You don't need gold rounds on Super Conqueror

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    0:00 - Intro
    1:47 - Erlenberg (limited gold rounds)
    7:05 - Handstand
    8:41 - Steppes (limited gold rounds)
    16:38 - Live Oaks (limited gold rounds)
    24:20 - Lakeville (no gold rounds)
    31:32 - Ruinberg (no gold rounds)
    36:26 - Outro
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ความคิดเห็น • 179

  • @syrinthian5058
    @syrinthian5058 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I write this answer to your question from the perspective of a player who uses primarily standard ammunition to maximize credits as I am still grinding tech trees, but is not afraid to use the 2 key if I know the engagement requires it.
    I think the obvious reason why many people complain about gold ammunition is because of the inherit advantage it provides to the persons using it. To take an exaggerated example, the E75TS has decent penetration with ~222 standard penetration values, which is sufficient for dealing with most tanks in its tier and in the tier above it. However, the APCR gives a whole additional 50 mm of pen, which allows the tank to competitively penetrate many more types of tanks in locations that were inaccessible for standard ammunition. This means that you gain access to a whole amount of plays that weren't accesible before, and the plays that were accessible before are less risky; orange shots become green shots, meaning you don't need to worry about RNG.
    The issue is that when a player who prefers to use standard rounds to become as economical as possible then fights a player who is married to the 2 key, the fight is inherently disadvantageous in a brawling scenario, as one side has to work with penetrating difficult shots against moving cupolas and weakspots whereas another side can focus moreso on maneuvering as their shots will likely go in. Not every player will be able to hit those precise shots like an experienced veteran who makes a living off the game like you iyouxin.
    This problem is compounded by the polarization caused by the accessibility of the ammunition and the skill level of the people playing it. While silver is not the hardest currency to acquire in WOT, the game is designed to eat through silver as much as you can generate, which isn't that much of a problem to players who have acquired a massive collection of vehicles (and therefore more experienced players), but becomes a problem for newer and more casual players who are trying to save up millions of credits for tanks. Most of those players only put in 5 to 10 games in a day and don't generate alot of credits as they don't maximize premium time or don't do well enough in those games to generate a substantial amount of credits (maybe a net gain of 20000 credits in a good game without premium time). So why would they be comfortable to use gold ammunition?
    In addition, the people who have collected all the vehicles are players like you, who are more comfortable with the games mechanics and really don't need to use gold as much to spearhead through the enemies fortifications. This is to say that gold ammunition really compounds with a whole plethora of other problems within the game (such as lack of formal matchmaking) which makes the wholistic experience of WOT a frustrating one to those who aren't devoted enough, and therefore why the game doesn't have many newer players stick as well as other games.
    However this isn't to say gold is a must use. In many cases, using gold won't help because you end up putting yourself in a situation which is really shitty, and even gold ammunition won't help. Most of these cases is really a skill and expereince issue on the players part. For example, I could never dream of penetrating a type61 only exposing their turret with standard OR gold ammunition, and if I find myself fighting a type61in a situation where I cannot face hug it or play in a way to take advantage of their non-existent hull armor, I have made a mistake that lies beyond the mechanics of ammunition selection.
    TLDR: Using gold isn't the end all be all in a game, but it gives a marginal advantage to those who are willing to win above all else, making the mechanic feel oppressive to those who can't afford, or not adjusted to the game as well as iyouxin is.
    Edit (an additional comment with the inspiration from @znk0r's statement on hesitancy of premium use):
    In theory, using a couple of premium shells properly to guarantee that you can shoot 7 more standard shells in a game would help increase your stats and EXP gain substantially. However, in practice many players are prone to mistakes. An average/casual player will use those couple of premium rounds to fight a difficult tank, but afterwards then will drive to a location (like an open field) where they end up dying immediately. To many of those players, weighing the benefits and risk will be something that they aren't conformable with as they will risk going down an extra 20000 silver for a possibility that they MIGHT do more. But to a good player like iyouxin, the use of premium rounds to secure a kill guarantee they will be able to influence the match, as they will live longer to make those crucial plays.

    • @user-wv4ek7zk8l
      @user-wv4ek7zk8l 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Very well explained brother.

    • @znk0r
      @znk0r 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm a pretty decent "F2P" player and and I agree with you. But I think there is the big issue, I feel many F2P are way too hesitant to shoot premium. If shooting premium gets you X more damage and X more kills most the the times the math works out. .

    • @syrinthian5058
      @syrinthian5058 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@znk0r I agree with your statement, which falls in line of the polarizing nature of premium shells. Good players will maximize the usage of such shells and reap the benefits, but the average player will not. This is something I should have also added to my little essay; as all players load some premium shells in their tank and have the ability to use them in a match, but don't due to lack of confidence. I'll edit my little essay in light of your comment.
      Thanks!

