@@grahh7234 nice, ive been getting 3-4 kill games in my mig-21s, but like, when i play at night and get my constant 10.7 uptiers, its usually just a 1 kill game
This has been my experience as well, 11.3 basically has the same matchmaker as 11.0 with way better planes. Which is just odd considering 12.3 is a thing.
11.3 is where you’ll start seeing PD and better sparrows,as well as the best mig23s in the game,and keep in mind,remember the 6 months of mig23MLD,they are still that good,just not top dogs obviously
11.0 gets farrrr more down tiers, out of like 80 games I got 3 down tiers in 11,3 a few days ago, it was easy to count to cause I’d never played that jet💀
@@minininja9322 it means when you radar lock someone and then try to fire a 9j at them, the seeker follows the radar lock when it's on rails instead of just being in the middle.
This thing is my third most flown plane in the game, beaten by the 105G & J35. Before the most recent major update this thing was a beast, and it'd get downtiered more than the J7's. just like the F4E, getting downtiered with 4 good rear-aspect missiles and 2 DF radar missiles would almost always guarantee at least 2 or 3 kills a match, and when those kills are on F5's, you feel real good. But now with the most recent major update I've been seeing a maximum of 3-7ish downtiers in a 4~ hour game session, which is nothing compared to what it used to be. If this is Gaijin cracking down on the Viggens, I hope they either change the Viggens back to getting more downtiers, or making every other 11.0 suffer the same amount of uptiers as the Viggens.
Fun fact since M/75(Viggen cannon) SAPHEI don't overpen(even on a paper thin PO-2 wood tail) i find ground belts more effective than air belts for all occasions both air and ground department, the only real downside is having less explosive filler(42g hexal on HEI vs 18,5g hexal on SAPHEI), but that is mitigate by the fact that sap will pen first blow later instead of blowing on contact. PS:You can also switch modes while in lock since the RWR update droped, so it can help you maintain a lock if someone is notching you
Important to note if you take counter measure pod with you (which you should) you can only equip a single very off center gun pod without tracers, which is in my oppinion very hard to aim. But yea it does good nowadays.
@@vanos3378 That is very true. I will say that you get used to it after having flown it out in over 100 matches, but it's definitely weird in the beginning. Another point is whether the extra gun is even necessary due to the damage the Swedish 30mm can dish out, but that is of course up to the individual.
My buddy flew the J37 while I flew the Kfir C2 for an entire week in mid-October and pretty much got 90% downtiers that whole time. All this just goes to show how frustrating MM dependence can be for those planes that either stomp in DT or get annihilated in UT.
hello joob :) you should try out the g.91 r/3, it's a lot of fun and you have a tool for basically any situation. and the roll rate means it's so nice to fly :)
@@Wandhydrantt honestly who cares about 9B's? the G91 is excellent as a close in dogfighter, and that pair of DEFAs it carries really makes it fun. Plus the missiles imo weigh the airframe down too much, in something like the R/4
Been having a ton of games where I'm in the middle of dogfighting in the furball and either the whole of the enemy team dies before I can kill anyone or my whole team dies. The furball stomp seems more prevalent than ever. Also, teamkilling at the beginning of matches is getting wild and top tier US has a win rate near 0, my battles history for the US is filled with match losses.
played the viggen yesterday too, 17 matches and 16 of them were 12.0 and because I'm pessimistic the odd one out was still a slight up tier to 11.3. Gaijin even baited me into thinking I got a second 11.3 game but then it turned out the enemy had an f16 and yak41 and we just got railed.
I just think we've way underestimated how much time it's gonna take for people to play 12.3 in a big enough quantity to shift the matchmaker. We could it see it happen in time, but it may be irrelevant since new updates will come out by then.
The skyflash atleast works unlike the sparrows, nearly 100% killratio unlike sparrows that miss for no reason and just turn 90degrees right before it should hit
I have noticed this when flying the ja37c, I don't have all the missiles yet so i have been trying to geind them but I experience more uptiers than downtiers but i hear from people online that you experience 50/50 so it is weird
off topic, a quick tip, don't be afraid to use the Rb. 71 at weird/rear aspects. Even at close range. Your pulse doppler is dual direction and very flare resistant and the skyflashes can't be "flared off". If you know what you're doing, the Rb. 71 can be your most reliable missile, even better than the 24J.
