The idea of the 4th dimension as a 3D being is kind of terrifying to think about. I already find cells unsettling but being able to see the insides of a being I would be unable to comprehend is crazy to think about.
@@wingedfeline5379 If I was seeing a 3D slice of the 4D being wouldn't I see their insides still? It works the same way for a 3D being looking at a 2D being and vice versa.
@@Jeroteroas the sphere saw the insides of the square, the 4d being would see the insides of you as “flat,” but you could not see the insides of a 4d being just as the square could not see the insides of the sphere.
I think this is the best representation of being persecuted for an idea I've seen Especially how even after presenting a two dimensional shape that could not grasp the third dimension with solid shapes, the sphere still thought of the concept of a fourth dimension to be impossible. In irony, the sphere couldn't grasp the concept of a fourth dimension, so it immediately rejected it
@@cyber_nuggets8302 the irony. Much like the residents of flatland, they couldn't grasp the possibility of depth and thus rejected the idea (your comment)
i think this is the best adaptation of the book. short and sweet, shows off all the concepts, doesn't have weird audio cues, what more could you wish for?
@@colelevel2654 I like Flatland the film by FilmLadd because of the worldbuilding and anatomical details. Plus interesting themes. Well not themes but you know, the messaging and such.
A. Sphere says A. Square is not used to shade and perspective, but lines in Flatland getting smaller as they move away and larger as they get closer is perspective. Also, the cube without shading resembles a hexagon.
If the cube had been perfectly aligned to the camera, it would appear as a hexagon. As it's slightly tilted, the sides are irregular, not equal. Flatlanders would have an extremely keen eye for that, so our protagonist immediately pegs it as an irregular figure.
I believe the flatlanders only have one eye, so they wouldn't experience perspective. It would be impossible to tell if an object, which to them looks like a line, is far away or just small. Although I'm pretty sure in the books they also have something called "fog" in their world which causes distant lines to appear differently do close ones, which they can use as a sort of alternative to perspective
In Flatland there's no shade per say, light is constant (coming from Spaceland) and only the fog can dim it for an observer. They infer distances and angles through this dimming, not through perspective. Also this is just a nitpick but in the book the sphere is not called "A Sphere", only the square has a proper name.
Man is abducted by aliens who grant him cosmic knowledge, *questions so much above the aliens knowledge that he gets thrown back to his restrictive land*, gets locked up by his countrymen as a madman and heretic
I also have been looking for it for decades. I saw it once before, during my sophomore year of high school in 1980-81. I never knew the main character was played by Dudley Moore.
Thank you for posting this. It's extremely rare and hard to find today. I think I may have seen it only once before, on broadcast TV approximately 55 years ago, on a children's program. Obviously, it made quite the impression on me; but all I could remember until now was the general premise of a land in 2D, the title, and the square being taken to trial at the sharp points of the isoceles triangles. What a surprise to find that it was narrated by Dudley Moore! I also didn't know that it was based on a book written in the 1880s! Seeing the impossibility of residents of each dimension conceiving of or fully understanding the conditions and environment of the next higher one, I have to wonder 1) whether we'll ever fully understand or have free movement in our 4th dimension, time, or if we'll be forever constrained by it. And I have to wonder about some as-yet unreachable (for us) 5th dimension, and whether it may be inhabited by beings who can see, understand, and freely use all of the 4 we experience. That WOULD, after all, be the next obvious and logical step in the pattern presented here... 🤔?
"If he's found to exceed the fixed margin of deviation, he's either destroyed or else inured in the government office as a clerk of the seventh class." The Imperium in W40K dealing with psykers.
Well... Uhm... To know what I mean when I say a cube, you take a hexagon, and then pick a vertex on the hexagon. Go clockwise and pick every other vertex. Then, connect those vertices to the exact center of the hexagon. And that's how you would see a cube!
Not sure the flatlanders would get it because it's an optical illusion in 3d space. To them it would be just as you described, a hexagon with connected points.
they wouldnt understand it either bc they only see in one dimension, or lines, so it wouldn't have much effect either, esp. considering what's said above
what's with the QR code hanging onto the video? wouldn't it just be easier to put its link in the description, and you know, leave the video unobstructed?
