With the conclusion of Munich high in 2024, this is the very first of many videos covering the event. Great pleasure as always those of you I met at the show, and hope to see more of you at future shows. If you could share and like and all the rest for I believe this is the first video on the quartet on TH-cam we would appreciate it a good deal CMA
Great convo! Exciting stuff for after I win the lottery… Rob is looking good these days, which is great to see! Hope some of this trickles down into a Qutest 2, Mojo 3, or similar 🙂
I definitely need to get to a show some time to listen to many things but i really want to see if this Chord stuff is really worth the asking price. Their stuff is crazy expensive but everyone says it sound so unique. Would love to give it a listen.
Chord dacs always sound so fussfree, engaging. The fact that 16/44 is all you need was elemental for mr Watts already several years back. It is only now an idea that crosses into mainstream thinking. I do wonder if a trickle down version in the Hugo pricerange will come, though.
I can point you to the Hugo M scaler review I did on the channel last year. It will give you a fantastic foundation of what is actually happening to understand this one.
@@ConvinceMeAudio I saw that and remember it. Need to revisit it. An additional explanation of this Upscaler Quartet and how it fits into the set up would be appreciated too. If you ever get the time. Thanks for posting this one anyway. Enjoy your videos.
@@Lego6980 I will put it on the list, I am planning to introduce a video every three days answering a question or certain aspect of Audio and releasing three videos a month that are full reviews from now on so that we can grow the channel. I will put this on the list as one of those
@@JonnyParker- HQPlayer and the MScaler or Quartet are literally performing the exact same mathematical operations (maybe slightly different filter coefficients, but same filter structure, same goal). Other than possibly issues with cleanliness of digital outputs on your PC (since the Chord scalers are also DDCs), they are functionally the same.
@@XmqApT4yPQVCXGwR5Ozn yeah there is that Polish company who makes PC components for higher end stuff I can't recall their name now but looked into them a few years back looking for a better USB for connecting TT2 to PC but I don't know how much difference it will make if you are not running decent power conditioners as well . Haven't used HQ player I just stick to Deadbeef it's lightweight and sounds clean as can be running fully through ALSA no software conversions at all. I will be upgrading everything soon and making a full audio production pc to get back into producing been way too long for me dude .
@@stephenmckinley9347 sadly and unfortunately not yet, I am not too sure if the unit is even ready for the prime time release it was supposed to be August Maybe the project has been delayed due to further development for another few months I don’t know
Thankyou for this.. now im even more sad i wasnt there missing the chance of meeting you also beside hearing Quartet. You should hear my ootic linked Choral housed Mscaler and cap modified Dave with aggressive mains filter applied 😎 Btw i already posted some film shorts of a friend who was there.. see my channel
That’s a shame, hopefully at the next meeting, will definitely check it out, I found Rob‘s comments in regards to high-quality BNC cables not been necessary for this one. I will definitely put it aside and have a look side-by-side with storm when this unit comes in for review.
The cute little integrated that sat beneath the Hugo to, I did but for a very short duration as the interview was booked in advance, I’m going to bring it in for review don’t worry
Worth it, I wouldn’t go down that road, because once you’re beyond the $3000 mark worth is not a part of this conversation anymore you can get amazing stuff in this category and be happy What is very subjective and only applies to the individuals pocket And yet we still have to dissect this a little bit further and see value value is a different proposition Let’s just say you’ve built a 30 K system or a 50 K system or even a 250 K2 channel system, every percent is again and that’s the category we’re talking about
A cheaper alternative, but by no means is it a winner, you’re stuck with HQ player only and only local music, MSkala and quartet are systemwide for everything different use cases
It means nothing bad, they are built from the ground upwards to be single ended and it’s the same technicality and performance as balanced. The reason why things are so skewed in the market in this manner is because single end it is always after thought and most things are pretty shit in this regard, you will not have such issues with chord.
