Kifayah an Nabih Syarah at Tanbih from Ibn ar Rifah states that Imam Shafii says that "whoever considers istawa to be rise above or sit is a kufr and you cannot pray behind him" However giving human attributes to Allah is kufr according to Imam Ahmad bin Hambal, when he says that "whoever says Allah is a body but different than other bodies is a kufr". [Tasyniful Masami chapter 3 page 684]
2 people greater than shafi'i and Ahmad said Allah rose over the throne as is documented in sahih al bukhari and tafseer at tabari That Abul Aaliyah ar-rayahi said 《استوا》اي ارتفع And Mujahid said: 《استوا》اي علا على العرش Thus either the 2 sayings of yours have a context or they are inauthentic
1. Who created everything? ALLAH 2. Who created light and darkness, time and space, directions, such as above and below? ALLAH 3. So ALLAH existed before all the creations, before light and darkness, before places and before above and below. Allah existed without a place, without directions! Simple: ALLAH DOES NOT NEED ANY SINGLE CREATION TO EXIST. EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD IS IN NEED OF ALLAH TO EXIST.
@@M1GarandPing Sheikh Omar has clarified this: th-cam.com/video/_8kBUFhmblw/w-d-xo.html "Ar-rahman 'alal arsy istawa" means Allah has power over the Arsy. He has control over the greatest creation. That verse does NOT literally mean "he 'rose' above the throne". Because "rising" is an action/attribute of a creation & the words "Allah rising" contradicts with the verse "Allah does not resemble his creations" The quran doesn't not contradict, humans do. So be careful in interpreting a verse from the quran as it was revealed in Arabic & in Arabic, one word can bring 15 meanings. In the verse "Ar-rahman 'alal arsy istawa" the word "istiwa" has 15 meanings. The meaning that is appropriate to be used for "istiwa" when it comes to Allah is that "Allah has power over the Arsy". Hope Allah leads you & the others who watches this to the right path
Fathi may allah guide me... ya habibi... allah revealed the qur'an in arabic. arabs understand their own language. when allah says he is with us what does it mean? yes of course allah is with us. what does "with" mean? in the video u shared, that man said that if u interpret it literally it means he is with u physically... thats wrong. "with" is a word that doesnt imply physical closeness. with can mean support. if u tell me ur struggling and i say im with u it doesnt mean i have to be beside u. that video used a bad example. allah said about himself that he is above. he said that he is "fis-sama" he said that he istawa above the arsh. he said the angels fear there lord above them using the word "fauqa" he said the good words ascend to him. he said he raised jesus to himself. he said he sent down the qur'an. the prophets night of ascension. look at all these different wordings allah used. if u say above only means in authority then it wouldnt make sense that allah raised jesus to himself... are u saying he made jesus have the same level of authority as Himself? obviously not. allah hears... we also hear.. does this mean allah is like the creation? no it doesnt. then will u deny that allah hears to make it unlike the creation? we will see allah in paradise inshaAllah according to the hadith... are u saying that yhe people of jannah will not see allah? but the messenger of allah said that the people of jannah would see allah. allah is unlike the creation. and allah is above the throne. and allah hears. and allah sees. and allah is above his throne. allah is above the skies. praise be to allah the most high. allah being above does not contradict the statement of allah being unlike his creation. and there is no compulsion in religion. may allah guide me and guide u.
Fathi also that video isnt sheikh omar. why did u say sheikh omar clarified it then post a video of someone else? were u unaware or did u try to deceive me?
@@M1GarandPing Deceiving is haram. I would never do that. It really sounded like Sheikh Omar. His voice sounds the same. If it isn't Sheikh Omar then who is it ?
