South Carolina is the exact opposite though. South Carolina democratic voters are overwhelmingly African American. Maybe they should do multiple ones at the same time that , in aggregate, reflect the diversity. Biden is asking for SC because he was struggling until he reached SC. His support weakens outside of the South
O M G. Are you a bot or are you serious? No way people believe this propoganda. This was an act of blatant corruption by the DNC to rig the primaries for Biden. It's not even covert. It's blatantly obvious. And then corporate media covers it in a positive light instead of criticizing how undemocratic this move was. IT IS ESTABLISHMENT VS THE PEOPLE.
Its not about Democrats or Republicans its supposed to be about the best for the United States of America. While are military personnel around the world are risking their lives and doing their job. Its time for the United States of America law makers to do something about TEFLON SHIFTY DONN. Instead of holding the court system hostage for another 5 years of his games. America needs CONGRASSS to work for the United States of America people
Seems like Nevada is the obvious choice to hold the first Democratic primary. Nevada is more diverse than Iowa, and unlike South Carolina Nevada is actually a swing state.
Yes, Nevada is half non-white, but California is 2/3 non-white, so is more diverse than Nevada. It is the best choice for first state, and deserves to go first, because it has the most voters.
@@deborahfreedman333 California does have the most voters. As somebody who sides with the Democrat coalition, I also want to make sure we pick a candidate that can win the electoral college. I’d rather voters in a crucial swing state make that decision. For example when Hillary Clinton lost Wisconsin and Michigan in the 2016 primary that should have been a flashing red warning light for what could happen in the general election.
Yes, they should change which states go first, but it should not be South Carolina, just to pander to one voting group. The Electoral College is unfair to more populated states, and not having the first primaries, in the states with the most voters, compounds that inequity. California is both the most populated state, and very diverse as it is only a third white. We have to stop pretending the only non-white people, in this country, are black. There are many minorities in the US, and California has them all, in decent numbers, including Native Americans, Hispanics and Asians. You cannot say that about South Carolina,. California is thus, far more diverse state than any South Carolina. *Be fair and have the first primary in California* ! (BTW I don't live in California, I just think it would be right.)
Let's say someone like Tim Ryan of Ohio (who lost to Vance four weeks ago, but is a moderate Democrat who might appeal to independents all across the country) wants to run in 2024. Do you have the $150 million to give him to run a presidential primary campaign in California? Could I ask for some of that before you shower him with the rest of your largesse? If you don't have a way to set up a pro-Ryan (or any other relative unknown) PAC to the tune of $150,000,000, how would you give Cong. Ryan a chance in California that he or some other candidate deserves? Public financing of campaigns? That has as much chance of happening as the elimination of the Electoral College. That's why you start with states that have a population of five million, three million, and 1.4 million, not with one that has nearly 40 million people in it. SC is 26% African American and otherwise mostly European American. NH is 92% European American. Nevada is 30% Hispanic American, 11% African American, and 9% Asian American, with a scattering of other non-White ethnic groups, making it a diverse "majority minority" state, and one that teeters between Democrats and Republicans in statewide elections. (The voters there just elected a Republican governor and Democratic senator by small margins.) Then you add in larger and equally diverse swing states, like Georgia and Michigan. Um...what more do you want? If Biden runs again, he will almost certainly win SC easily. But that will get him no momentum, because he will be expected to win SC easily. If he is defeated or almost defeated there, he will face pressure to drop out, like LBJ did after almost losing the NH primary in 1968. Don't expect him to be held under 50%, as LBJ was, however, but he will still have to prove himself against intra-party opponents, if they emerge to challenge him, in NV and NH. I would suggest that Mr. Biden, a) wants Iowa out of the first slot, particularly since Iowa Democrats, sad to say, don't seem to have a really good handle on how to run a caucus, but refused to institute a primary instead; and b) wants to reward Cong. Clyburn for his help in 2020. In other words, why SC instead of some other smallish Republican state? Jim Clyburn. But I can't see any reason why Mississippi or Arkansas, for example, should be first, if you want a smallish state in the South instead of Iowa to go first. And you do want to pay attention to the South (sorry, Bernie, but you can't dismiss them as irrelevant, as you did in 2016) because you need to gain victories in VA, NC, and GA (Florida has become a hopeless case again for the Dems) in 2024 if you want an Electoral College mandate, not a bare majority, since NY, PA, IL, MI among other Northern states and even CA are losing electoral votes.
