About Fallen Angels and Giants - Rick Renner

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  • @brendajones7018
    @brendajones7018 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you, Mr. Renner, for your love of God's word! I appreciate you Sir.

  • @constantinesal732
    @constantinesal732 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The sources are so many and so reliable, so much that this subject of fallen angels and giants cannot and should not be denied nor ignored. A great reminder of how serious God is about sin👍🏻💯

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      Some key questions are:
      What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles?
      What’s your usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants”?
      Do those usages agree?

    • @dale9440
      @dale9440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We war not against flesh and blood!

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dale9440Indeed, and yet people who make their living off of selling un-biblical neo-theo sci-fi tall-tales to Christians click bait with fear-porn. Example: Stephen Quayle (the plagiarist) claims that Christians will need to fight against Nephilim.
      Also, fascinatingly, I’ve asked those key questions to dozens and dozens (and dozens) of people who go on and on (and on) about “giants” and literally zero have replied.

    • @tmcge3325
      @tmcge3325 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Read Genesis chapter 6.....the Lord is talking about menn not angels. What did Jesus say about angels? They don't marry! Matthew 22:30 & Mark 12:25 kjv

    • @jackfrost2978
      @jackfrost2978 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tmcge3325 In Hebrew they are sons of God. This phrase is not used for humans. In regard for Matthew and Mark. They are like angels in heaven. Does not limit the possibility or capability. It is a limit on how things are ordered. This is also why the angels who sinned are no longer in heaven, no longer on earth. They are in the deepest parts of the pit of hell per Jude 6 and 2 Peter 2: 4-5. Goliath was not unique as a giant. We know who and when in the catholic church. Presented the Sethite view. They said it was because they did not want to consider what the bible says. What is rarely said. Is that the Sethite view is combinations of what Genesis 6 actually says, and a gnostic teaching about Seth having children with a goddess, which produced the nephilim.
      The whole reason for showing all the commentary throughout generations. Is to show this is the truth of the Bible. As difficult as it is for those who were taught the corrupt interpretations.
      Satan sinned. Per Revelation. He may have caused 1/3 of the angels to fall with him. Per Exodus 12: 12. The gods of Egypt are judged. Per Psalm 82: 6-7 we see gods which is the same term used in Revelation 6. Sons of God. It helps if you also check in Hebrew.
      Childrens church teachings have done great harm to modern Biblical understanding. i have watched many church elders reject a variety of things in the Bible due to their desire to fall back on the simplified teachings they received as children.

  • @renepet52
    @renepet52 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A Teaching I was waiting for for the past 16 years....Praise God💚

  • @elijahjean980
    @elijahjean980 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This teaching is absolutely amazing, im constantly in awe and utter amazement of the Word of god. Thx Pastor Rick, and thank you to all of your family and staff that help support you and your ministry , you are all a mighty blessing to my life;)

    • @RennerMinistries
      @RennerMinistries  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are so welcome, Elijah! Glad to know you are enjoying these programs. Keep watching and God bless you! -Team Renner

  • @Barbara-mz7jb
    @Barbara-mz7jb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your welcome Pastor Rick we are believing
    “Paid in Full” calling in resources from the North the South the East and the West. Because of you, we are truly blessed.
    Grateful
    Barbara A James

  • @davidseguin8447
    @davidseguin8447 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for these awesome programs thanks to your staff did amazing job putting this together

    • @RennerMinistries
      @RennerMinistries  ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad to know you are enjoying them! Thanks for your kind comment. We have an amazing team! -Team Renner

  • @shanegabbard6861
    @shanegabbard6861 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gods word over scientists every time! You can’t go wrong!

  • @davidseguin8447
    @davidseguin8447 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks 🙏 for your prayers Rick Gods blessings upon everyone

  • @yinchingleung7766
    @yinchingleung7766 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    helpful, teaches us to be humble, draws us to the Lord.

  • @danielgill5618
    @danielgill5618 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m blessed with this teaching

  • @elizabethjarrett3465
    @elizabethjarrett3465 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great teaching

  • @livingtheZoelife888
    @livingtheZoelife888 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The funny thing is....and it begs to question, how did the giant baby come out of the small human womb? 9 and 10lb babies are difficult labors enough. I am immensely enjoying the teachings! It's got me thinking on good things and making connections with the Word of God!!! Blessings to you Rick, your team and family!!!!

    • @apvideos4727
      @apvideos4727 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe they are born normal size but never stop growing

    • @elizabethann8228
      @elizabethann8228 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was having the same question. Glad I’m not the only one. 😅 Maybe they start out tiny … I’d like to think so for those women’s sake.