If they have knowledge of length and width and two-dimensional geometry in general, and their sight is a single dimension, couldn't you explain it by bisecting a square with a line, attributing this line to the entire range of sight, and denoting northward and southward from the equator-line as "up" and "down"? I dunno if the same trick could explain the w axis though, since I lack experience on perceiving the fourth dimension from a fourth-dimensional perspective
3:54 How could they even see these diagrams? They would just see just part of the outside of the figure. The other dot wouldn't even see the big orange square.
the QR code is basically an add for a service called download helper. I assume it was hosting the video and whoever uploaded it got it from there. If you use the free version, every video you download will have a QR code that leads to the download helper website and tells you the benefits of a paid version
insane that they got the most british man alive to narrate this
🤓 ahh voice
rare cyy sighting
I can't get over the way he says scamp lmao
That's Dudley Moore putting on a bit of an 'officious' accent.
It was 1965, that was just the average British man.
How I love the animation style of the 60’s, so charming and soft.
It’s so British that the first thing we learn about is the class system and it’s nearly 1/4 of the video.
The og story was very much a parody of the class system.
It sounds like “Oi Bruv! Is chewsday init?”
Okay but this short film was extra cute. I love these geometrical figures, they're so wholesomw
Its surreal seeing this after the 2007 version. Almost all of the elements from Flatland 2007 are present here, just condensed into 11 minutes
Yeah, I think the 2007 version was inspired by this one just as much as it was inspired from the book
There’s 2 versions from 2007. Which one?
@@hudsondunn8385 the Film, not the Movie (aka the Kristen Bell one)
5:50 A Square didn't even seem perturbed by this zany new concept he just sounds like he's havin a giggle
The idea of the 4th dimension as a 3D being is kind of terrifying to think about. I already find cells unsettling but being able to see the insides of a being I would be unable to comprehend is crazy to think about.
It's the other way around, the 4d being would be able to see your insides but you wouldn't be able to see the insides of a 4d being
@@wingedfeline5379 If I was seeing a 3D slice of the 4D being wouldn't I see their insides still? It works the same way for a 3D being looking at a 2D being and vice versa.
@@Jeroteroas the sphere saw the insides of the square, the 4d being would see the insides of you as “flat,” but you could not see the insides of a 4d being just as the square could not see the insides of the sphere.
@@ElectricDiamond360 ohh thanks for bringing up how that applies to a 2D being seeing a 3D being that makes much more sense.
coming across and watching this after JUST waking up is wild. feels like a fever dream
The voice acting was superb, the animation was simple and effective
I think this is the best representation of being persecuted for an idea I've seen
Especially how even after presenting a two dimensional shape that could not grasp the third dimension with solid shapes, the sphere still thought of the concept of a fourth dimension to be impossible.
In irony, the sphere couldn't grasp the concept of a fourth dimension, so it immediately rejected it
This comment has to be AI, right?
@@This_is_my_spoutProbably.
@@This_is_my_spout "this comment has depth, it must be AI"
@@cyber_nuggets8302 the irony. Much like the residents of flatland, they couldn't grasp the possibility of depth and thus rejected the idea (your comment)
the way the characters move in this adaptation is really charming. also A Square's voice is cute :))
i think this is the best adaptation of the book. short and sweet, shows off all the concepts, doesn't have weird audio cues, what more could you wish for?
A nongrating voice. Seriously, Id rather blow my head off than listen to another minute of whoever the f*ck did the voiceacting for A. Square.
Very good, but I also like the tone and style of the 2007 movie.
@@MetaSonic543which 2007 movie? There are 2
The more popular one@@colelevel2654
@@colelevel2654 I like Flatland the film by FilmLadd because of the worldbuilding and anatomical details. Plus interesting themes. Well not themes but you know, the messaging and such.
A. Sphere says A. Square is not used to shade and perspective, but lines in Flatland getting smaller as they move away and larger as they get closer is perspective.
Also, the cube without shading resembles a hexagon.
If the cube had been perfectly aligned to the camera, it would appear as a hexagon. As it's slightly tilted, the sides are irregular, not equal. Flatlanders would have an extremely keen eye for that, so our protagonist immediately pegs it as an irregular figure.
