I own both a 1911 and a P-38 (1942, by Mauser). The P-38 is so well designed, to fit in your hand, it's a true pleasure to shoot, and the de-cock safety, and the 'chambered round' indicator are great features. I'll take it over the .45.
In the end, I think hickok says it best: you like 9mm then the P38 is your baby. You like .45 ACP, the 1911a1 will serve you well. Neither is better. They are both amazing firearms that could hold their own against almost anything made today. Thanks for the frank discussion!
1911a1 was by far the best handgun though until the p38 came out 30 years later. And still the p38 wasn't next gen or better, just a handgun on the same level.
@@mver191 I always wondered why Germans never adopted the .45acp since the p38 only holds 8+1, the 1911 7+1. I guess since the 9mm luger had a faster speed it was more advantageous since they used 9mm in their smg
I served my time as a Panzer Grenadier, my side arm was the P01, a modern version of the P38. The P01/P38 was by far, the much better pistol and would take any 9mm ammo from ball to P+ and did not miss a beat. By the way the Luger P08 wasn't that fragile, just expensive to make. Think difference in the late 1930's is about $10 more expensive in your money.
sergeant5027 absolutely not. it is a perfectly serviceable pistol used by many nations with over 10milion pieces made. it was innovative, reliable, precice and easy to shoot. the only problem is its price.
I got a p.38 and 2 p.08 lugers. Man the lugers run great i have never had them jam up or fail to work unless it was my fault. The p.08 is great but the p.38 was cheaper less work to build and a much more modern design. Between the p.08 or the p.38 I can't make up my mind which one i like more.
Loved the comparison. I have two P-38s and one M1911-A1. Both models are neat pistols. I also love watching sprint arrive in Tennessee via your channel. What a beautiful place.
My Grandpa brought home 2 P38's from Belgium. They both got stolen from his bag on his way home. It would have been passed down to me. Oh well, I have a 1911 and dad has a couple Kimbers. I love all em. :-) Love the Vid. :-)
P-38 all the way. I love me some 1911, but my favorite pistol from my collection is a Spreewerke P-38 made just before the invasion of Berlin. You can tell because you can easily see all the machine marks. It's such a piece of history, a weapon of a (very rightly) dying part of German history. It was taken off of very young German officer who surrendered during the invasion of Berlin. I've never fired that pistol, but the first pistol I fired that was not a .22 was a P1.
The P.38 has a great advantage. You can bear it with a round in the chamber, uncocked, safety off. Nothing can happen because the firing pin is retained by the trigger safety device. To fire you only pull the trigger. And it has a little pin above the hammer that indicates whether there is a round in the chamber.
Jeff Hardymon actually it isnt much different from the 1911 if you lived in that time period. soldiers wouldnt just drop the magazines on the ground anyway as they needed it later, so a mag change on the 1911 tskes about the same time. the heel release on the p.38 exists to encourage keeping the magzine and not giving the illusion of it being discardable.
I carry a 1980 P1 variant and while a heel release would lose in a range competition, it's feels pretty intuitive once you learn them. It's fully reliant on your support hand, however the nature of it's placement means you have positive feedback to feel when it's locked in. So from it's pointer grip stance, to it's mag release; it's really a testament to how guns then were designed around being a physical extension of the shooter. It's crazy how we went from that to Glock, modern (brick on a stick) designs.
I was told by an old Vet that the US military guys actually preferred the P38 over 1911. Watching the vid, I noticed the 1911 kicks up a lot more then the P38.
I don't doubt that a bit. Most service people do not grow up firing a 1911; they've shot revolvers only more than likely, provided they'd shot ANY sort of handgun. The 1911 takes some getting used to before one falls in love with it. Not really the time and patience in military training for that, I'd guess. The P39 would be less recoil and easier to shoot well for somebody who has limited time on the trigger of a semi-auto pistol.
@@hickok45 I also heard the the training on the pistol, at least the P.08, were trained single handed while standing sideways to the target. It makes since considering the angle of the grips. I have a P.08 and it’s more accurate then my S&W M&P9 Performance Center.
According to Evan Marshall, there is a 1% difference in stopping power in the two cartridges when using ball ammo. So basically, no difference at all really. So Jeff Cooper was full of it when he used to say: "they all fall to hardball." Personally, I would rather have a Browning Hi-Power than either of these.
+LK Campbell Yup, 9mm vs. .45 ACP, hollow point vs. FMJ, if the gun works and the shooter is trained with that firearm, then that's all that matters in my opinion. People worry too much about the little things that only differ a percent or two.