  • @ekobiotix4779
    @ekobiotix4779 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m looking forward to getting this series, along with your series on the seven churches; both are excellent expositions.
    I’ve been enriched by your ministry and encouraged to go deeper into my relationship with YHWH.
    Thank you for being a lighthouse in these challenging times and world gone crazy.
    I pray for God’s blessing and providence will continue to increase, as you consistently provide teaching that stirs up an excitement for a more intimate understanding of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    • @RennerMinistries
      @RennerMinistries  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your kind, thoughtful comment! Keep watching! God bless you! -Team Renner

    • @alethapainter3126
      @alethapainter3126 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have watched and listened to you over many many years am soooo glad for the Victory channel and Kenneth Copeland who introduced your teachings many years ago. I am 80 years old and enjoy all your lessons. 😊

  • @Romans5girl
    @Romans5girl ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank-you so much for teaching this series Pastor Renner. I'm enjoying and learning so much.

  • @annamiller6153
    @annamiller6153 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing ! Thank you very much!

  • @annjoyce579
    @annjoyce579 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good work, timely!

  • @davidseguin8447
    @davidseguin8447 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Rick for sharing this truth with us

  • @davidseguin8447
    @davidseguin8447 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this insight

  • @churchofallnations2017
    @churchofallnations2017 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Lord

  • @hemantabesra4151
    @hemantabesra4151 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    JOY JISU MARANG 🙏❤️🙏

  • @vivianmarshall
    @vivianmarshall ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you .
    What a blessing.

  • @vanderwaltswart536
    @vanderwaltswart536 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just love this teaching

    • @awatchman-um7vy
      @awatchman-um7vy ปีที่แล้ว

      This is because like the false teacher in this video, you too are completely Biblically illiterate. Repent!

  • @lambchop9020
    @lambchop9020 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you. ❤

    • @RennerMinistries
      @RennerMinistries  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome, Lamb Chop! -Team Renner

  • @ricknheidipoteat4901
    @ricknheidipoteat4901 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much all your teachings, I value your wisdom and was SO excited when I saw your email announcement about this series!!!
    I received my 1st deliverance 12/18/20 and immediately I started getting words from the Lord, mostly things I didn't have any idea what they meant. On 12/27/20 He spoke "spirit of Nephilim" to me. I have been reading bible since 2007 but did not know this word, Nephilim. What is your opinion of a "spirit of Nephilim"? Blessings- Heidi

    • @victoriagrahm3915
      @victoriagrahm3915 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you enjoy these teaching then also listen to Timothy Alberino Birthright Series. He gets so deep into all this. Also LA Marzulli, Tom Horn. Billy Crone, Trust me you will be blown away by that “Birthright” series. 9 of them. God Bless

  • @tlctilljcb
    @tlctilljcb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting.

  • @terryburtis2412
    @terryburtis2412 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I Love this subject and studied it for years , even back when most Church going people said I was wasting my time, Thanks for ringing my memory and giving me even more to thank on .

    • @lauralowery9303
      @lauralowery9303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Where did you find the information to study it?

    • @awatchman-um7vy
      @awatchman-um7vy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lauralowery9303 ,...What is wrong with you? I just told you this guy is a false teacher. He is teaching you 100% unbiblical nonsense. Repent!

  • @Susan-e2n
    @Susan-e2n ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful thank you❤

  • @flowergirl6035
    @flowergirl6035 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the series

  • @lauralowery9303
    @lauralowery9303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why was I never taught this?! Why isn't Enoch's book in the Bible?
    Thank you so much for bringing this to my awareness! I feel like a dry sponge that just found water.
    I don't even know where I would go to study this. I've not seen books on this in the library.
    Having been a child raised in a broken and confused home, it's taken me decades to get where I am. Many churches and denominations and never got this information.
    Thank you so very much for shining the light on this subject!❤

    • @joecantello4022
      @joecantello4022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Enoch was believed to be written around 200 B.C. in Greek not Hebrew, and that is one of the reasons it is not considered canonical and part of inspired Scripture.

    • @awatchman-um7vy
      @awatchman-um7vy ปีที่แล้ว

      You are being deceived. This is all false teaching from one who does not at all understand the Bible. The book of enoch is 100% false manmade fraud. It like the guy in this video has nothing to do with the God nor the Christianity of the Bible.
      What you have just found is pure poison.

    • @awatchman-um7vy
      @awatchman-um7vy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joecantello4022 ,....The reason the fake manmade book of enoch is not in the Bible is because it is nothing but fake manmade science fiction fantasy. It is no different than the fake manmade book of mormon.

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One reason 1 Enoch isn't in the Bible is that it's Bible contradicting folklore from millennia after the Torah, see the book, "In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch."

    • @awatchman-um7vy
      @awatchman-um7vy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KenAmmi-Shalom ,...Correct, the fake manmade book of enoch 100% contradicts the Bible. Those who do not understand this do not at all understand the Bible.

  • @pr.ruirebelo1287
    @pr.ruirebelo1287 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very , Very precise important information; reliable too. Amém!

    • @awatchman-um7vy
      @awatchman-um7vy ปีที่แล้ว

      This was/is all 100% false unbiblical nonsense that is only believe by those who are completely Biblically illiterate. Repent!

  • @monicaswavel6074
    @monicaswavel6074 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you seen the pictures of islands and rocks that look like actual giant animals and people? Pretty amazing.

