He was as real as you got em and what he thought about rolling around in the mud with them wasn't ****. He did whatever took and had no shame about it.
When they got the heroin addict father to call his son the cop killer to come home and the rest of the squad walked in on Vic torturing him. "You look fine to me"
If Vic and his group hadn't been so greedy shaking down criminals for profit, the other cops would have been happy to keep him around as an attack dog. But hey, that wouldn't have been as compelling of a show, would it?
@@ronarnold1507 Except that when you give someone free rein to break the rules, you can't expect them to only break the ones you want him to break. There's a reason Cincinattus is one of the most revered figures in political history, because pretty much every other person in history who has been given carte blanche to do what needs doing sooner or later either enriches themselves, targets personal enemies, or destroys the entire system, or all of the above.
The Shield is an absolute masterpiece, imo the best drama tv show in history. It had a great and captivating pilot, built up the tension throughout the seasons with interesting stories and characters, and wrapped it up with a perfect finale. If you’ve never watched this show, you should.
@@PatF3nis i think The Shield is better than both the "Wire" and "Sopranos" because "The Shield" sticks the landing. Last season of "Wire" got iffy and doesn't compare to any of the earlier ones, and Sopranos had dips throughout
It's also a rare show where the pilot episode comes back to matter in the final episode. The Shield's pilot wasn't just a random one off in hopes of getting picked up by the network. The longterm storytelling and writing of this show is UNMATCHED.
The Shield is the rare show where the pilot episode comes back to matter in the final episode. The Shield's pilot wasn't just a random one off in hopes of getting picked up by the network. The longterm storytelling and writing of this show is UNMATCHED.
Dutch liked vics sloppy seconds, theres a deleted scene of him just getting done eating out vics wife and he asks why she tastes salty after wiping some of vics nut off his mouth.
@SevDergo I thought about that too. He's too self-centred to have that type of 'Good'. Han Solo (the original representation) is a perfect Chaotic Good. Scoundrel with the heart of gold that shoots his opponent first. There's nothing wrong with being Lawful Evil. It's the only 'evil' alignment I let my players be. (I DM games played in AD&D 1e, the alignments are important).
@@TheEldarGuy Mackey doesn't follow the law, he uses it to avoid negative impact to himself. But there are also many instances where he puts himself at risk to help others. He is not lawful, nor is he evil. Shades of grey.
Mackey uses the authority the badge gives him,when it suits him, but completely ignores it and more often, operates outside of it. He is not even an anti-hero. He's a villain that, occasionally, does something that the audience wants to see. If we're playing D&D alignments, he's closest to Neutral Evil. He just has a ton of gravitas.
All time favorite cop scene " Im a different kind of cop". Love the emotion of feeling maybe he went to far and then finding the girl and wondering did he go far enough
If he thought he was going to get any gratitude or appreciation, Mackey was sorely mistaken. But that's not the worst part. In a few years, Grady is going to get a new trial, a scrubbed clean slate, a full pardon, and a brand new life. The same applies to anyone that was busted by the Strike Team.
Do you actually think this guys going to survive in prison when the guard’s and inmate’s find out what he did to an eight year old,his case would make the news and they would be waiting on him at whatever prison he got sent to,he wouldn’t leave there alive
I always thought it would have been better, and made more sense within the show, for this guy to be innocent and Vic to beat a false confession out of him. It's pretty easy to justify Vic here and I don't think that should be the case.
No, it would make sense for the guy to actually be guilty. It shows that the detectives were indeed correct that the guy knew where the kid was stashed but detectives were constrained by the law. I imagine this type of scenario happens frequently. The viewer can envision their own child being kidnapped and hoping a cop like Vic could save them. Vic's line of questioning was obviously his way to ensure the pedo was comfortable hearing that type of evil.