It should be Arizona, Nevada and New Mexico the same day then Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa and New Hampshire another day. Georgia, Michigan and Pennsylvania should separate considering a bigger states
The current system is unfair, but so is the proposed one. It is inherently unfair for the same state to get to go first every time. There should be a system where the various primary states alternate going first.
@@frankbandera6591 Money. It would severely limit the types and number of candidates if they had to fund a campaign in all 50 states. They run in a few states, do well in the primary, attract more donors, rinse and repeat. Momentum. That’s impossible with same day primaries.
@@censoredopinions True, although maybe that's a good thing. Limit spending proportional to the state and have it all go at the same time. After all, elections are pretty-much simultaneous.
Past time for Dems to make a primary calendar that allows early participation by AA voters, who are the swing voters in the Dem primary. In 2020 Dems could have easily wound up with Sanders as the nominee while he was not the preferred candidate of the majority of the party. If Biden had just dropped out, as many candidates do, the party would have wound up with someone who was not the actual party's choice.
South Carolina is not diverse. I am sorry, it just isn't. I don't know if there is any state that is, except California. Why not start with California?
Way too expensive of a state to start in. Would only benefit candidates with really deep pockets. If you want the candidate with the most money to win, CA could be the place to start.
@@learnsteelguitarinretirement And if your daughter complained about her treatment, you would probably call her a liar. You BlueAnon zealots scare tf out of me
NH is such a bipolar state…Older boomers lean R…but the deniers are alive and well… The new vibe in the Seacoast is as B as thinking, feeling humans can be… The Live Free or Die motto isn’t representative of all in New Hampshire..After all we are the only New England state (without) legalized weed… lol… We do take our right to vote seriously…
I still feel we should treat the 1st 4 state Caucuses & Primaries (Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, & Nevada) as a mini Super Tuesday by having them all at once. Also, we should cut back on the amount of time the Primaries take to just 4 to 6 months since we don't need a full year to campaign for President like we did prior to the age of the internet.
I feel bad for Norfolk Southern union rail workers down at Inman Yard in Atlanta forced to work without sick days or the right to strike by President Biden and Congressional Black Democrats like Raphaël Warnock. .Votes like this may be why more African Americans don't vote or switch to the GOP every election cycle. 🤠
You forgot to mention that they could have bargained away their $160,000 future annual salaries for more sick days. Suppose they had agreed to an increase up to $145,000 instead and traded the $15,000 a year (or some other amount) for sick days. I have no idea what the obscenely rich CEO's of the rail companies would have said, but considering that $145,000 is double the average salary of an American worker... Of course, they deserve the sick days. The question is whether they deserve the $160,000 transporting food while people providing millions with food at McWalBucks can't get $30,000 a year guaranteed. Unfortunately, nearly everyone is happy that billionaires can become billionaires. The billionaires have convinced most of the rest of us that they must be particularly intelligent, creative and dedicated to the good of the nation to have accumulated that amount of money. Any proof of that? In America, when push comes to shove, and you can only have one, sick days don't actually matter. Only the accumulation of money does. We seem to have forgotten that "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil."
It's not called "Morning Mika," is it? If you'd like to offer _Mika_ as a slang word for, say, _tea_ , we might be able to swing an Afternoon Mika show for her out of MSNBC, with all the cups around the table having a Lipton logo on them, and yes, it would be a better show than the one she's appearing on now. Let's see, "I'd like a cup of Mika, preferably Darjeeling, at 4pm." "I just can't get started without my cup of Mika in the morning." Fine with me.
Bye, bye Iowa! Bring the Primary to South Catalina, then Michigan use Black Hemp Farmers & The Veteran Green Jobs in Solar and Auto Industries to lead the platform and the party.