    • @suej9329
      @suej9329 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mud Fossil University.👍🏻😇

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it's amazing what happens when you take photos only from very specific angles and don't reveal the locations so no one can double check, etc.

    • @dianabailey270
      @dianabailey270 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where can I find that information? I would really like to see it all. Thanks! Diana

    • @monicaswavel6074
      @monicaswavel6074 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dianabailey270 you can Google it and TH-cam it. Hopefully its still available

  • @TMJ63
    @TMJ63 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love it

  • @swtnzfoods8420
    @swtnzfoods8420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amen and Amen!!!❤

  • @dianabailey270
    @dianabailey270 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How was it possible for the giants to mate with normal women , and those women giving birth to giants? Wouldn’t that have killed the women? How could their bodies survive?? Please do a teaching on that. Thanks

  • @josemendez7433
    @josemendez7433 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did God created the watchers or “ sons of God” with the capacity to reproduce or have the seed to reproduce? How did they impregnate the women?

  • @LynchyMobbin
    @LynchyMobbin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Based on the story of babel in the book of Enoch , it said God turned some of the people into apes because they said they were gonna go up into heaven and take God off his throne and sit in it , so I’m wondering if the people turned into apes are now what we call big foot , I think this is very possible based on the evidence

  • @MichaelMooney-ci4cc
    @MichaelMooney-ci4cc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do fallen angels procreate with earth woman? How?

  • @tuckersellers7421
    @tuckersellers7421 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of technology did they bring with them? Talking about the falling angels.

  • @swim2win86
    @swim2win86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought angels did not marry per Mark 12:25. How could these sons of God be angels? I’m confused.

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Friend, you're confused because you missed Jesus' qualifying terms. It was not about, "angels did not marry" generically, but very specifically about, "the angels which are in heaven" ergo, the loyal ones. That's why those who did marry are considered sinners, having "left their first estate" as Jude put it.
      The original, traditional, and majority view among the earliest Jewish and Christians commentators, starting in BC days, was the “Angel view” as I proved in my book, “On the Genesis 6 Affair’s Sons of God: Angels or Not?: A Survey of Early Jewish and Christian Commentaries Including Notes on Giants and the Nephilim.”

  • @peterstrand3425
    @peterstrand3425 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can I find this lesson in right order??? From 1 - 15

  • @sherricrauswell2748
    @sherricrauswell2748 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which copy of The Book of Enoch would you recommend?

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      1 Enoch is Bible contradicting folklore from millennia after the Torah, see the book, "In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch."

  • @fakestreamedia5309
    @fakestreamedia5309 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did giants appear after the flood ?

  • @Alex-Trejo
    @Alex-Trejo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    First of all, Angels are not human beings. They cannot impregnate mortal women. Do you really think, that the all knowing God, created Angels without him knowing that they had the capacity to have human offsprings. For the sake of argument, let just say that God did created them with that capacity. For what purpose would he do that?

    • @RennerMinistries
      @RennerMinistries  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are praying for you and highly encourage you to consider reaching out to our prayer team so we can connect with you personally. Give us a call at 1.800.742.5593 or email social@renner.org. We’d love to hear from you. -Team Renner

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What makes you assert, "Angels...cannot impregnate mortal women"?
      "the all knowing God, created Angels...knowing that they had the capacity to have human offsprings": what of it?
      As for, "For what purpose would he do that?": I will answer that after you answer why God put the forbidden tree in the Garden.

    • @Alex-Trejo
      @Alex-Trejo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KenAmmi-Shalom In my opinion, since Adam & Eve were given free will to do wrong or do right. That free will was invalid had they not been given the ability to test it. God planted the tree of knowledge of Good & Evil as means by which Adam and Eve's free will could be tested. They failed, and instead of following God's command, they chose to trust in someone other than God.

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Alex-Trejo In my opinion, since Angels were given free will to do wrong or do right. That free will was invalid had they not been given the ability to test it. God made them anatomically compatible with humans as means by which Angels' free will could be tested. They failed, and instead of following God's command, they chose to trust in someone other than God.

    • @Alex-Trejo
      @Alex-Trejo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KenAmmi-Shalom The Angels didn't need a compatible penis to test their free will against sin. 😂 Pride and wanted to be like God was enough for Lucifer and 1/3 of the angels to be casted out of heaven. Angels are not sexual beings, they are spirit beings. Angelkind cannot reproduce with mankind. In fact it goes against a vital law that God created at the very beginning of Genesis that things would reproduce after their own kind. Angels are one kind, animals are one kind and people, human beings are another kind.

  • @karenyounce1192
    @karenyounce1192 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🙏❤️

  • @sherihartman8653
    @sherihartman8653 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, I have wondered if we can explain to family members/loved ones, why we need to know this? I see them looking at me like I'm walking on thin ice. They ask why I want to know this even if it really can be proven.