Abdullah bin 'Amr narrated that the Messenger of Allah said: "The merciful are shown mercy by Ar-Rahman. Be merciful on the earth, and you will be shown mercy from Who is above the heavens. The womb is named after Ar-Rahman, so whoever connects it, Allah connects him, and whoever severs it, Allah severs him." حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ أَبِي عُمَرَ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ دِينَارٍ، عَنْ أَبِي قَابُوسَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَمْرٍو، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " الرَّاحِمُونَ يَرْحَمُهُمُ الرَّحْمَنُ ارْحَمُوا مَنْ فِي الأَرْضِ يَرْحَمْكُمْ مَنْ فِي السَّمَاءِ الرَّحِمُ شُجْنَةٌ مِنَ الرَّحْمَنِ فَمَنْ وَصَلَهَا وَصَلَهُ اللَّهُ وَمَنْ قَطَعَهَا قَطَعَهُ اللَّهُ " . قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيحٌ .
Allah also said" nahnu akrabu ilayhi min hablil warid" Allah described himself how near he is, "he is even near than your jugular vein", space, time and direction cannot point where he is, because he covers space, time and direction, he covers space as he said "wa huwa maakum ayna maa kuntom" wherever you are he is there" he covers time as well when he said in one of hadith qudse " my slave abuse me, for wasting the time, because the time is me" you can search for it because i am not sure the exact sentence of it, he also covers direction he said "pa aynama tuwallu pathamma wajhullah" wherever direction you turn there will be the face of Allah" all of this explain where is Allah, but what is only missing for a muslim is to prove it otherwise he cannot testify or bear witness for the existence Allah as the only one God, ashadu an la ilaha illa allah, you cant be a witness base on hearsay you have to prove it, and maybe for you its sounds crazy, otherwise you will be blind by faith as Allah says "wamankana pi hajihi ahmah pa huwa pil akhirati ahmah waadallu sabila" whoever is blind in this world will be blind in the hereafter, and he is in the wrong way.
As Imam Maalik said himself: “Al-lstawaa is Known, and its how is unknown, to have faith in it is obligatory, and to question it is an innovation.” (Quoted in AI-Asmaa was Sifaat’ Page 516)
The qaul mentioned of imam malik is fabricated. The actual qual which is mentioned fathul bari and it translatea to "the merciful did istiwa as he as mentioned but to ask how? The how about it is not allowed
Aqidah is simple. However, people make things complicated and say things such Allah doesn't exist because Allah created existance. Or, Allah is nothing because he created things. It is very simple to stick on th Quran & Sunnah and believe that Allah is above the heaven.
Thats the Aqidah of Aristotle and the greek Philosphers, which the Ashaira and the mutakalimen adopted. Their Salaf is the Greeks while our are Salaf al Sahlih
your right, Aqeedah is simple. in Sahih al-Bukhariyy, the Prophet (SAW) said: He existed before the Throne, heavens, place, time, direction and does not change as stated by Imam at-Tahawiyy (RA) Abu Jafar at-Tahawiyy (RA) stated in Al-Aqidah at-Tahawiyyah (Point 13) "He has always existed having His Attributes Eternally before creating the creation. Bringing creation into existence did not add anything to His Attributes that did not exist in Eternity. As He was, having His Attributes, in Eternity, so He will remain Everlastingly." (Point 38) "He (Allah) is beyond having limits placed on Him, or being restricted, or having parts or limbs. Nor is he contained by the six directions like ALL THE CREATED THINGS"
Quoting true statements in pursuit of falsehood likening Allah to the Creation with a specific literal meaning by putting Allah in a direction and a place this is the creed of salafi/wahabi Quasi sect
The believe of ahlou sounnah is Allah exists without a place because Allah existed and there was no place and after creating the place Allah don't change Allah exists without a place. Who believe Allah is in a place is not a muslim because Allah say in the Coran layca kamithlihi chay.