Skill issue bro 😂 I get just as good games with it at 12.0 as I do at 10.3 fighting whole teams of f5s. skyflashes are great for low altitude head ons because of the short burn time, and with flares needing time to heat up, just be patient, close in to .8km or .5mi and your aim9j equivalents won't give a damn about flares.
Hello guys I'm a fairly experienced player level 85 f2p. I just want a top-tier to finish out USSR or USA . I already am close to the SMT so should I get the F5C, F4S or the Mig 23 ML. Is 11.3 a hell hole for 12.3? Is US matchmaking better than USSR
Depends, if you have zero experience in dealing with a lot of good missiles in a lobby (you'll need a very good situation awareness) I'll advice getting the F5c. 10.3 is a good br to learn how higher tiers are working. And since you are f2p you must know how to use a gun so the fact that the missiles of the F5c are mid wont be an issue.
@@byson8628 Yes 80 to 90% of the time. If you have played those jets you have kind of an idea of what good missiles can do to you, and you know how to aim. For me the F5c is gonna be perfect for you because you can aim and you'll have flares for the first time so in order to use them properlly you are gonna work your situation awareness (being able to look around even during a dogfight to be able to see a missile coming for example) wich is the main goal. And also you are gonna get use to flare once or twice when you can't look around because you are 2seconds from a shooting solution for example.
It still pisses me off that F-16As can now out-AoA this thing at any speed, fast or slow. The G-limiter on the F-16, coming from someone who has both Jaktviggens and the F-16AJ, was not that much of a handicap. I have no idea why Gaijin removed it and made the F-16 a literal UFO.
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oops, left the outro in the microwave too long.
My ears, hurts almost as bad the the grind for this god forsaken game
what kind of microwave you got there?
this is why people dont want to know you, cuz you be doing these things to our ears mane
It was a pleasant surprise
That microwave probably can power a nuclear power plant.
The microwave baked outro really captures the feeling of playing 11.0 and seeing another full uptier
On my suicide note I will blame War Thunder
real
11.0 is stupid now. In west coast US (downtier/midtier) always happens before 3-5pm after that it’s all (upteir/midtier) till 6am
uptiers for me start at roughly 6-7 pm and im east coast
Thats the same matchmaker im having in 9.7
ill try it out tn
managed to get a 9 kill game by using this in my 21bis
@@grahh7234 nice, ive been getting 3-4 kill games in my mig-21s, but like, when i play at night and get my constant 10.7 uptiers, its usually just a 1 kill game
Always love the outros, bravo 🙏
This has been my experience as well, 11.3 basically has the same matchmaker as 11.0 with way better planes. Which is just odd considering 12.3 is a thing.
11.3 is where you’ll start seeing PD and better sparrows,as well as the best mig23s in the game,and keep in mind,remember the 6 months of mig23MLD,they are still that good,just not top dogs obviously
@@lamborgatti-4783 you mean the only mig 23s, because 11.0 mig23 are just complete dog poop
11.0 gets farrrr more down tiers, out of like 80 games I got 3 down tiers in 11,3 a few days ago, it was easy to count to cause I’d never played that jet💀
0:45, slight correction, the rb24j/aim9p is now slightly superior in that it has radar slaving where the 9j does not.
What does that mean?
@@minininja9322 it means when you radar lock someone and then try to fire a 9j at them, the seeker follows the radar lock when it's on rails instead of just being in the middle.
@@thomashanson6603 Thank you
Blessed our ears with that outro 🙏🏼🙏🏼
This thing is my third most flown plane in the game, beaten by the 105G & J35. Before the most recent major update this thing was a beast, and it'd get downtiered more than the J7's. just like the F4E, getting downtiered with 4 good rear-aspect missiles and 2 DF radar missiles would almost always guarantee at least 2 or 3 kills a match, and when those kills are on F5's, you feel real good. But now with the most recent major update I've been seeing a maximum of 3-7ish downtiers in a 4~ hour game session, which is nothing compared to what it used to be. If this is Gaijin cracking down on the Viggens, I hope they either change the Viggens back to getting more downtiers, or making every other 11.0 suffer the same amount of uptiers as the Viggens.
great outro, especially with headphones!
