Some annotations that might be interesting for the curious: Early in the video I mentioned that New Jersey is sinking. There's a whole lot more on that point. You can hear from an array of Rutgers University professors on the issue in this fantastic documentary produced by the university in 2016: th-cam.com/video/G7YJgsliy1g/w-d-xo.html I also mention the Hudson River Tunnel in passing. Regional Plan Association produced this great explainer video detailing the vulnerabilities facing the entire Northeast Corridor: th-cam.com/video/H1xPZYiQEUY/w-d-xo.html - Carlos W.
The thought of being stuck on a train and waiting for high tide to go out before continuing is a powerful mental image. They should start using that in advertising campaigns.
That's actually really true. That thought has stuck with me since he said it so that's got to be proof that it works at getting the point across. The thought of us being _that much_ at the mercy of nature in a place like New Jersey is an interesting thought
Well, not everybody. I am in Idaho, the only trains we have are ones that carry freight, not passengers. In fact, most of the country is like that. Its mostly people who live in huge population centers like new York that know what it's like to ride a train every day.
Cadger Christmas Light Show Most of the US *geographically* is like that. Population wise most people live in these huge population centres and near the coast. That's enough people who would be affected by this for it to work.
Being from NJ, I can tell you no one in that state even talks about this issue. NJ has been steadily eroding every natural region for the sake of fueling real estate bubbles. Even though numerous environmentalist warn that further erosion of these areas will have serious economic impact on the region. Hurricane Sandy was actually a vindication of many of those warnings, as the unspoken factor for the majority of the property damage along the coast was a consequence of lax zoning and environmental protection brought on by real estate developers lobbying. Many of those home owners were not even aware they bought a house on property that was deemed in a potentially dangerous or hazardous zone. I don't think some of the major economic impacts will be as pronounced as the end of the video warned. In my opinion much of the infrastructure will be protected with retaining walls or raising them. In a longer timeline this environmental impact will have serious implication on the future growth and development of the Northeast Corridor, and we may start to see a new urban metropolis growing and supplanting NYC, but that might happen in 100 years. For the foreseeable future, no expense will be spared to maintain the viability of that Washington/Philadelphia/NYC/Boston corridor.
Trump has assured us repeatedly that there is no global warming, he's not a Russian traitor, and there is no massive corruption in his administration, so I'm sure everything's okay.
KEEP CALM and PLAY SOCCER IN YOUR PAJAMAS I would not give you two rubles for Trump but we need to remember coastal subsidence is a natural thing and has NOTHING to do with climate science and will not go away because of a carbon tax.
I live in Jersey, go to rutgers, and take transit every day. I went to high school in Hoboken, and everytime it rained there was always flooding. This video touched a lot of bases with me and expressed what some new Jersey residents go through.
cristian rosales Because most people are incapable of understanding the bigger picture.."why should I care as long as I am fine" is the attitude of the average human.
I've been living in my home state of New Jersey for all my life and this video is really powerful, because it doesn't effect all of New Jersey, but rather the coastal regions and the meadowlands. You see, New Jersey's economy is helped to really important industries, tourism and manufacturing, both of which can really be effected by high tides and rising sea levels. Water can easily flood places like Atlantic City, Cape May, Long Beach Island, and some hotspots for vacationers across the country. What can also be effected is our manufacturing economy. I like how Vox points out how we have to service and cope with New York City, where at the start of the Industrial Revolution, started building factories and power plants to help service the city, considering its close vicinity and low costs. In fact, Paterson, New Jersey, was chosen by Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton as the starting place of the Industrial Revolution, starting by the great Paterson Falls, the second highest waterfall in North America. However, while the state's manufacturing economy has withered away since the rise of labor unions and higher costs around the country for blue collar workers, New Jersey manufacturing has shrunk into two main areas, each for their respective cities. A strip of factories along the Delaware River servicing Philadelphia, and the manufacturing plants that service New York City which is in the Meadowlands area. What I'm trying to say is the threat of climate and change and rising sea levels can be such a hard blow to our state's economy, with at least thousands of jobs being abandoned in addition to as mentioned in the video, many homes and towns being abandoned as well. The meadowlands is in addition to being a manufacturing hub, a transportation hub, one that I have lived just minutes away from my entire life. New Jersey Transit, Garden State Parkway, New Jersey Turnpike, I-95, and Newark Liberty International Airport are all located in the Meadowlands area, because of all of its open space and close vicinity to New York City. Also by the meadowlands is both of New Jersey's largest cities, Newark and Jersey City. Both cities linger close to 300,000 population mark, as they are both up and coming in alternative energies, insurance, medicine, and other economies. The rise in sea level can both effect these cities that serve New Jersey a lot, especially Newark, in which the downtown area is situated on the Passaic River, which is what separates the city of Newark from Harrison and Kearny, which is in the meadowlands. Same thing with Jersey City, where its downtown is on the Hudson River, but many of its homes and middle to lower class housing is next to the meadowlands, sparking a potential major evacuation. In the end, something needs to be done about this in New Jersey.
Ah yeah, in the broader scheme of things there's also the 'reverse' option (although it could never truly be a reversal of everything back to the way it was; whatever tech/biotech we would use to reverse things would lead to an ecosystem that was different to before) but how about in this specific scenario?
Not for anything - it's not just New Jersey - but New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts on up the coast. And yeah - I've been through there on I-95 and I get wary of what's going to happen soon.I live in Providence and pretty near the Woonasquatucket river - and that baby floods every now and then particularly in the Valley section of Providence and what runs through there but the rails going south. And downtown Providence has flooded twice in the 20th century, 1938 and 1954. Now there are huge pumps and big barriers to eject storm water out. Plus two huge tunnels under the city to capture excess rainfall.
