Denton Greenbelt Elm Fork Trinity River at Ray Roberts Dam - There are No Fish Upriver
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2024
- Fly fishing Lake Ray Roberts Dam where the Elm Fork of the Trinity River comes out of the lake. It used to be a productive place to fly fish (see my old videos listed below). Now, even with a decent release (website says 26cfs - I say more), the Elm Fork of the Trinity does not FLOW. It is simply backed up and into the flatlands where the flooding seen in Part 1 was occurring.
I guess you could call it a slow motion tragedy that just keeps on going.
I gave it my best shot with an excellent fly, but if you look at the beginning - at that conventional fisherman just sitting there, nothing happening, no bites nothing - then you know the answer without having to even ask the question. There are no fish there.
You’ll have to forgive my ranting at the morons on Reddit - Denton Reddit. But when they throw personal insults, racist, ageist and more - AT YOU - you may just feel the same way. That cesspool needs cleaning. And the misinformation was beyond the pale, from people who were supposedly educated in the environmental sciences. It is what it is - be very scared. I got out of that group as quick as I possibly could!
“Conservation, as I’ve always known it, is about taking care of natural resources and improving habitat-preventing the wasteful misuse of those resources-with the goal of ensuring there will be something left (or something even better) in the future.” - Flylab Article
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CONTACTS
- Note - Some Contacts Changing Soon
Chandler Sanford
Lead Natural Resources Specialist
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
1801 N Mill Street
Lewisville, TX 75057
Lewisville/Ray Roberts Lakes
U.S. Congressman
Michael C. Burgess
26th. Congressional District
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Colonel Kenneth N. Reed
Commander, U.S. Army Engineer Corps of Engineers
819 Taylor St (Room 3A32)
Fort Worth, Texas 76102
Michael Gange
City of Denton
Director of Environmental Services & Sustainability
michael.gange@cityofdenton.com
Robbie Merritt
Superintendent / Park Police
Ray Roberts Lake State Park Complex
940-300-4064
robbie.merritt@tpwd.texas.gov
Went here yesterday. Water was really low. Largemouth and sand bass were hitting a bit, but once night hit we put the liver on and I was catching a catfish every 5-10 min
A lot of dinks tho, and no shot at a hybrid 😂
I think a lot of fish have been dumped since the flow has been epic for many weeks! Sounds like they cut off the flow? We should be able to see the fish if that is the case! Thanks!
I believe you. I am going to go see it RIGHT NOW! Will be on the report later today.
Aren’t the basses and crappies flushed from the lake when water is released ? The blockage may prevent hybrid swimming up from Lewsville, which is the reason it’s hard to catch hybrid below the spillway.
The only fish coming out of the dam, which is what I think you are thinking, are freshwater drum and a few catfish. BUT there have been epic releases this spring there. So the math of fishing says there are probably bass and gar there now. Meanwhile, USACE releases billions of gallons and City of Denton has water restrictions. Can you say mismanagement?
Correct - hybrids come UP from Lewisville. Or they ONCE DID.
Yes so sad, I went there yesterday evening and caught only one keeper size white bass, after releasing 2900 cfs for more than one week. Apparently no improvement this year.
@@TexasflycasterI fish there from time to time but didnt know if it was legal to fish west bank of that dam.
If you dont mind how did you manage to get to the other side?
@@redfishonion7908 Walk up over and around the fenced off portion. Then you have the rocks to hop - and you will see and feel a pattern to getting down those rocks. BUT there are no fish there! No kidding. Unless they were dumped from the lake, through the pipe (not a gate!) ... the only fish I see that get dumped are freshwater drum. I have not even seen buffalo anywhere.
So there will probably be no more fish at the spillway if so that’s a shame Becouse it was my favorite spot a while ago
If you do catch a sand bass or hybrid, it will now be REAL NEWS. I wish I would be wrong about this. There are cars parked way down at HWY380 on the south side, but I think those guys are swamping in for catfish.
It is very difficult to fish below 380 with a fly rod on GB, a medium 6 ft spinning rod with 8 or 10 braid, throwing 1/8 to 1/16 white, chart, silver, 2" grubs or shad imitation is your best bet when there is no flow but
you have to get down to that deep bend about 1/4 south of 380. At the time you were making this
video, those dozens of cars the people were not catching catfish and not one person was using a fly rod. You
knew the log jam was down there but the fish were trying to drive up river, they are not going to turn back
around, if you had good insight you would have went south instead of north to the spillway knowing they
were not discharging water. Of all those dozens of people jammed in there fishing not one person was
recording the entire month.
So i must be ignorant. Or I missed something- fish were caught .25 miles south of 380? Great. That’s still 9 miles from where they were in the past. And I’d be glad to go with you and record - only about a year away from now!
@@Texasflycaster With all those cars parked along hwy 380 it was worth a try
for you to investigate. Also at the Clear Creek confluence, the Elm Fork side has
a 200 yard log jam. I do miss catching double digit hibbies on light tackle at RR
spillway but those days are done. It would take a massive undertaking to clear that river. Maybe after they shut the water off
and it dries, this summer you should take
walk and see for yourself, that way next
April, you will have a good spot to for
your long rod. If you are adventurous, launch your yak at OP, then paddle to
the mouth and you will have the place to
your self since some boats cannot make
it in. Mid to late April is best, I hope you get to see what I saw once, it was like a salmon run with all the sandies and hibbies in
that shallow water at the mouth pushing to get in. It happens every year when the trees
are just leafing. Year to year is different but
ball park is mid to late April. There is clearing where you can beach you yak and have a lot of space to sling the rod, you will have a blast.