    • @topaz6959
      @topaz6959 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As someone who was prematurely married to the 2 key because I lacked skill prior to learning the game, it's much more difficult to readjust yourself not based off penetration values rather shell velocity as in most cases you lose a decent bit and that effects my aiming heavily especially against rather quick lights (A primarily TD player)

    • @iyouxintwitch
      @iyouxintwitch  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      So to make watching experience better for the community if I stick to use intuition in cases where I REALLY NEED gold round. Right?

  • @alexandervanderelst825
    @alexandervanderelst825 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Handstand was the best part 😂

  • @Hunt3rr4455
    @Hunt3rr4455 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Well id say because gold negates the only usable armor a tank might have. In case of the Ho-Ri 3, it has 300mm of armor on the upper flat front structure. Most tier X tanks have around 255mm so they wont pen but a lot of tanks also have around 330mm of gold pen. It makes they tank's armor pretty useless.

  • @inspectorbananas8157
    @inspectorbananas8157 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im glad you do videos like these. It makes it super obvious that you don't need prem ammo to do a lot of damage. But it also shows exactly why good players use prem ammo, because it reduces bullshit bounces where you most definitely should pen but dont because of some dumb low pen roll.

  • @HenrikO7
    @HenrikO7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Merry Christmas dawg, thanks for the content!

  • @murielmecm5322
    @murielmecm5322 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I learned how to play without gold when I got the E 25 back in 2017, the tank is really good for making credits but as a free to play I've never spent gold unless it was really necessary, so I never loaded gold to begin with, all 50 rounds were AP, and it works pretty well and after that I started playing without gold in every other tank I had! I took it as a challenge to get better.

  • @tbl7608
    @tbl7608 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    with the excercise thing, something that could help you is set up "punishments" after every game, i.e. loss = 10 pushups; missed/bounced shot = 1 pushup, i started doing that and it can help

  • @crescentfuze
    @crescentfuze 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice job on the press ups!

  • @GuitarRock86
    @GuitarRock86 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This tank is a beast. Easy probably because have a good gun, stable and a very strong turret, easy to defend.
    With skills u can do a lot of damage with normal rounds. A pleasure to watch.

  • @juleshand4164
    @juleshand4164 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    broo thoses handstand push ups are sick keep it up

  • @tan7k
    @tan7k 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Hi iyouxin, f2p player here. Honestly shooting gold rounds just feels like a quality of life because you don't have to think much about your shots penetrating (specially at tier 10). However gold rounds can be advantageous when it comes to dealing with heavily armored tanks (like Maus) and tanks playing hull down.

  • @tameu1309
    @tameu1309 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As usual the handstand was the favorite part of the video

  • @user-eu7uw8jq2d
    @user-eu7uw8jq2d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My man is killing us with those gigachad push ups 🤣🤣

  • @shark_de_mique
    @shark_de_mique 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's totally fine to shoot premium rounds. Contrary to a popular belief, even in Jagdpanzer E100 you need to aim when shooting 420 heat, because your shell could be easily absorbed even by paper tanks like leo 1. Also, I think all premium ammo should be twice or 3 times cheaper, than they are now, this will help f2p players and others who don't have that many credits to afford it. Plus, in most cases premium ammo gives you not only a high pen value but also a different shell pen mechanic like ap/apcr vs heats. The best and the most versatile combination is ap/apcr + heats, with which you get an over-matching mechanic as well as heat pen mechanic (heat ricochet angle is insane)

    • @prodbyBaxy
      @prodbyBaxy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wg could make it cheaper but in exchange lower the damage otherwise there is no point in having normal rounds

    • @shark_de_mique
      @shark_de_mique 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@prodbyBaxy if you have ap/apcr and heats it makes sense to have them both. If it's regular ap vs premium ap, than yeah, premium is better. The reduced damage is not great either. shooting someone for 300 instead of 400 while they can go through you like a hot knife though a butter -- it's not a good idea

    • @ihaveadream7858
      @ihaveadream7858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@shark_de_miquein wot blitz it's already like that and there have been no problems. If you spam gold you lose.

  • @dORolandDeschain
    @dORolandDeschain 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been on this game since Beta. Used to literally be, “pay to penetrate”.

  • @Yeskos
    @Yeskos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    How to make obj705A work
    How to make Foch 155 work
    How to make rinoceronte work

    • @envy4661
      @envy4661 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      U make them work by not playing them. Better in your garage collecting dust

    • @angryskycraper
      @angryskycraper 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@envy4661 705a is a beast, play it to your heart's content; foch is a meme tonk, load that 395 heat and rush in front for a juicy clip you'll outtrade anyone. Rhino has no dpm but very decent armor and amazing gun sooo

    • @danilojasovic4800
      @danilojasovic4800 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll tell you how to make them work. Obj. 705A is a braindead tank, you take a good position where you can sidescrape, and just hold it. As for Foch 155 and Rinoceronte, please don't play them, you are putting your team at disadvantage simply by playing some of the worst tier 10 tanks, and when you do that you'll loose a lot more than usual.

