@reefnreefer judgment call by ref. I've seen many many beltline shots called good. Ask HOF Tim Bradley he was commenter. Can't agree a judgment call guys
Maybe my fav episode done from all your amazing episodes. Was great the three of you just talking boxing. Rarely do I like guests but the flow and discussion was excellent.
Great show. Mario, Steve and Dougie is pretty special. Ring is a great publication but when they do things like put Tank and Spence on the P4P list they clown themselves.
@@kufujitsu It's American bias. They market it as "The Bible of Boxing" in North America. It's another mistake. It's the digital age and they should market to the World.
Agree with these guys, right call by the ref minus giving Usyk more time when he was ready to go. People need to be real, Dubois wasnt going to win & ultimately didnt deserve to after quitting again.
The dude from ring magazine Doug Fisher I believed you said.....looks like a dude from max boxing bacc in the day. Called it spot on baldmoir vs mayweather.
This is one of the best long form BOXING (Sweet Science) podcast available right now, love the convo and input from everybody. Also Usyk over Fury and Wilder, too much footwork, feinting and punching activity... Crawford beats Mayweather and has a WAR with Sugar Ray Leonard but both could go either way...
3:34 That red line... clearly Usyk´s bellybutton is above that line. You can see it often when he takes a deep breath, the belt is barely covering his bellybutton. That´s a clear low blow.
That's all he's got. Not even a contest. Wilder was outclassed by almost everybody he's ever fought until he lands his right. He ain't touching usyk ,no damn way!
If that shit by Dubois was a low blow then boxing needs to be a lot more consistent about calling low blows because Ive seen shots like that land in that spot multiple times in almost every boxing match I’ve ever watched and the refs usually never say shit!
You couldnt see either naval both were hiked up DDD were up even higher than usyks. Itll always be a judgment call beltline. Ref telling him rest more lol not a coach youre a ref
Mario Lopez wants to make it about Ray Robinson fighting more white dudes. But Canelo is on the same tip. Especially with that run against all those Britts. 🤔
Oscar de la Hoya fought a lot of people but he didn't fight Margarito who used to be his sparring partner. Mayweather flat out ducked Margarito and "retired".
Mayweather vs Bud at 140 and 147?? I'm taking Floyd because Bud won't be able to find him. Floyd's defence is too good and too quick. At 135, Bud may be able to beat Floyd because Bud is bigger and Floyd was offensively minded at 135.
23:00 Why does Spence deserve special treatment in a P4P list? His resume isn't crazy good. About the same as Beterbiev to be honest. If you give that to someone like Canelo who has a crazy resume, that's one thing but Spence was barely a top 10 guy going in if we're being honest (there is a big cliff after like 3 guys and then there is the rest, Spence was part of the rest going into the Crawford fight). Probably some US media bias towards US fighters (+ keeping networks/promotions happy)
Tank’s largely mediocre resume is no accident. But we still keep hearing people claim he’s P4P and how “he pass the eye test.” Even your panel is repeating this nonsense. Tank is a B level fighter surrounded by A level hype, but boxing media is scared to say that because his fans freak out if he gets anything but praise.
The guy's an undefeated Pro Undisputed Cruiserweight unified heavyweight has never been knocked down as a pro only got knocked down by a guy in the amateurs that he beat in that has 18 and over like 18 Knockouts as a pro and the punch was literally below the navel which is the rule for Queensbury rules of boxing and he comes back and beats the crap out of Daniel Daniel is weak mentally he's a weak-minded person he'll never be a champion Daniel is a loser because he has no mental toughness
I can’t say I’m surprised that these dudes are calling it against the black guy. If it was the other way round all these dudes would be saying it was legal. Non blacks always call against blacks. That is what white supremacy is based upon. A belt line shot is not a low blow. That’s where the saying Below the belt comes from. The ref doesn’t have to say where the belt line is. We all can see it. It’s anything below that that is low. This is insane. How can people discussing boxing not know simple rules. Belt line and above is legal. That is why fighters pull up their pants so high.