    • @RennerMinistries
      @RennerMinistries  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great question. Simply put, it's a fascinating topic and Jesus thought enough about it to say that before His 2nd coming, the days would be like that of Noah's. So understanding the days leading up to and after the flood are important. -Team Renner

    • @jgodfrey7283
      @jgodfrey7283 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would add that knowing this is great for apologetics. For a lot of people the story of the Flood is a stumbling block. They say, “why would a loving God kill everything?” Or I have heard them say, “the Old Testament God was angry and evil because he killed everyone. This is the explanation. This angel rebellion was an act of war on God and an attempt to stop the Messiah from being born. God had to take action.

  • @brendaperrin8099
    @brendaperrin8099 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pastor Rick I seen a Woman so tall n big she didn't look human ,she look like giant she gave me a fright she was huge big n very very big n tall giant woman

  • @janinewiens7587
    @janinewiens7587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good morning from Paraguay. Amazing what I heard learned today. I have questions, Giants were only male?, and these Giants on earth, do they gave birth to more Giants and Monsters?
    I understand, angels were male.
    Blessings!

    • @edinnorthcarolina--ovelhog5786
      @edinnorthcarolina--ovelhog5786 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Giants were apparently only male. I would suggest that you follow the work of Tim Alberino. He works often in Peru. Salud!

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      Angels are described as looking just like human males and performing physical actions and without any indication that such isn’t their ontology.

    • @mfenderson2714
      @mfenderson2714 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that the understanding is the angels were male but their offspring i.e. the giants may not have also been male but then again who knows what kinds of chromosomes they have. When you look at ancient greek mythology there were a few female goddesses and this even was supposed to explain in part the basis of this mythology being based on real people. So idk but it is true in the Bible that angels themselves are also perceived or in the form of a man/male gender.

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mfenderson2714 Well said. You might be interested in my article "Demons Ex Machina: What Are Demons?"

  • @sarahwendl6553
    @sarahwendl6553 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were these angels that bred with women the same as the first 200 you mentioned that betrayed God way before? When you mentioned 200 angels sided with Satan I got to wondering why it seems there are way more demons today.. or are there?😆. I’ll listen again lol! Thanks for the wonderful teaching!

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      The specific 200 number comes from 1 Enoch which is Bible contradicting folklore from millennia after the Torah, see the book, "In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch."

  • @sheilaregister4128
    @sheilaregister4128 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn’t know angels were able to reproduce.

  • @livingecosmart561
    @livingecosmart561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Were these fallen angels part of the 1/3 that were corrupted and thrown out of heaven along with Lucifer?

    • @suej9329
      @suej9329 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that’s who they were.

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, that's a bit tricky: there's only a one-time fall/sin of Angels in the Bible and they were incarcerated. Yet, Rev 9 symbolizes them being released and they then lose a heavenly war well, they're not mentioned again and Satan is cast to Earth permanently.

  • @davidseguin8447
    @davidseguin8447 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi from north industry Ohio home group

  • @jongh.8060
    @jongh.8060 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir,please kindly explain about the,"sons,"of God who intermarried with women.

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      Job 38:7, as one example, shows us that “sons of God” can refer to non-human beings (which the LXX has as “Angelos”).
      Jude and 2 Peter 2 combined place the one-time sin of Angels to pre-flood days and correlate it to sexual sin.
      The original, traditional, and majority view among the earliest Jewish and Christians commentators, starting in BC days, was the “Angel view” as I proved in my book, “On the Genesis 6 Affair’s Sons of God: Angels or Not?: A Survey of Early Jewish and Christian Commentaries Including Notes on Giants and the Nephilim.”

    • @jongh.8060
      @jongh.8060 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KenAmmi-Shalom Thank you sir,may God's be with you always.

  • @phearlesspharaoh3697
    @phearlesspharaoh3697 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do not believe those rocks are the ark… I believe the Ark was dismantled and the wood repurposed, but that’s just me. However I’m glad you’re talking about the Nephilim. It’s so important to know! 😎

    • @djrackley
      @djrackley ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you should probably watch the previous videos in this series. You'll find out that there are rooms under this area in a mudslide where the ark was found. Man-made rooms. I'm going to just say it. This is the ark that Noah built. Why do I say that? Because of the verse that says that Noah was to "Make yourself an ark of gofer-wood; you are to make the ark with rooms and cover it with pitch both outside and inside." - Genesis 6:14 (CJB) Covered with pitch both inside and out suggests that God wanted this thing to survive the ages and weather. He wanted it found toward the end of the ages as a proof to Bible critics that what was written is HISTORY, not mythology.

    • @sandiekesler7934
      @sandiekesler7934 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also LA Marzulli and others have TH-cam videos on the “Time Before” which go into the “cavemen” explanations, The Nephilim, there is a lot of information on this topic in TH-cam. Fascinating and answers so many questions!

    • @sandiekesler7934
      @sandiekesler7934 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even the home of Noah is nearby and the anchor stones are there! It’s remarkable. The grave of Noah’s wife they believe they’ve found.astounding but the locals know it, and it is referred to as Noah’s

  • @beutelm1
    @beutelm1 ปีที่แล้ว

    “If” that is “the” Ark….and it’s high up as you show…..why is it buried ? Who buried it ? How ? Why ?
    Obviously wasn’t buried by the flood.