@ConvinceMeAudio sorry but I've been buying and selling hifi for 45 years. I've had the tt2 and m scaler and I'm sorry but nothing compares to a true balanced xlr set up. Just my findings over the years and my preference.
@@oohtob6685 that’s fascinating, predominantly here everything is balanced. I’ve always done it this way even from the engineering side of things in the studio, but a few super flagship products have come in that are innately single ended and have been designed in such a way. And when doing side-by-side testing in regards to sonic quality characteristics transparency they seem to be fine and on Paul, I just don’t like RCA cables personally Lol
Rob Watts is the King of unsubstantiated claims which he passes on as scientific facts when they are just his own unproven assertions. Nothing new in this industry, of course, but he's a Master of this. If one challenges him on these he resorts to saying HE can hear those things so that's the end of that discussion...
Just because something isn't scientifically proven does not mean it's not real. Do you actually know what science is or does someone need to send you a definition? Maybe a bit less negativity and spend more time on doing something constructive yourself. That would be a good start. If you know how to make a better dac go ahead and do it instead of posting silly comments.
I mean, why spend so much on an upsampler when you could just buy a better DAC? Things like outboard upsamplers are like monoblocks...great at the ultra high-end, but kind of unnecessary for the middle class and below.
I think this is the wrong direction of looking at it, but I do understand where you’re coming from. This is a foundation of something that you can use to enhance what you already have, but I need to test it with Dave to see if it measures up to WD signature, because honestly I think that’s a tough cell otherwise that’s already 25K together roughly and 25K you can buy Poseidon or WD ultra when it comes out so it’s a very very interesting scenario that we have to look into.
@@johnlim9009 Right, but my point is that if you're buying an ultra-high end system with something like A DCS Vivaldi or Esoteric Grandioso, an outboard upsampler makes a lot of sense as cost is no object, but when you're shopping on a budget, focusing on parts and engineering typically is a better way to spend than on more boxes that do distinct functions.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I think it’s so much better looking than a boring black box. I have a Dave and everyone always asks what it is and is interested in talking about it.
With the conclusion of Munich high in 2024, this is the very first of many videos covering the event.
Great pleasure as always those of you I met at the show, and hope to see more of you at future shows.
If you could share and like and all the rest for I believe this is the first video on the quartet on TH-cam we would appreciate it a good deal
CMA
Great convo! Exciting stuff for after I win the lottery… Rob is looking good these days, which is great to see! Hope some of this trickles down into a Qutest 2, Mojo 3, or similar 🙂
your genuine excitement and connection between you is great
Exciting to finally see it. Great stuff.
I definitely need to get to a show some time to listen to many things but i really want to see if this Chord stuff is really worth the asking price. Their stuff is crazy expensive but everyone says it sound so unique. Would love to give it a listen.
Definitely going to audition these things is advisable. I never recommend anything purchased blind beyond a certain price point it’s insanity.
Chord dacs always sound so fussfree, engaging. The fact that 16/44 is all you need was elemental for mr Watts already several years back. It is only now an idea that crosses into mainstream thinking. I do wonder if a trickle down version in the Hugo pricerange will come, though.
A fascinating and tantalising video. Any chance you can give us a video explanation of this gear for the layman like me?
I can point you to the Hugo M scaler review I did on the channel last year. It will give you a fantastic foundation of what is actually happening to understand this one.
@@ConvinceMeAudio I saw that and remember it. Need to revisit it. An additional explanation of this Upscaler Quartet and how it fits into the set up would be appreciated too. If you ever get the time. Thanks for posting this one anyway. Enjoy your videos.
@@Lego6980 I will put it on the list, I am planning to introduce a video every three days answering a question or certain aspect of Audio and releasing three videos a month that are full reviews from now on so that we can grow the channel. I will put this on the list as one of those
You have a double like from me.
Cheers bud deeply appreciate it 🐅
Opinion appears to be very divided on sonic effects of the m-scalar. I haven't heard it myself but looking forward to it and this upgraded scalar.
