I don't know what Lillian Holden have gone through before the Luke and Noah storyline since I only started watching this only for Luke and Noah but I understand Holden is being a hypocrite he didn't like Lily and Dusty together but now one story arc later he's here sleeping with Carly like what the frick
You are a star Andy, thanks! Especially for mentioning in your note that Luke is on the episode - good to let people know right away. Personally, I am just happy that You Tube videos are so easy to fast forward through. Personally, I want nothing to do with the Monster Holden/Fake Lily Horror Show. Makes me heartsick just to think about it - so I am not about to watch it!
Yay! I just read your post, Thannyr. You took the words right out of my mouth! Puzzling and nonsensical doesn't begin to say it. Holden would never do this. Thanks, Executive Producer Chris Goutman (NOT!).
i just feel so bad for carly cuz men just tell her sweet nothings all the damn time...act like they need her and want her so much even when she's trying her best to do the right thing and then they leave her!! poor carly :(
I still can't accept this change in Holden's character, but I blame it on the lack of chemistry with fake-Lily, and the writers slowly descending into madness.
so i definetly feel that if martha was still on this storyline wouldnt exist... i just cant see this happening with old lily... and even "old" holden... they've like completely changed him... i really would nvr have seen him doing something like this before, but honestly i'm very proud of carly for trying her best to be a better person, and be lily's friend...
I keep trying to like the new Lily as much as I can, but as everyone says Martha Byrne just seemed more motherly to me. I think the new woman is sweet, but she'll take some getting used to. It was probably same for older viewers too when Van took on the role of Luke. I've seen bits from the show with the kid that used to play Luke. I think they definitely upgraded hiring Van. He's a much better Luke in my opinion. Keep up the good work LukeVanFan! =)
This isn't totally out of character for Holden. He did start an affair with Julia Larrabee without a thought of how it would effect anyone in his family especially Luke who hated Julia.
Carley gets to much blame from Lily and I get that she messed up and hurt her friend but she felt more guilty than Holden and she wanted it to stop yet Lily gets so angry at her which I understand but she should be more mad at Holden who had done it before
Agreed. Nothing against newLily, I know she's got big shoes to fill and it's a pretty tall order to walk on and replace Martha, but she doesn't seem that motherly. More like 'older sister.'
I can see why the writers went here with Holden, he was turning into the most uptight bore and i have to say i am alot more interesting in what he's up to now that they've paired him with Maura...who, lets face it, can make any scene engaging...plus he really has no chemistry with the new, nothing like the old, Lily.
Oh...Holden and Carly. Another story deemed more important than giving L&N more stuff and a good storyline where they fight something in life together.
Corvus, Lily was there at the time, but Luke may have pointed it out because Lily was in a coma for most of the time. I tihnk she was conscious maybe the first two days of Damien's visit. But yes, I thought the same thing, I'm just trying to make it sound logical in my mind, but I don't think I accomplished it. lol.
You are absolutely right - these "breeders" jump from bed to bed, this one's wife - this one's husband; even little 14 year old Parker is seeing "action". And all within the span of a week, while the Gay couple has been together over 7 months. While sex is not end all be all, it is perfectly NORMAL. Why can't the writers make these two Gay MEN with the need to physically express their love? Why haven't they woke the morning after in bed together, and say that was GREAT! I love you even more
Oh come on, Fake-Lily is not that bad! It's just because you're SO used to Martha Byrne. If we can't have her back, we may as well get accustomed to Noelle Beck, who, actually, is pretty hot herself. BTW, for me it stops at 1:48. :(
For all of you who think that Holden is hot pause at 1:56 ;). No, but seriously, he looks good. Feel sorry for his family though, and with his wife's best friend...low, very low..
I used to love Holden's character, but now he's turning out to be an ass. WTF IS WRONG WITH HIM??? why can't he just stay with lily?? doesn't he know how much this is going to hurt Luke? stupid screwed up situation :(
LOL ... a breeder huh? I was once a breeder or at least a breeder wannabe until I say the light. But I agree with you. ATWT actually has a chance here to show a young, loving, committed Gay relationship. To create a positive influence and they are "dicking" around with it. I'm NOT saying the boys shouldn't have some drama in their lifes, BUT LET THEM HAVE A LIFE TOGETHER. I know monks who have a more satisfying sex life LMAO.
I don't know what Lillian Holden have gone through before the Luke and Noah storyline since I only started watching this only for Luke and Noah but I understand Holden is being a hypocrite he didn't like Lily and Dusty together but now one story arc later he's here sleeping with Carly like what the frick
Lily: "I think we're going to be just fine". Cuts to her husband in bed with Carly. Oh the irony...
Poor Lily, then again she has put Holden through some stuff too
You are a star Andy, thanks! Especially for mentioning in your note that Luke is on the episode - good to let people know right away. Personally, I am just happy that You Tube videos are so easy to fast forward through. Personally, I want nothing to do with the Monster Holden/Fake Lily Horror Show. Makes me heartsick just to think about it - so I am not about to watch it!
Yay! I just read your post, Thannyr. You took the words right out of my mouth! Puzzling and nonsensical doesn't begin to say it. Holden would never do this. Thanks, Executive Producer Chris Goutman (NOT!).