+LK Campbell I carry .9mm because the guns are more concealable. .45 is more effective. But more capacity in .9mm, concealment ability, less recoil. Makes the 9 a good choice. And a 9mm 147 grn HST is very effective. But.. compared to the .45 HST 230 grn the .45 wins every time.
from a Kinetic energy standpoint yes, both have ~480 Joules of kinetic energy BUT the .45 has alot more momentum and copper,lead mass to rip bigger wound channels the momentum of the .45 is 3.8Kg-m/s compared to just 2.74Kg-m/s for the 9mm. I think that Damage to the target is an aggregate balance between Kinetic energy and Momentum and they both have the Same kinetic energy (1:1) but the .45 has 40% (1.4:1) more momentum so 1.4/1 = 1.4 so the .45 does 40% more damage overall.
Just bought one. It's marked AC 42 which means it's made by Walther in 1942... it's a bit unique though because the finish on the gun resembles the earlier pre-war models as opposed to the more crude finish on wartime productions. Apart from being fully blued and polished, it also has these really redish/brown grips which I have not seen before. It's marked with all the right stamps and as far as I can tell it is all original finish.
+Stanley Yelnats It's the exposed barrel that makes the P38 look antiquated. Mechanically the P38 is actually much more modern. If I recall correctly it was the first semi-auto with a double action trigger.
Both pistols were ahead of their time. The 1911 was one of the first pistols with a slide, it may have been the first to have been adopted by any major military(Not sure). Though the fact that it's a 100 year old design that is still used and loved by many people speaks for itself.
the p38 was a milestone of technic.she has got all the spezials like modern guns.and the 1911 were still produced since 1911.this both guns are 2 of the best guns in the world ever.
S&W borrowed a lot from the P38 Walther and the 1911 to create their model 39 & 59 series in the 1950s. In fact P38 magazines fit in a S&W 39 and only need a small square hole cut into to it to function in the S&W 39.
I have a 1911 (Springfield Armory .45 ACP) and shot the P.38 and the P-1 a lot, the latter during my service within the German Army from 1994 to 1996. BOTH are great and timeless handguns, so Hickhok is absolutely right. Good and cool vid as always.
Your video are so informative and really cool. I live in England and our gun controls/law are VERY strict so watching your videos is a real treat. Thank you Sir👌
Thanks for talking to me at the gun show last week! I'm sure you're busy but i really enjoyed meeting you! I'll continue to watch your show at work. I'm not a dog in real life, only on the internet.
na verdade aqui no Brasil é possível obter armas de fogo sim. A grande questão é que é muito complicado, pois é necessário passar por uma série de documentações e tal. Nos EUA é mais simples, você só precisa chegar em uma loja de armas e comprar. Mas, assim como nos EUA, só é possível manter suas armas dentro de casa. Conseguir porte é uma das coisas mais impossíveis. Mas você pode tentar comprar uma arma em sua casa para legítima defesa.
+Ken Pirkey Because when people like him were little, mommy & daddy didn't dust his bottom enough and teach him some manners! You just have to over look them :)
Hickok, my dad carried both the 1911 sidearm and a BAR. Luckily he came home and had me! He didn't talk about his service much, but that is the way the WWII vets were. If they came home they wanted to forget and get on with "normal" life. I miss that great man that is my dad.
I've been shooting the 1911 since 1974. I've never had "Trigger bite" Can't imagine how the slide would hit your hand or wrist. I have a 1938 P-38 love shooting both.
Soldiers were first taught to shoot the 1911 with the middle finger and point with the index. However the issue of soldiers pushing the lock pin while firing caused the change to the index finger. Just a little history, love your channel.
I find the P38 to be easier to unjam in case of a bad round. The opening on top is much larger. There are also 2 slide recoil springs (one on each side) versus a single spring in the 1911. I don't know if that's a plus or minus.
The M1911A1 was still in service with Marine support units all the way up to the early '90s as it took awhile for the M9s to be issued throughout the fleet. My old GySgt and Captain carried one during Desert Storm. That old gun lasted a lot longer than 80 years. Great gun.
I have all three WW2 classics here, the 08, the P38 and the 1911. My father brought the 08 and the P38 from WW2, I bought the 1911 new in the late 1970s. I enjoy shooting all three pistols, but I don't want to use any of them as my EDC gun. For that I have my Glock 22.
+Granny Torrelli - I had a golden rule about hand guns, any pistol I bought no matter how big or small I would conceal carry at a minimal once..... Then I got some black powder civil war replica revolvers from Pietta and broke my rule... Some things should just be left for fun range visits and homage to the past :P
For the WW2 era the Browning Hi-Power / P-35 completely dominates both of those guns. It´s also the only one that was and still is a worldwide commercial success. The 1911 was/is a success within the US but everybody else had the Hi-Power and more than 50 countries still use it as their military sidearm.