Great Episode. Steve, Mario and one of the GOATs, Doug Fisher. That being said, it was a legal shot by Dubois and Pabón should have initiated a count.
I thought it was a good punch too
You don’t know the rules
I agree 100%
Nope. Nowhere near legal.
@reefnreefer judgment call by ref. I've seen many many beltline shots called good. Ask HOF Tim Bradley he was commenter. Can't agree a judgment call guys
I remember Douguie's mailbags and Steve back when they were at maxboxing and still covering boxing. Good to see em on the 3rd knock down rule.
When Steve and Dougie reunite feels like them amazing 10 Count days
Maybe my fav episode done from all your amazing episodes. Was great the three of you just talking boxing. Rarely do I like guests but the flow and discussion was excellent.
Doug Fischer!
Couldn't agree more with Dougie saying Inoue's performance stood out more and having him at number 1 p4p.
Great show and love Dougie on it!
Dougie should be a guest once a month
As always a MUST listen for the Boxing fan! Great to hear Dougie on with the fellas, excellent show!
Dougie is the man. Been following this dude since I was a kid. Love his boxing insight
Great show. Mario, Steve and Dougie is pretty special.
Ring is a great publication but when they do things like put Tank and Spence on the P4P list they clown themselves.
Sad when they can't find any honest voters for such a reputable boxing magazine. The PBC obviously influenced them.
@@kufujitsu It's American bias. They market it as "The Bible of Boxing" in North America. It's another mistake. It's the digital age and they should market to the World.
Thank you I thought I was the only one with that thought .Vergota Davis or Teofilo Lopez pleas!!!
Man great guest such a cool convo for boxing nerds
great show loved it
This particular episode should be called The 3 Biased Rule!
Love these three.
oh Dougie, K9 and Mario. This MUST be GREAT. saludos!
Agree with these guys, right call by the ref minus giving Usyk more time when he was ready to go. People need to be real, Dubois wasnt going to win & ultimately didnt deserve to after quitting again.
The dude from ring magazine Doug Fisher I believed you said.....looks like a dude from max boxing bacc in the day. Called it spot on baldmoir vs mayweather.
This is one of the best long form BOXING (Sweet Science) podcast available right now, love the convo and input from everybody.
Also Usyk over Fury and Wilder, too much footwork, feinting and punching activity...
Crawford beats Mayweather and has a WAR with Sugar Ray Leonard but both could go either way...
1 hour of boxing talk. "Excellent!!" ~ Mortal Kombat
Good show
3:34 That red line... clearly Usyk´s bellybutton is above that line. You can see it often when he takes a deep breath, the belt is barely covering his bellybutton.
That´s a clear low blow.
Doug is great for boxing and he's great at breaking down boxing and so is Steve
Devin got a gift decision against Loma in his hometown the town where he was raised
this mf steve should be on espn. excellent voice in boxing.
Where can I get The Ring shirts
Mario lopez is spot on 💯
More Doug
spence and davis on the p4p list is affirmative action at work.
This episode should be titled, “Boomers on Adderall”.
Shakur should have definitely accepted that 25% offer from Haney.
Haney is the A-side. He has all of the belts.
Watch Jack reis’s take on the “low blow”
I’m still trippin’ on that the cool guy that used to war with Zack (aka Preppy) over Kelly has his own boxing podcast.
LMAOOOOO
You have no idea how deep mario is into combat sport bro...
Tank doesnt belong anywhere near the top ten p4p...he hasnt fought sht!!!
Harry Greb fought 45 tines in 1919 and went 45-0. 5 were Hall of Famers
16:23
Wilder would probably be usyk's toughest test... He's got the equaliser...
That's all he's got. Not even a contest. Wilder was outclassed by almost everybody he's ever fought until he lands his right. He ain't touching usyk ,no damn way!
Low blow without a question!! All these haters are just jealous of a great man !
Orale!!!
