Double Right Turn Lane Red Arrow and Red Ball Traffic Lights

[@Wisdom13568]

When the pedestrian light tense white, the left, turning light should be red
For some reason, only the right side pedestrian light is white, and the left side pedestrian light is red, and then the left turning light is green???
Usually, both sides of the pedestrian crosswalk lights are synchronized

[@traffic.engineer]

Does the MUTCD allow a right red arrow to the left of a red ball?

[@peteryu9527]

It should, given that a red ball would be used to allow RTOR. The MUTCD requires a R10-10R sign if a red ball exists, though that would likely be unnecessary in this case because a right red arrow already exists. Pages 698 and 699 in the MUTCD discuss this: mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/11th_Edition/part4.pdf

[@traffic.engineer]

@@peteryu9527 and that was based on a complete falsehood. FHWA based it on the UVC, set by NCUTLO who said the majority of states restrict right turns on red arrow. And that was a total lie.

[@AmtrakProductions]

Very confusing signage

[@peteryu9527]

Also pretty unusual; WA law allows right turns on steady red arrows. In WA, RTOR is generally allowed from both or neither right-turn lanes.

[@AmtrakProductions]

@@peteryu9527 just unsure why an R10-11C wasn’t used

[@peteryu9527]

@@AmtrakProductions Would be a much better and less expensive option