Hi sir, loved your video. It was detailed, and to the point. Especially the screen recording of the laptop to depict a first hand experience was really amazing! Keep making content like these. These old tanks do not need to be a part of e-waste or landfills, they can always be breathed in with new life by installing Linux on an SSD. Even I was thinking of handing down an old yet a beefy Sony Vaio to my cousin with Linux Mint on it.
I'm running Linux Mint on a Dell E6220 with 12Gb of RAM and that is a 12 year old laptop, it plays 720p TH-cam videos without any problem, and as a cheap kids laptop or a laptop to take around for presentations or light office tasks on the go it is a great little PC. We need to get away from our throwaway society and recognize the value of things that still work and can be used. If it were a car that was 10 years old we would still use it, so why is tech only expected to last 4 years or so. Writing this on a Dell E7250 with a 5th gen i5 and Mint 22 All my 9+ year Dell laptops are great machines and still have many more useful years of life left in them.
I use Linux mint xfce because I want the best performance I can get. There’s an easy Linux tips for speeding up Linux mint to make it faster. Search how to speed up your Linux mint version 22 and desktop version mate xfce or cinnamon
I use Linux mint xfce because I want the best performance I can get. There’s an easy Linux tips for speeding up Linux mint to make it faster. Search how to speed up your Linux mint version 22 and desktop version mate xfce or cinnamon. Also if you are using cinnamon turn off animations and special effects they make cinnamon even heavier. Cinnamon is the hardest on system resources and hardware. Xfce is the lightest version it’s like windows 7 and earlier
Have Mint 22 running off a and Turin 64x2 Tl-60 based Gateway M1631-u with 4gb Ram successfully from 2008-9. While not a multimedia editing monster, it does basic office and browsing fine.
E5470 is one generation newer (6th gen vs E5440's 5th gen Intel), has DDR4 memory vs DDR3 and M.2 NVME/SATA slot so it's crazy upgradable and a very solid machine. The only downside is that it still comes with the old style dock connector and most used models I've seen only come with 786p screens (although apparently it did come with 1080p option). Got this one for a friend and saved myself an E5270 (identical but 12 inch screen instead of 14) and also found one cheap 5480 - also 6th gen i5, but with Thunderbolt docking port and 1080p screen. Laptops of that era are crazy good even nowadays, if I didn't have newer machines I'd daily drive them without a problem.
This came at the perfect time... I have an HP Envy 20 All-in-One with a 4010U/HD 4400, 2x4gb 1600mhz, and a 750gb 2.5 HDD... I'm deabting doing a board swap to the 4200U model, keeping my ram, replacing the HDD with a 1tb WD Blue SSD that I have laying around, and putting Linux on it... The most intense things I do on it all involve just a basic web browser and watching |TH-cam/Live streams...
@@burnbarrelmedia its already not too bad, being a 20 inch 1600 by 900 touchscreen panel, so i just run videos and streams at 720p... but the biggest benefits would be of course going from spinning platters to an ssd, and also the 4200u turbos to 2.6ghz, instead of being locked at 1.7 like the 4010u
2010-2015 was pretty much peak laptop. Even the MacBook Pros can be upgraded, and the MacBook Air of that period is as slim as anyone reasonable would want. The Thinkpads and Macs tend still to fetch a reasonable price, but the Latitudes are nice to upgrade, and seem to run a bit cheaper. And if you use the laptop for business/social type work, they're plenty powerful enough. I use Linux Mint on e-waste, btw.
I'm using a 15 year old Acer, at the moment, running Mint 20.3, end of life is next year so I'm upgrading to Mint 23, the only thing it struggles with is Darktable, heavy editing and export needs to be done one photo at a time. but apart from that does everything I ask of it. Being an engineer the old adage if it aint broke there's nothing to fix comes to mind.
Just finished install puppy OS on my old MSI Wind Netbook, it boots on a 32GB microSD card. Also tried MX Linux on a 16GB microSD card... and finally Linux Mint 6 Faye the internal 120GB SSD... all work fine...but not expecting good TH-cam playback nor 720p mkv videos (480p avi and mp4 were passable) might just use for IOT arduino/microphyton coding will try to install Debian base with MATE desktop later... (the fun never stops)
I'm running Faye in a Qemu/KVM virtual machine. I chose 6 over 22 because it's more Debian-based, but my main system runs Arch-based Garuda, and I use Cinnamon with it.
I have a couple of laptops that ran Win7 and are more than 10 years old. Linux Mint runs quite well on them. I did install an SSD and increased the RAM to it's maximum, but since they are old the RAM is pretty inexpensive, and of course SSD costs are way down. These will last, at least until Linux won't support the hardware anymore with the periodic upgrades. Even without those upgrades, they will still run, until a major hardware failure
Nice. I've got three old Dell laptops. All work great, but one (Inspiron 1720 from 2008) has trouble with Linux. So far only Xubuntu works for some reason. I really love the Precision series for work. The older 17" ones were really heavy beasts.