Both pistols the P38 as well as the 1911 are superb sidearms. My personal choice from the point of a European is that the 9mm Para rounds are big enough and powerful enough. Federal Pistol Target Shooting competition is mostly restricted to 7.65mm Para and 9mm Para and never met a fellow shooter who was moaning regarding the magazine release, despite the magazin release button is the slightly faster way for dropping the empty magazine by using only one hand.
+MsckMatt I guess the for the time the guy scraped it, it was probably the equivalent of a solider scratching the side of his Beretta today, which wouldn't be a big dealio.
+Mackbros24 The elderly can particularly benefit from medical cannabis consumption, especially if you are tall like Hickok you need the anti-inflammatory effects of cannabis.
BFninjaGaming Zavisi 😃. 1911 je precizniji, jači, sigurniji, udobniji, ali P38 ima Metak više, dosta češći kalibar, dabl ekšn, lakši je i pouzdaniji što se tiče vremenskih uslova. Ja bi lično pre 1911, jer je za nijansu bolji što se tiče preciznosti i ima bolji kalibar, ali sve ukupno ne možeš da odabereš bolji od ova dva, jer su oba vrhunski pištolji
@@konyinaTokarev je najprecizniji od svih pištolja drugog svetskog rata zbog 7,62 x 25 kalibra koji ima jako javnu parabolu , P38 ima dekoker i najbolje nišane, nišan na 1911 je jedva upotrebljiv, Nambu ima bolji nišan od 1911.
@@dobridjordje Пре 7 година сам написао ово 😀 И ја сам променио мишљење, Р38 увек пре 1911, баш због калибра. Што се прецизнисти тиче, калибар је само један од чиниоца прецизности пиштоља. Све остало је много битније од калибра.
Yes He Lives in Tennessee However He is Not in Tennessee at The moment, He is in Tulsa Oklahoma at The Wanenmachers Tulsa Gun Show !!! The Largest Gun Show in The World and I Should Know I Ran into Him There and Even Got a Pic With Him and Yes He is Just Like You See on Here. Very Personable and is He Ever TALL !!!!!! Thank You Mr. Hickok for Taking The Time to Talk to Me and My Friend Paul and to Pose for The PIC !!! : )
+Kelly Dardeen Thanks. Good to meet you all. I must have run into a couple hundred of our funny looking subscribers as I cruised around there slobering over all the collectible, classic firearms.! :-)
+sgthl only in some aspects. There are many many test, inhuman though they may be, that revolutionized mechanical engineering, weaponry, and even Medicinal/Medical. The world came to many realizations very rapidly from their tinkerings. How they figured things out though is just a terrifying thought. One has to ask themselves if it was the work of genius, or in reality sheer dumb luck at another's expense.
I guess you could always say that many of their findings were out of necessity so that they could complete their task. Invention is the offspring of one's own needs, or in Hitler's case, wants.
Military is actually not forced to use FMJ. The US has never ratified the treaty on the ban of hollow points. In fact the US military is using hollow point as standard ammo for the new HK service pistols.
tommihommi1 also mir wurde von meinem Karriereberater und bei der Musterung von wiedereinsteigern erzählt das nur noch H&k p8 genutzt wird. Die p8 soll zwar auch nicht soll toll sein das sie ein sehr hohes abzugsgewicht hat aber naja sehen wir dann
+tommihommi1 German army is using the "HK USP" .Die Bundeswehr benutzt doch schon lange the HK USP (P8), auch in der Grundausbildung! Weiss nicht woher du das hast. Genauso ist das G3 schon lange ausgemustert.
I don't know about anyone else but I would love to see a Bond Arms Brown Bear California Edition with all the barrels. Love the channel. Keep on Keeping on!
I carried a P-38 when I worked for a local college campus police in the early 1970s . I never had anyone argue with me when they saw it in my holster . never had to use it on the job but people were afraid of just seeing it . best pistol I ever had .
You seem quite biased towards the 1911... and the P38 was produced until 2000, and was replaced in german military service in 2004. In total the p38 served 8 less years in military service, but it's service was nearly 2 decades more recent than the 1911.
The P 38 really caught the public interest because it was the pistol most used in Man From Uncle. The sawed down the barrel and fitted a muzzle brake to pretend that it was silenced.
Sight picture on the P-38 was one of the best compared to other WW2 service pistols.
I love how sweet Hickok sounds, when he talks about taking care of old guns. Amazing man, really.
I own both a 1911 and a P-38 (1942, by Mauser). The P-38 is so well designed, to fit in your hand, it's a true pleasure to shoot, and the de-cock safety, and the 'chambered round' indicator are great features. I'll take it over the .45.
It's a tough call. But the P38 barely wins for one reason....
MEGATRON.