On top of the seeker change, the 9Js are now quite flare resistant however it can no longer be radar slaved. (However 9Ps and rb24js can be)
The outro getting us out of the hood with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯
that is some solid radioactive outro waves you've got there
That outro was way too funny
Weird how the downtier on JA37D, basically forces this to be 10.7, which they won't do. another reason we need decompression
The plane only goes up man, no down
Fun fact since M/75(Viggen cannon) SAPHEI don't overpen(even on a paper thin PO-2 wood tail) i find ground belts more effective than air belts for all occasions both air and ground department, the only real downside is having less explosive filler(42g hexal on HEI vs 18,5g hexal on SAPHEI), but that is mitigate by the fact that sap will pen first blow later instead of blowing on contact.
PS:You can also switch modes while in lock since the RWR update droped, so it can help you maintain a lock if someone is notching you
mmmm crunchy outro, me likey
Man someone really knew Spookston but not the Spookston of the air, Joob?
The outro be chefs kiss frfr
Bruh what a clapped ending. Still it’s hilarious
🅱oob outro lookin NICELY toasted
Thank you joob for the amazing outro I am deaf now
outro go hard af lmao
Love that outro
I can recommend trying the AJ37 at 10.3, it only has 2 rb24j's and has to carry countermeasures on it's pylons, but it's a lot of fun
Important to note if you take counter measure pod with you (which you should) you can only equip a single very off center gun pod without tracers, which is in my oppinion very hard to aim.
But yea it does good nowadays.
@@vanos3378 That is very true. I will say that you get used to it after having flown it out in over 100 matches, but it's definitely weird in the beginning. Another point is whether the extra gun is even necessary due to the damage the Swedish 30mm can dish out, but that is of course up to the individual.
best outro yet
Bro that outro 😭😭🤣
deep fried outro lets gooooo best part of the video for me lmao
this man always nails the outro lmfao
I knew that was you. Was staring at your name too long thinking "is that the real Joob?" and got dunked on by you. Neat I made it in your vid tho.
My buddy flew the J37 while I flew the Kfir C2 for an entire week in mid-October and pretty much got 90% downtiers that whole time. All this just goes to show how frustrating MM dependence can be for those planes that either stomp in DT or get annihilated in UT.
bass boosted outro got me
Must say, Joob is just the air battles Spookston.
Respectfully
hello joob :)
you should try out the g.91 r/3, it's a lot of fun and you have a tool for basically any situation. and the roll rate means it's so nice to fly :)
Sadly No aim9b‘s
@@Wandhydrantt honestly who cares about 9B's? the G91 is excellent as a close in dogfighter, and that pair of DEFAs it carries really makes it fun. Plus the missiles imo weigh the airframe down too much, in something like the R/4
The outro is great lmao
i love the outro music
Been having a ton of games where I'm in the middle of dogfighting in the furball and either the whole of the enemy team dies before I can kill anyone or my whole team dies. The furball stomp seems more prevalent than ever. Also, teamkilling at the beginning of matches is getting wild and top tier US has a win rate near 0, my battles history for the US is filled with match losses.
GIven there is going to be a sale at the end of this week, maybe consider showing the F-104S? It's also 11.0.
Thats literally the one of the worst rank 7 premiums in the game
I enjoyed the bass boosted outro
Best outro ever
Playing the viggen a lot it does so well in downtiers and really bad in uptiers and the rb24j has ridiculous flare resistance sometimes
The ending💀
Want pain? try the J21 RB or RA on sweden
as a viggen player i see downteirs almost all the time but it honestly depends on what time you play
Love the W I D E outro joob
I feel bad for the headphone users that stayed till the end.
Lovely outro :)
played the viggen yesterday too, 17 matches and 16 of them were 12.0 and because I'm pessimistic the odd one out was still a slight up tier to 11.3. Gaijin even baited me into thinking I got a second 11.3 game but then it turned out the enemy had an f16 and yak41 and we just got railed.
"AIM-7E-2 takes so long to get anywhere"
*cries in F-4EJ with AIM-7E which slower, takes 4 seconds to start pulling and at the same br*
I just think we've way underestimated how much time it's gonna take for people to play 12.3 in a big enough quantity to shift the matchmaker. We could it see it happen in time, but it may be irrelevant since new updates will come out by then.
Me into the Italian tornado at 11.3 and Always playing at 12.3 for 4 hours straight😢😢
thought my pc died for a sec and then also had stroke coz the outro...