@@DarthSailorMoo lol how do you take mumbling out of context, or waving to nobody, or calling out for people that died, or subtly adding some racist remarks. 😂😂😂 Biden is a gaff machine and you don't need to take anything out of context to see
Making South Carolina first would be an awful choice because it would result in an unelectable Democrat getting an early advantage. The reason is because South Carolina is a red state and it’s Democratic voters lean right. The activist, more progressive base won’t be motivated to support another corporate Dem.
LOL, that is entirely not even close to true. I live in South Carolina, there is nothing right wing deniers, and poor education. We had to wait till a Democrat got elected as president till schools finally started getting put in. If you even step foot in SC, you'll fear just walking past a Republican.
@@DarthSailorMoo For the past 2 presidential elections, Clyburn has been the Dem’s establishment gatekeeper. In 2016, he got Trump elected because he got behind the hugely unpopular establishment candidate, Clinton. In 2020 he did the same by standing in the breach against the much more popular progressive candidate, Sanders, and instead supported Biden, who was flagging horribly in the previous primaries. Biden barely won the general, in a year which should have a lay up for the Dems given who the Dems were seeking to oust from the WH.
@@damiannelson9820 LOL, Biden won with the biggest landslide in history, and the Republicans are embarrassed over it. You're nothing but a typical miss informed sheep.
@@DarthSailorMoo I’m misinformed huh? Who is the most popular Washington politician for like the last 11 years running? Which 2016 presidential hopeful had a significant chunk of his voters switch to Trump once Clinton became the nominee? If the point is to win elections, and to have your candidate win with a popular mandate, running corporate-backed candidates as your Democratic nominee is not the way to achieve success, particularly when it comes to enacting social policies that 70% of the country supports.
Paul: Because the only thing that counts in the USA these days is money and news shows make money when they talk about elections and politics. At least MSNBC doesn't dwell on 2020. News Divisions have long since ceased to be allowed to be loss leaders. They are expected to make money, just like RuPaul's Drag Race, NCIS and Monday Night Football. By talking about 2024 is how they make money in 2022. To be fair, MSNBC gives plenty nof coverage to other news besides 2024 politics. I mean, the avoidance of a rail strike was covered and is certainly a matter of the here and now. The war in Ukraine is certainly of the year 2022 (and sadly, 2023, at least).
It should be swing states that award delegates first.
It makes sense to kick off the primaries in a group of states that better reflects the diversity of the country as a whole.
South Carolina is the exact opposite though. South Carolina democratic voters are overwhelmingly African American. Maybe they should do multiple ones at the same time that , in aggregate, reflect the diversity.
Biden is asking for SC because he was struggling until he reached SC. His support weakens outside of the South
O M G. Are you a bot or are you serious? No way people believe this propoganda. This was an act of blatant corruption by the DNC to rig the primaries for Biden. It's not even covert. It's blatantly obvious. And then corporate media covers it in a positive light instead of criticizing how undemocratic this move was. IT IS ESTABLISHMENT VS THE PEOPLE.
Iowa has to go
Iowa is a safe red state there's no point putting resources in a state that Democrats can't win in a general election.
So he wants to make the state which effectively handed him the nomination in 2020 the first one, hm.
Its not about Democrats or Republicans its supposed to be about the best for the United States of America. While are military personnel around the world are risking their lives and doing their job. Its time for the United States of America law makers to do something about TEFLON SHIFTY DONN. Instead of holding the court system hostage for another 5 years of his games. America needs CONGRASSS to work for the United States of America people
Iowa is deplorable, I want my state of South Carolina to be number #1
Go President Biden. Go Democrats. Vote!!!
WHY South Carolina 😕??? Pick a state that doesn't do voter suppression.
Seems like Nevada is the obvious choice to hold the first Democratic primary. Nevada is more diverse than Iowa, and unlike South Carolina Nevada is actually a swing state.
Yes, Nevada is half non-white, but California is 2/3 non-white, so is more diverse than Nevada. It is the best choice for first state, and deserves to go first, because it has the most voters.
