIVE XT5 cameras around, but Fuji will never admit it to avoid economic problems, evidently an unserious attitude. I have been using Fuji cameras for almost 15 years and have owned various models, whose autofocus was precise
but always slower than other brands I was using at the same time. Now, however, spending almost 2000 euros to have an obviously defective professional camera I consider it not very serious and bordering on a rip-off