While I would always recommend Linux Mint on a PC/Laptop that can support the modern iso, if you are having trouble with older hardware Debian is always a good fallback and still has 32Bit ISO's available for very old hardware. The AntiX and MX Linux are great, Debian based but with several different ISO's (32/64Bit) depending on your hardware specs, and the biggest ISO still fits on a 2Gb Flash drive (assuming the hardware boots from USB)
I couldn’t get Linux Mint 22 to run on an old Dell latitude E5500 with 4 Gb of RAM but with MX Linux it booted and ran just fine. With a little bit of tinkering I got Samba file sharing to work but no luck installing a VNC server to run a Remote Desktop on the laptop. I’m going to replace the OS with Linux Lite because I had everything working when I ran it in a virtual machine and the support documentation for Linux Lite is far better than MX Linux.
I didn't really care for MX Linux, but I loved running EndeavourOS. MX Linux kept dropping my internet connection and the only way to resolve it was by restarting the computer. Still, it's always the #2 distro on Distro Watch.
1:00 Just loved the way you scraped the laptop around on a rough wooden surface. 😐 And since when did a Windows 10 installation require more than 4GB (Windows 10 Home) to 8GB (Windows 10 Pro)! 😂😂 256GB is more than adequate for even a Windows 11 Pro installation, particularly if you are going to use cloud or network storage for your data.
Since Win 10 won't be supported, it's a mute point. And Win 11 won't run on these machines so we can kiss Microsoft goodbye. And you proved my point. If you run Microsoft, you have to store your data on the cloud because it hogs all your HD space
Worth remembering you can put linux on a USB key and run it off of that without affecting the drive in the laptop. It's slower, but you can work out if a distro is for you before you installing it. I used to walk around with mint on a usb in my pocket with my desktop and apps on it, and plug it in most PCs. Everything I've tried to run linux on has been fine, with the exception of an old Asus gaming laptop. That particular model had a screen which misreported it's capabilities and the linux monitor driver therefore drove it incorrectly. A workaround required too much knowledge.
i recently installed a lite weight linux from a 2007 desktop (upgraded cpu and ram in its life) Linux : Q4OS Specs AMD AM3 X3 710/6GB DDR2/Radeon X1250 integrated/80gb sata hdd run real snappy and far from junk!
Even today, 256GB is plenty as long as you aren't gaming and have somewhere else to store your photos, etc. I looked it up and it appears that you can buy a 256GB SSD for around $20. So $68 for your complete setup.
I have an old ASUS Win7 that is about the same edge. They keyboard had gone out so I replaced the laptop without another computer. Just for the heck of it I checked on line and found replacement keyboards for under $20. Bought one and it still booted into Win7. I already had set it up with 2 partitions so I cleared some space and installed Mint 21.3 as a dual boot. (Have a couple of ballistics programs on it that I can't find equivalent for Linux.) Only issue I had is that it is so old that it won't boot from USB so I had to create a installation DVD. All in all it works great and will do whatever I need it to do. FWIW, I have 2 desktops, one pure Linux and the 2nd, my main daily use one, Linux on a VM hosted by Win10.
First I've seen 2 of your videos. You make what you teach extremely easy. Thank you so much. I'm new to Linux so that's very helpful. I have seen others that make Linux sound very complicated. Ok - so I just got gifted an older HP Envy that has a removable screen like a touch tablet. Would Mint 22 access that tablet feature ? I'm going to have to change the HD as it is setup for Portuguese.
WOW, the HP Envy. I remember that came out a long time ago. I would guess it would work fine. But what you could do is boot it with a live USB and see if everything works
Oh See message below. Portuguese laptop... It is an HP ENVY x2 PC 11-g050br. Intel Atom z2760 (1.8 Ghz) processor. Solid state 64GB. 2 MB SDRAM. Win 8 was installed. Thanks again for your ez to understand videos.
Great video! Always love watching old laptops being renewed for life.
Hi sir, loved your video. It was detailed, and to the point. Especially the screen recording of the laptop to depict a first hand experience was really amazing! Keep making content like these. These old tanks do not need to be a part of e-waste or landfills, they can always be breathed in with new life by installing Linux on an SSD. Even I was thinking of handing down an old yet a beefy Sony Vaio to my cousin with Linux Mint on it.
Thank you
I'm running Linux Mint on a Dell E6220 with 12Gb of RAM and that is a 12 year old laptop, it plays 720p TH-cam videos without any problem, and as a cheap kids laptop or a laptop to take around for presentations or light office tasks on the go it is a great little PC. We need to get away from our throwaway society and recognize the value of things that still work and can be used. If it were a car that was 10 years old we would still use it, so why is tech only expected to last 4 years or so. Writing this on a Dell E7250 with a 5th gen i5 and Mint 22 All my 9+ year Dell laptops are great machines and still have many more useful years of life left in them.