@@deborahfreedman333 California does have the most voters. As somebody who sides with the Democrat coalition, I also want to make sure we pick a candidate that can win the electoral college. I’d rather voters in a crucial swing state make that decision.
For example when Hillary Clinton lost Wisconsin and Michigan in the 2016 primary that should have been a flashing red warning light for what could happen in the general election.
Java Joe's is closed anyway. 😢
Yes, they should change which states go first, but it should not be South Carolina, just to pander to one voting group. The Electoral College is unfair to more populated states, and not having the first primaries, in the states with the most voters, compounds that inequity. California is both the most populated state, and very diverse as it is only a third white. We have to stop pretending the only non-white people, in this country, are black. There are many minorities in the US, and California has them all, in decent numbers, including Native Americans, Hispanics and Asians. You cannot say that about South Carolina,. California is thus, far more diverse state than any South Carolina. *Be fair and have the first primary in California* ! (BTW I don't live in California, I just think it would be right.)
Let's say someone like Tim Ryan of Ohio (who lost to Vance four weeks ago, but is a moderate Democrat who might appeal to independents all across the country) wants to run in 2024. Do you have the $150 million to give him to run a presidential primary campaign in California? Could I ask for some of that before you shower him with the rest of your largesse? If you don't have a way to set up a pro-Ryan (or any other relative unknown) PAC to the tune of $150,000,000, how would you give Cong. Ryan a chance in California that he or some other candidate deserves? Public financing of campaigns? That has as much chance of happening as the elimination of the Electoral College.
That's why you start with states that have a population of five million, three million, and 1.4 million, not with one that has nearly 40 million people in it. SC is 26% African American and otherwise mostly European American. NH is 92% European American. Nevada is 30% Hispanic American, 11% African American, and 9% Asian American, with a scattering of other non-White ethnic groups, making it a diverse "majority minority" state, and one that teeters between Democrats and Republicans in statewide elections. (The voters there just elected a Republican governor and Democratic senator by small margins.) Then you add in larger and equally diverse swing states, like Georgia and Michigan.
Um...what more do you want?
If Biden runs again, he will almost certainly win SC easily. But that will get him no momentum, because he will be expected to win SC easily. If he is defeated or almost defeated there, he will face pressure to drop out, like LBJ did after almost losing the NH primary in 1968. Don't expect him to be held under 50%, as LBJ was, however, but he will still have to prove himself against intra-party opponents, if they emerge to challenge him, in NV and NH. I would suggest that Mr. Biden, a) wants Iowa out of the first slot, particularly since Iowa Democrats, sad to say, don't seem to have a really good handle on how to run a caucus, but refused to institute a primary instead; and b) wants to reward Cong. Clyburn for his help in 2020. In other words, why SC instead of some other smallish Republican state? Jim Clyburn. But I can't see any reason why Mississippi or Arkansas, for example, should be first, if you want a smallish state in the South instead of Iowa to go first. And you do want to pay attention to the South (sorry, Bernie, but you can't dismiss them as irrelevant, as you did in 2016) because you need to gain victories in VA, NC, and GA (Florida has become a hopeless case again for the Dems) in 2024 if you want an Electoral College mandate, not a bare majority, since NY, PA, IL, MI among other Northern states and even CA are losing electoral votes.
It should be Arizona, Nevada and New Mexico the same day then Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa and New Hampshire another day. Georgia, Michigan and Pennsylvania should separate considering a bigger states
Hope Elon Twitter drops don’t hurt our party?
The current system is unfair, but so is the proposed one. It is inherently unfair for the same state to get to go first every time. There should be a system where the various primary states alternate going first.
Why doesn't every state just do it on the same day?
No Midwest states?
@@frankbandera6591 Money. It would severely limit the types and number of candidates if they had to fund a campaign in all 50 states. They run in a few states, do well in the primary, attract more donors, rinse and repeat. Momentum. That’s impossible with same day primaries.
@@colbyepps2434 Michigan.
@@censoredopinions True, although maybe that's a good thing. Limit spending proportional to the state and have it all go at the same time. After all, elections are pretty-much simultaneous.
Woke white or black is the future,😳
Good. No offense to Iowa but it is tiny and rural.