I believe the flatlanders only have one eye, so they wouldn't experience perspective. It would be impossible to tell if an object, which to them looks like a line, is far away or just small. Although I'm pretty sure in the books they also have something called "fog" in their world which causes distant lines to appear differently do close ones, which they can use as a sort of alternative to perspective
In Flatland there's no shade per say, light is constant (coming from Spaceland) and only the fog can dim it for an observer.
They infer distances and angles through this dimming, not through perspective.
Also this is just a nitpick but in the book the sphere is not called "A Sphere", only the square has a proper name.
man is abducted by aliens who grant him cosmic knowledge, gets locked up by his countrymen as a madman and heretic
Man is abducted by aliens who grant him cosmic knowledge, *questions so much above the aliens knowledge that he gets thrown back to his restrictive land*, gets locked up by his countrymen as a madman and heretic
SPOILERS! This is the top comment now!
I like your pfp, it's pretty :D
@@ShovelLettuce thank you ^_^
600th like
I know nobody cares
I don’t know why, but I find a sort of weird charm in 60s animated films
THANK YOU for posting this. I have been searching for it for literally years. I last saw it roughly 25 years ago
same here, it flashes up online only to disappear again so quickly.
I also have been looking for it for decades. I saw it once before, during my sophomore year of high school in 1980-81. I never knew the main character was played by Dudley Moore.
This is so much more pleasing than the other adaptions.
Gorgeous! Charming adaptation. I just re read the book - audio version narrated by Kevin Eldon. Brilliant, but unbearably sad.
GUYS STOP WITH THE BILL CIPHER REFERENCES I CANT HANDLE THIS THE HYPERFIXATION IS RETURNING 😭😭
Is that a bill cipher reference?
Bill cipher is a flatland reference
@@Femtobot314 i know but everyone kept mentioning bill cipher in the comments
fascinating movie. it's also cute and funny! i enjoyed it so much
4:38 the sphere fails to realize that it's only obvious FOR HIM.
Billy 😢😢😢
I clicked because I thought it was a music with good looking album cover 😅
same lol
Reminded me of a Franz Ferdinand album
Why the sudden youtube recommendation, Euclydia?
Because we're all here, being invested in a freaking triangle.
@@cawareyoudoin7379 a triangle in a Tophat.
@@TheIzzlzzyAnd a bowtie
And who is also yellow
Thank you for posting this. It's extremely rare and hard to find today. I think I may have seen it only once before, on broadcast TV approximately 55 years ago, on a children's program. Obviously, it made quite the impression on me; but all I could remember until now was the general premise of a land in 2D, the title, and the square being taken to trial at the sharp points of the isoceles triangles. What a surprise to find that it was narrated by Dudley Moore! I also didn't know that it was based on a book written in the 1880s! Seeing the impossibility of residents of each dimension conceiving of or fully understanding the conditions and environment of the next higher one, I have to wonder 1) whether we'll ever fully understand or have free movement in our 4th dimension, time, or if we'll be forever constrained by it. And I have to wonder about some as-yet unreachable (for us) 5th dimension, and whether it may be inhabited by beings who can see, understand, and freely use all of the 4 we experience. That WOULD, after all, be the next obvious and logical step in the pattern presented here... 🤔?
So this is the “dimension” bill grew up in?
I knew there would be a GF fan here hahah.
It's similar, but considering in the original book women were lines, not exactly the same.
Yeah but unlike the others i think as A sphere would say, he was born with "height"
Apparently there was one before 2007...
Bill Cipher Lore:
Comparing this to the newer movie is fascinating, I gotta read the book sometime
this short film is very charming!
Mid century Britain was such a unique and tasteful time and place
I kinda wish they made the prison an equilateral hexagon, the shadow of a cube in 2d in a specific orientation.
This film is great feels like the 2007 film
It's a book about shapes, but not for kids.
I mean kids can watch it, it's just that it was not directed towards kids as its main audience
1:30 "Eye, sauceso-leaze. TRI-yangles... Eyesausoleese, try-yangles"
When the grandkid started screeching like Psychicpebbles I knew this was real shit
the most minimalistic cartoon ever!
i just know the narrator has some crazy ass teeth
0:22 normal serif font
0:24 cowboy font
like such a small yet huge difference
*Why did you do it?*
Bill cipher helped make this movie. Never forget euclydia
1:30 they eviscerated that woman so casually, and for what?
