The usual arrangement for a NES soundtrack was to use the two pulse channels for melody, the triangle channel for the bass and the noise channel for percussion/drums. The DPCM channel wasn't used. Then came SunSoft and turned this entire convention on its head. They delegated the bass to the DPCM channel, the two pulse channels for the melody (either two voices at a time, or using one track as the echo of the other one), and the noise + triangle channels were used together for the drums: the attack portion was done with the noise channel and the decay with the triangle channel, with a downwards pitch bend usually. That's why the kick drum, snare drum and the toms are so realistic (at least in the scope of NES music) By the way, the Simmons SDS-V drums (you know, with the hexagonal pads), used a very similar approach to synthesize their sound. (they had an analog sine wave generator instead of a 4 bit triangle, though)
Even Sunsoft used the DPCM channel for percussions in some games before using it for the bass line. And yes, they were one of the few japanese developers that used the triangle+noise channels for percussions, europeans used that quite a lot in their games tho.
"the attack portion was done with the noise channel and the decay with the triangle channel" in essence this makes it similar to the MT-32 and others, which use a sample for the attack portion and a subtractive synth for the rest. Obviously its a lot simpler and there's no samples but you have to think, that's crazy.
"The DPCM channel wasn't used." I don't even have much of a sense of what that means exactly but it hurts me to read it. A whole channel, capable of playing a decent-sounding tune, just ignored! Oh well, it's not like these people didn't normally crank out loads of awesome music no matter what unnecessary limitations some of them may have accepted.
Then the game starts and it gets even harder because even more kick ass music starts to play unfortunately you have to be really good to hear rest of the awesome music
@@ZatohRondohoon3227 yeah. :( i sooooo know that magic feeling he's describing, when you're chasing the vision over the curve of the horizon with a friend or colleague. that feeling has been so special to me, the camaraderie of shooting for the stars, the f*cking crazy thrill of making the tiniest bit of progress!!! a man after my own heart
This was written by Naoki Kodaka, the same composer as the Batman (NES/Genesis) soundtrack. Such incredible talent. Batman is one of my favorite NES soundtracks - up there with Bucky O'Hare, Megaman, etc.
Dude, I can't stand super hero stuff, but those 2 Batman games for NES by these guys are just stunning. Return of Joker on Genesis doesn't even look or sound HALF as good as the Nintendo version. I don't get it.
That man is Hara Nobuyuki, though he was more of a composer as far as I know. Here is the interview where it was mentioned: shmuplations.com/sunsoftmusic/
I’ve been coming back to this soundtrack ever since I played this back in the day and it still absolutely SLAPS. Stage 2 is, hands down, one of the best all-time NES songs out there.
The best IMHO. I can't think of another game I regularly played (and enjoyed) mostly because of the music. It was a great game, but the music made it soooooooo much better.
Thirty years I’ve waited to simply play this and listen to it when I wanted without battling through one of the most difficult games of my past. Goddam thank you!
It is a fucking masterpiece. I played this game in '94 ish and it stuck with me. I had the whole soundtrack recorded on MC casette. It is overtime, ultimate example that we are capable of doing great thing out of nothing. How many of the current soundtrack do you expect to remember in 20 years? yup.
I've heard many NES soundtracks, and to me, nothing touches this one. I started this in my emulator, and was shocked by the depth this music has. Heck, even other NES legends don't have this kind of depth. I'll definitely need to pick up a real copy if I ever come across it for a decent price. Sunsoft was legendary with the NES soundchip, so I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised.
TheFredster32 Did I forget to mention that? I thought this used some kind of expansion chip at first, that's why I was blown away when I found out it didn't. Only thing close was Akumajou Densetsu, which used the VRC6 chip. The FDS didn't sound all that great in my opinion. Switch Leave it to Sunsoft.