That was the constant source of tension for the show. The Captain wanted several things. One of which was he wanted to bust Mackey as corrupt because he thought it would help his career. But Mackey was too smart to get caught. But then the line between right and wrong gets blurred because the Captain knows that the little girl is dead if he does his job the right way, so he uses Vic as a resource. Someone who isn’t constrained by ethics. and in doing so corrupts himself. that's why he said "I need you".
That's silly. The point of the show was to paint Vic as a moral gray area. Sometimes he did the right thing, sometimes not. In this case if he beat a confession out of a guy who is actually innocent, then the guy doesn't know where the girl is in the first place.
This entire series is about a single event: the bullet by which Terry Crowley died. This scene is about what Mackey _thinks_ he is. What happens when they no longer need him?
This scene is something from the pilot other than Terry's murder that comes full circle by season seven; that being that as much as Claudette disapproved here, when she came to be in command she found she had to employ Vic and his tactics for the quick results they produce.
If the threat of violence and torture or actual violence and torture didn't work there was always getting the guy totally sheitfaced drunk that might loose the lips and spill the desired information. 72 hours of sleep depervation works well, so I have been told, but they didn't have the time to wait him out.
Why do they allow cops like Vic to exist? Because there are scumbags out there who deserve the hardest cop you got. Lord knows they never realized how far Vic stretched that inch.
I love this scene, Vic doesn’t talk back or mouth off to Aceveda. He knows right in that moment that it’s serious
Acevedo does some mouthing in season 2 😂😂😂
@@stevemiller.That was uncalled for ...😞
@eliv.1033 hey i didn't make the show lol. He sure takes a load to the back of the throat though 😏
@@stevemiller. Nobody deserves what happened to Aceveda
@@somnuswaltz5586 lol 😆
"Good Cop and Bad Cop left for the day. I'm a different kind of cop."
Great line, huh?
@@robertomspaugh161 Absolutely the best way to introduce Vic Mackey to the audience.
He was as real as you got em and what he thought about rolling around in the mud with them wasn't ****. He did whatever took and had no shame about it.
Someone says that to me, I'm not staying silent. Every little bit of information he wants or needs, I'm singing the answers.
@@spriteking1165 Same
Literally a sub plot of the whole series. They hated Vic and the way he did things. But when they needed something to get done they called on him.
When they got the heroin addict father to call his son the cop killer to come home and the rest of the squad walked in on Vic torturing him. "You look fine to me"
If Vic and his group hadn't been so greedy shaking down criminals for profit, the other cops would have been happy to keep him around as an attack dog. But hey, that wouldn't have been as compelling of a show, would it?
Freaking Facts, @@ronarnold1507
@@ronarnold1507 greed always gets you in the end. Tale as old as time.
@@ronarnold1507 Except that when you give someone free rein to break the rules, you can't expect them to only break the ones you want him to break. There's a reason Cincinattus is one of the most revered figures in political history, because pretty much every other person in history who has been given carte blanche to do what needs doing sooner or later either enriches themselves, targets personal enemies, or destroys the entire system, or all of the above.
One of the greatest scenes in TV history.
not top 50 in the show
It’s a great scene. Hardly one of the greatest.
One of the greatest series in my opinion.
The Shield is an absolute masterpiece, imo the best drama tv show in history. It had a great and captivating pilot, built up the tension throughout the seasons with interesting stories and characters, and wrapped it up with a perfect finale.
If you’ve never watched this show, you should.
It does not get the credit it deserves as one of the best ever. My top 3 all time are The Sopranos, The Wire and The Shield.
@@PatF3nis i think The Shield is better than both the "Wire" and "Sopranos" because "The Shield" sticks the landing. Last season of "Wire" got iffy and doesn't compare to any of the earlier ones, and Sopranos had dips throughout
@@biasone9634The Wire was BORING AF.
It's also a rare show where the pilot episode comes back to matter in the final episode. The Shield's pilot wasn't just a random one off in hopes of getting picked up by the network. The longterm storytelling and writing of this show is UNMATCHED.
Calm down. It was fine.
"I'm smarter than he is."