TwoGun Gunnar Ahhhh memories
TwoGun Gunnar Oh yeah! I have two Megatrons recently!
In the end, I think hickok says it best: you like 9mm then the P38 is your baby. You like .45 ACP, the 1911a1 will serve you well. Neither is better. They are both amazing firearms that could hold their own against almost anything made today. Thanks for the frank discussion!
1911a1 was by far the best handgun though until the p38 came out 30 years later. And still the p38 wasn't next gen or better, just a handgun on the same level.
@@mver191 I always wondered why Germans never adopted the .45acp since the p38 only holds 8+1, the 1911 7+1. I guess since the 9mm luger had a faster speed it was more advantageous since they used 9mm in their smg
@@mver191Browning High Power is better in every way than a 1911.
Two very nice classic hand guns. Regards from Russia
I served my time as a Panzer Grenadier, my side arm was the P01, a modern version of the P38.
The P01/P38 was by far, the much better pistol and would take any 9mm ammo from ball to P+ and did not miss a beat.
By the way the Luger P08 wasn't that fragile, just expensive to make. Think difference in the late 1930's is about $10 more expensive in your money.
Who prefers the P38?
Why would you want a 1911 over the p38?
+Kha Zix i dont know ;)
+Slip Falling Brides xX yeah
I prefer the P38
a typical wehraboo.
P38 anytime of the year, that thing is soooo sexy. The 1911 is just a good tool.
+boedhaspeaks Have you been drinking?
soulis1000
Yeah, a bottle of GoodTaste ;)
+boedhaspeaks hahahahha so true.
I've got both and love both! Seriously, two of the nicest shooting pistols you'd ever find.
The Luger wasn't more fragile- it was just too expensive to make.
Luger was trash. Lets face it, People adore it just because its different
sergeant5027 absolutely not. it is a perfectly serviceable pistol used by many nations with over 10milion pieces made. it was innovative, reliable, precice and easy to shoot. the only problem is its price.
I got a p.38 and 2 p.08 lugers. Man the lugers run great i have never had them jam up or fail to work unless it was my fault. The p.08 is great but the p.38 was cheaper less work to build and a much more modern design. Between the p.08 or the p.38 I can't make up my mind which one i like more.
The P08 cost $19.80 to manufacture in WW2 dollars; the P38 cost $14.17.
@@Cesko_Plny_Fialovejch_Zmrdu I love it in bf5 cuz it feels powerfull
Both are sooo good looking and cool sidearms!
I would take the
1911 for the look & the
P38 for use
The 1911 was adopted 25 years earlier
This video would have been far more exciting if it was a 1911 vs Lockheed P-38 Lightning.
It would have been close.
+mse3700 How about the 1911 vs P-38 can opener?
+44WCF 1892 I have to admit that I had to Google that one, but sure why not.
@@Echowhiskeyone I was gonna say the P-38 Lightning vs the P-38 Can Opener
A Webley revolver video would be much appreciated! Preferably an original .455 one, not a modified .45 version. Thanks!
That 1911 is beautiful. I'd imagine everything is hard for you take apart with thise big ol mitts you have.
Loved the comparison. I have two P-38s and one M1911-A1. Both models are neat pistols. I also love watching sprint arrive in Tennessee via your channel. What a beautiful place.
Walther P38 4ever!!!
Yesssss!!
1911
@@larrywize Yep, Those type of mag releases suck.. 1911 was way ahead of time.
I do own a P38.
Steve Biloschaetzke And Beretta finally got it right.
My grandfather carried a Dobermann and it saved his life three times! Good old Dobie-o-matic.^^
My Grandpa brought home 2 P38's from Belgium. They both got stolen from his bag on his way home. It would have been passed down to me. Oh well, I have a 1911 and dad has a couple Kimbers. I love all em. :-) Love the Vid. :-)
You can get one pretty reasonable now days
My Grandpa also told me he had a bag with several pistols that was stolen on his train ride home. Too bad.
P-38 all the way. I love me some 1911, but my favorite pistol from my collection is a Spreewerke P-38 made just before the invasion of Berlin. You can tell because you can easily see all the machine marks. It's such a piece of history, a weapon of a (very rightly) dying part of German history. It was taken off of very young German officer who surrendered during the invasion of Berlin. I've never fired that pistol, but the first pistol I fired that was not a .22 was a P1.
Love the p38 I have a original one 1939 just like that
too me P38 more cool
Yes, I like the vintage look
Me like big boom gun
The P.38 has a great advantage.
You can bear it with a round in the chamber, uncocked, safety off. Nothing can happen because the firing pin is retained by the trigger safety device. To fire you only pull the trigger. And it has a little pin above the hammer that indicates whether there is a round in the chamber.
Mag swaps sucked.