+Gender Neutral Chibi Thing YH, THIS IS AMAZING, ONE OF MY BEST, HAV U CHECKED OUT THE SILVER SURFER NES SOUNDTRACK, THE GAME IS LAME, BUT THE SOUNDTRACK IS BEYOND EPIC! DEFINATELY A CONTENTER FOR TOP SPOT ^__^ =)
Это как бы должна быть игра про Терминатора. Ток лишилась лицензии. И очень жаль. Другая контора которая выпустила Терминатора, лучше бы самоликвидировалась
Я в начале 90-х занимался ремонтом в том числе и NES - подобных приставок, китайцы их наплодили всяких немеряно тогда. У нас ещё была одновременно с этим студия кабельного ТВ. Принесли как-то приставку в ремонт вместе с картриджем с этой игрой, на нём были ещё какие-то, но малое количество и довольно технически навороченные (не из серии 999999 в 1), картридж полноразмерный и тяжёлый, я его ради интереса открыл, обнаружил кучу микросхем, из них пару аж в DIP40 корпусе. Приставку естественно починили, отдали владельцу. Игра эта впечатлила по качеству музыки настолько, что подключил магнитофон и записал саундтрек, заодно её прошёл =)
STAGE 2 THEME .... goddamn .... first verse wow , then a second verse ( are we sure we're still on nes) then the THIRD VERSE ( how is that even possible on nes ). today games sure lack this kinda theme!
fuckin 12 thread CPu, 1080Ti, 7.1 audio with external HiFi amplifier, 55'' HDR 4K display, gigabytes of ram, terabytes of storage and what? Noting to beat this childhood experience. Those guys back then were artists, they had imagination, ideas and medium that was unable to put those into reality. They made the extra mile in every aspect to be the best. This resulted in work of arts, stunning achievements in many ways. This one is pure art in music. It's like playing an opera on frying pan, 2 jars with water and some lids in the kitchen. And this guy still played goddamn Mozart.
The composer of this album is Naoki Kodaka (小高直樹). Now a professor at Daido University, a private university in Japan, he teaches music theory and computer-based music
@@JayByrd83 yeah but they werent very technically impressive. they were very simple (yet still very good). the closest thing they had to the others was the fact they used triangle percussion quite a lot. i agree that they are one of the bests, but far from #1 imo
Может это и объясняется ностальгией, но мне такой звук нравится больше чем любая современная музыка. Не маловажную роль и сама мелодичность играет, тогда реально могли в мелодию.
We picked up this game at a local flea market in '93 or '94 (it was before I had a super) for probably $5 or less. It's a definite classic and one of the few games I'm going to hold onto, even though my NES has been safely shelved for eternity. NES emulation is just too accessible to worry about cartridges at this point. I'm so glad my parents bought old niche games though. So many unsung classics I got to play back then.
When I found dirty cartridge containing this game with broken case in my friend's house in 1997 and plugged it in into my pirate Dendy console for the first time... When I heard THIS I was literally SHITING BRICKS.
i remember this game n playing it as a kid amazing story thats as good as the game play thats as good as the music thats as good as the anything about it might just need to make a poster about this game just so anyone who asks will have to play thru it just to understand thanks for posting!!
0:55 I bet this bootleg Terminator tune was there even before they lost the license. Because to my knowledge, Sunsoft never used actual movie themes in any of their licensed games. They always compose original music that sound similar at best.
This is true, and intriguing! I guess in other games like Batman or Gremlins 2 they only had the rights to use the characters and names, it's not uncommon for the soundtrack of a movie to have its own rights, independently from the movie. Maybe this time they were allowed to play with the Terminator theme...
This game may have had one of the longest main menu themes in a pure action game predating the first Touhou games, and in a time and on a system where pure action games were lucky to have looping main menu themes at all!
А чё? Новых комментов нет? Так я подтверждаю! Божественно! Ничего прекраснее в жизни не слышал. Ну может за исключением Ninja Gaiden 4-2 и Kage ending! А! Конечно Batman от Сансофт!
The usual arrangement for a NES soundtrack was to use the two pulse channels for melody, the triangle channel for the bass and the noise channel for percussion/drums. The DPCM channel wasn't used. Then came SunSoft and turned this entire convention on its head. They delegated the bass to the DPCM channel, the two pulse channels for the melody (either two voices at a time, or using one track as the echo of the other one), and the noise + triangle channels were used together for the drums: the attack portion was done with the noise channel and the decay with the triangle channel, with a downwards pitch bend usually. That's why the kick drum, snare drum and the toms are so realistic (at least in the scope of NES music) By the way, the Simmons SDS-V drums (you know, with the hexagonal pads), used a very similar approach to synthesize their sound. (they had an analog sine wave generator instead of a 4 bit triangle, though)
using the triangle for drums was used a lot in european nes games (smurfs, asterix ….) but yes for japanese only sunsoft did
Even Sunsoft used the DPCM channel for percussions in some games before using it for the bass line. And yes, they were one of the few japanese developers that used the triangle+noise channels for percussions, europeans used that quite a lot in their games tho.