I know this is a soap so this is supposed to be all drama but I really doubt Holdent would do something like this.
i just feel so bad for carly cuz men just tell her sweet nothings all the damn time...act like they need her and want her so much even when she's trying her best to do the right thing and then they leave her!! poor carly :(
I really like Holden with Carly but I think if Martha was still playing Lily I would hate it. There's no chemistry between new lily and Holden.
I really like holden and Carly together 😏
The video stop at 4:06 for me =( Guess I'll have to try again tomorrow.
Thanks for uploading though! I like knowing what's going on in Luke's life =)
I still can't accept this change in Holden's character, but I blame it on the lack of chemistry with fake-Lily, and the writers slowly descending into madness.
what's wroing with the writers? i hate it when they make actors go out of character...they did it to Noah, and now they're doing it to Holden...
so i definetly feel that if martha was still on this storyline wouldnt exist... i just cant see this happening with old lily... and even "old" holden... they've like completely changed him... i really would nvr have seen him doing something like this before, but honestly i'm very proud of carly for trying her best to be a better person, and be lily's friend...
I keep trying to like the new Lily as much as I can, but as everyone says Martha Byrne just seemed more motherly to me. I think the new woman is sweet, but she'll take some getting used to.
It was probably same for older viewers too when Van took on the role of Luke. I've seen bits from the show with the kid that used to play Luke. I think they definitely upgraded hiring Van. He's a much better Luke in my opinion.
Keep up the good work LukeVanFan! =)
This isn't totally out of character for Holden. He did start an affair with Julia Larrabee without a thought of how it would effect anyone in his family especially Luke who hated Julia.
Wow, Luke can basically figure it all out and Lily couldn't all of this time?! :P
Holden: "I can't go home...my wife...I don't even recognize her anymore".
So you decide to cheat on her I'm gay but I hate men
@@andresplatas women do it too. -a bisexual
Carley gets to much blame from Lily and I get that she messed up and hurt her friend but she felt more guilty than Holden and she wanted it to stop yet Lily gets so angry at her which I understand but she should be more mad at Holden who had done it before
Agreed. Nothing against newLily, I know she's got big shoes to fill and it's a pretty tall order to walk on and replace Martha, but she doesn't seem that motherly. More like 'older sister.'
Noelle Beck reminds me of Finola Hughes.
I can see why the writers went here with Holden, he was turning into the most uptight bore and i have to say i am alot more interesting in what he's up to now that they've paired him with Maura...who, lets face it, can make any scene engaging...plus he really has no chemistry with the new, nothing like the old, Lily.
Maybe refresh it a few times.
No complaints! LukeVanFan, you're awesome!
I wonder if the old lily would come back?
I want her back she was so awsome :D
Oh...Holden and Carly. Another story deemed more important than giving L&N more stuff and a good storyline where they fight something in life together.
nooooooooo!!! dont divorce!!!!111
Bad Holden, bad bad Holden! Luke knows something is up! I hope this affiar doesn't destroy Luke's sex drive.
I know, right? I was thinking the same thing.
It's not like she's a bad actress or anything, she just doesn't really look the part.
Corvus, Lily was there at the time, but Luke may have pointed it out because Lily was in a coma for most of the time. I tihnk she was conscious maybe the first two days of Damien's visit. But yes, I thought the same thing, I'm just trying to make it sound logical in my mind, but I don't think I accomplished it. lol.
lol. Fake-Lilly. I'm actually starting to like the new Lily. She's doing an alright job.
You are absolutely right - these "breeders" jump from bed to bed, this one's wife - this one's husband; even little 14 year old Parker is seeing "action". And all within the span of a week, while the Gay couple has been together over 7 months. While sex is not end all be all, it is perfectly NORMAL.
Why can't the writers make these two Gay MEN with the need to physically express their love? Why haven't they woke the morning after in bed together, and say that was GREAT! I love you even more
umm there kissing.. um ew???!?
Didnt Lily and Dusty happen after they had split? They werent stable then. Lily and Holden are back together now and it matters.
Oh come on, Fake-Lily is not that bad! It's just because you're SO used to Martha Byrne. If we can't have her back, we may as well get accustomed to Noelle Beck, who, actually, is pretty hot herself.
BTW, for me it stops at 1:48. :(
Eurgh. Fake Lily is so... Fake. :/
She's doing an okay job, I guess. But she just isn't the same.
If they can show post-coital Holden and Carly, they should damn well do the same with Nuke. They owe it to us!!!
For all of you who think that Holden is hot pause at 1:56 ;). No, but seriously, he looks good. Feel sorry for his family though, and with his wife's best friend...low, very low..
I used to love Holden's character, but now he's turning out to be an ass. WTF IS WRONG WITH HIM??? why can't he just stay with lily?? doesn't he know how much this is going to hurt Luke? stupid screwed up situation :(
on the preview for tomorrow it looks like Lily is gonna kill Carly O_O
LOL ... a breeder huh? I was once a breeder or at least a breeder wannabe until I say the light.
But I agree with you. ATWT actually has a chance here to show a young, loving, committed Gay relationship. To create a positive influence and they are "dicking" around with it.
I'm NOT saying the boys shouldn't have some drama in their lifes, BUT LET THEM HAVE A LIFE TOGETHER. I know monks who have a more satisfying sex life LMAO.
I don't blame him for cheating this new Lily seems so fake...
Holden is really messed up.
have Holden seen his wife!!??.....shes beautiful and he cheated on her tf
but at the age of luke u moore need a sister than a mother
Oi I still dont like the new lily, not as motherly I guess