  • @michaelszczys8316
    @michaelszczys8316 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't believe it was ' fallen ' angels that mated with women, at least not previously fallen. Rather Holy Watcher angels that were still loyal to God and in charge of watching over people of the earth. They were fine until Satan enticed them to lust after the women and desire to have for themselves. Also he enticed the WOMEN to lure the angels and cause them to fall from their position at that point.
    It seems many of these church fathers held the same view.

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm pretty okay with that view. The original, traditional, and majority view among the earliest Jewish and Christians commentators, starting in BC days, was the “Angel view” as I proved in my book, “On the Genesis 6 Affair’s Sons of God: Angels or Not?: A Survey of Early Jewish and Christian Commentaries Including Notes on Giants and the Nephilim.”

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KenAmmi-Shalom first time I seriously read Genesis 6 as a teen I understood it as ' angels ' and human women getting together and begetting ' giants ' or children that grew to be gigantic.
      I also took the ' mighty men which were of old ' to be where all the Greek God stories came from.
      Good thing I was reading King James Bible which said ' giants ' or I wouldn't have known what the heck ' nephilim ' were.

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelszczys8316 That's interesting because I will submit to you that you also don't know what the heck "giants" were.
      But let's check with these key questions:
      What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles?
      What’s your usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants”?
      Do those usages agree?
      Now, I got a hint as to your usage since you wrote, "grew to be gigantic" (whatever that means) so focus on the English Bible's usage and whether your usage agrees.

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KenAmmi-Shalom all I know is that when I first read that I understood it to mean people much bigger than NBA basketball players.
      I had already heard plenty of stories about ' Greek gods ' and understood it as that was where all the Greek God stories and legends came from.
      Simple as that.
      Almost 50 years ago.
      Over the years when I read of finding huge skeletons and mummies it fit together just fine as to where they came from.

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@michaelszczys8316 Actually, that’s a very good lesson to learn since you noted, “all I know is” and that it’s, “when I first read that.”
      Thus, please pay attention to someone who has familiarized himself with over two millennias worth of relevant data. Also, don’t go by the first thing you thought of when you read one vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word and especially not before you understand it’s usage: which differs from your usage--so, BTW, it’s correct and you’re mistaken ;o)
      Ergo, “giants” in the Bible has utterly nothing whatsoever to do with, “people much bigger” (with “much” being as vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage as “giants”) or, “huge skeletons” (with “huge” being as vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage as “giants” or “much”).

  • @gregoryalancutts2398
    @gregoryalancutts2398 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen it. Speechless,I am not able to save any like Noah just saves the 8 . 1 billions soul will take angels to fight these creatures. Pure Pandamonium. I am not afraid of them .They are afraid of Me. The Spirit and the Bride says come.

    • @awatchman-um7vy
      @awatchman-um7vy ปีที่แล้ว

      You have spoken absolute unbiblical nonsense. Repent!

  • @VeronicaJones58
    @VeronicaJones58 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @beutelm1
    @beutelm1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok slow down….all these “non” biblical commentators are just parroting the Biblical record. Enough. It’s boring. Go back to the Bible and what scripture says.

    • @cynthiabehr1870
      @cynthiabehr1870 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Who are you referring to? All these commentators? Dr. Renner is referencing everything to scripture verses. Maybe watch this series from the beginning, hear the prophets in the Bible who quoted the Book of Enoch in the canonized Bible, and then make a more informed, intelligent conclusion. So far, I've watched 4 or 5 that preceded this one. Maybe that's why you're confused. He gave you a recap but you'll have to go back to the previous ones to get all the scriptural references in their entirety. Hope that helps

    • @cynthiabehr1870
      @cynthiabehr1870 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh and these are not commentators. They are verified historians and theologians of their time. It's archaeological and anthropological evidence that corporates the Bible and the book of Enoch which apparently mere men decided to exclude from scripture even though at least 5 books of the canonized Bible directly quote Enoch. Catch up...

    • @barbaraellen9314
      @barbaraellen9314 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Genesis chapter six

  • @charlesmangum2100
    @charlesmangum2100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I consider you a great teacher, but I do not swallow the myth that humans got pregnant by angels. Also, the book of enoch is NOT true! 🏴🏴🏴🏴

    • @kennethderrickson8840
      @kennethderrickson8840 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jude vs 6. These angels. Special class, special punishment they are enduring now.

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, 1 Enoch is Bible contradicting folklore from millennia after the Torah, see the book, "In Consideration of the Book(s) of Enoch."
      Yet, Job 38:7, as one example, shows us that “sons of God” can refer to non-human beings (which the LXX has as “Angelos”).
      Jude and 2 Peter 2 combined place the one-time sin of Angels to pre-flood days and correlate it to sexual sin.
      The original, traditional, and majority view among the earliest Jewish and Christians commentators, starting in BC days, was the “Angel view” as I proved in my book, “On the Genesis 6 Affair’s Sons of God: Angels or Not?: A Survey of Early Jewish and Christian Commentaries Including Notes on Giants and the Nephilim.”