I live in North Wildwood, South New Jersey. A boardwalk town. Even with the slightest rain all of the streets are flooded. At high tide the water goes all the way up to the boards. My town was ruined by Sandy. Some places still haven’t recovered. It’s terrible.
Superb Media Content Creator we didn’t. Do you live an Kansas or something? Sandy ripped apart houses. I did not personally vote for Trump. So that was not my decision.
The New Jersey waterfront in Edgewater, Kearney, Harrison and probably Newark, cities along the Passaic and Hackensack river (tidal waters) are about 2 meters above sea level. These are major metropolitan centers and a huge amount of property, infrastructure and population areas. We are working hard, and have been for the last 40 years, to destroy the Wetlands between Hackensack and Rutherford.
I don’t get why people don’t see the economic opportunity here. You should be building these climate change protections into your city so when everyone else is flooded, people move to your city. Might not pay off now but will sure will in 20 years or so.
I will never understand why the Republicans turned away from climate change, and why American let it be polarised. Between 2004 and 2008 it was a bipartisan issue, but Obama addressing it made Republicans stop believing in it or something? Although I'm as progressive as they come, I do know there's a ton of conservative arguments to tackle climate change, the least of which is economical. I'll never understand why people can ignore it like they do.
Destined FG, the thought that the economic opportunities and economic implications of situations like this aren't made a bigger deal of is always such a frustration! The economic impacts to areas affected by these sorts of things are so large a lot of the time it's ridiculous to ignore!
Here you are worrying about flooding for New Jersey that’s going to be happening in 20 years, yet Houston and New Orleans have been flooding in this way for years. You don’t have to look so far into the future to see this kind of problem.
Aspect Science yeah I think my comment came off more cynical than I meant it. I was just pointing out that a lot of cities are already suffering from these problems, and some of the preventive methods talked about in this video need to be applied where there is already a problem. In the past 3 years Houston has had a “500 year flood” every year. Only one of those was Harvey, the rest were just rain events. My point was that you can already see the effects of flooding without looking too far into the future
I live on the Jersey Shore by wetlands and do waterproofing for a living. The state is doing a lot of work pouring tons of sand, building thick steel & concrete sea walls all up and down my town for 2-3 yrs they've haven't stopped working. And yes in high risk areas it's lots of work but most who live inland can get away with simple water management systems which is most of the population.
Seeing my own city of Ocean City in this video was very eye opening, flooding has always been a problem but I'd only thought of it as an excuse to get school canceled. Time to start thinking towards the future so that my city will still be there in 20-50 years.
To the person whom called me an idiot (Superb Media Content Creator), I would like to say that every time there is a heavy rain the downtown floods, not badly however it has standing water, there are some areas like Shadowmoss that flood very badly as well. In Charleston we have built everything on the marsh and the water tends to want to go to the marsh no matter how long people have had houses and stuff built there. This Will only get worse with the rising sea levels.
To the person whom called me an idiot (Superb Media Content Creator), I would like to say that every time there is a heavy rain the downtown floods, not badly however it has standing water, there are some areas like Shadowmoss that flood very badly as well. In Charleston we have built everything on the marsh and the water tends to want to go to the marsh no matter how long people have had houses and stuff built there. This
One thing I always hate about “disasters” in news is that they make reports of flooding and destruction seem like it’s a surprise, shock, or unforeseen freak occurrence. The Truth of the matter is, a disaster is always related to destruction, and nature acts (and destroys) in predictable ways. So, the conclusion has to be: Natural disasters are always the result of humanity failing to see what nature does And then build accordingly. If you build structures that are either 1) not in a disaster prone area, 2) elevated out-of a flood prone area, or 3) built to withstand any natural disaster without extra elevation, then it wouldn’t be a disaster now would it! We need to dispose of this idea that buildings (homes included) are disposable. We need to build strong in a way that lasts and consider the design, or “fashion,” of a structure second. Function should Always trump Form. If we understood nature and built everything to withstand whatever nature throws at it, then all the destructive things that we get scared about now would effectively become tourist attractions! Think about a future glass-top room in a building called the “tornado experience” or an observation platform above a river’s raging torrent at its peak, or an extremely fire resistant (effectively fireproof) building built in an area prone to fires, or a building in San Francisco, California called the San Fran Shaker. These silly ideas are unlikely, but you get the idea. If we build structures “properly” then what would be the big deal? There wouldn’t be! ...except for the entertainment value. Back on a serious note, if we used materials that are water and mold-safe instead of drywall, guarded electrical systems properly, and had seals on sewer systems, then buildings that would be flooded would be perfectly fine! Just rinse it off with a hose, mop it up, and get back to business. If we elevated flood-sensitive buildings and materials above the flood plain, they would be unaffected also. Think about Venice, Italy on this one, because the whole city is famous for being on stilts (except the port and train station.) Tornadoes and hurricanes are only really destructive to structures that are built improperly for the air pressure variations and wind speeds that those storms subject them to. Hotels, office buildings, hospitals, bridges, etc. escape those and stay standing (apart from broken windows) because they are designed to handle it. All structures should have that standard. Expensive? Short-term yes, but long-term definitely not.
Leif Harmsen You should visit the pine lands sometime. A few million (???) acres saved and protected from development. NJ may be the most industrialized state but it also has some really wonderful natural beauty and some fine state forests.