I kinda liked douggy on the show
His a top 25 bro
If that shit by Dubois was a low blow then boxing needs to be a lot more consistent about calling low blows because Ive seen shots like that land in that spot multiple times in almost every boxing match I’ve ever watched and the refs usually never say shit!
"The price is wrong b!+(#"
32:13 PAUSE PAUSE PAUSE …
I say!!
You couldnt see either naval both were hiked up DDD were up even higher than usyks. Itll always be a judgment call beltline. Ref telling him rest more lol not a coach youre a ref
Yeah I lost a lot of respect for Usyk
Mario Lopez wants to make it about Ray Robinson fighting more white dudes. But Canelo is on the same tip. Especially with that run against all those Britts. 🤔
Steve Kim is great! Jason Whitlock found him and has put him on the map. Sad Steve was behind the scenes his whole life he is made for tv.
Oscar de la Hoya fought a lot of people but he didn't fight Margarito who used to be his sparring partner. Mayweather flat out ducked Margarito and "retired".
Mayweather vs Bud at 140 and 147?? I'm taking Floyd because Bud won't be able to find him. Floyd's defence is too good and too quick.
At 135, Bud may be able to beat Floyd because Bud is bigger and Floyd was offensively minded at 135.
Fury walks him down and stops him all day long.. Usyk hasn’t fought anyone in heavyweight with a boxing IQ.
Neither has Fury minus a 40 year old Klitschko. Who AJ knocked out
23:00 Why does Spence deserve special treatment in a P4P list? His resume isn't crazy good. About the same as Beterbiev to be honest. If you give that to someone like Canelo who has a crazy resume, that's one thing but Spence was barely a top 10 guy going in if we're being honest (there is a big cliff after like 3 guys and then there is the rest, Spence was part of the rest going into the Crawford fight). Probably some US media bias towards US fighters (+ keeping networks/promotions happy)
Terrible angle lol ... I swear all the Usyk lawyers use that same angle instead of the much better one. LEGAL SHOT
Tank’s largely mediocre resume is no accident. But we still keep hearing people claim he’s P4P and how “he pass the eye test.” Even your panel is repeating this nonsense.
Tank is a B level fighter surrounded by A level hype, but boxing media is scared to say that because his fans freak out if he gets anything but praise.
And he looked terrible against Pitbull Cruz I thin he lost that one
Usyk TKO10 Hrgovic...
It’s strange how these guys never talk about Saul Canelo Alvarez
Canelo will spark charlo...mark it down!
Why tf is Gervonta Davis on the Ring P4P list??? Above Teofimo and Loma??? Smfh 🤦🏻♂️
Some folks on ring ratings panel should not work in boxing
Robbery😢usyk cant take a body shot
The guy's an undefeated Pro Undisputed Cruiserweight unified heavyweight has never been knocked down as a pro only got knocked down by a guy in the amateurs that he beat in that has 18 and over like 18 Knockouts as a pro and the punch was literally below the navel which is the rule for Queensbury rules of boxing and he comes back and beats the crap out of Daniel Daniel is weak mentally he's a weak-minded person he'll never be a champion Daniel is a loser because he has no mental toughness
Anything below belly button is a low blow. Simple. Usyk is not that type of fighter and man to fake or complain for nothing as well..
Who do you think is better
Jesus
Buddha
WTF these clowns should know that Marvelous Marvin Hagler war robbed of a win against LEONARD
Crawford is a clout chaser he’s not above that
Loma won the fight and was robbed
I can’t say I’m surprised that these dudes are calling it against the black guy. If it was the other way round all these dudes would be saying it was legal. Non blacks always call against blacks. That is what white supremacy is based upon. A belt line shot is not a low blow. That’s where the saying Below the belt comes from. The ref doesn’t have to say where the belt line is. We all can see it. It’s anything below that that is low. This is insane. How can people discussing boxing not know simple rules. Belt line and above is legal. That is why fighters pull up their pants so high.
You people are professional victims.
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I rest my case.@@Jj-ty7qh