"This isn't a quiz show Dutch!"
The Shield is the rare show where the pilot episode comes back to matter in the final episode. The Shield's pilot wasn't just a random one off in hopes of getting picked up by the network. The longterm storytelling and writing of this show is UNMATCHED.
This is one of the rare shows that is absolutely amazing from pilot to finale. There was no weak seasons or episodes.
@@joemckim1183 AGREED. The Shield and Banshee. Never a dull moment whereas the overrated The Wire had boring episodes non stop.
@@PhilLeotardosGhost I like The Wire also but its not meant to be the same kind of show as The Shield.
It was absolutely BRILLIANT and always will be the best show in history
@@PhilLeotardosGhostAgreed. So tired of hearing how the wire was better than the shield. Not even close
One of the best cop shows ever. Hard core !!!
Things really got dark after he lost the Commissioners job. Very glad he stayed in law enforcement.
😂
I love the idea of Tony Scali getting transferred to LA and just absolutely going off the rails. “Good cop died back in Eastbridge, Rachel.”
Still a brilliant show 20 years later and so relevant. Great acting and great scripts
This was the best foreshadowing of what would follow in television history. Brilliant!
"Vic.....It's clobbering time"
In a deleted scean Dutch walks into the holding room and he's crying, and has pissed himself.
Dutch pissed himself in every episode
Dutch liked vics sloppy seconds, theres a deleted scene of him just getting done eating out vics wife and he asks why she tastes salty after wiping some of vics nut off his mouth.
@@Slo_Moses The suspect, not Dutch.
😂😂
This is the moment Vic became a different kind of cop.
This level of different wasn't suddenly discovered, this is how Vic always worked.
@@StevieGPT Woosh.
@@StevieGPTit was a Breaking Bad reference.
The only time I cheered for a crooked cop.
Vic Mackey supremacy 🛐
Left out the part where Vic comes out with the address.
One of best tv show of all time, second to none
This show was raw and real. Great acting and great story writing
I respected Acevedo because despite him and Mackey’s tension… he knew Mackey could get the job done.
This... for everyone who knows, is what Lawful Evil looks like.
Pretty sure it's chaotic good
@SevDergo I thought about that too. He's too self-centred to have that type of 'Good'.
Han Solo (the original representation) is a perfect Chaotic Good. Scoundrel with the heart of gold that shoots his opponent first.
There's nothing wrong with being Lawful Evil. It's the only 'evil' alignment I let my players be. (I DM games played in AD&D 1e, the alignments are important).
@@TheEldarGuy Mackey doesn't follow the law, he uses it to avoid negative impact to himself. But there are also many instances where he puts himself at risk to help others. He is not lawful, nor is he evil. Shades of grey.
Yeah, unless it's your little girl's life on the line... Shm
Mackey uses the authority the badge gives him,when it suits him, but completely ignores it and more often, operates outside of it. He is not even an anti-hero. He's a villain that, occasionally, does something that the audience wants to see. If we're playing D&D alignments, he's closest to Neutral Evil. He just has a ton of gravitas.
One of the greatest scenes ever!
All time favorite cop scene " Im a different kind of cop". Love the emotion of feeling maybe he went to far and then finding the girl and wondering did he go far enough
"I need you!" He always did.
If he thought he was going to get any gratitude or appreciation, Mackey was sorely mistaken.
But that's not the worst part. In a few years, Grady is going to get a new trial, a scrubbed clean slate, a full pardon, and a brand new life. The same applies to anyone that was busted by the Strike Team.
Grady never made it out of prison.
No, the worst part was the girl dying, which Vic prevented.from happening.
Do you actually think this guys going to survive in prison when the guard’s and inmate’s find out what he did to an eight year old,his case would make the news and they would be waiting on him at whatever prison he got sent to,he wouldn’t leave there alive
@@miketaylor8323 Seeing as how this was Mackey, absolutely.
