2 things to remember playing against Hero: 1. Other than slashes, every spell is a horizontal straight line. You can avoid most stuff by staying elevated and you can approach/threaten with a diagonal jump into his space. 2. Hero up B has no hitbox on the way up. Which means you can hit him easily before grabbing ledge. Cloud is a good example with his rising Nair or Dair after holding ledge.
18:57 Tl;dr for people who ain't readin allat. Spinning the stick as fast as possible is faster than regular button mashing due to the way inputs are read even though button mashing has a stronger effect. Taken from the Smash Wiki: Button inputs have a different effect on mashing than stick inputs; their effectiveness is increased by 1.8× compared to stick inputs, but any subsequent input (including a stick input) is registered in 2 frames, instead of the frame right after. For example, if the default reduction by mashing for a grab is 8 frames, stick inputs still reduce its duration by this amount, but button inputs reduce it by 14.4 frames each; however, as only one button can be input in the same time as two stick inputs, they are slower by themselves.
A really fun and informative video. I can't imagine you guys would want to do too many of these videos and spill trade secrets, but I really appreciated this kind of atmosphere and tone in supporting a fellow competitor and brother of yours.
9:58 this scenario that Cosmos is talking about Colorando8 has talked about this with me and others and he even reviewed it and studied it after the set at Genesis. Normal getup does work you just have to be careful about the timing.
Even if it does work, it's extremely difficult to time. I've never seen anyone get past it except by rolling, but with perfect spacing I believe it covers roll as well. Cosmos' best option was probably drop off ledge out of range and switch to Pyra to mitigate the windbox.
@@cullenhutchison6528 I've done it I think twice ever in all my time playing the game, and I consider myself very good at timing getup on random niche moves (like for example, I've never once got up into a Gigaflare). That's less than the amount of times I timed a neutral getup into shield on Magic Burst. It's mad hard to time.
cosmos def gotta utilize running f tilts, and running reverse up tilts. you tell him to dash attack but hero gets a whole f tilt on shield, running f tilt is mad safe and honestly just as fast. cosmos spent the games either full screen away or approaching once and then backing off. he didnt really attempt to pressure the hero at all
10:19 you actually can normal get up in this position, but the timing is really unintuitive and a lot of times, you’ll end up accidentally doing it too early. If you wanna play it safe, you can roll, but he will get a guaranteed down smash, which he’ll live from unless he gets critted. So idk, if he wasn’t feeling confident in himself, he should’ve just rolled, otherwise, time the neutral get up properly but only go for it if you’ve practiced the timing
To be fair, it's really difficult to be prepared for a projectile, midair snooze in the middle of a set like that. No other character has that option at all, and Hero doesn't have consistent access to it either.
From a psychological perspective, 🧐 It's alarming 🕘how aggressive😡 he is, and how little respect ❤ he has for his subs 🧎♂ and friends😶🌫 and it speaks 👄💦 on his mental 🧠 status greatly.
How do you rotate the control stick? I've been trying to see how people do this for months and nobody points the camera towards their controller to show how they grip or move in order to move the control stick fast.
Wow Nairo that was an awesome video, and my bot eyes have never witnessed such top tier coaching. Any haters on this video can only be the scum beneath a bot's feet, or have the brainpower of a fox main, because all fox mains play 0% of the game since they require no skill for their character.
thank you for lending me your Lamborghini cosmos
Huhhh
love this roast sessio-.. i mean coach session
I love seeing two pros talking it out together on stream. More of this please!
Sadly nairo is just a washed WiFi content creator now
Was Light offscreen? 🤔
@@kakaoausgeschuttelt4845emphasis on *WASHED*
@@d.s.alcodaI think it was Marss
2 things to remember playing against Hero:
1. Other than slashes, every spell is a horizontal straight line. You can avoid most stuff by staying elevated and you can approach/threaten with a diagonal jump into his space.
2. Hero up B has no hitbox on the way up. Which means you can hit him easily before grabbing ledge. Cloud is a good example with his rising Nair or Dair after holding ledge.
Nairo talked about number 1. Its good to avoid the spells but he said cosmos was jumping too much aand getting punished for it
Wait until he watches his set with Sparkle... that was the return of the Green Goblin 💀
IM SO HAPPY TO SEE THIS TYPE OF CONTENT!!
18:57 Tl;dr for people who ain't readin allat. Spinning the stick as fast as possible is faster than regular button mashing due to the way inputs are read even though button mashing has a stronger effect.
Taken from the Smash Wiki:
Button inputs have a different effect on mashing than stick inputs; their effectiveness is increased by 1.8× compared to stick inputs, but any subsequent input (including a stick input) is registered in 2 frames, instead of the frame right after. For example, if the default reduction by mashing for a grab is 8 frames, stick inputs still reduce its duration by this amount, but button inputs reduce it by 14.4 frames each; however, as only one button can be input in the same time as two stick inputs, they are slower by themselves.
I ain’t readin allat
Does the c stick work as well?
No i think it has to be the left stick. C stick sends a direction + a button input which is read slower i believe @@_witherrs_
probably a stupid question, but when you say stick, is that the left stick or right?
@@_witherrs_no
I need so much more of this content in my life
A really fun and informative video. I can't imagine you guys would want to do too many of these videos and spill trade secrets, but I really appreciated this kind of atmosphere and tone in supporting a fellow competitor and brother of yours.
BeastModePaul is an incredible player in Cosmos's defense.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS COMSO
Loving this content, also love when Cosmos makes an appearance on stream!