  • @lonecar144
    @lonecar144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hebrew Strong's Number: 5303
    or nephil, nef-eel'; from (naphal); properly, a feller, i.e. a BULLY or TYRANT:- giant.-Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary
    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables
    2 Tim 4:3-4 (KJV).
    All glory to God. Amen

    • @awatchman-um7vy
      @awatchman-um7vy ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no such thing as nephilim. This word means the fallen ones, and the fallen ones are all Godless mankind like the false teacher in this video and all those who are deceived by him.

    • @lonecar144
      @lonecar144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@awatchman-um7vy yep, Amen

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m unsure why you quote one source and then quote 2 Tim 4:3-4.
      As for, “Why didn’t/doesn’t/wouldn’t Satan read scripture the way the world does and NOT do what is prophesied of him and make God and his word unreliable?” because he’s insane-"mentally unstable” as you put it.
      When it comes to your mere assertion “It is impossible to believe that an angel of high order” FYI: Satan’s not an Angel, he’s a Cherub, “and his untold number of followers (‘1/3rd of the heavenly angels’ as taught) are too stupid to realize the simplicity of this ploy that would make God and his word unreliable” well, they did what they did for their reasons and the Angels were incarcerated.
      I’m unsure how “God would risk his sovereignty on the whiles of an emotionally and/or mentally unstable being.”
      You say, “It is impossible for Satan to be a fallen heavenly angel” which is accurate, as I noted, but not for your assertions: it’s just a category error thing, a law of identity issue.
      As for, “what prevents another angel from rebelling in the eternal future, and another, and another, etc.?” it appears that there was a point of decision such that those who sinned remained sinners and those who didn’t, didn’t sin-and there’s indication that when they saw what came of their fallen brethren they, metaphorically, said: no way we’re doing that!
      Indeed again, “Satan is not a fallen angel” but as for, “he is not a self-aware being” the narrative of Ezekiel 28 implies that the fact is the 100% exact opposite: he’s full of himself.
      I’m unsure where, “The bible (KJV) tells us he is a power and a principality.”
      Sorry, I don’t know what you mean by asserting, “This fabled Satan that has considerable intelligence should know that all he must do is sit back and do nothing to bring about even just one of God’s prophecies…”
      The rest of your comments are just subjective misreading based on your bias-it’s just taking texts out of context to make pretexts for prooftexts.
      Except, perhaps, for “A talking serpent is a fable” since it refers to Satan and not to a reptile-and was not merely, “symbolic of the lust of the flesh.”
      Shalom

    • @awatchman-um7vy
      @awatchman-um7vy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KenAmmi-Shalom ,...There absolutely, positively is no such thing as satan. The words satan/devil only refer to Godless mankind.
      Please show me where in Genesis in the story of creation it tells us about the creation of a nonhuman spirit being that is satan?
      If anyone reads the Bible correctly, they will see that the mention of the serpent (satan) was immediately after the creation of eve. The serpent was eve. The serpent/satan/the devil all represent the EVEilness that hides in the hearts of all mankind that eve passed down into all mankind.
      The fact is, it is spiritually dead and blind Godless mankind who has created satan. Satan is a creation of Godless mankind, absolutely not of the Bible. It is all a perversion and a total lake of understanding of the Bible that has created satan as a non human spiritual being.
      The fake christianity of the entire 100% apostate church is all science fiction fantasy. It is not the Christianity of the Bible.