"the attack portion was done with the noise channel and the decay with the triangle channel"
in essence this makes it similar to the MT-32 and others, which use a sample for the attack portion and a subtractive synth for the rest.
Obviously its a lot simpler and there's no samples but you have to think, that's crazy.
AttilaSVK incredible observations
"The DPCM channel wasn't used." I don't even have much of a sense of what that means exactly but it hurts me to read it. A whole channel, capable of playing a decent-sounding tune, just ignored! Oh well, it's not like these people didn't normally crank out loads of awesome music no matter what unnecessary limitations some of them may have accepted.
The hardest part of the game is getting past the title screen. IT'S AWESOME
Especially since it loops forever. I can't imagine why put such amazing music in the main menu i mean am i even supposed to press start?
Then the game starts and it gets even harder because even more kick ass music starts to play
unfortunately you have to be really good to hear rest of the awesome music
Yes Yes Yes Yes YES!
@@LegoGBlok I remember wanting to get better just to hear more of the songs.
What about the entire rest of the game? Hard as balls man
What A Great Man. :(
@@ZatohRondohoon3227 yeah. :( i sooooo know that magic feeling he's describing, when you're chasing the vision over the curve of the horizon with a friend or colleague. that feeling has been so special to me, the camaraderie of shooting for the stars, the f*cking crazy thrill of making the tiniest bit of progress!!!
a man after my own heart
@@jvince001 God Never Makes Such Men, Anymore. :(
Humble Salute To That Man. A Heartfelt Thanks To Him, For Making Our Childhood A Beautiful One. ❤️
This was written by Naoki Kodaka, the same composer as the Batman (NES/Genesis) soundtrack. Such incredible talent. Batman is one of my favorite NES soundtracks - up there with Bucky O'Hare, Megaman, etc.
That makes sense, given the musical comparisons between the two games.
He also did Ufouria and Blaster Master, both total bangers.
The Batman game OST is 🔥
He teaches his craft @ an university now!
Dude, I can't stand super hero stuff, but those 2 Batman games for NES by these guys are just stunning. Return of Joker on Genesis doesn't even look or sound HALF as good as the Nintendo version. I don't get it.
What a tragic story we have behind this... the person who programmed the audio driver died many years ago due to sudden illness. R.I.P.
*****
This was said in an interview with Naoki Kodaka I believe.
za909returns Whoever he or she was, bless their soul.
It's great to see his work lives on though. A lot of people use the sound pack for compositions in Famitracker. :)
That man is Hara Nobuyuki, though he was more of a composer as far as I know.
Here is the interview where it was mentioned:
shmuplations.com/sunsoftmusic/
Audio Driver? What you guys talking about?
As a Mega Man superfan I can say this is the greatest NES soundtrack ever made
You simply MUST check out NES Bucky O'Hare then. It and this i am undecided between which is the best
You should have said "I can say this is the greatest Mega Man soundtrack ever made!"
I’ve been coming back to this soundtrack ever since I played this back in the day and it still absolutely SLAPS. Stage 2 is, hands down, one of the best all-time NES songs out there.
Feels evocative of X Japan.
Its really one of the best NES game soundtracks.
The best IMHO. I can't think of another game I regularly played (and enjoyed) mostly because of the music. It was a great game, but the music made it soooooooo much better.
@@heavyq I feel the same about the music in Mega Man 2. It really pushed the game to a higher level, which was great already.
@@TheAlphaOmegaX3 Megaman 2's soundtrack is overrated
@@doodledangernoodle2517 Personal opinion bud. It's my favorite in the series.
@@TheAlphaOmegaX3 okay
Starts off with that kick-ass title theme and then BAM stage 1 is even more amazing!!
+Crunch Foe IKR
hi
27 years and it's still outstanding. Timeless, priceless, wonderful masterpiece.