I dont think many would carry a P38 today. Many still carry a 1911
Jeff Hardymon actually it isnt much different from the 1911 if you lived in that time period. soldiers wouldnt just drop the magazines on the ground anyway as they needed it later, so a mag change on the 1911 tskes about the same time. the heel release on the p.38 exists to encourage keeping the magzine and not giving the illusion of it being discardable.
@@towboaterky renamed to P1 IT was the Service Pistole in German Army in the 90'
I carry a 1980 P1 variant and while a heel release would lose in a range competition, it's feels pretty intuitive once you learn them. It's fully reliant on your support hand, however the nature of it's placement means you have positive feedback to feel when it's locked in. So from it's pointer grip stance, to it's mag release; it's really a testament to how guns then were designed around being a physical extension of the shooter. It's crazy how we went from that to Glock, modern (brick on a stick) designs.
I was told by an old Vet that the US military guys actually preferred the P38 over 1911. Watching the vid, I noticed the 1911 kicks up a lot more then the P38.
I don't doubt that a bit. Most service people do not grow up firing a 1911; they've shot revolvers only more than likely, provided they'd shot ANY sort of handgun. The 1911 takes some getting used to before one falls in love with it. Not really the time and patience in military training for that, I'd guess.
The P39 would be less recoil and easier to shoot well for somebody who has limited time on the trigger of a semi-auto pistol.
@@hickok45 I also heard the the training on the pistol, at least the P.08, were trained single handed while standing sideways to the target. It makes since considering the angle of the grips. I have a P.08 and it’s more accurate then my S&W M&P9 Performance Center.
According to Evan Marshall, there is a 1% difference in stopping power in the two cartridges when using ball ammo. So basically, no difference at all really. So Jeff Cooper was full of it when he used to say: "they all fall to hardball." Personally, I would rather have a Browning Hi-Power than either of these.
+LK Campbell Yup, 9mm vs. .45 ACP, hollow point vs. FMJ, if the gun works and the shooter is trained with that firearm, then that's all that matters in my opinion. People worry too much about the little things that only differ a percent or two.
+LK Campbell I carry .9mm because the guns are more concealable. .45 is more effective. But more capacity in .9mm, concealment ability, less recoil. Makes the 9 a good choice. And a 9mm 147 grn HST is very effective. But.. compared to the .45 HST 230 grn the .45 wins every time.
from a Kinetic energy standpoint yes,
both have ~480 Joules of kinetic energy BUT the .45 has alot more momentum and copper,lead mass to rip bigger wound channels
the momentum of the .45 is 3.8Kg-m/s compared to just 2.74Kg-m/s for the 9mm.
I think that Damage to the target is an aggregate balance between Kinetic energy and Momentum and they both have the Same kinetic energy (1:1) but the .45 has 40% (1.4:1) more momentum so 1.4/1 = 1.4 so the .45 does 40% more damage overall.
The Pope survived four rounds of 9mm, just sayin'
This is about couple of classics indeed. I think it is a matter of personal taste. Both pistols are legends among handguns.
I carried a 1911 when I was in the army I was a m60 gunner back in the mid 80s
ok
was it a good reliable sidearm
+Mike Campbell would you still carry it as a defensive firearm
+Rajbir Dhadda back then it was a very old 1911 pretty wore out I wouldn't want that one but any other 1911s are pretty good
+Mike Campbell I think I'll just carry a revolver,btw why didn't you just sneak back the 1911 it would have been a great war trophy.
Just bought one. It's marked AC 42 which means it's made by Walther in 1942... it's a bit unique though because the finish on the gun resembles the earlier pre-war models as opposed to the more crude finish on wartime productions. Apart from being fully blued and polished, it also has these really redish/brown grips which I have not seen before. It's marked with all the right stamps and as far as I can tell it is all original finish.
P38 or P1 would be my choice, primarily because of their much better sights.
Walther makes quality and its nice to see the P-38 up against a 1911.
Both are timeless designs imo
My Grandpa carried a P 38 and it SAVED his LIVE three times!
Cool
+AustrianJager Who did he use it on? It is a weapon used by the Germans in WW2 after all...
wo war er stationiert?
+THATMOFODIRT well it goes without saying. Your point?
+THATMOFODIRT maybe he served in the wehrmacht because his name is austrian 🙈😂 only because he writes englisch does not mean he is american 🙈
The primary reason why the Germans wanted to replace the Luger was cost of production. The P38 was about 3/4 of the cost of the Luger.
Funny how the 1911 looks more modern and is a lot older than the newer p38. Cool stuff, thanks for sharing.
+Stanley Yelnats It's the exposed barrel that makes the P38 look antiquated. Mechanically the P38 is actually much more modern. If I recall correctly it was the first semi-auto with a double action trigger.