Imam Abu Hanifah, who is one of the authorities of as-Salaf, said in his book Al-Fiqh al-Absat: “Allah existed eternally and there was no place. He existed before creating the creation. He existed, and there was no place, creation, or thing; and He is the Creator of everything.” Imam Abu Hanifah said in his book, al-Wasiyyah: “.. and He is the Preserver of al-arsh and other than al-arsh, without needing it, for had He been in need, He would not have the power to create the world and to manage and preserve it. Moreover, had He been in a place needing to sit and rest , before creating al-arsh, where was Allah?” O Allah, you are the First, there is nothing before you. You are the Last, there is nothing after you. You are the Manifest, there is nothing above you. You are the Hidden, there is nothing beyond you. Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2713
That's like saying why did Allah create the earth in x amount of days He does what ever he wills And there is nothing like him and nothing comparable to him And he is not in need of anything The salaf the sahabi made it clear that you affirm whatever is in the Quran the apparent meaning unless there is proof otherwise from the salaf to give it a different meaning Whatever Allah says bout himself we believe in it who are we to be able to understand the creator when we cannot even understand how the creation how the earth works how our body functions it's complexity The matter is clear cut numerous ayahs and sahih Hadith affirming the meaning is known as the apparent May Allah guide us all
@@donutman6239 First of all it says He is above, it is not saying that He is sitting. Secondly, It amazes me that where He wants us to stop, everyone stops there. Our imaginations try to tell us it might be like this or like that, but it not more than a prediction. We will or the hardworking good believers will know the truth about Him when enter the heaven and being invited to see Him. And another thing amazes me is together with all other things that He tests us, knowing about Him to a limited level makes a lot of sense 🤩
So, what this guy is saying all of these about Allah, and Allah created this special throne and never ones sit on it? No Islam can answer this question because Allah simply never exist. The Holy Bible states very clearly: Ezekial 1:26-27 the Son of man sits on his thrown in heaven. The Son of man who exist from everlasting to everlasting as God, the Word, the Creator and in the Flesh, John 1:1 and the Son of man sit on his throne in his glorious power Matt. 24:31. God-man that only Christian has the wisdom to understand, none else can comprehand. Usually when you create or make something you then to use it, touch it and eventually let people know that it is useful. In this case Allah found his throne to be unuseful so he hover above it forever and ever. Nice. There are people out there believe these lies.
In the Arab Christian bibles they use the word Allah. And they had Christianity long before it reached Europe. Worship the creator and not the creation.
@@muhammadseyab9032 yes a contradiction, that's because he has no understand about aqida. Allah does not change because his perfect, and so the aya Allah raised above the throne. Has a meaning but not the literal meaning, one accepted meaning by the scholars of Islam is Allah has power and control over everything he has created, and not a place for himself as Allah is not in need of anything.
@@James-qx5gx could aqeedah be affected by some translations or trying to describe Allah and the message in English, especially if you don’t have the gift or authority to choose the correct English words to describe such a grand and magnificent message?
@@James-qx5gx No thats not a controdiction Allah is above the Thron in literaly meaning but he is above everything not just the Thron. He is not kept into one place.thats the wahhabi aqidah
![The Throne Of Allah [SWT]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gd9fW-y4J-Q/mqdefault.jpg)
Kifayah an Nabih Syarah at Tanbih from Ibn ar Rifah states that Imam Shafii says that "whoever considers istawa to be rise above or sit is a kufr and you cannot pray behind him"
However giving human attributes to Allah is kufr according to Imam Ahmad bin Hambal, when he says that "whoever says Allah is a body but different than other bodies is a kufr". [Tasyniful Masami chapter 3 page 684]
2 people greater than shafi'i and Ahmad said Allah rose over the throne as is documented in sahih al bukhari and tafseer at tabari
That Abul Aaliyah ar-rayahi said
《استوا》اي ارتفع
And Mujahid said:
《استوا》اي علا على العرش
Thus either the 2 sayings of yours have a context or they are inauthentic
@@Ibrahim.l20first isn’t authentic second is not a problem with us as we don’t claim Allah is a body
And how does he state shafi says this? Show the isnaad
@@Ibrahim.l20fake hadiths no chains
@@athari007 they're both authentic and even if they aren't they're what tabari chose.
I love my Lord,Allah the most..
1. Who created everything?
ALLAH
2. Who created light and darkness, time and space, directions, such as above and below?
ALLAH
3. So ALLAH existed before all the creations, before light and darkness, before places and before above and below. Allah existed without a place, without directions!