Now its 2024
I love how they added a game as a bonus to this album ;)
@The Agnostic Philosopher Now you're talking! Are you listening Limited Run Games?!
@The Agnostic Philosopher synth doesn't sound the best on vinyl.
Sunsoft, we all miss you...
They are still here makin' great games. Try Blaster Master Zero on Switch or 3DS.
lmao Inti Creates is not Sunsoft
@@Shinespark that is not Sunsoft... Sunsoft still exists as a publisher in Japan, they make visual novels and dating games now...
their latest game is a hoarder house clean up game... i think its on steam
FC上最好的BGM！！！聽到這個眼淚都下來了！！！感謝放送！！！！！！
Definitely a very powerful sound track. I remember playing this a lot when I was 10.
*Timestamps For Quick Access:*
0:01 : *Prologue*
1:09 : *Title*
3:54 : *Stage 1 & 5*
5:54 : *Stage 2*
12:55 : *Stage 3*
14:46 : *Stage 4*
16:38 : *Boss Battle*
18:07 : *Fanfare 1*
18:11 : *Fanfare 2*
18:19 : *Fanfare 3*
18:24 : *Stage Clear*
18:30 : *Ending*
You're doing mobile users a good favor.
@@DumDoDoor yes, you can Say :)
One of the best soundtracks ever. I have it recorded on cassette tape. Hats down. They knew how to create music back then.
Thirty years I’ve waited to simply play this and listen to it when I wanted without battling through one of the most difficult games of my past.
Goddam thank you!
ファミコン後期のサンソフトは個人的に国内最強メーカーだったと思ってる
Stage 2 Song was extended because it kicks that much ass
18:07: Stage Failed
18:11: Game Over
18:19: Stage Start
1:10: Title Theme
16:38: Boss Xadx
18:24: Stage Clear
18:30: Ending
Taking That Journey every time I hear this! An amazing composure.
Damn, this soundtrack is so cool. I can't stop listening!
me too!! :D
It is a fucking masterpiece. I played this game in '94 ish and it stuck with me. I had the whole soundtrack recorded on MC casette. It is overtime, ultimate example that we are capable of doing great thing out of nothing. How many of the current soundtrack do you expect to remember in 20 years? yup.
I'm glad I grew up on the NES
This soundtrack is out of this world
yes, i was totally shocked when i first played this game at the age of 12, 27 years ago.
This was one of the most well put together games on NES. It truly pushed the hardware to the limit. Sunsoft, they don't make em like they used to!
This is a MASTERPIECE of soundtrack!!
I've heard many NES soundtracks, and to me, nothing touches this one. I started this in my emulator, and was shocked by the depth this music has. Heck, even other NES legends don't have this kind of depth. I'll definitely need to pick up a real copy if I ever come across it for a decent price.
Sunsoft was legendary with the NES soundchip, so I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised.
Gender Neutral Chibi Thing Not only that, but there were no expansions used, such as FDS or VRC6. They were just damn good at creating DPCM files.
Bass samples in DPCM and kick drums in triangle channel. Dang it, this soundtrack kicks all sorts of asses
TheFredster32 Did I forget to mention that? I thought this used some kind of expansion chip at first, that's why I was blown away when I found out it didn't. Only thing close was Akumajou Densetsu, which used the VRC6 chip. The FDS didn't sound all that great in my opinion.
Switch Leave it to Sunsoft.
+Gender Neutral Chibi Thing YH, THIS IS AMAZING, ONE OF MY BEST, HAV U CHECKED OUT THE SILVER SURFER NES SOUNDTRACK, THE GAME IS LAME, BUT THE SOUNDTRACK IS BEYOND EPIC! DEFINATELY A CONTENTER FOR TOP SPOT ^__^
=)
SHINBAXTER ... Calm down.
Всегда любил эту игру, одно музыкальное сопровождение чего стоит - все музыкальные темы пробивают до "гусиной кожи" и сам сюжет отличный!!!!!