9:58 this scenario that Cosmos is talking about Colorando8 has talked about this with me and others and he even reviewed it and studied it after the set at Genesis. Normal getup does work you just have to be careful about the timing.
this was a fun analysis, hope to see more in the future! whether in person or over discord
Conclusion Paul is a monster with Hero
More like a beast
@@kajin2422some might say Paul turned on the beast mode 🥶
Normal getup beats kaboom, you just gotta time it to the active frames, not the windbox frames
Even if it does work, it's extremely difficult to time. I've never seen anyone get past it except by rolling, but with perfect spacing I believe it covers roll as well. Cosmos' best option was probably drop off ledge out of range and switch to Pyra to mitigate the windbox.
@@cullenhutchison6528I’ve done it several times 🤪
Yeah I normally go for normal get up and then choose a defensive option if the Hero dashes at me (or I just jump away right after I avoid the blast).
@@cullenhutchison6528 I've done it I think twice ever in all my time playing the game, and I consider myself very good at timing getup on random niche moves (like for example, I've never once got up into a Gigaflare). That's less than the amount of times I timed a neutral getup into shield on Magic Burst. It's mad hard to time.
12:40 you can just hold jump. It’ll input and jump as soon as you’re out of the snooze. I do it all the time
I love the vibes of Nairo and Cosmos together
Long time lurker, always a joy watching Nairo watch a Cosmos set!
Cosmos trying to remember his john
Not a single non-Japanese human being says all syllables of Akakikusu’s name
cosmos def gotta utilize running f tilts, and running reverse up tilts. you tell him to dash attack but hero gets a whole f tilt on shield, running f tilt is mad safe and honestly just as fast. cosmos spent the games either full screen away or approaching once and then backing off. he didnt really attempt to pressure the hero at all
10:19 you actually can normal get up in this position, but the timing is really unintuitive and a lot of times, you’ll end up accidentally doing it too early.
If you wanna play it safe, you can roll, but he will get a guaranteed down smash, which he’ll live from unless he gets critted. So idk, if he wasn’t feeling confident in himself, he should’ve just rolled, otherwise, time the neutral get up properly but only go for it if you’ve practiced the timing
Bit random, but do you know the background song at this time stamp?
@@K-A915 all I know is that it’s from the DK franchise but not what song :(
Top tier content. Love vids like these
11:43 "So I did MashOut!"
wow nairo that was a really good video, thank you
Bro when watching stream and hearing to not use stick AND button I was astonished, I’ve been mashing wrong for almost a year 💀
Cool vid Nairo, nice job editors :)
12:27 does this really work? like if you just hold jump does it recognize all the inputs of rolling the control stick?
17:21 how do you mash that fast??
nvm 18:43
To be fair, it's really difficult to be prepared for a projectile, midair snooze in the middle of a set like that. No other character has that option at all, and Hero doesn't have consistent access to it either.
From a psychological perspective, 🧐 It's alarming 🕘how aggressive😡 he is, and how little respect ❤ he has for his subs 🧎♂ and friends😶🌫 and it speaks 👄💦 on his mental 🧠 status greatly.
omg this video is so good I'm legit crying right now
Paul truly went beast mode
How do you rotate the control stick? I've been trying to see how people do this for months and nobody points the camera towards their controller to show how they grip or move in order to move the control stick fast.
we need way more nairo vod review tbh
People joke on him, but everyone wants to see the second coming of #76
Wow Nairo that was a really good video!
amazing video,my streamer is so generous he helps TOP PLAYERS,what a great guy
Dang, Nairo... Really good video!
Such awsome content Nairo!!!! Keep up the good work! Thoughts on?
Wow Nairo, that was a really good video.
Choke'mos strikes back
Tell cosmos to turn his taunt buttons into jump buttons so he can mash jump when trying to mash out of certain things
Wow nairo that was a really good video! Thank you 🙂
First clip in and they started arguing, im dead
That thumbnail is straight 🔥
wow nairo that was a really good video. thank you.
16:25 that laugh lol
cosmos be spamming that up B fr
Nairo knows wtf he is talking about
Damn this video was good!
15:37 is an interesting thing to say considering Lumirank 2023 had Cosmos at 76th and BeastModePaul at 79 . . . not exactly the biggest disparity.
Prepare for the MinMin dittos.
Wow nairo, that was a really good video.
Wow nairo that was a really good video
This video is so good I didn't even watch it yet 😂
I love Forrest Interlude.
Wow Nairo that was a really good video (I totally didn't do this for the heart)
professor nairo going to work in this vid 🤓
amazing video Nair
They have king chairs
Whats the first song?
we love katamari - houston
Colorondo mentioned lez gooo xD
WOW nairo, really good vijeo
Good video Nairo! 😀
Baby Mario, thoughts?
Awesome video! 🤖
So pretty much Cosmos lost because he was nervous, got it
OH WOW WHAT A VID!!!!!
I was waiting for this LUL
Oooo a fellow Panda
Wow Nairo that was an awesome video, and my bot eyes have never witnessed such top tier coaching. Any haters on this video can only be the scum beneath a bot's feet, or have the brainpower of a fox main, because all fox mains play 0% of the game since they require no skill for their character.
i gotchu bro
BMP the GOAT
Aye thanks for letting me use your spare condo cosmos 🙏 god bless
wow! very good video nairo! you have a hidden talent! keep it hidden!!
Bro really lost to a dude named "beastmode"
LFG!!!
Dang beat me to it
Dusty GTAB
I already watched this vid bot you aint needa spam it in chat....
ComebackCosmos
something's not right. Am I the only one noticing?
these comments glazing
Dang
👍🏼
this video blows
Mods
Yuh
Couple of cuties
Hero is so corny ... ITEMS the character
wow, this video...... is ass 😊❤
Cosmos sux.
cosmos is so shit and carried by aegis
Good stuff!