    • @angryskycraper
      @angryskycraper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danilojasovic4800 nah platoon foch 155 yolo one flank=60% winratio trust me

    • @danilojasovic4800
      @danilojasovic4800 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@angryskycraper okay, but that's not the point. Platoon of 3 IS-7 with ramming build is also insanely good, but individually, IS-7 is below average tank today, and that's coming from an IS-7 enjoyer. The same way Foch 155 is bad, horrible accuracy and a huge weakspot, and to be honest Foch B is much better, even for the yolo strategy you have mentioned.

  • @Ckon01
    @Ckon01 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks for the tips

  • @gigachad1651
    @gigachad1651 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ey finally 2k man❤

  • @tajj7
    @tajj7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    People like to complain and excuse why they lost, didn't perform etc. rather than just admitting they suck or mucked up. 'Gold' ammo gives an easy excuse for this, easy for people in their heads to just say 'oh he's a gold noob' when someone beats them rather than just admit you got outplayed. Of course premium ammo gives an advantage there is no doubt about that, but nowhere near the level most people claim it does, you also hear all this nonsense from people that it 'makes armour useless' or it 'auto-pens' or is 'no skill', but most people who play the game to a decent level know if it none of those things, armoured tanks dominate the meta, most people still aim premium ammo at weakspots they just want to lessen their RNG (IMO that is the biggest reason for its use by most people, why shoot an IS7 lower plate or E100 lower plate where it's 60-70% chance to pen with AP, only to get bad pen roll and it bounces, so people use premium to ensure pens on their aimed shots and reduce bad RNG).
    I think its impact on the game is blown all out of proportion, especially as credits are so easy to come by these days. Really its just an easy excuse for people failing and not wanting to admit they mucked up and need to play better. If it was 'fixed' people would just complain something else was pay to win or something else made them lose.
    Daki put up a replay a while back of him playing the Type 5, no premium ammo and doing 10k damage. So he was in a terrible tank with no premium ammo used, and people still tried to excuse his game that he was lucky or had streamer RNG etc. rather than just accept he is very very good at the game and that is why he has great games, not because of premium ammo or bond equipment or what tank he choses or getting lucky, he is just good. But most players don't want to accept they suck, so they blame stuff in the game and premium ammo is just one of the most common excuses.

  • @CodeB_4cpp
    @CodeB_4cpp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I never complained about gold ammo. The problem is the credit loss when I use it. Yeah I know about the advice you gave for the credit loss problem but still, players should be rewarded for insane damage and kills even on a loss (called skill). But nope, you are rewarded for swiping that credit card lol. By the way, whether or not you need gold rounds is entirely up to the objective of a player on the battlefield. Food for thought

    • @iyouxintwitch
      @iyouxintwitch  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I like it

    • @juanzulu1318
      @juanzulu1318 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no credit loss if u pen withur prem ammo. And a losing match doesnt give u a disafvantage in credits (only in xp)

    • @CodeB_4cpp
      @CodeB_4cpp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@juanzulu1318 How often does this happen? and "a losing match doesn't give u a disadvantage in credits" how? please do tell. I am very curious

    • @CodeB_4cpp
      @CodeB_4cpp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iyouxintwitch thanks👍

    • @juanzulu1318
      @juanzulu1318 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CodeB_4cpp if u pen with ur prem ammo the corresponding credits you receive for doing that damage equals roughly the shell costs.
      Losing a match only reduce xp amount but not the credit amounts. In other words: xp is modified by wining/losing while credits are not.

  • @janakermann6123
    @janakermann6123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice man, I remember when u posted the planch progress on your insta a few months ago, but nice that you are still doing calisthenics. Just like me, Wot and calisthenics :). I advise you to first try to learn a clean handstand before trying pushups. When I learned it I was the same and wanted to learn everything at the same time and tried to do pushups when I could not even hold the handstand clean for 10 seconds haha. But this will hinder progress in the long term and it is much more efficient to learn it step by step.
    But I love that you are still doing it. If you really achieve the full planch one day, you will be on top of the game in both wot and calisthenics.

    • @janakermann6123
      @janakermann6123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please keep us updated about your progress, maybe you can motivate some to do the same

    • @iyouxintwitch
      @iyouxintwitch  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Got it! Thanks

  • @Aluzard
    @Aluzard 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't care if I cant myself use gold rounds. The problem is that the enemy spams it so where I was using my strenght on a tank it's negated by the enemy just loading gold.

