Hands-On: Lyman Universal Case Trimmer
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Want a trimmer that can do it all? The Lyman Universal Case Trimmer can accommodate calibers from .22 to .458 without extra collets and can be converted to a power trimmer!
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good overview, did i miss the part where he magically got to the correct length? 2 more minutes on this video would be super helpful to see how he got he correct length with his calipers.
he didn't he's trimming arbitrarily
easiest way is to get a case that's the right length, then butt it up to that one and you get close...and then can tweak the fine adjust if needed.
“I like to cut my .308 brass to 2.000 even”
*proceeds to trim off an unknown amount of material*
I was wondering about that too. I have a piece of trimmed brass that is only used for setting up the trimmer length for cases.
I have used that model for twenty five years. Like many of the commentors have mentioned, I purchased the ¼" hex shank cutting bar for cordless screwdriver powered operation. I wore an egg-shaped hole in the bronze oil bushing that the cutter bar slides/turns in. Sent it back to Lyman and they pressed a new bronze bushing in it, and didnt sent me any bill. I screwed it up by using too of a large cordless drill/driver that was too heavy, and wallered out the bushing hole. I now power it with a Ryobi 4 Volt dinky sized drill/driver, that doesnt run faster than 300-400 RPM. Lyman makes good stuff.
Interesting. I figured that Lyman would stand behind their product.
I picked one up about a year ago and i love it. I trim everything with it. I had surgery on my wrist in-between... so i got the drill adapter for it. I aint going quietly.
How to adjust?
Increments?
Markers?
Consistency?
Square mouth?
17cal?
20 cal?
Bought one. I use it all the time. Once you get the proper case length set, you can crank cases out accurately and quickly. I even bought the power drill attachment to make it quicker to trim lots of cases. Best reloading purchase I ever made.
and not having to hold onto brass with a death-grip in your fingers makes a WORLD of difference. I was starting to hate brass prep to the point I didn't even want to do it. This has helped with that.
I used one with a cheap cordless screwdriver for years. You sneak up on the “trim to length”. As others said, saving a trimmed case with your dies as a setup tool works well.
these videos have been indispensable in building my knowledge of reloading. thank you!
Great piece of gear, I mounted mine on a bamboo serving tray, great for trimming while watching a show. The drill attachment makes high volume runs a breeze!
Had that one for 3 years and loved it. Works great. I even have the old style when it was grey
I own this tool, been using it since 2001. I use the drill adapter to have power capabilities and speed. Thanks for the awesome reviews.
Have one of these myself but still learned some of the finest points here. I appreciate the video!
Great video. I've had this trimmer for more than 40 years and it has served me very well. I have had to replace the bronze bushing on the trimmer shaft because of wear, but not really a big deal. One big improvement for me was the carbide cutter. It cuts faster and smoother than the tool steel cutter that comes with the trimmer, a little pricy but worth the money. My trimmer didn't come with any pilots, so I did purchase some and found that they are not machined with a square shoulder on the back side which allows the brass to fold around the back side of the pilot when removing a large amount of material, soooo having a lathe and some casehardening ability I made my own pilots and eliminated the problem. All in all I really like my trimmer and I guess there is always going to be some features good and bad in any piece of equipment. Keep up the good work with these instruction videos. I'm sure they help anyone make an informed decision on purchasing equipment for their reloading experience, new and old-timer reloaders alike... 👍👍
Great review and excellent camera work showing us what you were adjusting. Nicely done Sir.
I have that same trimmer and have used it for over 30 years. I have made the missing pilots out of broken drill shanks. Chucked the arbor in the lathe and drilled the center out and threaded for a drill pilot when doing mass trimming on the 222 and 223. Put the handle back on for the larger calibers. Excellent piece of gear.
My favorite piece of machinery on my bench..... I even got the Lyman neck case turner for it. I bought a Forster 3-n1 trimmer and bore it out to fit on the shaft.... Now I can get a whole lot cases done in no time...... 1 step does 3 steps.
I have been using this for over a year now, it does the job.
Love this case trimmer keep up the good work
Finally a quality case trimmer video. I was thinking of the Hornady cam lock and the RCBS. This Lyman is a winner. I;m buying one tomorrow.
I use a combination of this Lyman case trimmer and a few of the Lee cartridges specific trimmers from my broke days. Trimming 300 WBY Mag, 6.5 Grendel, 243 Win, 5.45x39, and so on and so forth.