The skyflash atleast works unlike the sparrows, nearly 100% killratio unlike sparrows that miss for no reason and just turn 90degrees right before it should hit
3:14 "kabloey"
Dose anyone remember wen the viggen was terrifying to see in a match
The outro lol
Beautiful outro
toptier joob bass boosted to the moon outro
Calming outro
AHHH MY FRIKEN EARS AT 8:47
I feel like american jets get a lot more downtiers then swedish jets and sometimes i only get downtiers even at 11.3 5 times in a row
Naaahhh that outro though
Yall really thought a .3 br change to a handful of jets would change anything 😂
Outro got me
Welcome to 12.0 Black Hole, bud
i like ur new outro :)
Used the ja37c to grind ja37d. Constantly getting full up tiers made me wanna slit my wrists
Viggen main here, downtiers are real rare lol🤣😭
Bass boosted end lmao
Banger outro
Did any of y’all stick around for the earrape outtro?
The outro 😂
I've had good matchmaking with the Finnish mig21
Half the vehicle roster relying on the matchmaker purely to make said vehicle viable. Truly a War Thunder experience.
This thing is still way stronger then Mig23m while sharing same br
MY EARRRRRRRS!!!
Its the same for the mig21 lazur-M its almost only uptiers and you only get r60MK’s 1 flare and they are done and a water pistol 🔫
I'm torn between vig vig vig or vark vark vark
bruh what the hell happened to the outro?? XD
yoo sweden jet
Im having a fking lot of fun with it now ;,) finally
I have noticed this when flying the ja37c, I don't have all the missiles yet so i have been trying to geind them but I experience more uptiers than downtiers but i hear from people online that you experience 50/50 so it is weird
off topic, a quick tip, don't be afraid to use the Rb. 71 at weird/rear aspects. Even at close range.
Your pulse doppler is dual direction and very flare resistant and the skyflashes can't be "flared off". If you know what you're doing, the Rb. 71 can be your most reliable missile, even better than the 24J.
Skill issue bro 😂 I get just as good games with it at 12.0 as I do at 10.3 fighting whole teams of f5s. skyflashes are great for low altitude head ons because of the short burn time, and with flares needing time to heat up, just be patient, close in to .8km or .5mi and your aim9j equivalents won't give a damn about flares.
Outro moment
you really had to put in that earrape at 8:45 huh
For my f4e it is great most of the time .
I just would like to add that from my own experience ground belt with saphei works way better than standard hei at JA37C/D :D
5:28 poor joob
“Who the fuck is Joob” 😢😢
Whats with the double trail on the sparrows?
Hello guys I'm a fairly experienced player level 85 f2p. I just want a top-tier to finish out USSR or USA . I already am close to the SMT so should I get the F5C, F4S or the Mig 23 ML. Is 11.3 a hell hole for 12.3? Is US matchmaking better than USSR
Depends, if you have zero experience in dealing with a lot of good missiles in a lobby (you'll need a very good situation awareness) I'll advice getting the F5c.
10.3 is a good br to learn how higher tiers are working. And since you are f2p you must know how to use a gun so the fact that the missiles of the F5c are mid wont be an issue.
@@vedeved5246 Thanks bro I do have the F104A , Mig 21S and Mig 19PT, is 11.3 always sucked up to 12.3?
@@byson8628
Yes 80 to 90% of the time.
If you have played those jets you have kind of an idea of what good missiles can do to you, and you know how to aim.
For me the F5c is gonna be perfect for you because you can aim and you'll have flares for the first time so in order to use them properlly you are gonna work your situation awareness (being able to look around even during a dogfight to be able to see a missile coming for example) wich is the main goal.
And also you are gonna get use to flare once or twice when you can't look around because you are 2seconds from a shooting solution for example.
@@Shadow_3-112.3 R-73s are not kind
interesting outro
nice outro bro
Joof hit 50k by end of the year??
rb24j is not the same missile bcs you can radar/irst slave it. the aim9j cant do that anymore
RB-24J is an 9P
Bass boosted outro doesnt hit like the old one lol
damn i was looking froward to trying it
The Mig-23MLA gets upteird to 12.3 all time its rare to get a downteir
It still pisses me off that F-16As can now out-AoA this thing at any speed, fast or slow.
The G-limiter on the F-16, coming from someone who has both Jaktviggens and the F-16AJ, was not that much of a handicap.
I have no idea why Gaijin removed it and made the F-16 a literal UFO.