Absolutely. I know there are some really fine areas in NJ for natural history, and I'd love to visit the Pine Lands. NJ is also a hyper-productive way crazy mega industrialized beehive, and consequently also a major polluter: such a wonderful and interesting state of extremes and contradictions.
Live in hudson county basically in the meadowlands and when it rains heavily my basement floods about 2 feet. My whole neighborhood has been having the same issue when 20 years ago, it never happened. I also live below sea level at the bottom of a hill with a river very near by.
It's called the Hackensack Meadowland not the New Jersey Meadowlands. I should know, I live in one of the towns that make up the Meadowland and I have see the waterlevels rise over the last few decades
I used to live in the meadowlands when I was a baby, but since then, I now live by the jersey shore. The tides get really high when there’s a storm and almost all the time, there’s flooding. I live right by the ocean right now, like 10 steps out of my house I’m right by the ocean. :)
I live in the Chicago Suburbs, in one of the suburbs, Des Plaines, has a lot of flooding due to the Des Plaines River near by. The town is trying to buy houses in a certain pocket of land and demolish them so some swamplands are returned to the river. This would help stop flooding within the downtown region. It’s not because of sea level rising, it’s mainly due to the fact that so much infrastructure has been narrowing the area of the river for years causing uncontrollable floods.
The saddest thing is, this has become a partisan issue, not a humanity issue. And the only way that the right will see that this actually isn't a partisan issue is when its too late.
NoThrottle 2 They could just enlarge the Delaware Water Gap by eminent domain and relocate us all to PA. Who wants to move to Centralia?!?!? I understand it's "On Fire", the hot new place to live! That underground mine fire is just booming creating all sorts of new spaces. (to fall in to.)
I live in New Jersey and the meadowlands is one of the biggest entertainment centers in the state, making millions of dollars a year for the state. If there is one thing I know about us is we dont like the idea of changing or retreating. The biggest example of this is after Sandy. Most people just rebuilt the same way or put there houses on stilts instead of moving out of the areas that were proven to be dangerous. If I have to make one prediction for the state it would be keeping everything the same even though this data is out there.
@02:03 This happened to me way back in 1993 when my train was passing through Louisiana - we had to stop because of flooding... in fact, we had to go backwards for about an hour to avoid floating down the Mississippi River!
Bruh "Uhhh, so global warming is real based on our facts that we gathered the last 200 years..." "But, THE WINTER WAS COLD AND THE SUMMER NOT THAT WARM. SO NO GLOBAL WARMING"
The New Jersey Meadowlands is used as a prime example of what is coming. However, at 0:47 it is stated that the Meadowlands are sinking. Yes, some lands do sink especially if the ground is weak and a huge amount of building is done. So...why use the Meadowlands as an example when sinking is the problem and not sea level rise? Meadowlands is used as an example because there is no good example which would point to sea level rise as a major problem.
I live in this area. In fact I can pinpoint my house from the map they shown. I can personally say this is very true and my part of the state becoming wetter every year.
Hurricane Sandy wasn't technically a "hurricane" anymore once it struck NJ and NY, not even a tropical storm or depression -- just a really bad storm which sat in place for days and days and dumped epic amounts of rain and storm surge waters onto the mid-Atlantic and Northeast coast.
We shouldn't be focusing on how bad things are going to get, really, in my opinion. What we need to pay more attention to is how much things are _already worse_ than what they used to be fifty or twenty or ten years ago. People need to be shown just how drastically things have already changed for the worse, and not just repeatedly warned how it's going to get bad some day.
shingshongshamalama The problem is, rising temperature, precipitation and flooding aren’t worsening suddenly. These climate change effects kick in gradually. Early on when things weren’t too bad, no one is willing to take action despite being told that things would only go downhill very soon. Because there is always the counter-argument of climate change which is prefered by a vast populace for economic or selfish reasons. Like my mom who contiually refuses to switch off the AC, fans and (LED) lights when she goes to the grocery for more than an hour because her friend told her the swtiching uses more power than letting them on.
Thank science I live in Las Vegas! I’m from California, And my parents and all siblings live way up a hillside when we all lived together before becoming adults and moving on in life. I have never and will never know what flooding looks like 😀
I’m a civil engineering senior working on a project called NJ Flood Alert. We’re running the most accurate flood simulations ever done and we’re making flood road maps that will be put in a phone app that will inform people if their car is in a flood zone and give them a route to a safe area. We also have plans to rebuild a seawalls in New Jersey. Check us out @NJFloodAlert on social media. Not finished yet but you can follow our progress there!
I really like going by the meadowlands on the nj transit commute...that and the Ironbound smokestacks and Elizabeth roadways really selling the "heyhey I live in a semi-apocalyptic hellscape" look
This is probably a dumb question but: Why not use a machine to suck excess water from rising sea levels into a huge container. Then clean that water using reverse osmosis or whatever and provide it back to the community in their taps and toilets etc? Or even to communities that NEED clean water, like Flint. Or sell it. Idk. Ideas.
So a city was built in a marsh and now people are panicking because it's getting wetter? People have been adapting to changing topographic and weather conditions for thousands of years. We should certainly take better care of our planet, but that doesn't mean panicking over something we don't fully understand and can't control.
Yeah there’s no shot this is getting fixed. In Secaucus we just keep building new houses and outlets into the meadow lands because there’s nowhere else for anyone to build this close to NYC. Theres gonna be nowhere for the water to go.
You could also "retreat" by foreseeing emergency flood planes, that you deliberately let be flooded to store the excess amount of water and diverge it from flooding more important areas. Just placing flood walls is kinda pointless, as the water has to go somewhere, you are just moving the problem to somewhere else.