  • @JulioMoot
    @JulioMoot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most times if I switch to gold I could have penned with regular ammo. Its only good for velocity while you're moving, and doing over 500 damage in arty😂

  • @EscapeTheMatrixRightNow
    @EscapeTheMatrixRightNow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    36:49 - _"I wish you all vulnerable holidays"_

  • @niitoniito7
    @niitoniito7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    U dont need to use pink or purple equipments and directives too

  • @FavkTheDemon
    @FavkTheDemon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ngl could watch this all day hehe 7:40
    hahahahahahahahaha 10:15

  • @eralar2
    @eralar2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One good reason to use gold rounds: when you're an occasional player, not playing often, you can't learn the weak points of every tank in the game. Some of course are easy to remember, but others not so much. You have to compensate by using gold rounds... at least that's what I do. I'm not a particularly good player (49.8% average win ratio), but I don't want to penalize my team even more by choosing not to use gold ammo when I feel it's necessary.
    But with the pen of the super conqueror, I don't know if I would use lots of gold (I didn't grind that line of tanks).

  • @WinterMute99
    @WinterMute99 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LOL so if i want to pen hull down maus, i will press 2 key, same with e100 or any other german tonk

  • @BenDover-kt8wm
    @BenDover-kt8wm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish there was a 3 mark session video for the EBR 105

    • @iyouxintwitch
      @iyouxintwitch  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check out new video with ebr105. Not marking session but still

    • @BenDover-kt8wm
      @BenDover-kt8wm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iyouxintwitch I've watched pretty much all the videos and they are useful, but for learning, the full marking sessions are the best since you get so many maps and positions back to back :)

    • @iyouxintwitch
      @iyouxintwitch  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      many more to come

  • @DaviDv1_3
    @DaviDv1_3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really want a guide for leopard 1, its my favorite tank to watch, and i really want to play it

  • @michael_Song
    @michael_Song 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love ur upside down lol.

  • @justjosh11
    @justjosh11 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One arm pushup is easy! Easy to say for a little guy like yourself! Even at my peak (lol, long time ago) when I was boxing lots, I'm quite a big guy and one arm pushups were an absolute mission.

    • @snoof8908
      @snoof8908 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its not that hard. Im a big guy to and we used to do them in the Military

    • @iyouxintwitch
      @iyouxintwitch  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe my weight makes it easier, I agree. But I always wondered, isn't your body evolving equally? Like if you have thicker bones and it adds to the weight, aren't your arms getting stronger to support that weight?

  • @jeffreyleatherman334
    @jeffreyleatherman334 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On the N/A server they need to change the name of World of tanks to World of gold rounds. I say that because every match im in no matter the tier could be tier 1 and all i ever get hit with is gold rounds or at least 97% of the time.

  • @TheBigZooShowbyTanis
    @TheBigZooShowbyTanis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the secret iyouxin ;-)

  • @EscapeTheMatrixRightNow
    @EscapeTheMatrixRightNow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey iyouxin! 👋 I gotta say, your tank skills are seriously impressive. Three-marking vehicles, even the tricky 279e, with standard rounds is a feat.
    Here's the thing - I respect players who stick to standard equipment, skip those directives, and keep the crew skills limited. 🚫🛠 It's like going back to basics and proving that it's about skill, not just gear.
    I challenge you to roll with this approach, especially in accounts where resources aren't an issue. It'd be awesome if you showed that it's not just the gear making you a top-tier player. 🏆
    By doing this, you'd inspire folks like me to emulate your style without feeling held back by costly gear or too many skills. 🎮
    So, what do you say, iyouxin? Let's level the playing field and keep it skill-based. I think it'd earn you even more respect in the World of Tanks community.

    • @EscapeTheMatrixRightNow
      @EscapeTheMatrixRightNow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You've already demonstrated your prowess with improved gear and directives, iyouxin. It's clear you've got the skills to dominate. But imagine the challenge and satisfaction in showing that you can excel with standard equipment, even if it means a slower fire rate and longer aim times. It's like proving you're the real tank commander, not just the one with the fanciest gear. Keep rocking it! 💪🎮

    • @EscapeTheMatrixRightNow
      @EscapeTheMatrixRightNow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think the game could become much more fair. I understand that life isn't always fair, but when it comes to the game, it would be more enjoyable if winning was based on skill rather than having a better tank. Imagine playing with tanks that are equally matched against your opponents. Winning in such a scenario would be more satisfying because it's all about your skills, not just having a superior tank.

    • @TofiiTofii
      @TofiiTofii 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this feels ai generated

    • @iyouxintwitch
      @iyouxintwitch  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it's a good idea. Press account should serve the community, not too my own satisfaction. I agree with you

    • @EscapeTheMatrixRightNow
      @EscapeTheMatrixRightNow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TofiiTofii Ya, I can't articulate myself properly. English is my 3rs language, so I allow myself to indulge with help

  • @kacperperzynski7488
    @kacperperzynski7488 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to say when i play sconq and my opponent on the other side of hull down position in his sconq we both can penetrate each other turret near the gun. Without gold that would not be possible. My maus and e100 turrets are getting slaughtered by gold ammo often but when something like this happens to be the case in sconq im really shifting myself to play russian heavys to have great turrets with almos or no weak spots. I play mostly standard rounds on sconq and other tanks because i cant simply afford loosing credits and playing premiuma for farming is not fun at all. I never fire gold on leopard or grille 15 tho but i have few in case some maus face hugged me😂

  • @nkzeta2315
    @nkzeta2315 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with gold rounds is mostly for superheavies like the Type 5 Heavy since gold ammo for the most part nullifies their most important aspect that defines them. Many people have said before that tanks should have weakspots that can be reliablily penned without gold. But then again, WG prioritizes profit so I don't see them changing. Regardless instead of whining you might as well join the dark side and enjoy gold spamming.