Thanks for the advice!
One of the reasons I chose the Lyman Deluxe kit was because they were the only one that included this case trimmer as part of the package. When I began trimming my brass, I made a couple master cases from each cartridge I load that measured exact book minimums to make adjustments quick from one cartridge to another. I mounted mine to a piece of plywood with enough material on either end to C-clamp it to a table. I currently use the T-Mag II press that came with the kit, but going to upgrade to that big honkin' Lyman Brass Smith turret press when I move in a year or so. Right now I'm only loading for .30-06, .25-06, .223 & .45 Colt (30k-32k psi). Starting to tool-up for 6.5 CM.
I have the Lyman power trimmer, still trying to get the adapter for 7.62x39, and love it for its speed and accuracy. Its also very easy to set up for case length. Its only draw back it lack of straight wall cartridge support. I'm currently trimming 223, 308 & 6.5cm.
I thought I was going crazy with him just magically changing the length and I missed something, thank god other people were also confused
I started with Lee Case trimmers and have graduated to the Worlds Finest Trimmers and a drill press. For my ODD BALL wildcat (.357 AR-Max) I use the same drill press with the Frankford Arsenal Universal Trimmer.
Morning from north of you sir, good to see you again. While I started out with a Lee setup, they all went to a family member who was starting handloading and I've got an RCBS hand trimmer that looks much like the Lyman except the Lyman chuck looks much easier to use. I've run mine by hand and with a drill if there's lots to do. Don't forget to give the bearing surfaces some lube too folks. All the best to you this weekend sir.
Thank you. Good stuff. Appreciate the testimony.
My father passed way in 1986. I still have and use his Universal Case Trimmer.
That trimmer is very similar to the RCBS case trimmer 2 that I have been using for the past 20 years... the only plus I can see with the RCBS, is that I have several three way cutter heads for it. Trim, inside and outside chanfer in one operation. Kind of slick that way. Regardless, fantastic review as always, and please continue the great content!
To the best of my knowledge, the threads on the cutterhead are the same. So you could put the RCBS cutter on this unit. I think that would be optimal because I like the way this one holds the cases a little better. Might want to double-check this, but I'm almost positive that the cutter heads are interchangeable.
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Because with the world the way it is today it is all the more important that we can reload, and even make brass and gunpowder, I had thought I subscribe to you before, but when I went to this TH-cam I see I had not, or maybe I had and something happened, anyway I’ve re-subscribed and giving y’all a like excellent work !
Still using the Lee case trimming guides for 7.5x55, .308, 7.62x54r, 7.62x39, and 9x19mm, just because the Lee pilots were set to length from the case primer hole.
I have this bad boy and I love it. The best combination of quality and price
I have one like this and they have an attachment for cordless drill which makes doing large batches much faster.
I’m buying one , Have a early 70’s RCBS . Gonna treat myself, great 👍. Videos ❤️❤️
The carbide cutter is a must. It makes this thing 500x better.
Guy.. Great video! I use the trim pro 2 power trimmer.. I love it.. no palm wear.. very fast for volume trimming. I'm doing all the '06/308 based stuff 243 25-06 308 and '06.. I also size and decap prior to trimming, although there isn't a primer pocket ball in the rcbs universal holder. hand dechamfer, and its off to the steel pins/dawn/lemishine then dry in meat dehydrator.. then to the dillion.. very nice system.
I only reload for one caliber so, I hooked mine up to a drill!
Nice trimmer maybe one of the best i ever use. You should have to speak about extra pilots available, carbide head, drill adapter and ONT system.
The cutter looks like it has a lot of runout. When I was researching trimmers I ended up settling on the L.E. Wilson. It was expensive but it does a fantastic job. Very precisely made.
Yes, mine did as well. Also when you tighten down the case holder it torques the case off center and therefore cuts the case mouth on an angle. Very apparent when shaving small amount as it will leave a portion of the case mouth untouched.
Got one too. Its great but I love my henderson trimmer
I quit using a Lyman in favor of Wilson as well.
That is a great trimmer had one for many years in fact mine is so old it's grey the cutter's are really hi quality
I have this case trimmer and it has been so easy to use. I am currently reloading 25-.06 and .308. I have a 30-.06 as well but have not reloaded for that yet.
Same. Have done .223, .308, .30-06, .338 LM and 5.7 x 28 (although the shell-holder doesn't grip these very tight - takes a bit of fiddling w/it).