I lived in New Jersey my whole life and never experienced a single flood. Btw New Jersey is beautiful, this representation in this video is nothing like the real thing...
This summer has seen a lot of flooding in areas around north jersey that’s not mentioned in this video. Overdevelopment is the culprit and it just continues.
There are easy solutions to infrastructure, although mother nature will always win over land and sea. Respect earth, respect people, and don't fight back nature just flow with it. 🦈🐡🌊🌊
I worked on a GIS project on property use in the Kearny/Meadowlands area for USACE in the early ‘90s. Good to see that my work led to broad-based changes.😏
Some annotations that might be interesting for the curious:
Early in the video I mentioned that New Jersey is sinking. There's a whole lot more on that point. You can hear from an array of Rutgers University professors on the issue in this fantastic documentary produced by the university in 2016: th-cam.com/video/G7YJgsliy1g/w-d-xo.html
I also mention the Hudson River Tunnel in passing. Regional Plan Association produced this great explainer video detailing the vulnerabilities facing the entire Northeast Corridor: th-cam.com/video/H1xPZYiQEUY/w-d-xo.html
- Carlos W.
Vox Fake News!! GO Trump!
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You are traitors to America and I hope you get what traitors deserve. Your global warming scam is dead.
The thought of being stuck on a train and waiting for high tide to go out before continuing is a powerful mental image. They should start using that in advertising campaigns.
That's actually really true. That thought has stuck with me since he said it so that's got to be proof that it works at getting the point across. The thought of us being _that much_ at the mercy of nature in a place like New Jersey is an interesting thought
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I think it works because it's in a context that would directly affect you, as well as everyone else, day-to-day. It's brilliant.
Well, not everybody. I am in Idaho, the only trains we have are ones that carry freight, not passengers. In fact, most of the country is like that. Its mostly people who live in huge population centers like new York that know what it's like to ride a train every day.
Cadger Christmas Light Show Most of the US *geographically* is like that. Population wise most people live in these huge population centres and near the coast. That's enough people who would be affected by this for it to work.
Time to hire the Dutch. They've been fighting the sea for 800 years and are still winning.
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'The Dutch' sounds like the most badass nickname to have. "I'm The Dutch".
They don't even know what to do about it...
Oona, queen of Firemind...you might be onto something
jjspot they are the size of a peanut hire them they will protect nothing
Why are we still worrying about this?! I thought that by withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement this problem would magically go away.
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Welp
I want to see video of Christ Christie floating out to sea.
Let's build a bunch of flood walls and make the ocean pay for it.
Evan Xu
It's a joke you idiot.
LMAO: you have won the internet for today.
@Evan Xu r/wooosh
Evan Xu uhm.. I am embarrassed for you
Imagine living in New Jersey, waking up, opening TH-cam and seeing this at the top of your sub box.
My day is already ruined.
Beta I'm from NJ and I'm fine. It's only the cities close to shore that take most of the beating.
For now...
Abdukahor Muzaffarzoda Your whole state is close to the shore 🤣
Beta my day would be ruined simply waking up in jersey. Lol
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Being from NJ, I can tell you no one in that state even talks about this issue. NJ has been steadily eroding every natural region for the sake of fueling real estate bubbles. Even though numerous environmentalist warn that further erosion of these areas will have serious economic impact on the region. Hurricane Sandy was actually a vindication of many of those warnings, as the unspoken factor for the majority of the property damage along the coast was a consequence of lax zoning and environmental protection brought on by real estate developers lobbying. Many of those home owners were not even aware they bought a house on property that was deemed in a potentially dangerous or hazardous zone.
I don't think some of the major economic impacts will be as pronounced as the end of the video warned. In my opinion much of the infrastructure will be protected with retaining walls or raising them. In a longer timeline this environmental impact will have serious implication on the future growth and development of the Northeast Corridor, and we may start to see a new urban metropolis growing and supplanting NYC, but that might happen in 100 years. For the foreseeable future, no expense will be spared to maintain the viability of that Washington/Philadelphia/NYC/Boston corridor.
Stop helping spread lies. It's a scam.
I live in New Jersey and I love it so much and it’s so beautiful in my opinion
I too, live in New Jersey. But not in the Meadowlands
Sundip Singh - nothing too special, just very home-like since its the most densely populated state in he U.S.
I'm sorry
Sundip Singh I don't know, why are you asking me? I live in Norway.
Why do you have New Mexico's state flag then, or do you just like it?
The Newark airport is also in the meadowlands. Imagine having to wait for the sea level to go down in order to take off.
Imagine having an airport at all
Submarines can launch missiles while submerged; we'll figure something out.
According to Google Earth, the Newark airport runways are 10-15 feet above sea level.
that's nothing
Teteboro is closer to the Meadowlands. Newark Airport is not in the Meadowlands, but that too is pretty close to water.
It's almost like there were warnings about rising sea levels that we ignored and continue to ignore.
Trump has assured us repeatedly that there is no global warming, he's not a Russian traitor, and there is no massive corruption in his administration, so I'm sure everything's okay.
KEEP CALM and PLAY SOCCER IN YOUR PAJAMAS I would not give you two rubles for Trump but we need to remember coastal subsidence is a natural thing and has NOTHING to do with climate science and will not go away because of a carbon tax.
and I voted for Hillary Clinton. Those Repulicans will go to jail in 2020! GO Cory Booker!
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music I wouldn't trust Trump if i were you. (P.S I like your guitar playing it's pretty fire)
@@juststop9379 That's sound advice, and thank you.
I live in Jersey, go to rutgers, and take transit every day. I went to high school in Hoboken, and everytime it rained there was always flooding. This video touched a lot of bases with me and expressed what some new Jersey residents go through.