Это как бы должна быть игра про Терминатора. Ток лишилась лицензии. И очень жаль. Другая контора которая выпустила Терминатора, лучше бы самоликвидировалась
Я в начале 90-х занимался ремонтом в том числе и NES - подобных приставок, китайцы их наплодили всяких немеряно тогда. У нас ещё была одновременно с этим студия кабельного ТВ. Принесли как-то приставку в ремонт вместе с картриджем с этой игрой, на нём были ещё какие-то, но малое количество и довольно технически навороченные (не из серии 999999 в 1), картридж полноразмерный и тяжёлый, я его ради интереса открыл, обнаружил кучу микросхем, из них пару аж в DIP40 корпусе. Приставку естественно починили, отдали владельцу. Игра эта впечатлила по качеству музыки настолько, что подключил магнитофон и записал саундтрек, заодно её прошёл =)
Классная музыка, как они умудрились сделать такой классный саундтрек из такой приставки
This soundtrack is giving me a huge eargasm.
@Kihlibarn Muchabari Sunsoft is just a huge definition of Eargasm 😎😁
Cant stop listening this masterpeace
I'm still in love with how long Stage 2's theme is. 3 minute-long 'verses' with some 'chorus'-like sections between them.
It's definitely an outlier for most NES music, and I think that makes it all the more distinctive :)
The best Terminator BGM that never was; absolute fury!
5:54 ☝️
拡張チップつんでないのにこの音楽は凄いよね。あとファミコン後期のサン電子は神
Cuando necesito recargar energías escucho esta obra maestra y quedó como nuevo!!
this groundbreaking chiptune is pretty much the sole reason I kept playing this game
Amazing OST. The boss battle theme in this game always felt so menacing and intense.
One of the most underrated games of the NES. Great music and gameplay was fun. It always got hard for me starting stage 3.. awww the memories
STAGE 2 THEME .... goddamn .... first verse wow , then a second verse ( are we sure we're still on nes) then the THIRD VERSE ( how is that even possible on nes ). today games sure lack this kinda theme!
fuckin 12 thread CPu, 1080Ti, 7.1 audio with external HiFi amplifier, 55'' HDR 4K display, gigabytes of ram, terabytes of storage and what? Noting to beat this childhood experience.
Those guys back then were artists, they had imagination, ideas and medium that was unable to put those into reality. They made the extra mile in every aspect to be the best. This resulted in work of arts, stunning achievements in many ways. This one is pure art in music. It's like playing an opera on frying pan, 2 jars with water and some lids in the kitchen. And this guy still played goddamn Mozart.
The composer of this album is Naoki Kodaka (小高直樹). Now a professor at Daido University, a private university in Japan, he teaches music theory and computer-based music
Konami & Sunsoft games had consistently great music throughout the NES era.
and Natsume
Follin brothers too.
@@matthewmiguel8108 They're music producers.
You can't forget Capcom. They probably had some of the best soundtracks ever.
@@JayByrd83 yeah but they werent very technically impressive. they were very simple (yet still very good). the closest thing they had to the others was the fact they used triangle percussion quite a lot. i agree that they are one of the bests, but far from #1 imo
Godamn Sunsoft! How can you make so much great game music?!
+Dumi the Sandwich you mean DPCM / .dmc
wat no
we not talking aboot samples
we talkin aboot the fukin great music that these maniacs @ sunsoft plz'ed our ears with.
Yeah ik i just felt like deliberately pissing you off XD
dude this is amazing
Может это и объясняется ностальгией, но мне такой звук нравится больше чем любая современная музыка. Не маловажную роль и сама мелодичность играет, тогда реально могли в мелодию.
ファミコンを超本気にさせれば
ここまで出来るのか……。
さすがサン電子…、只者じゃないな!
We picked up this game at a local flea market in '93 or '94 (it was before I had a super) for probably $5 or less. It's a definite classic and one of the few games I'm going to hold onto, even though my NES has been safely shelved for eternity. NES emulation is just too accessible to worry about cartridges at this point. I'm so glad my parents bought old niche games though. So many unsung classics I got to play back then.
I thought at first when the title theme came, that it was a stage theme. Super rad!
Божественно!!!!!
This must be one of the best NES sound tracks. Sounds as good as many an SNES sound track.
The best Terminator 1 music on NES !
We'll not speak of that abomination...
Sunsoft Bass for the win!
Fuck, I love that fat DPCM bass
Man I miss the nes era and its amazing soundtracks. very few artist still do songs that are retro and even fewer make killertracks.
Stage 2 theme would be a BLAST on Commodore's SID chip.
