Holy shit I've had catatonic depression my whole life and haven't known that term until now. I thought I was absolutely crazy for not being able to get out of bed and that every movement hurt. Thank you so much.
Welcome back (kinda) miss you so much and appreciate all that you have done and continue to do. Love and appreciate everybody in the DissociaDID system! Thank you all so much 🤗
This is so incredibly validating for us. I remember having episodes of being almost completely unable to move for hours at a time, and I had no idea what had happened. I tried to look into it because that's not normal, and it shouldn't happen multiple times, but everything that came up wasn't right. We are do grateful for this video being put back up because it is something we've been looking for for ages!
Wow, you explained this so clearly when it was a really confusing concept to understand. Thank you! I have catatonia due to my bipolar disorder and BPD, but I didn’t know that it was catatonia and thank you for letting us know that it isn’t directly treatable but that the root cause needs to be treated. That opened my eyes and really helped me. Love you all, DissociaDID! ❤️
I wondered why I found it hard if not impossible to move when I'm dissociating Its awful Its like I'm stuck in the back of my brain and I'm screaming at myself to just move and I can't
To me it feels like I need to work so hard to be in my own brain again, like you said it's like I'm stuck in the back of my brain and just can't control my body anymore.
Dude y'all explained that so well. We'd go through very bad mental breakdowns in the morning and it would be so mentally draining and it would mentally hurt to move. I am not diagnosing myself, though this helped me understand that it might be because of something more serious
Just want to make a quick correction about treatment of catatonia. Benzodiazepines are the first line of choice to treat its symptoms. They are effective in about 70% of patients. I do not have DID, but I do have catatonia (not sure what it’s associated with exactly but the trigger is always emotional overload). I take lorazepam when I have an episode, usually I get some sort of warning before I go fully frozen like noticing a cool feeling thru my body, a shock, starting to stare, making repetitive movements and doing nothing else, or noticing that I am moving and thinking slower. I am not scared when it happens, but it annoys me when my husband tries to move me. I find it’s better to be alone in my safe spot when it occurs with no extra sensory stuff going on outside of me. However, others might feel different based on their needs. So those needs, do’s, and don’ts should be addressed with the people it occurs around the most prior to an episode. You don’t want your partner thinking you’re having a seizure or something and to start beating your chest and slapping your face while he’s trying to drive down the road lol.
I have functional neurologic disorder with Psychogenic non epileptic seizures. I know this seems like alot but we have the same symptoms like exactly. Fnd can cause tics seziures, dissociation, and a whole plethora of other shit, its not well known but its actually pretty common
Not to like diagnose you, but its kinda hard not to its a very specific set of points and youre making a home run, i was even on valuim for my seizure attacks
@@cownoise6041I have FND too! I thankfully haven't had a catatonic attack in a few years but I used to get them kind of often when my other chronic illnesses were worse.
I'm 55 and until now I didn't realise that this is a big problem in my life. Over and above the waking catatonic symptoms that I've experienced, I also 'dream' being catatonic... I don't know if I'm physically displaying catanonia during sleep (obviously, I'm asleep), but I am completely dissociated and catatonic in my dream in response to something I don't like in the dream, eg. being chased, falling, all the usual dream tropes. It's very weird. I know some of this is due to my chronic hyperventilation syndrome, and I've had partners who've been terrified that I stop breathing for extended periods when asleep (and often when awake too), or breath very irratically. This is the first of your videos I've watched, so I'm about to delve into this whole area, because there are so many things you've said already that spark recognition in myself. I've suffered anxiety and depression my whole life, but I KNOW I'm neurodivergent, I just don't know exactly what. My brain does some veery weird stuff. Thank you for the education and openness. It's so refreshing. x
I am so happy you are back, also I am in a better place to cope watching your videos. Back in 2019 I could watch a lot of your educational videos because my mental health was bad and my brain would start mirroring and copying some of the symptomes, which sucked, but now I am better and my brain more or less stopped doing this. It is also kinda strange watching Videos of Alters who integrated. I cant discribe the feeling. It's like watching someones legacy who doesn't exist in that way anymore, but at the same time she isn't gone... she is just different know... I probably don't make any sense. I hope I didn't offened anyone of you. Have a great time.