Ocean: accidentally spills its glass of water
Uh-uh ohh, sorry guys (read in deep, slow voice)
Hahahahaha! That was genius! Smooth as can be!
Oops, sorry. Didn't mean to. I'll just... try to wipe it aw-...
News headlines: NEW JERSEY HIT BY HUGE TSUNAMI, ENTIRE STATE DESTROYED.
Niry Biry hahahaha
More like ocean doing a spit take.
*Laughs in Dutch*
We hebben ons lesje wel geleerd na de watersnoodramp. Het lijkt er op dat New York een gokje durft te wagen.
New Amsterdam should never have been bought from the Dutch.
When 95% of the Netherlands and 99% of my country is underwater in a few decades... Keep laughing...
Derpmaster21
The Hapburgs should have always held on to the Dutch.
Derpmaster21 Meh, it was a good trade at the time. Both countries benefited.
Why don’t people listen to smart people??
cristian rosales because people are retarded and ignorant coming from a right leaning person
cristian rosales Because most people are incapable of understanding the bigger picture.."why should I care as long as I am fine" is the attitude of the average human.
Because most adults are still children who won't admit when they're wrong.
Because ignorant people think they know more than they do
cause everyone likes to believe that they are better than other people and that other people are stupid.
I've been living in my home state of New Jersey for all my life and this video is really powerful, because it doesn't effect all of New Jersey, but rather the coastal regions and the meadowlands. You see, New Jersey's economy is helped to really important industries, tourism and manufacturing, both of which can really be effected by high tides and rising sea levels. Water can easily flood places like Atlantic City, Cape May, Long Beach Island, and some hotspots for vacationers across the country. What can also be effected is our manufacturing economy. I like how Vox points out how we have to service and cope with New York City, where at the start of the Industrial Revolution, started building factories and power plants to help service the city, considering its close vicinity and low costs. In fact, Paterson, New Jersey, was chosen by Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton as the starting place of the Industrial Revolution, starting by the great Paterson Falls, the second highest waterfall in North America. However, while the state's manufacturing economy has withered away since the rise of labor unions and higher costs around the country for blue collar workers, New Jersey manufacturing has shrunk into two main areas, each for their respective cities. A strip of factories along the Delaware River servicing Philadelphia, and the manufacturing plants that service New York City which is in the Meadowlands area. What I'm trying to say is the threat of climate and change and rising sea levels can be such a hard blow to our state's economy, with at least thousands of jobs being abandoned in addition to as mentioned in the video, many homes and towns being abandoned as well. The meadowlands is in addition to being a manufacturing hub, a transportation hub, one that I have lived just minutes away from my entire life. New Jersey Transit, Garden State Parkway, New Jersey Turnpike, I-95, and Newark Liberty International Airport are all located in the Meadowlands area, because of all of its open space and close vicinity to New York City. Also by the meadowlands is both of New Jersey's largest cities, Newark and Jersey City. Both cities linger close to 300,000 population mark, as they are both up and coming in alternative energies, insurance, medicine, and other economies. The rise in sea level can both effect these cities that serve New Jersey a lot, especially Newark, in which the downtown area is situated on the Passaic River, which is what separates the city of Newark from Harrison and Kearny, which is in the meadowlands. Same thing with Jersey City, where its downtown is on the Hudson River, but many of its homes and middle to lower class housing is next to the meadowlands, sparking a potential major evacuation. In the end, something needs to be done about this in New Jersey.
Would love to hear people's thoughts on: *Prevent/Adapt/Retreat*
*Which do you think should be opted for and why?*
Prevention seems like the most forward-thinking option doesn't it?
Yeah I think I agree - if prevention fails then the other two would probably still be on the table as viable options?
Reverse: plant algae in oceans
Ah yeah, in the broader scheme of things there's also the 'reverse' option (although it could never truly be a reversal of everything back to the way it was; whatever tech/biotech we would use to reverse things would lead to an ecosystem that was different to before) but how about in this specific scenario?
Retreat and build smarter communities.
I work as a stormwater engineer and Vox did a great job explaining this issue.
Not for anything - it's not just New Jersey - but New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts on up the coast. And yeah - I've been through there on I-95 and I get wary of what's going to happen soon.I live in Providence and pretty near the Woonasquatucket river - and that baby floods every now and then particularly in the Valley section of Providence and what runs through there but the rails going south. And downtown Providence has flooded twice in the 20th century, 1938 and 1954. Now there are huge pumps and big barriers to eject storm water out. Plus two huge tunnels under the city to capture excess rainfall.
New York City has a department head whose job it is to deal with the flooding and storm effects of global warming. He doesn't smile much.
Absolutely! They made that about NYC so they could scare the most people possible. It's an investment in propaganda.
greetings from nj my fellow ri friend... I have visited 2 times to newport ri nice place it was
I live in North Wildwood, South New Jersey. A boardwalk town. Even with the slightest rain all of the streets are flooded. At high tide the water goes all the way up to the boards. My town was ruined by Sandy. Some places still haven’t recovered. It’s terrible.
Superb Media Content Creator nj was Democrat, we didn’t. People can’t imagine how awful sandy really was
Superb Media Content Creator we didn’t. Do you live an Kansas or something? Sandy ripped apart houses. I did not personally vote for Trump. So that was not my decision.
Song at 0:50 sounds like it comes right out of RuneScape 2007.