  • @longrider9551
    @longrider9551 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would love if WOT had a few maps with no gold allowed

  • @omaredgardorojasrios6780
    @omaredgardorojasrios6780 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    vengo desde el minuto donde la FV4005 le dio el tiro, ufff eso duelo... algo dentro de ti se rompe

  • @eyev0
    @eyev0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nicceee

  • @angryskycraper
    @angryskycraper 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be fair, sconq is one of these tanks that barely needs gold, try 50b or maus with full AP... Now that's way harder to do

  • @overcheats4518
    @overcheats4518 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    +1 for the pushups while in handstand mode 💀

  • @kizzzit5724
    @kizzzit5724 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year :)

  • @simulja8851
    @simulja8851 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I mean it can be sux if you face all tier 10 matchmaking with 2 279 and 2 E100...gg wp anyways :)

  • @DeLawrence97
    @DeLawrence97 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ammo IMO needs a hefty rework and the concept of "gold ammo" simply needs to go(a.k.a shells should cost around the same regardless of their type, details later). Yes, it may be a credit sink that drives the acquisition of premium accounts etc. but they can rebalance that loss elsewhere(marginally more expensive consumables, tech tree prices etc.).
    What I don't like about gold ammo is that 9 times out of 10 it's a straight up upgrade with NO DRAWBACKS. Higher PEN simply allows you to do damage more effectively.
    Now, I don't dispute that a certain degree of knowledge is still required to be effective as you cannot just autoaim and pen everything, but at the same time, there are too many outliers with poor standard pen that jumps up to idiotically high values with gold rounds, completely invalidating any other shell type. The most egregious example I can recall was the T-54 (201/219 standard 330 gold). That difference alone invalidates the need to play like a medium sometimes as you can just chew through turrets while fighting head on. OFC, don't take this at face value, I know that just penning isn't a win condition as there's also movement etc., but think of it in a vacuum still for this post's purpose.
    Gold ammo needs to go, and we need more ammo with different characteristics that have clear advantages and drawbacks.
    I mean, we all love intuition now and it would be great for the "ammo choice" layer to be more prevalent. On certain tanks it is a factor, but on many, sadly it isn't.
    There are the hidden stats that most players don't know, like the differences in normalization angles which makes APCR bounce more often on sloped armor or HEAT prefer flat armor and its tendency to get absorbed by spaced armor etc.
    As a tangent, I'm sick of hearing this "OFC I bounce the side of an X tank". No, you didn't bounce, your shell either went low and under the tank or hit a certain armor type that negated your HEAT shell. "Armor not hit" isn't a BOUNCE. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
    As a thought experiment, let's take the T-54 again. IMO, the damage should scale almost linearly, but in the opposite direction ofc.
    AP - 219 PEN | 320 ALPHA | 1015m/s(designated as BASE shell, off of which we derive all other calculations)
    HEAT - 330 PEN |160 ALPHA(since PEN value is 50% higher, damage should be 50% lower) | 900 m/s
    APCR(NEW) - 260 PEN | 270 ALPHA | 1300 m/s (apparently the "best" shell for this tank)
    HE - 50mm PEN |1400 ALPHA(I'd actually make it like 480) | 900 m/s (you see the problem here, so HE would likely need a separate sclaing factor)
    OFC, the actual balancing should take into account accuracy, gun caliber, reload and so on, again the T-54 is a thought experiment
    WG can get creative with ammo types and give the player the CHOICE on what he wants to use. They can make the intervals tighter or looser allowing for novel tanks that can be more effective depending on scenario. Tanks like FV and Cobra are loved and hated at the same time...but why? HESH. HESH is ammo done right(albeit maybe a bit too far in damage values, but the concept HOLDS). Low PEN, high DAMAGE. Unfortnately, the glaring issue here is that the difference is SO HIGH, that HESH becomes the default choice and everything else is disregarded. I'm saying this to showcase a potential flaw in my proposed idea, hence the requirement for CAREFUL balance.
    While we're at it, I'd also make it so that intuition can work more effectively on AUTOLOADERS and AUTO-RELOADERS by being able to change the current number of shells(and having a corresponding scaling timer for that).
    Example. I have 5 APCRs in my Batchat, started shooting, shot TWO, killed a target, but there's now a heavy near it that I'd like to use HEAT rounds for. Pop intuition, it takes 60% of the time of a full clip, boom, my now 3 remaining shells are HEAT.
    OFC, now you're thinking "Why not load HEAT from the get go?". The answer is that this would happen in tandem with the proposed AMMO changes so HEATs would have less damage, so again, the ammo choice is in play.
    You may say, "Didn't they already try something similar in a Sandbox?"
    The answer is yes, though IIRC, they made the mistake in keeping the "Special round" designation and shell price, so, despite its advantages and drawbacks, it still retained the "gold ammo" status.
    IMO, AMMO SHOULD COST THE SAME, with maybe minor variations. Think for a random high caliber tier X..basic AP shell 1000 credits, APCR, 1100, HEAT 1200, HE 800.
    You may say "But wouldn't this buff heavy tanks and tanks with strong armor again?"
    They would, which is why a rebalance of weakspots should also be in order. No more "cupola stronger than the turret" shenanigans (cough :Mauschen :cough:)