Just bought a 2nd one today after finding a Chamfer and Deburring Tool that screws into the rod.
I HATE having to hold a piece of brass to trim it. Hand gets WAY to sore & stiff the next day. This helps tons with that, even if it's slightly slower having to put it into a holder, worth that time.
I got my back in the mid 80's and the pilots was a little over size . I sand them to fit . No problem after. I had it later set up to use a hand drill .
The only trimmer I have ever used. Still going strong after 18 yrs. I had to buy a .25 pilot. My set didn’t go include it.
I have one and use it for low count calibers I reload where I dont want to buy/make a chamber for the Giraud.
Its fast enough and accurate enough to get the job done for a reasonable price.
Love mine. Have to measure only to specs then trim to length. Then chamfer ID and OD. 1 issue I have is getting replacement set screws. Over time the Allen wrench won't tighten.
Great looking tool and video. Much as I like the video's Travis and Gavin do I especially like yours as they are much closer to what I do when reloading. I am using the RCBS case trimmer but the Lyman does look nice
I put a 1" washer behind the trim head to hold a spring in place over the shaft to make abself progressing trimmer
This video fails to demo the adjustment part. I use a Frankford Arsenal 4 station case prep center with a Lee threaded cutter and lock stud. I buy a $7 case length gauge and shell holder for each cartridge and there’s no measuring or adjusting. Just trimming.
Agreed. How are we supposed to know how much material we are removing? He even said “I like to cut my .308 case to 2.000 even”…
*proceeds to randomly trim some arbitrary amount*
I'll second the reply. Setup is simple but what many people would like to know is how exactly do you set the trim length.
I own and have used it for years, bring the course to zero then back it off 1.5 turns then use the fine adjustment to remove a little at a time. Check with either a mike or calipers, the nice part is once you adjust it to where you want just start cutting and swap one after another. If it's the same type brass problem
Can you please elaborate on how you are doing this? Are you modifying the frankford trimmer by replacing it with the lee cutter?
I have the case prep center, 4 threaded, motorized positions with no trimmer. I screw the Lee threaded trimmer into one position, then a primer cleaner, chamfer, and debur tool. Prep each case in probably 10-20 seconds.
You sir are an great instructor! I bought the Lyman kit and I am watching all the videos you put out on it. That is very much, I am a newbie in the reloading process and I know it’s important to pay attention to detail. Watching you makes this so much easier and I fell safe with the knowledge you put into your videos. Thanks again.👍
I have an RCBS that is very similar except it has a tension lever to release the brass. Mostly trimming mixed revolver brass once so i get even crimps. Bought it for getting into rifle reloading though just starting in that process.
Just bought one of these to replace an RCBS trimmer. I opted for the carbide cutter, hopefully it lasts longer than the high speed cutter.
I prefer the RCBS one that is similar. The case locking mechanism is just a handle you push down and has all the shell plates. They also have the Trim Pro cutters that trim to length and chamfer the inside and outside of the case. I bought a second shaft and adjustment thimble so can easily swap between 2 cases very quickly.
Bought one of these used off of flebay for cheap, it has 1997 stamped on the bottom.
Machined a new bronze bushing for a close fit and some pilots, even with a dull cutter, it cuts square and dead nuts length. Going to get the carbide cutter I think.
I've been using mine for about 10 yrs now. it's an excellent trimmer and has held up well.
I like this one better than the Hornady… I had to send mine to them due to some issues with the ram holding the case not going back into the frame… it also gets gummed up quickly and frequently had to clean it… I currently use an electric Lyman Case Trimmer Xpress and it’s very easy and an awesome trimmer to use
Watching the video how did you determine how much needed trimmed?
He didn't. He's literally just winging it. Frustrating that you TH-cam how to do this and the first thing that pops up is him.
The Lyman Trimmers are rugged reliable tools that do exactly what they were designed to do and do it well at affordable prices for the common man . My only wish was that they designed them with the option to use portable hand drills . I know that they have an electric trimmer but I would be nice if their lathe type trimmer had an option to use with drills .
At 3:25 You say to go ahead and tighten down the coarse and fine adjustment wheels. I must have missed the part where you explain what you doing when you tighten those in the first place. I thought the idea behind trimming was to get the case down to a specific and predictable length.
Guy, how are the course and fine adjustment knobs used? This overview video seemed a bit incomplete.