Is the US tiny? Is it rural? No. Shake it up baby; twist and shout.
…HISPANICS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Past time for Dems to make a primary calendar that allows early participation by AA voters, who are the swing voters in the Dem primary. In 2020 Dems could have easily wound up with Sanders as the nominee while he was not the preferred candidate of the majority of the party. If Biden had just dropped out, as many candidates do, the party would have wound up with someone who was not the actual party's choice.
South Carolina is not diverse. I am sorry, it just isn't. I don't know if there is any state that is, except California. Why not start with California?
Way too expensive of a state to start in. Would only benefit candidates with really deep pockets. If you want the candidate with the most money to win, CA could be the place to start.
Let's go Democracy!! Time for a CHANGE!!!🇺🇸🎩🇺🇸🎩🇺🇸
Wasn't the last Iowa Caucus at total Fire hose kind of Train Wreck!💥🔥💥🔥
All I ask is that these "Christians"
Read Matthew chapter 6.
Clyburn
That's how Kamala got selected
Proof? No, no proof. Just what you'd like to believe.
@@gnirolnamlerf593
She dropped out of their primary, but got chosen by an old racist dude as vp.
Show of hands... who would let their daughter *intern* for Joe Scarborough ?
Be honest plz.
@@learnsteelguitarinretirement
Yeah I mean why not, Barack Obama let his 'daughter' Malia intern for Harvey Weinstein.
@@learnsteelguitarinretirement And if your daughter complained about her treatment, you would probably call her a liar. You BlueAnon zealots scare tf out of me
We've been through this Jam, stop spreading conspiracy theories from right wing media
@@Frieswayneisthyname
I despise "Right wing media" .
@@jamtommy6446 I don't see liberal media spouting this nonsense so where are you getting your ideas and conspiracy theories from?
I always knew that all candidates have to come south regardless of Iowa and New Hampshire.
Have we considered two simultaneous kickoffs. Thusly, leaving no one out of the mix. Inclusivity.
Moving it to a slave state. How diverse.
NH is such a bipolar state…Older boomers lean R…but the deniers are alive and well… The new vibe in the Seacoast is as B as thinking, feeling humans can be… The Live Free or Die motto isn’t representative of all in New Hampshire..After all we are the only New England state (without) legalized weed… lol… We do take our right to vote seriously…
I still feel we should treat the 1st 4 state Caucuses & Primaries (Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, & Nevada) as a mini Super Tuesday by having them all at once. Also, we should cut back on the amount of time the Primaries take to just 4 to 6 months since we don't need a full year to campaign for President like we did prior to the age of the internet.
Sounds a great idea and would consider adding Wisconsin and New Mexico too.
I feel bad for Norfolk Southern union rail workers down at Inman Yard in Atlanta forced to work without sick days or the right to strike by President Biden and Congressional Black Democrats like Raphaël Warnock. .Votes like this may be why more African Americans don't vote or switch to the GOP every election cycle. 🤠
You forgot to mention that they could have bargained away their $160,000 future annual salaries for more sick days. Suppose they had agreed to an increase up to $145,000 instead and traded the $15,000 a year (or some other amount) for sick days. I have no idea what the obscenely rich CEO's of the rail companies would have said, but considering that $145,000 is double the average salary of an American worker... Of course, they deserve the sick days. The question is whether they deserve the $160,000 transporting food while people providing millions with food at McWalBucks can't get $30,000 a year guaranteed. Unfortunately, nearly everyone is happy that billionaires can become billionaires. The billionaires have convinced most of the rest of us that they must be particularly intelligent, creative and dedicated to the good of the nation to have accumulated that amount of money. Any proof of that? In America, when push comes to shove, and you can only have one, sick days don't actually matter. Only the accumulation of money does. We seem to have forgotten that "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil."
All Mika does is ooooo, and aaaaaaa, and other jibberish.