Bill ciphers dimension
So this is where Bill used to live
This..is..fabulous
Bill Cipher:
“The Flatland” came before Gravity Falls.
the book came out in like the 1800 hundreds
First film voice work, as well as film debut, for Dudley Moore.
I just watched Arthur and then I came back to this video, missing him for reals
I’ve never heard someone more British in my life. I can’t make out most of what he’s saying
OK love this to bits but the Lois Griffin woman at 4:40 got to me good
i cant watch this without hearing murdoc
6:18 the absolute fear in their voice
"If he's found to exceed the fixed margin of deviation, he's either destroyed or else inured in the government office as a clerk of the seventh class."
The Imperium in W40K dealing with psykers.
this is epic
Poor thing poor a square
i get that reference!
Hmmm so like Bill is if the square was able to break out of his prison, I think it's funny we been knew since journal 3 but it has been expanded on
6:37 my country men!...ew...
_Bill Cipher Disliked This Video._
Well... Uhm... To know what I mean when I say a cube, you take a hexagon, and then pick a vertex on the hexagon. Go clockwise and pick every other vertex. Then, connect those vertices to the exact center of the hexagon. And that's how you would see a cube!
HERETIC!!!
Not sure the flatlanders would get it because it's an optical illusion in 3d space. To them it would be just as you described, a hexagon with connected points.
they wouldnt understand it either bc they only see in one dimension, or lines, so it wouldn't have much effect either, esp. considering what's said above
They can only see a line, they wouldn't get that analogy.
That's like describing it as being the shape of a rubix cube
didn't know droopy the dog got a job in narration
bill cipher qthis bill cipher that. what about the fourth dimension girl. ponder the tesseract
4:26 How may one picture three cubed?
Hmmm... Maybe as a cube?
bill cipher was here
Keep up the great work
This Made A Revival In Numberbocks
i love it when the hexagon boofs him for every syllable of grandpapa
This version is much better than the 2007.
also this could not be possible without that mothman prophecies flatland combo Shawn
Why did you do it
what's with the QR code hanging onto the video? wouldn't it just be easier to put its link in the description, and you know, leave the video unobstructed?
4:00 his grandson sounds like charlies grandma
Oh grandpapa
The woman just got violated
bro sounds like he has to narrate the actions of a man who likes pressing buttons and is obsessed with buckets
Good ol' days
too bad there's a QR code over literally the whole video :/
And then Bill killed them all
Anyone here from the Gravity Falls fandom?
Flatland if it was a soviet cartoon
1:30 Ohhh so that's how baby are made in flat land, Noted 😏
i like the newer flatland
Oh...
How were they so much gayer in the 1965 movie than the more recent one
needs more pinkpantherish xylophone
Why A square hexagon son sounds like zach
1:29 that's so weird..
Why is there a qr code in the top left?
i legit feal bad for square
why did you do it
4:00 Zach hadel?
For real that voice almost killed me. Run, Daddy-Square!
If they have knowledge of length and width and two-dimensional geometry in general, and their sight is a single dimension, couldn't you explain it by bisecting a square with a line, attributing this line to the entire range of sight, and denoting northward and southward from the equator-line as "up" and "down"?
I dunno if the same trick could explain the w axis though, since I lack experience on perceiving the fourth dimension from a fourth-dimensional perspective
3:54 How could they even see these diagrams? They would just see just part of the outside of the figure. The other dot wouldn't even see the big orange square.
I dont think we as space landers can describe ana and kata
1:34 flat land army
Woahhh
says he's happy, he's a liar
blame the arson for the fire
Why is there too much isoceles triangles in flatland videos
Why is there a QR code in 1965
this was uploaded 3 years ago in 2021
kind of a bummer
4:40 send this sound-byte without context lol
What does the QR code lead to? I'm not scanning some random thing
the QR code is basically an add for a service called download helper. I assume it was hosting the video and whoever uploaded it got it from there. If you use the free version, every video you download will have a QR code that leads to the download helper website and tells you the benefits of a paid version
basically they used a download service for free and the service put an add in the video