Do over
I found the Lee Quick Trim a better system as it does not require a different piece of equipment. You use the press you have and just a die set up.
Tip: I got an old Lyman powered trimmer at an auction and Lyman confirmed the new pilot's will fit this old trimmer.
Franklin Arsenal, case trim prep Center
He incorrectly identified the knurled adjustment stop collars. The larger collar, closest to the trimmer is the fine adjustment. The smaller collar, closer to the handle, is the coarse adjust. Here are directions from the users manual:
Two knurled adjustment rings, located on the cutter shaft. provide for both fine and coarse adjustments. Before making any adjustments, hold the large ring with your finger and turn the small ring counterclockwise, four full turns. This will leave about 3/32" space between the rings and allow room for fine adjustment. Make certain the cutter face is still positioned against the case mouth and slide the adjustment rings in tight against the side of the base casting. Tighten the lock screws in the small ring. Later models have a series of indicators each representing .001 inch of travel on the shaft. Used as reference marks, they enable the user to return to an approximate setting for various cases without time consuming trial and error testing.
For those who simply cannot figure out how to adjust this tool.... There are pretty good instructions in the orange booklet that came with it. Starts on page 34 in the copy I have.
Great Video Guy! Its refreshing to finally watch a video on this channel where the Host isn't Talking with his hands and waving them all over the place and Pointing at me. Keep up the good work Guy and I hope to see more of You
I have 1..There the best in my opinion
Can you do neck turning on the outside and inside with interchangeable pieces sold separately
I've got that trimmer...great unit. However...spend the extra money and buy the carbide cutter as the HHS cutter can dull rather fast. I switched to carbide cutter and haven't looked back
The first time I tried reloading it was for my 308 I realized they wouldn't chamber. I could tell by looking at them that the once fired cases were just too long. So I got a lee trimmer widget. It's kind of a pain but it seems to work. Is it unusual to need to trim every time? These were once fired factory loads shot from my rifle.
I meant to comment on this a week ago, but then forgot. Go ahead and get the carbide cutter for it. The standard one that ships with the trimmer starts to get dull in the 600 to 700 case range.
your lucky mine 100 casings, did order the carbides to try soo and the power shaft adapter, hell on fingers after a 100
Good to know. Mine's been fine so far, but thinking if it's going to dull, then may as well go ahead and get that now. Thanks
Can we have a year later update on the kit? IE what did you switch out, what you kept, how much use it's gottten
Can you use the 223 pilot head work with a 22 Nosler or 224 Valkyrie?
I have this trimmer and it works pretty good except there is a very small defect with the spindle…sort of a high spot…it doesn’t slide in and out smoothly. I still prefer the Lee Quick Trim die…much faster, just as accurate, plus it chamfers inside and outside the case mouth simultaneously, but not great for removing a lot of material. Lyman trimmer now is used mostly for trimming the 1mm off 9mm Luger brass to 9mm Makarov length.
I started off with a Forester trimmer, didn't care much for the way the case was held, The Lyman is similar and a much better system BUT for half the money you can own a Frankford Arsenal Universal Precision Power Case Trimmer. For HALF the cost of the Lyman you get a powered case trimmer run by your battery drill and talk about accurate, my cases measure less than .001" in variance (couldn't say that about the Forester) and you don't need to buy any neck pilots. Everything is there to trim almost any brass you have as long as you have necked brass. I turned my old Forester into a neck turner and never looked back. I usually enjoy these new product video's but this time IMHO you missed the mark but to each his own.
The Lyman trimmer is a descent trimmer but the cutting heads don't stay sharp very long.
Thinking of buying one, I was wondering if you can trim 303 British cases with the pilot who comes with the trimmer or I have to buy one ( 303 pilot)
Great review by the way, love the video
What are the recommended power sources?
The Lyman trimmer was my first I bought it in the early 70s when they were painted gray. From what I see in the video verry little has changed except for what looks cosmetic on the course adjustment wheel. It is a fine trimmer and I still have it. The only issue I have with it is that shavings tend to get in all the holes where the pilots go. I use this trimmer for shortening 41 long Colt brass for heeled bullets and that puts out a lot of shavings. I also have the LE Wilson trimmer of a little older vintage and it also works fine. Neither cutter has needed replacement in over 40 years.