It's not called "Morning Mika," is it? If you'd like to offer _Mika_ as a slang word for, say, _tea_ , we might be able to swing an Afternoon Mika show for her out of MSNBC, with all the cups around the table having a Lipton logo on them, and yes, it would be a better show than the one she's appearing on now. Let's see, "I'd like a cup of Mika, preferably Darjeeling, at 4pm." "I just can't get started without my cup of Mika in the morning." Fine with me.
11/5/22
🙏🇮🇱🙏GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN JESUSCHRIST NAME AMÉN 🙏🇮🇱🙏
Dalbashada cadaalada waxan ku waayayo aan ku waayo xoriyad iyo deganaan waxbarasho la socoto ayaan dalbanayaa iftiin baan dalbanaa waxan dalbanaa umarada xaqsoorka ah
Good for you, I hope you find your mom.
Joetato 2024 !!!
(Let the hilarity continue)
With help from Klaus Schwab and WEF
Bye, bye Iowa! Bring the Primary to South Catalina, then Michigan use Black Hemp Farmers & The Veteran Green Jobs in Solar and Auto Industries to lead the platform and the party.
I love when biden gives speeches 😂❤️😂❤️
sooooo skankhunt got suspended 🤣🤣❤❤😅😅😅😅
@@joshrunningdownthehawley7461 no I honestly do love when he gives speeches. Literally every speech gives new gaffs to laugh at.
It makes me laugh when the Republicans take even the simplest of speeches out of context.
@@DarthSailorMoo lol how do you take mumbling out of context, or waving to nobody, or calling out for people that died, or subtly adding some racist remarks. 😂😂😂 Biden is a gaff machine and you don't need to take anything out of context to see
@@DeltaTango2024 Ask a Republican who can't even tell the difference between mumbling and normalcy.
Making South Carolina first would be an awful choice because it would result in an unelectable Democrat getting an early advantage. The reason is because South Carolina is a red state and it’s Democratic voters lean right. The activist, more progressive base won’t be motivated to support another corporate Dem.
LOL, that is entirely not even close to true. I live in South Carolina, there is nothing right wing deniers, and poor education. We had to wait till a Democrat got elected as president till schools finally started getting put in. If you even step foot in SC, you'll fear just walking past a Republican.
@@DarthSailorMoo For the past 2 presidential elections, Clyburn has been the Dem’s establishment gatekeeper. In 2016, he got Trump elected because he got behind the hugely unpopular establishment candidate, Clinton. In 2020 he did the same by standing in the breach against the much more popular progressive candidate, Sanders, and instead supported Biden, who was flagging horribly in the previous primaries. Biden barely won the general, in a year which should have a lay up for the Dems given who the Dems were seeking to oust from the WH.
@@damiannelson9820 LOL, Biden won with the biggest landslide in history, and the Republicans are embarrassed over it. You're nothing but a typical miss informed sheep.
@@DarthSailorMoo I’m misinformed huh? Who is the most popular Washington politician for like the last 11 years running? Which 2016 presidential hopeful had a significant chunk of his voters switch to Trump once Clinton became the nominee? If the point is to win elections, and to have your candidate win with a popular mandate, running corporate-backed candidates as your Democratic nominee is not the way to achieve success, particularly when it comes to enacting social policies that 70% of the country supports.
@@damiannelson9820 Reading that hard, huh? I already answered.
What An Idiotic Excuse For A Human Being. LET'S GO BRANDON!!
Scarborough's dead intern wants to remind us that she's still dead while Scarborough spouts his hate on the channel of hate !
No, she does not want to remind us. YOU want to remind us of YOUR opinion. No one knows her opinion. At least be honest.
Its still 2022, why are we talking about 2024?
Paul: Because the only thing that counts in the USA these days is money and news shows make money when they talk about elections and politics. At least MSNBC doesn't dwell on 2020. News Divisions have long since ceased to be allowed to be loss leaders. They are expected to make money, just like RuPaul's Drag Race, NCIS and Monday Night Football. By talking about 2024 is how they make money in 2022. To be fair, MSNBC gives plenty nof coverage to other news besides 2024 politics. I mean, the avoidance of a rail strike was covered and is certainly a matter of the here and now. The war in Ukraine is certainly of the year 2022 (and sadly, 2023, at least).