I can't get my head around how little info/talk there is about catatonia on a level relatable to the people that experience it. It's all very medical and aimed at health care professionals. Just to add, you can apparently become catatonic in a fairly mellow bipolar depression. I froze up just this week having gotten the bus into town for a nurse appointment, they ended up giving me a lift home with my arms stuck in the air!
Partner system just had an episode of this I think. They couldn’t move anything but their eyes. Afterwards they said they wanted to move but the willpower to do it was just out of reach so they stayed perfectly still in the same position for several minutes before gradually coming too. If I hadn’t seen this video the first time around I would have been dead scared and probably called 911 but I knew to just stay with them and tell them it was going to be okay
I am just playing it in the background, because I watched those videos before, and I want my views to matter, even if only a little bit. Comment mainly for algorithm. But also sending much love and support to Your system! Take care of yourself :)
Chloe, I'm so thankful to have found your channel again. I was aware the situation Ms. Paytas created was extremely traumatizing for you and your alters, I stopped getting notifications from YT about your channel. I honestly believed it had just been too much for you to deal with, so you stepped back for awhile. I'm over the moon that you're here and making new content. The issues you're going through. with Mr. Costas, all I can say us....there's a special place in Hell for people like him! I'll be praying for you to win this whole proceedings, including the criminal charges of Harassmen! Thank you for keeping us updated! You're not alone out there! I believe your standing up to a bully in the face of adversity makes you the strongest, toughest woman out there! GIRL POWER!
I have a sleep disorder called narcolepsy, which is also consider a neurological disease. Narcolepsy often (but not always) comes with cataplexy, a symptom that shares some similarity with the catatonic state you are talking about, especially this part : 3:20 to 3:45 . When I heard that, I felt you were describing an experience very similar to mine. Cataplexy (which is different than “catalepsy” that you mentioned later in the video) usually happens when I feel strong emotions such as laughing, anger or sadness. But it has to be an intense emotion. My main trigger is when I find something so funny that I can’t stop laughing. Then cataplexy happens: basically it’s the loss of my muscle tone. My knees would bend when walking, sometimes I would fall on the ground if I don’t find a safe space quickly to sit or lay down. If I have a drink in my hand I wouldn’t be able to keep it and it would fall. My neck would not support my head, my eyes would close and I wouldn’t be able to talk because of the muscles in my jaw/mouth. If I still feel the emotion after a few minutes of cataplexy and trying not to hurt myself, I would become paralysed. It can lasts from 30 sec. to 10 min. When I’m in that state, I remain conscious of everything around me; I can feel and hear everything, but I cannot communicate. People who don’t know that I have this medical condition, would often think I passed out.
I am dissociating right now and it is so hard because it prevents me from expressing and letting go of my emotions. I feel all bottled up and can never let go because when I try to, I just dissociate. I sometimes dissociate so much I stop moving and get stuck in weird positions midway through doing things.
i remember being v unwell and not being able to get up,get out of bed,get dressed eat,walk,concentrate work things out respond etc,and inside i was broken and sobbing....✌🏼
I got stuck walking out of my door this morning, 2 hours trapped in a painful position. All I could think was “just move, stop being so dramatic, so useless”
Wait this is what's wrong with some of us? I couldn't figure out why one of us can't move anything from the waist down and one of us can't move anything in his right halve
I have dissociative seizures. In the us theyre called PNES (psychogentic nonepileptic seizures) they got to be so debilitating that i had to get seen for them. It took me almost a year to properly get diagnosed with it. I would go catatonic sometimes for hours. I was anle to feel when it came on though so that definitely helped. I would start to get so tired all of a sudden. Its like my body would start to shut down. I wouldnt be able to move or speak no matter what was happening. (It got to the point that i had the seizures daily getting on the public nus going to my "home". They were so bad i had to be dragged on the bus ny a friend who was always with me) i finally told my primary care dr. She referred me to a neurologist. They did a regular eeg, a 8 hour eeg, a sleep test (i thought it was narcolepsy cause i would crash around high emotions. I now see that it was an alter fronting), a 24 hour eeg and 2 multi day eeg. All the tests came back normal. The final multi day eeg i was doing a stress test and it triggered me so bad that i had an episode. (It was several alters negatively triggered to the front at 1 time.) The nurse who gave me the stress test noticed the catatonia and it was recorded. The eeg came back normal so the neurologist diagnosed me with the PNES. when doing research i found out that another name for these episodes was dissociative seizures and it was a common symptom of DID. I was already suspecting i had DID at the time but i didnt have good therapy like i do now.