    • @lonecar144
      @lonecar144 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KenAmmi-Shalom The connection is quite simple really, the bible(KJV) by definition says that “giants” are failed leaders
      (tyrants), and not what you and your ilk make them out to be, (FABLED aliens and demon spawn).
      At the initial writing of this truth the antagonist at the time deemed Satan to be an archangel, but no matter, both are deemed of high order, one angelic and one “of an angelic order”, the premise is the same. Your stupid god creates 1/3 of his heavenly host so unimaginably stupid that they cannot realize a simplistic ploy to defeat their enemy. Just think of the chaos that would ensue in heaven if they didn’t rebel, not to mention the mockery it makes of his sovereignty.
      Hebrew Strong's Number: 3742
      of uncertain derivative; a cherub or IMAGINARY figure:- cherub, [plural] cherubims.
      -Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary.
      Cherubims are symbolic of a sentry or deterrent, Gen 3:24 (KJV). You people are so delusional you can’t see the that 2 ...yet thou art a MAN,...Ezek 28:2-7 (KJV) speaks of man and his commerce that built up a great city, it speaks of the pride of man witch is his downfall, denying God’s ordaining and providence by laying claim that man’s wisdom brought treasures and stature.
      These stones that you say covered a rogue heavenly being, Ezek 28:13 (KJV), are also the same stones that God gave to Moses and in turn gave to the government he helped set up for God’s people. Are we to understand that God wanted us to worship this cherub? No, the stones show that the city/nation is anointed and have the laws and precepts of God.
      Any city anointed by God is a garden of God raised up and given it’s power through providence (cultivation) of God. And at it’s conception it is perfection if only for an instant. And Eden being the first garden it has become a proverb for all other anointed cities/nations. The city of Tyrus was a merchant city anointed by God and given great riches through the providence of God, but like the parable of Esau sold it’s birthright for the lust of the flesh and was ultimately destroyed by the wrath of God, 18...19...and never shalt thou be any more. Ezek 28:18-19 (KJV).
      If I lie to you or about you, you or another will suffer from misinformation. If I steal from you, you will suffer from lack or have to put out new effort to regain the loss, and all this while my family, friends and neighbors turn a blind eye or encourage my behavior. Now multiply that by the world population, then add in pride, greed, sloth, hate, etc, and you have suffering all around. Then stir the pot with the destructive force of major wars and you have hell on earth (the pit).
      God allows mans evil to run its course but under his patterned timeline and agenda. That repeating pattern is revealed in the seven seals and seven Churches, each seal and corresponding church representing a 1,000-year day, and each day having its own set of 7 trumpets and 7 vials. The 7 trumpets are 4 progressive leading (morally failed) cities/nations ((12 tribes into Egypt and 12 tribes out of Egypt) this is why there are 24 elders), and 3 major wars/world wars, and the 7 vials are 7 events of the last major/leading city/nation of each day (each city/nation a head of the dragon, Rev 17:9 (KJV)). The 7th trumpet and the 7th vial are simultaneous and end each 1,000-year day with God destroying civilization and bringing hell on earth (the pit) and thereby sealing the day, 6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Psalms 12:1-6-8 (KJV), {this is how he sealed each 1k year day, the 7 seals.}, the coming “great” desolation being the eighth and last time. Rev 17:10-11 (KJV)., and God decides what truths (and lies) are passed onto the next 1,000-year day.
      Today we are in the 7th day/seal and God rests on the 7th day. He will allow us to destroy ourselves and the earth with our undisciplined knowledge of technology and nuclear power, the beginning of ww3 a nuclear war bringing the earth into tribulation for the eighth and last time. And after 3 ½ years of “Great Tribulation” the earth is cast into the sun (lake of fire, “the second death”) along with the evil and suffering of man (Satan and hell), and the sincere “fire fighters” (the church/adoption/lukewarm) are spewed out to a new earth (the waters above).
      Don’t take my word for it, or any bodies for that matter. Come to the bible (KJV) with a clean slate, and with sincere want for truth, and not to consume it upon your lusts, but that you may do true worship and obedience to God, with a repentant heart, and with reason and logic the spirit of God will teach.11 … in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Acts 17:11 (KJV).
      Amen and good bye.

  • @marymcmullen5644
    @marymcmullen5644 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to know how the women were able to birth a giant

    • @pamelaulery2772
      @pamelaulery2772 ปีที่แล้ว

      marymcullen5644: This is just my own thought, but I think they may have given birth to regular sized babies, but as they grew they became giants.

    • @KenAmmi-Shalom
      @KenAmmi-Shalom ปีที่แล้ว

      The key questions are:
      What’s the usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants” in English Bibles?
      What’s your usage of the vague, generic, subjective, multi-usage and modern English word “giants”?
      Do those usages agree?

  • @lonecar144
    @lonecar144 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn’t/doesn’t/wouldn’t Satan read scripture the way the world does and NOT do what is prophesied of him and make God and his word unreliable?
    It is impossible to believe that an angel of high order and his untold number of followers (“1/3rd of the heavenly angels” as taught) are too stupid to realize the simplicity of this ploy that would make God and his word unreliable.
    It is also impossible to believe that God would risk his sovereignty on the whiles of an emotionally and/or mentally unstable being.
    It is impossible for Satan to be a fallen heavenly angel, because if he is all this angel must do is absolutely nothing to cause even just one of God’s prophesies to come about, and then the bible (KJV) becomes unreliable and false, do this and many more people would turn their backs on God than ever would because of any evil that satan could do.
    Also, what prevents another angel from rebelling in the eternal future, and another, and another, etc.?
    Satan is not a fallen angel; he is not a self-aware being. The bible (KJV) tells us he is a power and a principality. This fact proves that the world is not “rightly dividing the word of truth”.
    This fabled Satan that has considerable intelligence should know that all he must do is sit back and do nothing to bring about even just one of God’s prophecies, then at best God and his word become unreliable and then God is as fallible as man and no God. Or at worst God becomes the same as your fabled Satan “a liar” and is just a power hungry being. And this would leave 2 billion+ professing Christians without a leg to stand on, not mention those that are asleep in the lord.
    To “rightly divide (separate) the word of truth” you must separate fact from fable, truth from tale, and principle from parable. When you sincerely study the bible (KJV) the Holy Spirit will show you that Satan is a power and a principality in high places. In more than one instance in the bible (KJV) high places is referred to as governing seats and rulers, it is not some other dimension with literal ghouls and spirits floating around waiting for a vulnerable human to consume. Satan is not the only inanimate personified by the bible(KJV), Solomon personified wisdom and speaks for her, Prov 1:22-33 (KJV), Jesus personified the Word and speaks for it, John 17:1-5 (KJV)
    As for “prince of the power of the air”, when you enter a house with undisciplined and disobedient children you can feel the contention and strife in the air, when you go to a neighborhood ran by gangs you can feel the tension and fear in the air, and every day more and more you can feel the division and hate in this nation (U.S.A.) the great “liar”, “in God we trust” and “one nation under God”.
    When someone is tempted to do something that they know is wrong they have a little debate in their head and lie to themselves and make excuses to justify the action they want to take. Just like the story of Eve and the talking serpent. A talking serpent is a fable; 2 Tim 4:4 (KJV).
    A talking serpent symbolic of the lust of the flesh; is truth. The power of those that give into this serpent is what God calls Satan, or to be more specific, the power of those that use and abuse the laws of God “to steal, and to kill, and to destroy” the poor, fatherless, and widows, is what God calls Satan. A principality (a government). And any who support him, through lies or evil plans (mind), or with works (hands) are his angels. Hence the mark of the beast.
    All glory to God. Amen