Both pistols were ahead of their time. The 1911 was one of the first pistols with a slide, it may have been the first to have been adopted by any major military(Not sure). Though the fact that it's a 100 year old design that is still used and loved by many people speaks for itself.
the p38 was a milestone of technic.she has got all the spezials like modern guns.and the 1911 were still produced since 1911.this both guns are 2 of the best guns in the world ever.
S&W borrowed a lot from the P38 Walther and the 1911 to create their model 39 & 59 series in the 1950s. In fact P38 magazines fit in a S&W 39 and only need a small square hole cut into to it to function in the S&W 39.
Easier said than done, I tried that with a cheetah magazine trying to convert it to a cz83
I have a 1911 (Springfield Armory .45 ACP) and shot the P.38 and the P-1 a lot, the latter during my service within the German Army from 1994 to 1996. BOTH are great and timeless handguns, so Hickhok is absolutely right.
Good and cool vid as always.
Right at the start-NOW we know who plays Henry in Hardcore Henry! :)
Your video are so informative and really cool. I live in England and our gun controls/law are VERY strict so watching your videos is a real treat. Thank you Sir👌
P38 all day snd twice on Sunday
Thanks for talking to me at the gun show last week! I'm sure you're busy but i really enjoyed meeting you! I'll continue to watch your show at work. I'm not a dog in real life, only on the internet.
Hickok45 say hello to Brazil!
We are your fans :)
BRs brotam de todos os lugares
Brasil?
***** vc esta certo, so os bandidos podem ter armas no brasil
na verdade aqui no Brasil é possível obter armas de fogo sim. A grande questão é que é muito complicado, pois é necessário passar por uma série de documentações e tal. Nos EUA é mais simples, você só precisa chegar em uma loja de armas e comprar. Mas, assim como nos EUA, só é possível manter suas armas dentro de casa. Conseguir porte é uma das coisas mais impossíveis. Mas você pode tentar comprar uma arma em sua casa para legítima defesa.
Mas se você tiver vários interesses em armas de fogo, pode comprar uma Airsoft ou uma arma de pressão, são bem legais e recomendo.
I have a walther P1 and a 1911 both are great badass handguns with lot's of history behind them
He said, I should have put my ears on, then........"What did you say?"
I spit coffee out my nose,Thanks Hickok Great way to start the day :) - Herb
+We The People You didn't have to call him a dumbass
+Ken Pirkey Because when people like him were little, mommy & daddy didn't dust his bottom enough and teach him some manners!
You just have to over look them :)
My dad had a twin 40mm Bofor in WW2. Although he didn't carry it he fired it a lot at moving targets.
P08 vs P38 maybe someday?
No. The P38 is a direct improvement in reliability, safety and comfort. No point comparing them
The Luger has style but it’s far too finicky and intricate. The P.38 defeats the P.08 in every metric.
Of the two the p38 feels better in the hand to me. I love both but the p38 is just a really comfortable gun to shoot.
Best part of your vids, "Life is good".
Hickok, my dad carried both the 1911 sidearm and a BAR. Luckily he came home and had me! He didn't talk about his service much, but that is the way the WWII vets were. If they came home they wanted to forget and get on with "normal" life. I miss that great man that is my dad.
Didn't know that Waldo made guns back in WW2
I've been shooting the 1911 since 1974. I've never had "Trigger bite" Can't imagine how the slide would hit your hand or wrist. I have a 1938 P-38 love shooting both.
I have a ww2 1911 my grandfather gave me. it will be in my family forever.
Soldiers were first taught to shoot the 1911 with the middle finger and point with the index. However the issue of soldiers pushing the lock pin while firing caused the change to the index finger. Just a little history, love your channel.
I find the P38 to be easier to unjam in case of a bad round. The opening on top is much larger.
There are also 2 slide recoil springs (one on each side) versus a single spring in the 1911. I don't know if that's a plus or minus.
the Walther P38 as a sweet gun I know I have one from WWII
As usual, another informative video...*sniff*...about weapons that are practically impossible for me to own here is Australia, dammit!!!
The M1911A1 was still in service with Marine support units all the way up to the early '90s as it took awhile for the M9s to be issued throughout the fleet. My old GySgt and Captain carried one during Desert Storm. That old gun lasted a lot longer than 80 years. Great gun.
sgtjarhead99 A heavily modified version of the m1911 is in current use with the Navy SEALs.
Just in time to watch with my coffee.
Hmmmm the P38 is the great grandpa of the M9 Beretta. So I would say the the P38 is still in use.