So I dont experience full catatonia but the bipolar part, for me, is spot on. I always thought I was dissociated when I'm depressed and continually stare into space. Are the two related or am I misunderstanding?
Holy shit I've had catatonic depression my whole life and haven't known that term until now. I thought I was absolutely crazy for not being able to get out of bed and that every movement hurt. Thank you so much.
Welcome back (kinda) miss you so much and appreciate all that you have done and continue to do. Love and appreciate everybody in the DissociaDID system! Thank you all so much 🤗
This is so incredibly validating for us. I remember having episodes of being almost completely unable to move for hours at a time, and I had no idea what had happened. I tried to look into it because that's not normal, and it shouldn't happen multiple times, but everything that came up wasn't right. We are do grateful for this video being put back up because it is something we've been looking for for ages!
Wow, you explained this so clearly when it was a really confusing concept to understand. Thank you! I have catatonia due to my bipolar disorder and BPD, but I didn’t know that it was catatonia and thank you for letting us know that it isn’t directly treatable but that the root cause needs to be treated. That opened my eyes and really helped me. Love you all, DissociaDID! ❤️
I wondered why I found it hard if not impossible to move when I'm dissociating
Its awful
Its like I'm stuck in the back of my brain and I'm screaming at myself to just move and I can't
To me it feels like I need to work so hard to be in my own brain again, like you said it's like I'm stuck in the back of my brain and just can't control my body anymore.
Silver lining of having to reupload so many videos: I'm enjoying rewatching your older content! 🤗
Dude y'all explained that so well. We'd go through very bad mental breakdowns in the morning and it would be so mentally draining and it would mentally hurt to move. I am not diagnosing myself, though this helped me understand that it might be because of something more serious
I'm so happy you guys are re uploading everything
Just want to make a quick correction about treatment of catatonia. Benzodiazepines are the first line of choice to treat its symptoms. They are effective in about 70% of patients. I do not have DID, but I do have catatonia (not sure what it’s associated with exactly but the trigger is always emotional overload). I take lorazepam when I have an episode, usually I get some sort of warning before I go fully frozen like noticing a cool feeling thru my body, a shock, starting to stare, making repetitive movements and doing nothing else, or noticing that I am moving and thinking slower. I am not scared when it happens, but it annoys me when my husband tries to move me. I find it’s better to be alone in my safe spot when it occurs with no extra sensory stuff going on outside of me. However, others might feel different based on their needs. So those needs, do’s, and don’ts should be addressed with the people it occurs around the most prior to an episode. You don’t want your partner thinking you’re having a seizure or something and to start beating your chest and slapping your face while he’s trying to drive down the road lol.
I have functional neurologic disorder with Psychogenic non epileptic seizures. I know this seems like alot but we have the same symptoms like exactly. Fnd can cause tics seziures, dissociation, and a whole plethora of other shit, its not well known but its actually pretty common
Not to like diagnose you, but its kinda hard not to its a very specific set of points and youre making a home run, i was even on valuim for my seizure attacks
@@cownoise6041I have FND too! I thankfully haven't had a catatonic attack in a few years but I used to get them kind of often when my other chronic illnesses were worse.