    • @awatchman-um7vy
      @awatchman-um7vy ปีที่แล้ว

      You are on the right tract. Of course there in no such thing as the devil/satan. These words only refer to Godless mankind. No where in the Bible does it tell us that God made a non human spiritual entity that is the devil/satan.
      The 100% false idea of there being a spiritual boogieman hiding in the shadows has only come from Godless mankind. It is only the completely Biblically illiterate that believe in the manmade fable of there being a devil/satan and fallen angels/giants.
      The serpent in the garden was eve. It was eve convincing herself of what was not true just as every single person that has ever lived has done. She did not want to be ruled over by God or by her husband so she convinced herself that if she ate the fruit she was forbidden to eat, she would be as God and could rule over Adam.
      This EVEilness has been imparted into all mankind and now it is mankind who are the devil/satan as we all have eves, evil nature. This is also why all women hate to be ruled over by men and want to be the ones in control. All women have eve's Godless, rebellious, nature as is easily seen. In our world there is nothing more evil than a woman.

    • @awatchman-um7vy
      @awatchman-um7vy ปีที่แล้ว

      As to the mark of the beast, you have not understood this correctly. Every person that has ever lived that is not one of Gods chosen ones is born into this world with the mark of the beast on them. The mark is placed onto all Godless mankind at their conception. The mark is not taken, it is received, put on mankind by God.
      There are three types of people in the world. Three third parts. One third part are the actual Christians. Another third part are the fake christians that make up and fill all the apostate churches. The final third part are the atheists and those snared into all of the other manmade religions of the world.
      The fake christians and the atheists are in reality all the same, they are not the people of God, they are the people of the Godless world (the beast). When the few who are actually the people of God (the actual Christians) are separated from those who are not we are left with two third parts.
      These two thirds parts or two thirds are represented by the number/calculation 66.6%. These are all those who do not belong to God but are the people who belong to the Godless world, the beast. The beast is the Godless world that is made up of all the abominations of Godless mankind that includes the church that is the false prophet.
      This is all clearly explained to us in Zechariah Ch. 13,
      "And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
      "And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God." Zechariah 13:9 KJV

    • @jgodfrey7283
      @jgodfrey7283 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because Satan is a narcissist. Narcissists never, ever believe they can fail. They just keep repeating their schemes over and over.

    • @kciwner
      @kciwner ปีที่แล้ว

      Their eyes were blinded to it. The scriptures clearly say this.

    • @kciwner
      @kciwner ปีที่แล้ว

      @@awatchman-um7vylol. Sounds like you created your own bible. Nice try though. You might be able to fool a few beginners who have never studied the bible though. Now get back to your coven. You’ll be late for the rituals.

  • @DoDayDem
    @DoDayDem ปีที่แล้ว

    Are angels not sexless?

    • @ry9640
      @ry9640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The previous program, Unholy Pursuit, covers this.

    • @BIBLE-UNBUTCHERED
      @BIBLE-UNBUTCHERED ปีที่แล้ว

      That's my understanding.

    • @DoDayDem
      @DoDayDem ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ry9640I’ve listened to unholy pursuit and I don’t think I’m convinced

    • @cryptojihadi265
      @cryptojihadi265 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No. They just aren't given in marriage in heaven.
      But they can take on human physical form as demonstrated many times in the Bible.
      This would allow them to mate with women.
      God is Spirit and yet He was able to conceive with Mary. Obviously not the same way the fallen angels did, but just to point out that Spiritual entities can reproduce with mankind.

    • @DoDayDem
      @DoDayDem ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cryptojihadi265 well I think you’re assuming they could mate with humans. They may be more like eunuchs.

  • @shalinemontgomery5190
    @shalinemontgomery5190 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So good. Thank you.

  • @BrimaMiatta
    @BrimaMiatta ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Lord 🙏