    • @iyouxintwitch
      @iyouxintwitch  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Honestly, will thought presentation!
      I like the idea of having ammo choices without having to think about the credits. That would be a proper game. I will keep your comment in mind. Maybe make a video suggestion on the future

  • @pvs1681
    @pvs1681 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My momma didn’t raise a bussy…… Gary bussy momma did

  • @Charles_Rafael
    @Charles_Rafael 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven't fired gold rounds when i have to f2p player here hello, gold rounds cost so much coins. from my perspective regardless of servers north, eu, asia, i see people that is always spamming gold 70% of the time. I completed OBJ 268, OBJ 705A, MAUS, i took advantage of the events and gifts.
    From what i've learned if you have atleast 210mm pen rounds in tier 8 that is average, for the tier 7, 175mm pen, in tier 9 you have tier 10 guns, and from my point there is no reason to spam gold only for heavily armored tanks. I see people just spam gold regardless of enemy armor 😢

  • @hubertohb227
    @hubertohb227 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Because Wot need to balance gold ammo. Only advatage standard ammo is cost and maybe high normalization but not always

  • @pepanovakno
    @pepanovakno 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wait thats not the old video before they baned you account i know you did a video before that and thought this will be the same

  • @user-kk5qb2gu2q
    @user-kk5qb2gu2q 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    gyatt

  • @pellowpet
    @pellowpet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    people complain about gold spam because there's no point of playing a super heavy when that's all we fight is super conq, chief and other heavies with high gold pen.

  • @rastooo
    @rastooo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We fix the track🤣🤣🤣

  • @maddahy
    @maddahy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I care about gold ammo because I feel it promotes lazyness in regards to aiming and leading your shots, at least in most cases. Also, at the receiving end, it discourages betterment in regards to angling and sidescrapping, because it becomes irrelevant anyways. Finally it promotes the easy choice of tapping 2 instead of relocating, trying a different shooting angle, attempting a flanking maneuvre etc That's how I feel.

    • @iyouxintwitch
      @iyouxintwitch  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting, thanks

  • @gameclips5734
    @gameclips5734 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you don't need gold rounds in any tank to do well. The only people that need you to use it is WG...

  • @torttu9075
    @torttu9075 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Full gold for maximum success

  • @notY_Y
    @notY_Y 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mark e 100 with ap

  • @taigashizuma3556
    @taigashizuma3556 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thats a dirty matrice bruh

  • @freeone6815
    @freeone6815 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes but you have to had aim like a Paroubek

  • @mrnukeyt
    @mrnukeyt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just dropped from 93,5% to 92% moe in 2 games bcs of 0-15 so im about to smack my pc bcs of this video

    • @gunter4476
      @gunter4476 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marking is not worth in holiday period of time

  • @mywafflebroke6874
    @mywafflebroke6874 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't stress this enough, Don't use standard ammo and pen someone more than twice on NA server... THEY WILL YOLO YOU. I know gold rounds should be the one to piss them off but noooo.... pen them with gold and it's just "gold ammo that's the only reason why he penned", but standard pen? "he is try harding so I need to yolo him for my team".

  • @shimonlevy7488
    @shimonlevy7488 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why use gold you may ask? Then ask WG why they are adding tanks impossible to fight against without gold

  • @soulbrothers7789
    @soulbrothers7789 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's that ring on finger ?
    Me from tier 3 to 10 only full gold ! Only way to play

    • @iyouxintwitch
      @iyouxintwitch  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Engaged

    • @soulbrothers7789
      @soulbrothers7789 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iyouxintwitch wooooow
      Congratulations

  • @piter00711
    @piter00711 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its easier, just like that. Its not difference for you because you are one of the best wot players, you can have stock tank with 50% crew and still kick people asses, while even below average player (2kwn8) will be struggling

  • @entritur
    @entritur 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Long story short - complaining about gold rounds is basically about 1 of three things. 1. People who have leftover feelings bout them being a pay to win option. 2. People who think it lowers the skill ceiling. 3. People who are playing economically not understanding when to use the more expensive rounds.
    The pay to win reasoning has been dead for 10 years. They are 4-5x more expensive yes, but silver is easy to come by. Intuition should always be trained. So you aren’t shooting skorps in the face with heat.
    The game got a hell of a lot more balanced when they introduced the gold rounds for silver. This meant that down tiered tanks could be effective against up tiers vs in the old days you were basically hosed.