I agree, why do people think they need to upgrade every couple of years? These machines run fine!
I use Linux mint xfce because I want the best performance I can get. There’s an easy Linux tips for speeding up Linux mint to make it faster. Search how to speed up your Linux mint version 22 and desktop version mate xfce or cinnamon
I use Linux mint xfce because I want the best performance I can get. There’s an easy Linux tips for speeding up Linux mint to make it faster. Search how to speed up your Linux mint version 22 and desktop version mate xfce or cinnamon. Also if you are using cinnamon turn off animations and special effects they make cinnamon even heavier. Cinnamon is the hardest on system resources and hardware. Xfce is the lightest version it’s like windows 7 and earlier
Have Mint 22 running off a and Turin 64x2 Tl-60 based Gateway M1631-u with 4gb Ram successfully from 2008-9. While not a multimedia editing monster, it does basic office and browsing fine.
I have 2 of these old dells. 5470s. Both running mint. Both rocking.
E5470 is one generation newer (6th gen vs E5440's 5th gen Intel), has DDR4 memory vs DDR3 and M.2 NVME/SATA slot so it's crazy upgradable and a very solid machine. The only downside is that it still comes with the old style dock connector and most used models I've seen only come with 786p screens (although apparently it did come with 1080p option).
Got this one for a friend and saved myself an E5270 (identical but 12 inch screen instead of 14) and also found one cheap 5480 - also 6th gen i5, but with Thunderbolt docking port and 1080p screen. Laptops of that era are crazy good even nowadays, if I didn't have newer machines I'd daily drive them without a problem.
This came at the perfect time... I have an HP Envy 20 All-in-One with a 4010U/HD 4400, 2x4gb 1600mhz, and a 750gb 2.5 HDD... I'm deabting doing a board swap to the 4200U model, keeping my ram, replacing the HDD with a 1tb WD Blue SSD that I have laying around, and putting Linux on it... The most intense things I do on it all involve just a basic web browser and watching |TH-cam/Live streams...
I bet it would fly on that machine
@@burnbarrelmedia its already not too bad, being a 20 inch 1600 by 900 touchscreen panel, so i just run videos and streams at 720p... but the biggest benefits would be of course going from spinning platters to an ssd, and also the 4200u turbos to 2.6ghz, instead of being locked at 1.7 like the 4010u
I have an old Asus i5 with 12 Gb ram and going to do the same installing Debian, I think its going to be wonderful after that. Thanks for the video!
YW. I think mint will scream on that i5
yeah more bridge or railroad or tunnel will be amazing sir
2010-2015 was pretty much peak laptop. Even the MacBook Pros can be upgraded, and the MacBook Air of that period is as slim as anyone reasonable would want. The Thinkpads and Macs tend still to fetch a reasonable price, but the Latitudes are nice to upgrade, and seem to run a bit cheaper. And if you use the laptop for business/social type work, they're plenty powerful enough. I use Linux Mint on e-waste, btw.
I'm using a 15 year old Acer, at the moment, running Mint 20.3, end of life is next year so I'm upgrading to Mint 23, the only thing it struggles with is Darktable, heavy editing and export needs to be done one photo at a time. but apart from that does everything I ask of it. Being an engineer the old adage if it aint broke there's nothing to fix comes to mind.
LOL I agree
We have an old Thinkpad with mint 22 on it, the kids use for homework. Great general use machine
Nice!
Just finished install puppy OS on my old MSI Wind Netbook, it boots on a 32GB microSD card.
Also tried MX Linux on a 16GB microSD card...
and finally Linux Mint 6 Faye the internal 120GB SSD...
all work fine...but not expecting good TH-cam playback nor 720p mkv videos (480p avi and mp4 were passable)
might just use for IOT arduino/microphyton coding
will try to install Debian base with MATE desktop later... (the fun never stops)
LOL It sure is fun 🙂
I'm running Faye in a Qemu/KVM virtual machine. I chose 6 over 22 because it's more Debian-based, but my main system runs Arch-based Garuda, and I use Cinnamon with it.
I use a Macbook Air 2012, dualcore, 4 Gb Ram with Linux. Pop OS since 2018. Recently Mint XFCE. Still great for light office use.
I have a couple of laptops that ran Win7 and are more than 10 years old. Linux Mint runs quite well on them. I did install an SSD and increased the RAM to it's maximum, but since they are old the RAM is pretty inexpensive, and of course SSD costs are way down. These will last, at least until Linux won't support the hardware anymore with the periodic upgrades. Even without those upgrades, they will still run, until a major hardware failure
Nice.