Simple: ALLAH DOES NOT NEED ANY SINGLE CREATION TO EXIST.
EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD IS IN NEED OF ALLAH TO EXIST.
Allah said he is above . Allah's words take precedent over our logic.
@@M1GarandPing Sheikh Omar has clarified this: th-cam.com/video/_8kBUFhmblw/w-d-xo.html
"Ar-rahman 'alal arsy istawa" means Allah has power over the Arsy. He has control over the greatest creation. That verse does NOT literally mean "he 'rose' above the throne". Because "rising" is an action/attribute of a creation & the words "Allah rising" contradicts with the verse "Allah does not resemble his creations"
The quran doesn't not contradict, humans do. So be careful in interpreting a verse from the quran as it was revealed in Arabic & in Arabic, one word can bring 15 meanings. In the verse "Ar-rahman 'alal arsy istawa" the word "istiwa" has 15 meanings. The meaning that is appropriate to be used for "istiwa" when it comes to Allah is that "Allah has power over the Arsy".
Hope Allah leads you & the others who watches this to the right path
Fathi may allah guide me... ya habibi... allah revealed the qur'an in arabic. arabs understand their own language.
when allah says he is with us what does it mean? yes of course allah is with us. what does "with" mean? in the video u shared, that man said that if u interpret it literally it means he is with u physically... thats wrong. "with" is a word that doesnt imply physical closeness. with can mean support. if u tell me ur struggling and i say im with u it doesnt mean i have to be beside u. that video used a bad example.
allah said about himself that he is above.
he said that he is "fis-sama"
he said that he istawa above the arsh.
he said the angels fear there lord above them using the word "fauqa"
he said the good words ascend to him.
he said he raised jesus to himself.
he said he sent down the qur'an.
the prophets night of ascension.
look at all these different wordings allah used.
if u say above only means in authority then it wouldnt make sense that allah raised jesus to himself... are u saying he made jesus have the same level of authority as Himself? obviously not.
allah hears... we also hear.. does this mean allah is like the creation? no it doesnt. then will u deny that allah hears to make it unlike the creation?
we will see allah in paradise inshaAllah according to the hadith... are u saying that yhe people of jannah will not see allah? but the messenger of allah said that the people of jannah would see allah.
allah is unlike the creation. and allah is above the throne. and allah hears. and allah sees. and allah is above his throne. allah is above the skies. praise be to allah the most high.
allah being above does not contradict the statement of allah being unlike his creation.
and there is no compulsion in religion. may allah guide me and guide u.
Fathi also that video isnt sheikh omar. why did u say sheikh omar clarified it then post a video of someone else? were u unaware or did u try to deceive me?
@@M1GarandPing Deceiving is haram. I would never do that. It really sounded like Sheikh Omar. His voice sounds the same. If it isn't Sheikh Omar then who is it ?
Omar thank you for sharing your wisdom and research. You’re on point. Very inspiring.
His mercy is Greater than anger . Swadaka LLahu-Al- Adhiim .
Ammar Akbar that hadith means that the matters Allah approves of, far exceed in number those He does not
@@frontlinedefence5262 it can also mean that Allah is lenient and loving when it comes to His servants.
Abdullah bin 'Amr narrated that the Messenger of Allah said:
"The merciful are shown mercy by Ar-Rahman. Be merciful on the earth, and you will be shown mercy from Who is above the heavens. The womb is named after Ar-Rahman, so whoever connects it, Allah connects him, and whoever severs it, Allah severs him."
حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ أَبِي عُمَرَ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ دِينَارٍ، عَنْ أَبِي قَابُوسَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَمْرٍو، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " الرَّاحِمُونَ يَرْحَمُهُمُ الرَّحْمَنُ ارْحَمُوا مَنْ فِي الأَرْضِ يَرْحَمْكُمْ مَنْ فِي السَّمَاءِ الرَّحِمُ شُجْنَةٌ مِنَ الرَّحْمَنِ فَمَنْ وَصَلَهَا وَصَلَهُ اللَّهُ وَمَنْ قَطَعَهَا قَطَعَهُ اللَّهُ " . قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيحٌ .
Allah knows the Best !
O Allah we are insignificant, forgive us and guide us to the right path
May allah reward and bless you bro
Masha-Allah
His style of speech and voice is very captivating.
Allah also said" nahnu akrabu ilayhi min hablil warid" Allah described himself how near he is, "he is even near than your jugular vein", space, time and direction cannot point where he is, because he covers space, time and direction, he covers space as he said "wa huwa maakum ayna maa kuntom" wherever you are he is there" he covers time as well when he said in one of hadith qudse " my slave abuse me, for wasting the time, because the time is me" you can search for it because i am not sure the exact sentence of it, he also covers direction he said "pa aynama tuwallu pathamma wajhullah" wherever direction you turn there will be the face of Allah" all of this explain where is Allah, but what is only missing for a muslim is to prove it otherwise he cannot testify or bear witness for the existence Allah as the only one God, ashadu an la ilaha illa allah, you cant be a witness base on hearsay you have to prove it, and maybe for you its sounds crazy, otherwise you will be blind by faith as Allah says "wamankana pi hajihi ahmah pa huwa pil akhirati ahmah waadallu sabila" whoever is blind in this world will be blind in the hereafter, and he is in the wrong way.
A amintum man fis sama'i ay yakhsifa bikumul arda fa itha hiya tamur?
Did Imaam Malik understand the Arabic word “istiwa’” as how this man has translated it ie. to mean “rose”?
As Imam Maalik said himself: “Al-lstawaa is Known, and its how is unknown, to have faith in it is obligatory, and to question it is an innovation.” (Quoted in AI-Asmaa was Sifaat’ Page 516)
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Allah is the Rabb of the Arsh not the Sitter on the Thron.
@@kingbrolykingofallsayains3354 He is the Lord of the Arsh no doubt, but He is also above it.
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That not possible . Allah is not reincarnated in his creation.
@@kingbrolykingofallsayains3354 Allah is not IN His Creation, but ABOVE it.
The qaul mentioned of imam malik is fabricated. The actual qual which is mentioned fathul bari and it translatea to "the merciful did istiwa as he as mentioned but to ask how? The how about it is not allowed
The Most High , The Tremendous.
Aqidah is simple. However, people make things complicated and say things such Allah doesn't exist because Allah created existance. Or, Allah is nothing because he created things.
It is very simple to stick on th Quran & Sunnah and believe that Allah is above the heaven.
If Allah Doesn't Exist How Do EXIST the Things??????
Thats the Aqidah of Aristotle and the greek Philosphers, which the Ashaira and the mutakalimen adopted. Their Salaf is the Greeks while our are Salaf al Sahlih
your right, Aqeedah is simple.
in Sahih al-Bukhariyy, the Prophet (SAW) said:
He existed before the Throne, heavens, place, time, direction and does not change as stated by Imam at-Tahawiyy (RA)
Abu Jafar at-Tahawiyy (RA) stated in Al-Aqidah at-Tahawiyyah (Point 13)
"He has always existed having His Attributes Eternally before creating the creation. Bringing creation into existence did not add anything to His Attributes that did not exist in Eternity. As He was, having His Attributes, in Eternity, so He will remain Everlastingly."
(Point 38)
"He (Allah) is beyond having limits placed on Him, or being restricted, or having parts or limbs. Nor is he contained by the six directions like ALL THE CREATED THINGS"
zTeo Allah Exists without a place and does not change. Very simple.
Ibn Jamac if ashari are Greek according to you does that include salahuddin al ayubi?
ALLAH IS THE GREATEST.
Quoting true statements in pursuit of falsehood likening Allah to the Creation with a specific literal meaning by putting Allah in a direction and a place this is the creed of salafi/wahabi Quasi sect
So Allah said he is above the throne but you say hes not. Ok.
