Russell L Ackoff From Mechanistic to Systemic thinking

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 55

  • @renatochencinski
    @renatochencinski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    01:04 - Concept of reality (world view) and definition of an Age
    02:46 - World view 1 - Renaissance
    06:57 - Elements leading to machine age thinking
    17:06 - Summary - 3 doctrines of machine age, Isaac Newton
    19:35 - Origin of industrial revolution and some characteristics
    25:34 - Dilemmas that started to challenge the machine age world view
    - (incomplete)
    1:13:11 - End (there's 24 min of blank at the end)

    • @SystemicThinking101
      @SystemicThinking101  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, Renato, I will add markers to the video and delete the last 24 minutes.

  • @jayantmahajan3120
    @jayantmahajan3120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    One of the most brilliant talks on systems thinking that I have come across. thank you for sharing

  • @dharmashekhar1047
    @dharmashekhar1047 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Ackoff was a true philosopher at heart who changed how world is viewed !

  • @SteveBrant55
    @SteveBrant55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The Einstein of problem solving. My friend and mentor for ten years.

    • @mounirkebir4389
      @mounirkebir4389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What book of him do you suggest to read in order to synthesize this lecture. Thanks

    • @jayantmahajan3120
      @jayantmahajan3120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lucky and Fortunate You

    • @denvermightbe1
      @denvermightbe1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Robyn Maden I’m looking too! We should make a playlist

    • @SteveBrant55
      @SteveBrant55 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mounirkebir4389 Thanks for asking. If you're still looking, his books "Idealized Design" and "On Purposeful Systems" are where I suggest you start. He also co-wrote a book on education: "Turning Learning Right Side Up"

  • @macraeolinger
    @macraeolinger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a VERY good lecture. His ability SYNTHESIS is profound.

  • @harshaananya
    @harshaananya 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Got to hear every single of his talks many times.

  • @fiveshorts
    @fiveshorts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Superb. Clarifying. Distilling. Relevant.

  • @arj123sub
    @arj123sub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very insightful lecture. Must listen 👂 for all involved in large system design and sustenance.

  • @agugyin
    @agugyin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one excellent teacher!

  • @asmokhade
    @asmokhade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Ultimate conceptual clarity for understanding the human made possibilities to live with complexity of muscle and mind usage.

  • @BC-hu6yq
    @BC-hu6yq ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish this channel posted more videos.

  • @sinhaanip
    @sinhaanip 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shook me to the bone.. by his genius ! Wow !

  • @zackmendax8002
    @zackmendax8002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting this friend

  • @Adlip_Kun
    @Adlip_Kun 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for sharing. ❤

  • @theteacher2000
    @theteacher2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Anyone who likes this should read about spiral dynamics

    • @flyingguitarist7026
      @flyingguitarist7026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah Spiral dynamics , Integral theory is a must

  • @nickvoutsas5144
    @nickvoutsas5144 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely brilliant

  • @GabrielPettier
    @GabrielPettier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had no idea what i was getting into, and i'm loving it.

  • @adityaroy9031
    @adityaroy9031 ปีที่แล้ว

    I m damn sure there must be several other videos on systems thinking, put them all on your channel.

  • @jedjedjedjedjedjed
    @jedjedjedjedjedjed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent!!!!!!

  • @tombouie
    @tombouie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interestingly, the synergistic properties of system parts is by definition beyond the analysis of it parts.

  • @ToriKo_
    @ToriKo_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Continue from 37:50

  • @johndoe4073
    @johndoe4073 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    27:06 - "Man is like a fly riding on the trunk of an elephant who thinks he's steering it. The elephant doesn't mind and it makes the ride more interesting." 🤣

  • @noelhall945
    @noelhall945 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Systems Thinking:- "STSP"
    Peter Checkland mentions you often:
    why not you him ?

  • @jonsonator3576
    @jonsonator3576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Einstein rotates in his grave anxiously

  • @mbalagueraj
    @mbalagueraj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    46:35 1 Cor 12:12-27

  • @mugokiberenge8818
    @mugokiberenge8818 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aha.....God creation contextualization and view of world

  • @inadina4051
    @inadina4051 ปีที่แล้ว

    39:28

  • @mbalagueraj
    @mbalagueraj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    An interesting reductionist talk against reductionism.

  • @mattgunter9674
    @mattgunter9674 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ackoff is so over-rated. Such dumb BS!
    How easily people accept his sarcastic view of human progress is sad and hilarious at the same time.

  • @زنیباجورابشلواریآبی
    @زنیباجورابشلواریآبی ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Minutes 1:11:38 he talks about a female philosopher and says:
    “A remarkable lady, remarkable because firstly she was a lady, secondly because she was a professor of philosophy!”
    This sounds deeply misogynistic to me!
    That is, he does not expect a woman to be a philosopher.

    • @thomasto314
      @thomasto314 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I interpret it as him saying being a lady is a remarkable thing in itself, so the complete opposite of that.

    • @SleepyMagii
      @SleepyMagii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is remarkable, if you've ever heard him describe the very school/teaching system 😂
      It's all a club, especially in the "professor" echelon. It's pretty radical she would've been in the club... definitely markable atleast

  • @kenkenken7789
    @kenkenken7789 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:12:49 the AI era is based on this

    • @Blunttalker
      @Blunttalker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thought about this too

  • @JayLikesLasers
    @JayLikesLasers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    31:30 Now we know that the appendix serves a purpose: It provides a repository of gut bacteria, so that if during illness or poisoning the rest of the gut microflora is disrupted, then they can be replaced. So I guess it becomes a part of the whole... and somebody needs to come up with a new name.

  • @anthorum
    @anthorum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting how Einstein is not mentioned... Ackoff probably imagined what the MIND of Cybernetics would be... but probably never thought of internet and google..

  • @btanonymous
    @btanonymous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an amazing talk.

  • @crahul007
    @crahul007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Such an amazing lecture. So many interesting concepts talked so lucidly --- changes your point of view

  • @frankvoehl7303
    @frankvoehl7303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ackoff is brilliant with his powerful explanations, such as:
    What happens to any age is the appearance of dilemmas - problems that challenge the validity of the current world view and cannot be solved within it. Such was the case during the Middle Ages - hence, the Renaissance. In our case, we are experiencing a shift from the Machine Age to the Systems Age.

    • @theteacher2000
      @theteacher2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out Spiral Dynamics

    • @paula-q4q
      @paula-q4q 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well put😊

  • @anthorum
    @anthorum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GENIO

  • @ScienceandArtofPublicHealth
    @ScienceandArtofPublicHealth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent talk, shows how to mesh ideas into a story to make it compelling.

  • @ayy2193
    @ayy2193 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:00 shared perspective more fragmented than ever in this age , with advent of information sharing . Perspective comes from the information you encounter. Before you would encounter way more limited range of information , so less range of perspective
    But on the upside gives more transformation potential

  • @criticalbil1
    @criticalbil1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is like finding buried treasure. Outstanding lecture x

  • @flyingguitarist7026
    @flyingguitarist7026 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Internet is again a connection of this mind

  • @alexismelchor10
    @alexismelchor10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The boss is a man with power, not God.