Yes!
just what i was thinking
lmao just had a blast from my childhood
FR can't explain it but even though runescape had low end graphics it was so different and really a pioneer
The New Jersey waterfront in Edgewater, Kearney, Harrison and probably Newark, cities along the Passaic and Hackensack river (tidal waters) are about 2 meters above sea level. These are major metropolitan centers and a huge amount of property, infrastructure and population areas. We are working hard, and have been for the last 40 years, to destroy the Wetlands between Hackensack and Rutherford.
I don’t get why people don’t see the economic opportunity here. You should be building these climate change protections into your city so when everyone else is flooded, people move to your city. Might not pay off now but will sure will in 20 years or so.
Destined FG economics and politics is a lot more complicated than that
I will never understand why the Republicans turned away from climate change, and why American let it be polarised. Between 2004 and 2008 it was a bipartisan issue, but Obama addressing it made Republicans stop believing in it or something?
Although I'm as progressive as they come, I do know there's a ton of conservative arguments to tackle climate change, the least of which is economical. I'll never understand why people can ignore it like they do.
The city is already implementing them on the down low, like massive flood gates.
Destined FG, the thought that the economic opportunities and economic implications of situations like this aren't made a bigger deal of is always such a frustration! The economic impacts to areas affected by these sorts of things are so large a lot of the time it's ridiculous to ignore!
Why make money in the future when you can make money now :))))))))
This is scary, I live right on the NJ side of the Hudson. Even just regular storms can cause bad flooding.
Anyone wanna go splitsies on a houseboat? In a few years, we can probably go sailing around Vermont 😉
You mean The Green Island State? Sign me up!
Yeah sure I'm in, I've got a boaters license from Mrs. Puff
ElyssaAnderson I’ll tag along! A boating caravan!
After you lose some weight, fatty.
I'll do it if I'm the captain
i live in new jersey and this is the first time i have ever heard of this LMAo
It's not that well known.
Here you are worrying about flooding for New Jersey that’s going to be happening in 20 years, yet Houston and New Orleans have been flooding in this way for years. You don’t have to look so far into the future to see this kind of problem.
People can worry about both though can't they? Like we can aim for Mars whilst still caring for our own planet?
Aspect Science yeah I think my comment came off more cynical than I meant it. I was just pointing out that a lot of cities are already suffering from these problems, and some of the preventive methods talked about in this video need to be applied where there is already a problem. In the past 3 years Houston has had a “500 year flood” every year. Only one of those was Harvey, the rest were just rain events. My point was that you can already see the effects of flooding without looking too far into the future
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I didn’t????..... why would you assume that I’m a republican?
I live on the Jersey Shore by wetlands and do waterproofing for a living. The state is doing a lot of work pouring tons of sand, building thick steel & concrete sea walls all up and down my town for 2-3 yrs they've haven't stopped working. And yes in high risk areas it's lots of work but most who live inland can get away with simple water management systems which is most of the population.
Global warming
There he is, we've been expecting you kind sir
I hate you, but still I liked your comment
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Justin Y. I see you everywhere
This man.
Seeing my own city of Ocean City in this video was very eye opening, flooding has always been a problem but I'd only thought of it as an excuse to get school canceled. Time to start thinking towards the future so that my city will still be there in 20-50 years.
Hi from NJ. Good video
Lord1cyrus *-WELCOME-*
Are you a fish?
I drive by this area every day and never noticed this..thx Vox!
Superb Media Content Creator I'm sorry
Thank God I have a DVD of Waterworld just for this.
"Nothing is free in waterworld!" ;)
Also need to get yourself some waterwings.
But do you know any mysterious little girls with huge maps tatooed on their bodies?
Err...actually, it's probably best to not tell anyone if you do.
Water is coming
To our houses.
beta wave and saachi flat earthers get real you can be killed or severely harmed by floods
Before you go to r/ facepalm
There is already this problem in Charleston but on a slightly smaller scale.
It might be about to increase in scale!
To the person whom called me an idiot (Superb Media Content Creator), I would like to say that every time there is a heavy rain the downtown floods, not badly however it has standing water, there are some areas like Shadowmoss that flood very badly as well. In Charleston we have built everything on the marsh and the water tends to want to go to the marsh no matter how long people have had houses and stuff built there. This Will only get worse with the rising sea levels.
To the person whom called me an idiot (Superb Media Content Creator), I would like to say that every time there is a heavy rain the downtown floods, not badly however it has standing water, there are some areas like Shadowmoss that flood very badly as well. In Charleston we have built everything on the marsh and the water tends to want to go to the marsh no matter how long people have had houses and stuff built there. This
One thing I always hate about “disasters” in news is that they make reports of flooding and destruction seem like it’s a surprise, shock, or unforeseen freak occurrence. The Truth of the matter is, a disaster is always related to destruction, and nature acts (and destroys) in predictable ways. So, the conclusion has to be: Natural disasters are always the result of humanity failing to see what nature does And then build accordingly. If you build structures that are either 1) not in a disaster prone area, 2) elevated out-of a flood prone area, or 3) built to withstand any natural disaster without extra elevation, then it wouldn’t be a disaster now would it! We need to dispose of this idea that buildings (homes included) are disposable. We need to build strong in a way that lasts and consider the design, or “fashion,” of a structure second. Function should Always trump Form.
If we understood nature and built everything to withstand whatever nature throws at it, then all the destructive things that we get scared about now would effectively become tourist attractions! Think about a future glass-top room in a building called the “tornado experience” or an observation platform above a river’s raging torrent at its peak, or an extremely fire resistant (effectively fireproof) building built in an area prone to fires, or a building in San Francisco, California called the San Fran Shaker. These silly ideas are unlikely, but you get the idea. If we build structures “properly” then what would be the big deal? There wouldn’t be! ...except for the entertainment value.