I've got three old Dell laptops. All work great, but one (Inspiron 1720 from 2008) has trouble with Linux.
So far only Xubuntu works for some reason.
I really love the Precision series for work. The older 17" ones were really heavy beasts.
While I would always recommend Linux Mint on a PC/Laptop that can support the modern iso, if you are having trouble with older hardware Debian is always a good fallback and still has 32Bit ISO's available for very old hardware. The AntiX and MX Linux are great, Debian based but with several different ISO's (32/64Bit) depending on your hardware specs, and the biggest ISO still fits on a 2Gb Flash drive (assuming the hardware boots from USB)
I couldn’t get Linux Mint 22 to run on an old Dell latitude E5500 with 4 Gb of RAM but with MX Linux it booted and ran just fine. With a little bit of tinkering I got Samba file sharing to work but no luck installing a VNC server to run a Remote Desktop on the laptop. I’m going to replace the OS with Linux Lite because I had everything working when I ran it in a virtual machine and the support documentation for Linux Lite is far better than MX Linux.
I didn't really care for MX Linux, but I loved running EndeavourOS. MX Linux kept dropping my internet connection and the only way to resolve it was by restarting the computer. Still, it's always the #2 distro on Distro Watch.
1:00 Just loved the way you scraped the laptop around on a rough wooden surface. 😐 And since when did a Windows 10 installation require more than 4GB (Windows 10 Home) to 8GB (Windows 10 Pro)! 😂😂
256GB is more than adequate for even a Windows 11 Pro installation, particularly if you are going to use cloud or network storage for your data.
Since Win 10 won't be supported, it's a mute point. And Win 11 won't run on these machines so we can kiss Microsoft goodbye. And you proved my point. If you run Microsoft, you have to store your data on the cloud because it hogs all your HD space
Worth remembering you can put linux on a USB key and run it off of that without affecting the drive in the laptop. It's slower, but you can work out if a distro is for you before you installing it. I used to walk around with mint on a usb in my pocket with my desktop and apps on it, and plug it in most PCs. Everything I've tried to run linux on has been fine, with the exception of an old Asus gaming laptop. That particular model had a screen which misreported it's capabilities and the linux monitor driver therefore drove it incorrectly. A workaround required too much knowledge.
i recently installed a lite weight linux from a 2007 desktop (upgraded cpu and ram in its life)
Linux : Q4OS
Specs
AMD AM3 X3 710/6GB DDR2/Radeon X1250 integrated/80gb sata hdd
run real snappy and far from junk!
I run the 32-bit Q4OS on a Samsung NC-10 netbook with 2GB ram... 🙂
I love it. Long live LM 17.3 ha ha
Even today, 256GB is plenty as long as you aren't gaming and have somewhere else to store your photos, etc. I looked it up and it appears that you can buy a 256GB SSD for around $20. So $68 for your complete setup.
Insane isn't it? LOL
I have an old ASUS Win7 that is about the same edge. They keyboard had gone out so I replaced the laptop without another computer. Just for the heck of it I checked on line and found replacement keyboards for under $20. Bought one and it still booted into Win7. I already had set it up with 2 partitions so I cleared some space and installed Mint 21.3 as a dual boot. (Have a couple of ballistics programs on it that I can't find equivalent for Linux.)
Only issue I had is that it is so old that it won't boot from USB so I had to create a installation DVD. All in all it works great and will do whatever I need it to do. FWIW, I have 2 desktops, one pure Linux and the 2nd, my main daily use one, Linux on a VM hosted by Win10.
That's awesome!
Dell 780 from 2009 with 4GB Ram. Runs latest Mint fine.....Also on a MacBookPro (late 2008)...
loaded mint22 on 10 yr old acer laptop 3 months ago, working as everyday system
First I've seen 2 of your videos. You make what you teach extremely easy. Thank you so much. I'm new to Linux so that's very helpful. I have seen others that make Linux sound very complicated.
Ok - so I just got gifted an older HP Envy that has a removable screen like a touch tablet. Would Mint 22 access that tablet feature ? I'm going to have to change the HD as it is setup for Portuguese.
WOW, the HP Envy. I remember that came out a long time ago. I would guess it would work fine. But what you could do is boot it with a live USB and see if everything works
i put Linux Mint Debian Edition on a 20 yr old Dell Latitude D505 from 2004 , works great... for what it is..
Wow, 20 yrs old. that's fantastic
Oh See message below.
Portuguese laptop...
It is an HP ENVY x2 PC 11-g050br.
Intel Atom z2760 (1.8 Ghz) processor.
Solid state 64GB.
2 MB SDRAM.
Win 8 was installed.
Thanks again for your ez to understand videos.
Thanks. I would try installing it. Nothing to lose
I buy laptops like these and upgrade the with ssds and then sell them for 100-120 euros.Good fun :)
And they sometimes run better than new $1000 machines!