Personally the 1911 was ahead of its time of ww1 but the walther p38 was ahead of its time in ww2
Now I have both. I’m happy
How about a high power vs 1911
If you remove the magazine disconnect, the Hi-Power becomes superior
I have all three WW2 classics here, the 08, the P38 and the 1911. My father brought the 08 and the P38 from WW2, I bought the 1911 new in the late 1970s. I enjoy shooting all three pistols, but I don't want to use any of them as my EDC gun. For that I have my Glock 22.
I prefer handguns with a little more history. I personally concealed carry a .54 caliber 1742 flintlock for self defense.
+Granny Torrelli - I had a golden rule about hand guns, any pistol I bought no matter how big or small I would conceal carry at a minimal once..... Then I got some black powder civil war replica revolvers from Pietta and broke my rule... Some things should just be left for fun range visits and homage to the past :P
Ok bud. You do you.
For the WW2 era the Browning Hi-Power / P-35 completely dominates both of those guns. It´s also the only one that was and still is a worldwide commercial success. The 1911 was/is a success within the US but everybody else had the Hi-Power and more than 50 countries still use it as their military sidearm.
Good old John Browning eh? A handgun for every requirement.
Just personal opinion, I like the 1911. Those old gals are just sexy platforms.
Ernest Sheffield eh the p08 is more elegant
Both pistols the P38 as well as the 1911 are superb sidearms. My personal choice from the point of a European is that the 9mm Para rounds are big enough and powerful enough. Federal Pistol Target Shooting competition is mostly restricted to 7.65mm Para and 9mm Para and never met a fellow shooter who was moaning regarding the magazine release, despite the magazin release button is the slightly faster way for dropping the empty magazine by using only one hand.
I want both
Great video guys, the classic videos are the best (my opinion). Thank you for all you and John do for us.
P38 is better than M1911
Not really
@@larrywize why?
The P38 had so many new design features. Like Hickok said the Beretta 92 still had a lot of them. It was very innovative.
How about a video how all handguns of WW2 compare to each other? Nambu Type 14, M1911, P38, C96, Modell Schnellfeuer and the TT-33?
Backtoast c96 was replaced by the Luger which was replaced by the p38 long before ww2
It was still used, since th P38 was only used by squad leaders.
Don't even bother with the type 14 it is the worst pistol of all time.
As usual, a great review of a couple of classics. Pardon my bias, P38/P1 was a great handgun but IMHO cannot compete with the 1911. I love my 1911s.
Hot damn.
What is it about the 1911 that makes it so... sexy?!
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And his name, is John M. Browning!
Envsan ew anything but attractive, more like dull
You drank too much.
P38 is very fine and Nice Gun....
Nah, those ear protection is just for show. After all those wars you fought starting from the american revolution, you're deaf af.
When you get to our age there is not much hearing to protect
Great video... Have owned both and love them both! P38's are fantastic to shoot
Such a sexy 1911. Its a shame that guy scraped up the side of it
+MsckMatt I guess the for the time the guy scraped it, it was probably the equivalent of a solider scratching the side of his Beretta today, which wouldn't be a big dealio.
P38 is sexy, but nothing beats the elegance and simplicity of the 1911. Passing flame vs. a family member you can count on.
Not to complain, but could you give the measurements also in metric. Sorry up in Canada 3/10 of an inch is hard to get my small brain around.
K thanks
+wyatt claypool Or do it yourself! 1in=2.54cm x 3/10=.762cm convert to mm is 7.62mm.
+Slayeroffoes just wanna point out that it should be .762cm, don't wanna go n confuse people now!
If you had bothered to read my comment, I arrive at .762cm and then convert to 7.62mm.
+wyatt claypool im Canadian and work more in Imperial than Metric. But im a machinist so maybe thats why xD
Considering how many firearms we have seen Hickok45 shoot, it is absolutely incredible his hearing is so good lol
I'll take the 1911.
DannoCrutch 1911 is a been there, done that firearm. although extremely effective! it's so dull and boring
Yep. Fully agree. Just got a damn soft spot for them. I suppose if I had to choose one, I'd go much more modern.
This just emphasizes how hopelessly outdated the 1911 really is. It only remains popular for irrational reasons.
Hey Hickok do you enjoy smoking pot?
+Mackbros24 haha
+Mackbros24 The elderly can particularly benefit from medical cannabis consumption, especially if you are tall like Hickok you need the anti-inflammatory effects of cannabis.