Back on a serious note, if we used materials that are water and mold-safe instead of drywall, guarded electrical systems properly, and had seals on sewer systems, then buildings that would be flooded would be perfectly fine! Just rinse it off with a hose, mop it up, and get back to business. If we elevated flood-sensitive buildings and materials above the flood plain, they would be unaffected also. Think about Venice, Italy on this one, because the whole city is famous for being on stilts (except the port and train station.)
Tornadoes and hurricanes are only really destructive to structures that are built improperly for the air pressure variations and wind speeds that those storms subject them to. Hotels, office buildings, hospitals, bridges, etc. escape those and stay standing (apart from broken windows) because they are designed to handle it. All structures should have that standard. Expensive? Short-term yes, but long-term definitely not.
You have earned my like
New Jersey, the most industrialized state in the most industrialized nation.
Leif Harmsen You should visit the pine lands sometime. A few million (???) acres saved and protected from development. NJ may be the most industrialized state but it also has some really wonderful natural beauty and some fine state forests.
Absolutely. I know there are some really fine areas in NJ for natural history, and I'd love to visit the Pine Lands. NJ is also a hyper-productive way crazy mega industrialized beehive, and consequently also a major polluter: such a wonderful and interesting state of extremes and contradictions.
Live in hudson county basically in the meadowlands and when it rains heavily my basement floods about 2 feet. My whole neighborhood has been having the same issue when 20 years ago, it never happened. I also live below sea level at the bottom of a hill with a river very near by.
It's called the Hackensack Meadowland not the New Jersey Meadowlands. I should know, I live in one of the towns that make up the Meadowland and I have see the waterlevels rise over the last few decades
Get Dutch engineers to fix the problem
boomers be like, "who cares? I'll be dead in 20 years"
We're fine. This is fine.
Matushca Précil no it's not. Putting your fingers and saying lalalala doesn't make climate change by man go away.
This is fine.
nyx no it's not.
Guys she's joking
At least the flooding will put out the fires. :3
This was my entire disaster management class in 7 minutes, and was way better.
Or we could call up Thanos to *ahem* help us with our problem.
Haha, ah jeez, this is both hilarious and dark as hell
I'm upvoting your comment Mr. Pineapple even though I'm not familiar with the reference, just because it's so damn articulate.
I used to live in the meadowlands when I was a baby, but since then, I now live by the jersey shore. The tides get really high when there’s a storm and almost all the time, there’s flooding. I live right by the ocean right now, like 10 steps out of my house I’m right by the ocean. :)
Why does New Jersey exist...
...just for it to suffer?
What does that even mean?
murrrmur Normi, it’s a meme
It's just the stereotype that New Jersey is crap.
And using Normie unironically is Normie.
beta wave N- Nani!?
Idk how people can say nj sucks when the mid West exists.
I live in the Chicago Suburbs, in one of the suburbs, Des Plaines, has a lot of flooding due to the Des Plaines River near by. The town is trying to buy houses in a certain pocket of land and demolish them so some swamplands are returned to the river. This would help stop flooding within the downtown region. It’s not because of sea level rising, it’s mainly due to the fact that so much infrastructure has been narrowing the area of the river for years causing uncontrollable floods.
The saddest thing is, this has become a partisan issue, not a humanity issue. And the only way that the right will see that this actually isn't a partisan issue is when its too late.
I'm literally watching this WHILE on an amtrak going up the northeast corridor from Philadelphia to New York!
Next thing we know, New Jersey will be a natural waterpark
NoThrottle 2 They could just enlarge the Delaware Water Gap by eminent domain and relocate us all to PA. Who wants to move to Centralia?!?!? I understand it's "On Fire", the hot new place to live! That underground mine fire is just booming creating all sorts of new spaces. (to fall in to.)
Rob Fowler i get your point but
whoosh
I live in New Jersey and the meadowlands is one of the biggest entertainment centers in the state, making millions of dollars a year for the state. If there is one thing I know about us is we dont like the idea of changing or retreating. The biggest example of this is after Sandy. Most people just rebuilt the same way or put there houses on stilts instead of moving out of the areas that were proven to be dangerous. If I have to make one prediction for the state it would be keeping everything the same even though this data is out there.
"Feminists and sjws flooded the streets"
Sargon of Akkkad
@02:03 This happened to me way back in 1993 when my train was passing through Louisiana - we had to stop because of flooding... in fact, we had to go backwards for about an hour to avoid floating down the Mississippi River!
But...but FOX News, uhm , says something else and it's cold outside!
Bruh "Uhhh, so global warming is real based on our facts that we gathered the last 200 years..." "But, THE WINTER WAS COLD AND THE SUMMER NOT THAT WARM. SO NO GLOBAL WARMING"
And don't forget that these "scientists" are jewish, leftist, anti-christian, communists from Israel!
Once again, an incredible, thought-provoking, AMAZING video, Vox! Why isn't it subtitled like most of your other ones are?
That sounds fine, NJTransit is garbage already.
lmao true force them to reconstruct
Phlegethon
Public transportation in the US is garbage.
Phlegethon
Lol. You forgot about all that freight that passes through your state.
Really is atrocious
Phlegethon The water will finally clean it up a bit
The New Jersey Meadowlands is used as a prime example of what is coming. However, at 0:47 it is stated that the Meadowlands are sinking. Yes, some lands do sink especially if the ground is weak and a huge amount of building is done. So...why use the Meadowlands as an example when sinking is the problem and not sea level rise? Meadowlands is used as an example because there is no good example which would point to sea level rise as a major problem.
does anyone know what music is used here?