Glad to see these are going back up
I'm 55 and until now I didn't realise that this is a big problem in my life. Over and above the waking catatonic symptoms that I've experienced, I also 'dream' being catatonic... I don't know if I'm physically displaying catanonia during sleep (obviously, I'm asleep), but I am completely dissociated and catatonic in my dream in response to something I don't like in the dream, eg. being chased, falling, all the usual dream tropes. It's very weird. I know some of this is due to my chronic hyperventilation syndrome, and I've had partners who've been terrified that I stop breathing for extended periods when asleep (and often when awake too), or breath very irratically. This is the first of your videos I've watched, so I'm about to delve into this whole area, because there are so many things you've said already that spark recognition in myself. I've suffered anxiety and depression my whole life, but I KNOW I'm neurodivergent, I just don't know exactly what. My brain does some veery weird stuff. Thank you for the education and openness. It's so refreshing. x
I am so happy you are back, also I am in a better place to cope watching your videos. Back in 2019 I could watch a lot of your educational videos because my mental health was bad and my brain would start mirroring and copying some of the symptomes, which sucked, but now I am better and my brain more or less stopped doing this.
It is also kinda strange watching Videos of Alters who integrated. I cant discribe the feeling. It's like watching someones legacy who doesn't exist in that way anymore, but at the same time she isn't gone... she is just different know... I probably don't make any sense. I hope I didn't offened anyone of you. Have a great time.
I can't get my head around how little info/talk there is about catatonia on a level relatable to the people that experience it. It's all very medical and aimed at health care professionals. Just to add, you can apparently become catatonic in a fairly mellow bipolar depression. I froze up just this week having gotten the bus into town for a nurse appointment, they ended up giving me a lift home with my arms stuck in the air!
Partner system just had an episode of this I think. They couldn’t move anything but their eyes. Afterwards they said they wanted to move but the willpower to do it was just out of reach so they stayed perfectly still in the same position for several minutes before gradually coming too. If I hadn’t seen this video the first time around I would have been dead scared and probably called 911 but I knew to just stay with them and tell them it was going to be okay
I am just playing it in the background, because I watched those videos before, and I want my views to matter, even if only a little bit.
Comment mainly for algorithm.
But also sending much love and support to Your system! Take care of yourself :)
Chloe,
I'm so thankful to have found your channel again. I was aware the situation Ms. Paytas created was extremely traumatizing for you and your alters,
I stopped getting notifications from YT about your channel.
I honestly believed it had just been too much for you to deal with, so you stepped back for awhile.
I'm over the moon that you're here and making new content.
The issues you're going through. with Mr. Costas, all I can say us....there's a special place in Hell for people like him!
I'll be praying for you to win this whole proceedings, including the criminal charges of Harassmen!
Thank you for keeping us updated!
You're not alone out there! I believe your standing up to a bully in the face of adversity makes you the strongest, toughest woman out there! GIRL POWER!
Thank you for making these videos ♡ I'm learning a lot about this condition thanks to you
I'm glad you're able to republish older vids you guys are the best
I love these videos DID fascinates me, so I want to know more about it this helps understand
I have a sleep disorder called narcolepsy, which is also consider a neurological disease. Narcolepsy often (but not always) comes with cataplexy, a symptom that shares some similarity with the catatonic state you are talking about, especially this part : 3:20 to 3:45 . When I heard that, I felt you were describing an experience very similar to mine.
Cataplexy (which is different than “catalepsy” that you mentioned later in the video) usually happens when I feel strong emotions such as laughing, anger or sadness. But it has to be an intense emotion. My main trigger is when I find something so funny that I can’t stop laughing. Then cataplexy happens: basically it’s the loss of my muscle tone. My knees would bend when walking, sometimes I would fall on the ground if I don’t find a safe space quickly to sit or lay down. If I have a drink in my hand I wouldn’t be able to keep it and it would fall. My neck would not support my head, my eyes would close and I wouldn’t be able to talk because of the muscles in my jaw/mouth.
If I still feel the emotion after a few minutes of cataplexy and trying not to hurt myself, I would become paralysed. It can lasts from 30 sec. to 10 min. When I’m in that state, I remain conscious of everything around me; I can feel and hear everything, but I cannot communicate. People who don’t know that I have this medical condition, would often think I passed out.