ALLAHU AKBAR
Allahu Akbar
The believe of ahlou sounnah is Allah exists without a place because Allah existed and there was no place and after creating the place Allah don't change Allah exists without a place.
Who believe Allah is in a place is not a muslim because Allah say in the Coran layca kamithlihi chay.
most sayisfying answer😊alhamdhullilah
Imam Abu Hanifah, who is one of the authorities of as-Salaf, said in his book Al-Fiqh al-Absat:
“Allah existed eternally and there was no place. He existed before creating the creation. He existed, and there was no place, creation, or thing; and He is the Creator of everything.”
Imam Abu Hanifah said in his book, al-Wasiyyah:
“.. and He is the Preserver of al-arsh and other than al-arsh, without needing it, for had He been in need, He would not have the power to create the world and to manage and preserve it. Moreover, had He been in a place needing to sit and rest , before creating al-arsh, where was Allah?”
O Allah, you are the First, there is nothing before you. You are the Last, there is nothing after you. You are the Manifest, there is nothing above you. You are the Hidden, there is nothing beyond you.
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2713
The Hadith you narrate goes against you. There is nothing above him
Use your brain use your mind read and think by yourself, don't listen to everyone, please
*Why does the god of the universe need a throne to sit down on* ?
He doesn’t.
That's like saying why did Allah create the earth in x amount of days
He does what ever he wills
And there is nothing like him and nothing comparable to him
And he is not in need of anything
The salaf the sahabi made it clear that you affirm whatever is in the Quran the apparent meaning unless there is proof otherwise from the salaf to give it a different meaning
Whatever Allah says bout himself we believe in it who are we to be able to understand the creator when we cannot even understand how the creation how the earth works how our body functions it's complexity
The matter is clear cut numerous ayahs and sahih Hadith affirming the meaning is known as the apparent
May Allah guide us all
Youre speaking with your imagination., Where does it say sit? and Allah tells you there is nothing like unto me.
@@donutman6239 First of all it says He is above, it is not saying that He is sitting. Secondly, It amazes me that where He wants us to stop, everyone stops there. Our imaginations try to tell us it might be like this or like that, but it not more than a prediction. We will or the hardworking good believers will know the truth about Him when enter the heaven and being invited to see Him. And another thing amazes me is together with all other things that He tests us, knowing about Him to a limited level makes a lot of sense 🤩
Allahu Akbar ameen
So, what this guy is saying all of these about Allah, and Allah created this special throne and never ones sit on it? No Islam can answer this question because Allah simply never exist. The Holy Bible states very clearly: Ezekial 1:26-27 the Son of man sits on his thrown in heaven. The Son of man who exist from everlasting to everlasting as God, the Word, the Creator and in the Flesh, John 1:1 and the Son of man sit on his throne in his glorious power Matt. 24:31. God-man that only Christian has the wisdom to understand, none else can comprehand. Usually when you create or make something you then to use it, touch it and eventually let people know that it is useful. In this case Allah found his throne to be unuseful so he hover above it forever and ever. Nice. There are people out there believe these lies.
In the Arab Christian bibles they use the word Allah. And they had Christianity long before it reached Europe. Worship the creator and not the creation.
he is beauty
ALLAH
sura 20 verse 5
Yawwww muslim drake🙌
be warned from this guy
yes He says Allah is above the Arsh but Allah has no direction
@@muhammadseyab9032 yes a contradiction, that's because he has no understand about aqida. Allah does not change because his perfect, and so the aya Allah raised above the throne. Has a meaning but not the literal meaning, one accepted meaning by the scholars of Islam is Allah has power and control over everything he has created, and not a place for himself as Allah is not in need of anything.
@@James-qx5gx could aqeedah be affected by some translations or trying to describe Allah and the message in English, especially if you don’t have the gift or authority to choose the correct English words to describe such a grand and magnificent message?
@@James-qx5gx
No thats not a controdiction Allah is above the Thron in literaly meaning but he is above everything not just the Thron. He is not kept into one place.thats the wahhabi aqidah