  • @dovlassaturnus7805
    @dovlassaturnus7805 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good luck penning e100 or Maus with standards

  • @bartekwisniewski1215
    @bartekwisniewski1215 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    > "You don't need gold rounds on sconq"
    > fails to pen E 75 multiple times
    yeah right, buddy...

  • @-dany-3374
    @-dany-3374 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why? because not everyone is an ijouxin and not everyone plays as well as him. either because people only play on weekends, or about 100\200 battles a month and while playing during this time they prefer not to worry about the effectiveness of their shots, earning a full load of gold.

  • @adisgluhalic8477
    @adisgluhalic8477 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Apsolutely ridicilous idea to state that you only need standard rounds. What if you see e100 hull down? Jgpz hull down? You can even pen Maus cheeks with standard. You will bounce off of some tier X even shooting in lower plate.

    • @leudast1215
      @leudast1215 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      his video is clickbait to drive views. you won't see this guy playing tanks that are not hull down gods. simple reason: tanks without a strong turret take too long to aim and die when playing aggressive like he does.

    • @iyouxintwitch
      @iyouxintwitch  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think your statement is overrated. In the games I played I didn't need no gold and I'm going to play it with standard rounds only. So, this isn't a clickbait

  • @BCarey1970
    @BCarey1970 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pay to win!

  • @M45KY
    @M45KY 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I use gold rounds becasue my aim is pretty crap and I dont know the weakspots. =]

    • @codershaper
      @codershaper 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      noob

    • @G0LB_
      @G0LB_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@codershaper dejalo al pibe, cada uno juega como quiere

    • @M45KY
      @M45KY 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@codershaper I am. Also, gold rounds are just credits, It's not real money.

    • @codershaper
      @codershaper 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@G0LB_ speak normal

    • @G0LB_
      @G0LB_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@codershaper traducilo 🙄 o acaso no sabes leer?

  • @peterj.fromnorthgermany8546
    @peterj.fromnorthgermany8546 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's better to refrain from these sporty insoles

  • @iLikePizza829
    @iLikePizza829 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People complain about "gold" beacuse they need excuse why they suck. Not that they are not shooting it, it's just that you shoot more and thats why you're purple gold noob and they are secretly pro oranges :)

  • @shark_de_mique
    @shark_de_mique 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You are right. You don't need premium rounds. Because, you are an extraordinary player, and sconq is an OP tank. Always was, and still is. In some ways, it is more op than the chieftain. Plus, if we count how many sconqs are there in pubs, the toxicity level is much higher than the one of a chief, especially, after the nerfs, I see chief once per 20 battles, I see sconq, sometimes even more than one, 9 out of 10 battles

    • @bragarth7431
      @bragarth7431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Tank with a lot of weakspots, average mobility and good gun. Sure, its OP xD

    • @cSimplicity_
      @cSimplicity_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      keep being sarcastic red tomato for sure 😂

    • @greener2497
      @greener2497 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bragarth7431 shitters will go to the terrain that enemy tanks excel in and complain when they get folded easily. "omg sconq on enemy team !! i guess i'll drive to his favorite hulldown area to get farmed ! Also I wont be using my premium rounds becuz its cheating !!! WHY AM I NOT PENNING HIM ??

    • @shark_de_mique
      @shark_de_mique 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bragarth7431 a lot of weak spots, sure: turret ring with 280 against AP, a cupola, that is almost invisible, if the conq fully depresses the gun, plus, a cupola has a ricochet shape and you actually need heat to deal with the "weak spot". 39 or 40 top speed with great terrain resistance. Besides you have a flat sides with 100 mm armor so you can even side scrap. Oh, and 3500+ DPM. It's balanced, for sure

    • @squishyboi7450
      @squishyboi7450 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@shark_de_miquekeep coping buddy. Sconq is good, not OP

  • @Shroooms
    @Shroooms 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the problem with "gold" spam is that it is only possible for players like yourself, no offense but you've got 45 million credits. 90% of players can't afford that, thus, giving you an incredible advantage over new/free-to-play players. Penetration from 259 to 326 may seem small, but it is a extremely big difference

  • @tomate8315
    @tomate8315 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you do not see the difference why do not play on All tanks with out Gold.

  • @greener2497
    @greener2497 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm sorry if i'm being rude but not using premium rounds in a tier 10 tank (or any other tier) these days is just beyond stupid. People can make a valid argument against prem round back in like a decade ago when it was sold as gold, or back when the wot economy was vastly different that even prem rounds sold as credits was still considered expensive. Nowadays, with all the boosters, free prem days that you can randomly get from missions, and so many events that get you resources, "prem" rounds are just another type of ammo that cost more credits. Some people would shoot 10 standard rounds that costs 1k credits at tough enemies and pen none of the shot AND die instead of just shoot 4k credits prem rounds to pen and progress the game, because they think they got skill or someshit. That's like refusing to buy fieldmods because it's "paying" more to gain some stats

    • @rikyoh130
      @rikyoh130 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man don't worry he is just showing that it's possible, he uses gold a lot if needed

    • @christianalboroto7574
      @christianalboroto7574 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you ever heard the word "challenge"? Get a grip mate.