There was a massive rainstorm last week! (I live in New Jersey)
I can agree with this...
*Aw shucks.*
Your videos have such a high quality and you always learn something new, really appreciate this channel!
Muh Trump!
Fergus J
I know right, I wish we had the Lizard people to be our president
As long as they don't take away my guns I'm okay with this.
I work in Atlantic City and I can tell you that these floods happen more than you would think. There are areas that are always flooded.
skeet to the yeet
j1nw0n yeet
Moments like this make feel glad I live in South Jersey near Philly
DINKLEBERG!!!!
Whew - Moonachie is my hometown, and my family got massive damage from superstorm Sandy. This is about as real as it gets.
There's a bright side though.
All the luxury ocean-front property gets washed away first.
Living in a small village close to a coastal town, this creeps me out a *lot* ... 🙈
For a minute I thought this was about MY state. Nope,I forgot I live in south jersey which doesn’t exist to half of the people in the world
I love this narrator's voice! I can listen to him reading the phone book aloud/reading an audiobook version of a phone book aloud lol
I live in this area. In fact I can pinpoint my house from the map they shown. I can personally say this is very true and my part of the state becoming wetter every year.
I live in NJ few miles from the coast and I have never heard of a flood problem only during hurricanes
Hurricane Sandy wasn't technically a "hurricane" anymore once it struck NJ and NY, not even a tropical storm or depression -- just a really bad storm which sat in place for days and days and dumped epic amounts of rain and storm surge waters onto the mid-Atlantic and Northeast coast.
As a Dutchman it baffles me how urban planning in a known flood risk area can so casually ignore flood risks.
Another great well thought of video from Vox keep up the hard work 👍🏼👍🏼
Thank's for making this video and putting effort into this cause !
Once again one of your videos have helped me get great information for a school essay or project 😅 so thank you I’ll mention you in my grad speech
We shouldn't be focusing on how bad things are going to get, really, in my opinion. What we need to pay more attention to is how much things are _already worse_ than what they used to be fifty or twenty or ten years ago.
People need to be shown just how drastically things have already changed for the worse, and not just repeatedly warned how it's going to get bad some day.
shingshongshamalama The problem is, rising temperature, precipitation and flooding aren’t worsening suddenly. These climate change effects kick in gradually. Early on when things weren’t too bad, no one is willing to take action despite being told that things would only go downhill very soon. Because there is always the counter-argument of climate change which is prefered by a vast populace for economic or selfish reasons. Like my mom who contiually refuses to switch off the AC, fans and (LED) lights when she goes to the grocery for more than an hour because her friend told her the swtiching uses more power than letting them on.
Thank science I live in Las Vegas! I’m from California, And my parents and all siblings live way up a hillside when we all lived together before becoming adults and moving on in life. I have never and will never know what flooding looks like 😀
I’m a civil engineering senior working on a project called NJ Flood Alert. We’re running the most accurate flood simulations ever done and we’re making flood road maps that will be put in a phone app that will inform people if their car is in a flood zone and give them a route to a safe area. We also have plans to rebuild a seawalls in New Jersey. Check us out @NJFloodAlert on social media. Not finished yet but you can follow our progress there!
I really like going by the meadowlands on the nj transit commute...that and the Ironbound smokestacks and Elizabeth roadways really selling the "heyhey I live in a semi-apocalyptic hellscape" look
Scary especially since I recently moved down the block from the bay in Brooklyn
Intersting account, great research dude
Build, build, build. That's New Jersey's state motto.
As a resident of the Meadowlands, I see frequent flooding.
This is probably a dumb question but:
Why not use a machine to suck excess water from rising sea levels into a huge container. Then clean that water using reverse osmosis or whatever and provide it back to the community in their taps and toilets etc? Or even to communities that NEED clean water, like Flint. Or sell it. Idk. Ideas.
I live in New Jersey. I get emergency channel alerts for flooding on the regular now.
So a city was built in a marsh and now people are panicking because it's getting wetter?
People have been adapting to changing topographic and weather conditions for thousands of years. We should certainly take better care of our planet, but that doesn't mean panicking over something we don't fully understand and can't control.
Yeah there’s no shot this is getting fixed. In Secaucus we just keep building new houses and outlets into the meadow lands because there’s nowhere else for anyone to build this close to NYC. Theres gonna be nowhere for the water to go.
The meadowlands are more important than most would think. Strategicly aswell.
1:17 that section of the road is going to fall into the river within a few years.
You could also "retreat" by foreseeing emergency flood planes, that you deliberately let be flooded to store the excess amount of water and diverge it from flooding more important areas.
Just placing flood walls is kinda pointless, as the water has to go somewhere, you are just moving the problem to somewhere else.
I lived in New Jersey my whole life and never experienced a single flood. Btw New Jersey is beautiful, this representation in this video is nothing like the real thing...
I grew up in North Eastern Jersey.. I'm in South Bay cali now.... Would suck seeing it underwater man..
0:50 ay drop that runescape vibe on me!
This summer has seen a lot of flooding in areas around north jersey that’s not mentioned in this video. Overdevelopment is the culprit and it just continues.
Our government told us there's no global warming is fine
There are easy solutions to infrastructure, although mother nature will always win over land and sea. Respect earth, respect people, and don't fight back nature just flow with it. 🦈🐡🌊🌊
“Video by Carlos Waters”, how perfect.
I worked on a GIS project on property use in the Kearny/Meadowlands area for USACE in the early ‘90s. Good to see that my work led to broad-based changes.😏