+Joseph Kroon Clay pot.
i love how every time, without fail, I'm laughing with hickok at those fun firearm moments
1911 all the way
Nope
Ђорђе Добрић p38 zauvek ;)
BFninjaGaming Zavisi 😃. 1911 je precizniji, jači, sigurniji, udobniji, ali P38 ima Metak više, dosta češći kalibar, dabl ekšn, lakši je i pouzdaniji što se tiče vremenskih uslova. Ja bi lično pre 1911, jer je za nijansu bolji što se tiče preciznosti i ima bolji kalibar, ali sve ukupno ne možeš da odabereš bolji od ova dva, jer su oba vrhunski pištolji
@@konyinaTokarev je najprecizniji od svih pištolja drugog svetskog rata zbog 7,62 x 25 kalibra koji ima jako javnu parabolu , P38 ima dekoker i najbolje nišane, nišan na 1911 je jedva upotrebljiv, Nambu ima bolji nišan od 1911.
@@dobridjordje Пре 7 година сам написао ово 😀
И ја сам променио мишљење, Р38 увек пре 1911, баш због калибра.
Што се прецизнисти тиче, калибар је само један од чиниоца прецизности пиштоља. Све остало је много битније од калибра.
Yes He Lives in Tennessee However He is Not in Tennessee at The moment, He is in Tulsa Oklahoma at The Wanenmachers Tulsa Gun Show !!! The Largest Gun Show in The World and I Should Know I Ran into Him There and Even Got a Pic With Him and Yes He is Just Like You See on Here. Very Personable and is He Ever TALL !!!!!! Thank You Mr. Hickok for Taking The Time to Talk to Me and My Friend Paul and to Pose for The PIC !!! : )
+Kelly Dardeen Thanks. Good to meet you all. I must have run into a couple hundred of our funny looking subscribers as I cruised around there slobering over all the collectible, classic firearms.! :-)
Spoiler alert. The 1911 already won the war.
And the best comment award goes to...... Mandra!!
+Madra to be honest german technology was decades ahead of everyone else but they ran out of resources.
+sgthl only in some aspects. There are many many test, inhuman though they may be, that revolutionized mechanical engineering, weaponry, and even Medicinal/Medical. The world came to many realizations very rapidly from their tinkerings. How they figured things out though is just a terrifying thought. One has to ask themselves if it was the work of genius, or in reality sheer dumb luck at another's expense.
I guess you could always say that many of their findings were out of necessity so that they could complete their task. Invention is the offspring of one's own needs, or in Hitler's case, wants.
Germany used 1911 in ww2 also you have remember the states weren't the only country making them
Love these types of videos. Thanks Hickok45!
thumbs up if you'd rather have the 1911!👍👍👍👍
p38 one of most accurate guns I've shot! smooth trigger and brake down and clean is very easy..!
1911 always wins.
Nope
+mad aboutbikes: i Agree, 1911 always wins. One of the best handguns ever.
It is the hand gun I would most like to own.
+mad aboutbikes Lets be honest the 1911 was the best pistol when it was designed, but the SAO system is outdated.
If it comes to engineering germany always wins xD
The best thing is: own both 😁
Military is actually not forced to use FMJ. The US has never ratified the treaty on the ban of hollow points. In fact the US military is using hollow point as standard ammo for the new HK service pistols.
The P38 (as the modified P1) is still part of the Basic Training in the Bundeswehr today
Wtf echt. Naja wenn das so sein sollte. Was ich nicht glaube, sehe ich das in 3 Monaten
+Yannik Mroos steht so auf Wikipedia... diw P1 wird ja erst seit 2004 durch die P8 ersetzt
tommihommi1 also mir wurde von meinem Karriereberater und bei der Musterung von wiedereinsteigern erzählt das nur noch H&k p8 genutzt wird. Die p8 soll zwar auch nicht soll toll sein das sie ein sehr hohes abzugsgewicht hat aber naja sehen wir dann
tommihommi1 vll hab ich ja Glück und krieg unter Umständen mal ne p38 in die Finger
+tommihommi1 German army is using the "HK USP" .Die Bundeswehr benutzt doch schon lange the HK USP (P8), auch in der Grundausbildung! Weiss nicht woher du das hast. Genauso ist das G3 schon lange ausgemustert.
I don't know about anyone else but I would love to see a Bond Arms Brown Bear California Edition with all the barrels. Love the channel. Keep on Keeping on!
I carried a P-38 when I worked for a local college campus police in the early 1970s . I never had anyone argue with me when they saw it in my holster . never had to use it on the job but people were afraid of just seeing it . best pistol I ever had .
You seem quite biased towards the 1911... and the P38 was produced until 2000, and was replaced in german military service in 2004. In total the p38 served 8 less years in military service, but it's service was nearly 2 decades more recent than the 1911.
0:01 I am sure I am not the only one who anticipated the “hahahaha” after realizing he was dumping the magazines.
The P 38 really caught the public interest because it was the pistol most used in Man From Uncle. The sawed down the barrel and fitted a muzzle brake to pretend that it was silenced.
I know it's unpopular, but I always thought the grip safeties are a great idea that should be employed more widely.