One of the best and most intense shows ever made!🚓🚔👮♂️👮♂️
I always thought it would have been better, and made more sense within the show, for this guy to be innocent and Vic to beat a false confession out of him. It's pretty easy to justify Vic here and I don't think that should be the case.
No, it would make sense for the guy to actually be guilty. It shows that the detectives were indeed correct that the guy knew where the kid was stashed but detectives were constrained by the law. I imagine this type of scenario happens frequently. The viewer can envision their own child being kidnapped and hoping a cop like Vic could save them. Vic's line of questioning was obviously his way to ensure the pedo was comfortable hearing that type of evil.
That was the constant source of tension for the show. The Captain wanted several things. One of which was he wanted to bust Mackey as corrupt because he thought it would help his career. But Mackey was too smart to get caught. But then the line between right and wrong gets blurred because the Captain knows that the little girl is dead if he does his job the right way, so he uses Vic as a resource. Someone who isn’t constrained by ethics. and in doing so corrupts himself. that's why he said "I need you".
Don't forget, this is the pilot episode.
That was the whole point to give you mixed feelings.He was a dirty cop but he did good things in a bad way
That's silly. The point of the show was to paint Vic as a moral gray area. Sometimes he did the right thing, sometimes not. In this case if he beat a confession out of a guy who is actually innocent, then the guy doesn't know where the girl is in the first place.
You can see the panic set in at 1.55
This entire series is about a single event: the bullet by which Terry Crowley died.
This scene is about what Mackey _thinks_ he is. What happens when they no longer need him?
This scene is something from the pilot other than Terry's murder that comes full circle by season seven; that being that as much as Claudette disapproved here, when she came to be in command she found she had to employ Vic and his tactics for the quick results they produce.
this serie, nowadays, would have been one of the best ever
Classic!
Greatest show of all time!!!
This was a dam good show
Acevada is a good man ...........
we find out in later seasons
how difficult it is to be a good man
Its ironic when Vic says to Aceveda You're Not a Cop, You Never were.....
When Mackey himself in the end..........😮
Incredible show
What was the liqueur for?
Likely to pour into any wounds or cuts from the beating I’d say
If the threat of violence and torture or actual violence and torture didn't work there was always getting the guy totally sheitfaced drunk that might loose the lips and spill the desired information. 72 hours of sleep depervation works well, so I have been told, but they didn't have the time to wait him out.
And we never saw that interrogation room again…
Just a fun fact: Michael's real children play his kids so this scene was especially powerful in his narrative.
No lawyers it's just you and me
Cameras go off
Damn that’s good.
😂 Holman House Chitown
Back when F/X had some serious edge to it. And by edge, I mean it made HBO look like Sesame Street.
Was that a boxer cutter?? I don't remember that 😰
No I think it's a lighter
@@jamestoner3900what he lays down right after the lighter(to the right of it). It even has the switch by the thumb to extend the blade
Both a box cutter and a lighter.
@@jamestoner3900 to the right of the lighter
Does it work?
Yes. He gives the location up
@@jkarnes7529 Thanks!
The entire scene including finding the girl is on TH-cam.
I support the detective in his swift intervention when needed. This is great police work by the captain and Vic 🫡
He's Al Capone with a badge.
Exactly how you deal with predators 😢
Why do they allow cops like Vic to exist?
Because there are scumbags out there who deserve the hardest cop you got. Lord knows they never realized how far Vic stretched that inch.
If only it were that simple
So Awesome Yo happy 😊
Hate the man that gets things done
Strangest episode of the Commish.
Say what you want but Vic got it done with this case
But he’s already leaving bruises w the first two shots
But his confession will never hold up in court! 😅
They are not trying to get a confession. They're trying to get the location of the girl while she is still alive.
@ bruh, I know I’ve seen the show. It was a joke.
later later later...bad as
He's the evil cop
At least he wasn't a cat killer
Dutch was a bad person far worse than Mavky ever was
wtf.
lose the ego.
Later later later hahahaha