Wow- that's awesome, sounds like it's stood the test of time!
on the adjustment wheel, I see there are notches cut into it. How do these read? eg. each hash mark will remove a thousands of an inch?? Could you please explain. Thank you!
So no need for a caliper to check OAL?
I had one of their universal case trimmers years ago and it was very inconsistent. I finally quit using the pilots which were the cause of my problems. Brass would get behind the pilot, and you had to pull with great force to get the case off the pilot. When it finally released it would hit the bushing on the back side with such force the bushing would move inside the frame, resulting in varying case lengths.
That universal chuck is a nice touch. I have an one of the green brand that I have to use my shell holders with. Just last week I resized a bunch of 6.5 Grendel brass for my 6mm ARC. That's the most resizing I have done in one sitting.
Soo have u used one of these Lyman trimmers ?
@@jamesrape9288 only a few times, that's what my buddy has and he likes it.
Hello, I’m just curious, will the Lyman trimmer use their E-ZEE TRIM case trimming system? If it does this would be an ingenious way to go!
Sadly this didn't show how you set it for a certain length, which is the whole point of case trimming. How did you choose the depth? There isn't even a micrometer on the bench.
Can it do 45 70 as well heard these universal trimmers can't do this cartridge
I've been " trying " to use the rcbs case trimmer witch is a peace of junk. I'm going to buy the lyman universal case trimmer.
Hi! Can I trim 9.3 x 62 Mauser with this please?
For many years I used the Lyman case trimmer, I will say, it's better than nothing, but it's a pain in the butt to trim cases accurately, the waste can it went after buying LE Wilson's case trimmer reviewed Ultimate Reloader show some years ago - by far a much better machine.
Which one for 6.5
Had one for a while for my personal use and it single handedly convinced me to buy the henderson trimmer.. the lyman is as accurate as a blind hooker corn hole ing (don't ask).. made 1k a reasonable choice.. enjoy 😉
Hello, can you tell me what trimmer pilot number for a 300 BLK caliber ?
Wish I would’ve bought this instead of LE Wilson one
I have been using the Lyman EZee trim case trimmer and have decided that trimming by hand like that is overrated. I am trimming 223, 243, 270, 30.06, 300 Hamr, and 308.
I don't see any measuring system or gauge. Looks to me like a guess on length. I wouldn't use this personally.
Its ok. I'd rather use my Frankford Arsenal than the Lyman..I since graduated to the Giraud.. That one makes it fast and easier
When you say "take just a little bit off..." are you eyeballing it and then measuring it or do you set it to trim this .308 brass to 2" and regardless of the length of this brass it will end up at that length?
You do have to measure and adjust at first.
It has fine-adjustments so once you get a piece of brass that's the right length and tighten things to that piece, you are done measuring other than confirming from time to time.
How many times can you reload same brass before you have to start trimming it
Depends on a lot of factors. If you are reloading rifle brass and you don't have a trimmer stop reloading until you get one. Trimmers are not optional when it comes to bottleneck brass. They are absolutely necessary.
Ya, with some low pressure straight cases, you may never need to trim. This has been my experience with 38 Special and 45 ACP cases. However, with high pressure bottle neck rifle cases... You're likely to need to trim after only a few firing/reloading cycles. Some cases stretch more than others. Be careful. Measure the size of your cases after firing and resizing and see if they are above the "trim to" lengths specified in the manuals.
We’re is everyone getting there primers without spending crazy money just getting into reloading
Is Lyman definitely as quality as the other name brands?
Did not explain the use of the adjustment rings very well, assume I know little to nothing about case trimming.
Does it have a length guage. Or are u just guessing?
You trim, measure, and adjust. Kinda like a reloading die without a micrometer on it. Start big and work your way down. Easy peasy.
@@scarecrow6292 ok thank you. Ive used the Lee and it sets the length so you don't have to keep measuring. Just put the case in and trim. Lyman seems time consuming.
Sorry, maybe i didnt explain well. The large and small adjustments he talks about do set the depth but it isnt numbered. You have to go off of feel like a standard reloading die. But once you get it set your good to go from there.
@@scarecrow6292 Sure. Thanks for filling me in. Lyman makes great stuff ! Peaceful Sabbath to all..
I was going to buy one but not now. As it only locates on the primer pocket and not the back of the case for constant length. You also don't show how much the length changes per turn on the fine adjustment. Sorry but some people need to be shown this. I will go with the Wilson gear for the extra money.