I am dissociating right now and it is so hard because it prevents me from expressing and letting go of my emotions. I feel all bottled up and can never let go because when I try to, I just dissociate. I sometimes dissociate so much I stop moving and get stuck in weird positions midway through doing things.
So so so excited these videos are back, it's a good refresher for me learning things I've heard about before
This is so helpful and reassuring, thankyou so much for all the information!
It is nice to see these videos again. As always, take care of yourselves.
Glad that your awesome content is back 🥰
I finally know whats happening to me i want to cry
We went catatonic in the middle of dance class once lol
Thanks for sharing ❤ my son is going through this very thing now
I don’t want to be mentally ill anymore. I’m tired.
Thank you so much for making this, I've been trying to figure out what was happening to me and this really really helps.
Happy to see you reupload I interpert it is as a step to new video uploads?
Fingers crossed
Lots of love and welcome back ❤️
You are awesome!! Great to have you back!
i remember being v unwell and not being able to get up,get out of bed,get dressed eat,walk,concentrate work things out respond etc,and inside i was broken and sobbing....✌🏼
I thought all of this was in my head... It's actually a thing..
thank you so much. I now know I'm not in my head, it's actually a real thing.
Omg I’m in love with your makeup❤
TH-cams MVP we love you 🍵💚
that‘s what that is? i once couldn‘t react to my friends or move at all. it was so scary. thank you so much!
Glad to see you guys again
I went into flop mode and was catatonic for quite some time. I thought I was dieing.
To every latine whatching this video: I also thought of La Chiripiorca of El Chavo del 8
I got stuck walking out of my door this morning, 2 hours trapped in a painful position. All I could think was “just move, stop being so dramatic, so useless”
Wait this is what's wrong with some of us? I couldn't figure out why one of us can't move anything from the waist down and one of us can't move anything in his right halve
I miss watching these kinds of videos
Thanks for your help ❤❤❤❤
I remember the merch first coming out🥺
I have dissociative seizures. In the us theyre called PNES (psychogentic nonepileptic seizures) they got to be so debilitating that i had to get seen for them. It took me almost a year to properly get diagnosed with it. I would go catatonic sometimes for hours. I was anle to feel when it came on though so that definitely helped. I would start to get so tired all of a sudden. Its like my body would start to shut down. I wouldnt be able to move or speak no matter what was happening. (It got to the point that i had the seizures daily getting on the public nus going to my "home". They were so bad i had to be dragged on the bus ny a friend who was always with me) i finally told my primary care dr. She referred me to a neurologist. They did a regular eeg, a 8 hour eeg, a sleep test (i thought it was narcolepsy cause i would crash around high emotions. I now see that it was an alter fronting), a 24 hour eeg and 2 multi day eeg. All the tests came back normal. The final multi day eeg i was doing a stress test and it triggered me so bad that i had an episode. (It was several alters negatively triggered to the front at 1 time.) The nurse who gave me the stress test noticed the catatonia and it was recorded. The eeg came back normal so the neurologist diagnosed me with the PNES. when doing research i found out that another name for these episodes was dissociative seizures and it was a common symptom of DID. I was already suspecting i had DID at the time but i didnt have good therapy like i do now.
I miss y'all so much
Love seeing videos I haven't seen before ❤️🖤
Great video, thank you ❤️
The algorithm is working
So I dont experience full catatonia but the bipolar part, for me, is spot on. I always thought I was dissociated when I'm depressed and continually stare into space. Are the two related or am I misunderstanding?
YAY MORE VIDEOS ARE BACK
I had read that catatonia is treated with benzodiaipines (sp?)
Hi missed these
It’s like physical dissociation
Same face but y’all look 100% different. It’s crazy.
Ive had catatonic dissociation
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I am first! Yay! Hello Chloe you look absolutely gorgeous. Love the eye makeup!
Is this a new video or an old one?
It's an old one I believe
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Dose that mean you beat the copyright claims in court now
Its AWFUL my son in out of hospital 8 months in out of hospital had to go to court for emergency ECT to bring him out of this MEMORY LOSS
First? Maybe?
You would make a good dinosaur /pos
Hi missed these
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