Surprise Yourhammer or Lorehammer w/ Tom & Ben
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Always really hated the retcon of the lone, unnamed guardsman. The whole point of the story is that even the smallest, weakest man in the Imperium can make a difference by holding the line and never giving up, and it brings up a question of whether it actually happened or whether the Imperial Guard made it up as propaganda. Turning him into an immortal buddy of the Emperor entirely ruins the point and controversy of the story.
Legitimately I feel that all warhammer and 40k lore gets worse every year.
yeah, they ruined him :/ the unnamed guards man, sometimes refereed to as Ollanius Pius, was the prime example or humanity, why the Emperor kept fighting for humanity even though he felt like he was beaten and defeated. Ollanius Pius was the perfect symbol for Imperial Guard regiments, the average Joe stepping up for something greater than himself, sacrificing himself for the future of mankind. Everyone could be an Ollanius Pius. Now he is just a stupid never die, the most boring type of character.
Warhammer lore can only be good and fun if you ignore the bad and dumb parts, and that's like 80% these days.
@@sweatilaa5325 Its kinda funny how I jumped from being a Stars War lore nerd to Warhammer lore nerd because I felt Star Wars lore wasn't fun anymore because of how much bad and dumb parts they added and now it feels like Warhammer lore is undergoing the same thing
I lost it when Ben turned serious and said, "He did shoot JFK" lol XD
“He was on Theseus’s ship, the Odyssey”
Holy fuck, that’s wrong on so many levels it hurts. Ben conflated three separate Greek myths and heroes in just 7 words.
Did Ben conflate it or is it written badly in the book 😂
Kinda curious now
If you could explain how are these 3 miths, not 2 please. I don't get it.
Theseus and Odysseus are named.
Jason and the Argo are the actual myth being referenced.
The Horus Heresy series has this amazing ability to explore this setting and make it worse with every book without fail
Horus Heresy turning a mythic time period into "everything is Horus' fault, even the tyranids"
@@TheKsalad Technically now everything is the Primarch's mum's fault, since she decided last minute that instead of letting the Emperor use their children for war, the best thing to do was to throw them into random warp portals as babies.
If perpetuals were used far more carefully and restrictively they might have been interesting, but most of their stuff is just "Oh yeah this dude was in that myth or that conspiracy theory"
It's also an issue that Perpetuals used to actually do shit in the current plot, they were a whole conspiracy thing and their immortality was kinda part of the whole 10k year long plot, not a matter of "Here's Jeff, he was from ancient Egypt"
Theseus was the one in the labyrinth with the Minotaur. Odysseus was the one in the Odyssey, that's why it's called the Odyssey.
The Never Dies are pretty much immortal Forest Gumps
I love that "look out sir" is a verb
"I was on a dinosaur," fucking killed me 😆
"And then I made Dino Riders as well"
Top tier Ben play.
Little bit cheaty, using the double after it’s forgotten, but also using it on an unofficial round so he doesn’t actually gain from the cheaty move. Classic Ben.
Never expected to set this in motion with my dono. Remember people, I want to hear weird folklore stories next week 😁
Off the top of my head, I remember the Welsh tradition of Mari Lwyd, as well as the "Gelert the faithful dog" story.
Some folkstories that I know are in folk songs, like:
- The Cockerham Devil (where the devil lands on a roof in a village and a teacher has to outwit him with 3 tasks.)
- The Dreadful Ghost (aka Flame of Fire, where a man wrongs a lady, so she dies and haunts him and chases him to the ends of the earth. She commands a ghost ship and tracks him down. Then she forces him down into the ship, and then sinks it in a blaze of fire.)
- King Henry (song where a king has to please a horrible Beowulf-like monster, and in the end it turns into a beautiful maid and marries him)
- Reynardine (where a fox man lives in the mountains of England and woos passing ladies)
- The Golden Vanity
- Long Lankin
Oh and the "Hand of Glory,"
Which is an English legend, where you first pickle the hand of a dead criminal, and then make candles out each of his fingers, using his hair as the wick.
Then, if you light it and hold this candle-hand up and break into a house, all the residents will instantly fall asleep, and you can rob the place blind.
Listen to loremen!! It's exactly what you looking for.
When you got to the “guy jizzums in his pants every time he quantum leaps” I fucking lost it!
A soldier running away from giant bugs proudly shouting "I'm doing my part" like Ralph Wiggum. You know, like in the film. The film we all definitely watched.
The Enuncia bullshit just sounds like someone badly remembering the plot of snowcrash
BEN : They are both true.
Me: The worst possible outcome :-D
The whole "it rhymes" thing is so much worse when its told out of order/retconed.
What a lovely little treat!
I mean, technically, it's the same story. The betrayal happened because one of them wanted to destroy Enuncia and the other wanted to use it.
Isn't the time/space knife most of Phillip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy?
I don't think it goes through time, but it does go through reality
I miss this series so much
I miss them posting these on their channel atleast I can still binge them tho
Ooooo! What a treat!
These lorehammers are my favourite part of Ben and Tom time 😍
I never wanted to picture ejaculation as a penis vomiting, but now I do. Thanks Tom.
This is why I love 1d4chan and the other meme 40k boards, because they all take the piss out of these moronic Black Library books 😂 if y'all haven't yet, look up the origin stories of the original "That Guy" and thank me later.
Fuck me. At 2:47 I wanted to sling my phone across the room. Yuck. Then it just gets worse.
Speaking of dropping the atomic bomb, the guy who dropped one of them was from my hometown
what game are they playing!? I NEEEEED IT
More please
What vod is this from?
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Oh god i hate both ones so much lol...
OH GOD THEY ARE BOTH TRUE OH GOD I HATE IT SO MUCH
Perpetuals are the worst thing in warhammer lore.
I thought the dumb thing was that there was a language called enuncia. I love the minis and games but the lore is just the worst
all the lore?
@@dicedoom7162 all the lore I've ever heard. The more I read about a faction the more lame I think they are.
the constant grimdark edgelord tone that takes itself way too seriously while everything is over the top cartoonish nonsense. The lore fundamentally seems to be at odds with itself
@@5Amigos32 yeah you get it! i love that stuff haha
Orcs lore is pretty good, or at least entertaining
I disagree.
I really like perpetual Ollanius Pius.
I think you mean Jeff Never-Die