    • @wxyzmarkus6834
      @wxyzmarkus6834 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Although the just wanted to show his skills by not firing prem rounds, I totally agree with what you said.
      Tier X can’t be played without good ammo in the current meta

    • @Auttruche
      @Auttruche 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The use of gold is increasingly widespread, which is normal in my opinion. However, I think there are too many gold noobs in the game. It's a shame because the game loses its flavor, now it's spamm gold rounds and auto aim at everything to be a good player. Before, being a competitive player required time and dedication to the game, players had to learn weakspots. It makes me sad to see a huge part of the players in their OP tier 8 premium spam gold at me in my tier 6 paper armor tank. The game sense is getting lost more and more to give way to faster and faster matches and more and more bad players make their teams win simply because they spam gold and play the game in "easy mode"

    • @greener2497
      @greener2497 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@christianalboroto7574 I know who he is and what he do, this was not a comment attacking him. I'm just saying this because I know a lot of people still have that egoistic stand on prem rounds. Those streamers got a lot of "gold noob" complains from bad players too

  • @LumiereLumine-kj9dr
    @LumiereLumine-kj9dr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just keep it yolo guys. Best advice here.
    If you're f2p guy, it's not worth playing. That's why i won't play the game.
    Games today are unbalanced and you must sweat so much for little reward. Even streamers dislike to play f2p, it's more harder.
    All in all, remember to yolo, if you don't, you ll regret.

  • @xFrozenxSnowx
    @xFrozenxSnowx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Premium rounds*

  • @emre_glc38
    @emre_glc38 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stream 😢😢😢

  • @jaccovanruiswijk8281
    @jaccovanruiswijk8281 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i do learn alot from your gameplay but why does it always feel like your playing against people that dont know wth theyre doing

  • @Jordan-ql8vl
    @Jordan-ql8vl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You dont need to be a f2p player to shoot gold rounds 💀

  • @thetique9826
    @thetique9826 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    like for push ups!!!

  • @sibillebubelhuber1472
    @sibillebubelhuber1472 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you have problems with 259 of pen, you should literally just aim better

  • @niccolo021
    @niccolo021 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    tier 10 are easier to play without gold because you can't meet tier 12

  • @mahartma
    @mahartma 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good luck sitting there, aiming for weak spots in anything that isn't a SuperConq, Mino or something like that with a BS turret.

  • @stevenomeara8262
    @stevenomeara8262 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait , What your talking about using skills and aiming at weak spots???? Awesome to see a person actually not p0aying to win. Pity half the daft shites out there won't follow the same example.

  • @dombabull
    @dombabull 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think WG should remove gold ammo. FOREVER!!!

    • @nico7674
      @nico7674 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      copium

  • @rafaelaizpun7842
    @rafaelaizpun7842 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My take for gold, you are trying to 100% a tank? no problem with sweaty full gold. You want best content? min maxing standard/gold with intuition feels like the streamer is even more skilled and looks good.

  • @f0rg1vn71
    @f0rg1vn71 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First?

  • @nico7674
    @nico7674 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For the first question of why so many people complain about gold ammo. Well it's simple. This game is filled with shitters who are under big copium. They need something to complain about because they can't accept their flaws and work on it so they just complain

  • @Auttruche
    @Auttruche 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The use of gold is increasingly widespread, which is normal in my opinion. However, I think there are too many gold noobs in the game. It's a shame because the game loses its flavor, now it's spamm gold rounds and auto aim at everything to be a good player. Before, being a competitive player required time and dedication to the game, players had to learn weakspots. It makes me sad to see a huge part of the players in their OP tier 8 premium spam gold at me in my tier 6 paper armor tank. The game sense is getting lost more and more to give way to faster and faster matches and more and more bad players make their teams win simply because they spam gold and play the game in "easy mode"

  • @snoof8908
    @snoof8908 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bad players complain about gold rounds because even with gold rounds They stay bad because they think its only because of the ammo. They dont think about the minimap or their positioning in battle.

  • @irmep1847
    @irmep1847 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Iyouxin, you use the word "pussy" a lot in this video. in America, the word is considered vulgar, crude associated with sex or weakness.

  • @dontatmethisainttwitter
    @dontatmethisainttwitter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:40 not to be mean but thats called cognitive dissonance. they use whatever they can find to justify why they're not playing well instead of being honest with themselves

  • @Takedown87
    @Takedown87 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hahaha yea a lot more intersting when you play vs tier 8-9 😂 and enemys didnt play agressive.