I love that they snuck the Blaster master frog into the fanfare 2
Intro = Total Body Shock / Goosebumps.
Parece o Burzum
This game gets a lot of praise, so I tried it out. I had no idea the music was this good. I was so impressed I stopped playing just so I could listen.
Given the limitations that they had to work with, Sunsoft always had really good music for their NES games.
best soundtrack of all time! you know it's true
Very nice throughout.
Awesome Stage 3!
End tune almost made me cry.
We had a rich cousin who blessed us with this cartridge. One of my favorite games in the very early 90s.
When I found dirty cartridge containing this game with broken case in my friend's house in 1997 and plugged it in into my pirate Dendy console for the first time... When I heard THIS I was literally SHITING BRICKS.
Between this sound track and mega Man 2 tracks, I could rock on for hours.
Одни из лучших мелодий на денди
卯９６。h９
The title theme is so GOATed. They didnt need to go this hard but I’m glad they did
God-tier soundtrack
Cheer to Naoki Kodaka and friends!
шедевральная игра, шедевральная музыка!
i remember this game n playing it as a kid amazing story thats as good as the game play thats as good as the music thats as good as the anything about it might just need to make a poster about this game just so anyone who asks will have to play thru it just to understand thanks for posting!!
Absolute banger
This title screen has IPA! Wow!
I love how long this plays the stage 2 theme lol. Not undeserved though.
Pretty sure every track loops twice
Stage 2 is so... amazing.
Stage two absolutely SLAPS
0:55 I bet this bootleg Terminator tune was there even before they lost the license. Because to my knowledge, Sunsoft never used actual movie themes in any of their licensed games. They always compose original music that sound similar at best.
This is true, and intriguing! I guess in other games like Batman or Gremlins 2 they only had the rights to use the characters and names, it's not uncommon for the soundtrack of a movie to have its own rights, independently from the movie.
Maybe this time they were allowed to play with the Terminator theme...
The game's soundtrack was mostly composed by Naoki Kodaka.
Great soundtrack. Great upload.
Naoki Kodaka ♥
One of greatest videogame soundtrack ever ! Naoki Kodoka at his best !
ラフ ワールドは当初ターミネーターのゲームとして開発されていて広告も打っていたのだが、版権が取れずにオリジナルのゲームとして作り直されたとか。
Im just browsing through these OSTs from games ive never played.
But thats okay, my brain just makes up its own stages according to the beat!
I remember getting this game back in the late 80's with gauntlet 2.
hi
6:11 "Talk to me boy"
This game may have had one of the longest main menu themes in a pure action game predating the first Touhou games, and in a time and on a system where pure action games were lucky to have looping main menu themes at all!
Cosprei approved song. Thumbs up.
Damn. I've never heard of this game, but the soundtrack is great!
amo este soundtrack
hi
Eu gosto do prologo
Приятно слушать Sunsoft музыку и Цоя
Absolutely R O C K I N
Man does this bops.
Stage 4 was starting to sound like Heart of Fire for a couple seconds.
riskvideos i'm glad i'm not the only one who hears it, haha
in fact, this track reminds me " dont sleep until night" from haunted castle!
Lucas de Medeiros Ribeiro
that's what he's talking about. don't wait until night is the first section of heart of fire from aria of sorrow
+Lucas de Medeiros Ribeiro Wait*
hi
А чё? Новых комментов нет? Так я подтверждаю! Божественно! Ничего прекраснее в жизни не слышал. Ну может за исключением Ninja Gaiden 4-2 и Kage ending! А! Конечно Batman от Сансофт!
２声しかない矩形波でコーラスやディレイまで再現する打ち込み、ノイズと三角波で作る重いドラム、ＰＣＭをベースに割り当てるアイディアと技術、どれもがすごい！！
それと3:54のイントロ、いくつ音鳴ってるの！？
拡張音源なしとは信じがたいですねえ...
DAMN GOOD
The prologue sounds like a horrifying serial murderer is in your house.
The title sounds like fucking pokemon music.
You’re kinda right on the prologue thing since this was originally supposed to be a terminator game.
Did you know this soundtrack came with a free video game?
i didn't
34 years later and this game still kicks ass. By the way at the end of the year ill be turning 34 too. We are all Aging like fine Wine.