Just use hqplayer with a very good pc, far better if ur pc is capable (need a lot of hp for this tho)
@@ClassifiedBrief haha dude you cant compare software to hardware stuff its not even in the same league.
@@JonnyParker- HQPlayer and the MScaler or Quartet are literally performing the exact same mathematical operations (maybe slightly different filter coefficients, but same filter structure, same goal). Other than possibly issues with cleanliness of digital outputs on your PC (since the Chord scalers are also DDCs), they are functionally the same.
@@XmqApT4yPQVCXGwR5Ozn yeah there is that Polish company who makes PC components for higher end stuff I can't recall their name now but looked into them a few years back looking for a better USB for connecting TT2 to PC but I don't know how much difference it will make if you are not running decent power conditioners as well . Haven't used HQ player I just stick to Deadbeef it's lightweight and sounds clean as can be running fully through ALSA no software conversions at all.
I will be upgrading everything soon and making a full audio production pc to get back into producing been way too long for me dude .
So any update, no new from Chord
@@stephenmckinley9347 sadly and unfortunately not yet, I am not too sure if the unit is even ready for the prime time release it was supposed to be August
Maybe the project has been delayed due to further development for another few months I don’t know
I saw you Bro in saturday (3. Day) at Austrian Audio section .. 😘🎊🙏
Hope it comes with a better remote, that can control it as one system and doesn’t feel like it came free in a cereal box
Thankyou for this.. now im even more sad i wasnt there missing the chance of meeting you also beside hearing Quartet.
You should hear my ootic linked Choral housed Mscaler and cap modified Dave with aggressive mains filter applied 😎
Btw i already posted some film shorts of a friend who was there.. see my channel
That’s a shame, hopefully at the next meeting, will definitely check it out, I found Rob‘s comments in regards to high-quality BNC cables not been necessary for this one. I will definitely put it aside and have a look side-by-side with storm when this unit comes in for review.
lad he focused on RF noise as this was an issue with the current Mscaler.
Great to see the DCA Stealth being used as the reference headphones.
How many taps? Did I miss it?
4m
Did you try/demo Suzi?
The cute little integrated that sat beneath the Hugo to, I did but for a very short duration as the interview was booked in advance, I’m going to bring it in for review don’t worry
Why he wearing shades indoors?
I may be totally wrong... but I believe he shares same abilities as Stevie Wonder
🤣🤣🤣 that is some serious praise indeed, but yes we both tend to smash into a door if we don’t know it’s there 😆
Is the enhanced difference in audible sound worth a 10k price tag ? , as I doubt it will be south of this for both components .
Worth it, I wouldn’t go down that road, because once you’re beyond the $3000 mark worth is not a part of this conversation anymore you can get amazing stuff in this category and be happy
What is very subjective and only applies to the individuals pocket
And yet we still have to dissect this a little bit further and see value value is a different proposition
Let’s just say you’ve built a 30 K system or a 50 K system or even a 250 K2 channel system, every percent is again and that’s the category we’re talking about
@@ConvinceMeAudio I still hope to be Convinced .
This is amazing I hope he makes a Dave DAC flagship replacement worthy of this scaler
It was quite impressive certainly I think Dave replacement will be awhile yet.
@@ConvinceMeAudio and it’s probably going to be two chassis and I’m guessing 25-30 grand
It is jewel chassis, one for the power supply, and it will be around £15,000-£12,000 above Dave but not that much
@@ConvinceMeAudio I am saying Dave 2 prices
@@ConvinceMeAudiodual?
Top men 👻
Just use hqplayer with a very good pc, it's far better If you have a very power pc with a 4080 or 4090 nvidia gpu
A cheaper alternative, but by no means is it a winner, you’re stuck with HQ player only and only local music, MSkala and quartet are systemwide for everything different use cases
I was there, ill tried and absolutely dont like it
quantum computing hahaha common bro.. not made for that at all..
Haha I think my point was more emphasis on exponential computing power versus traditional LOL rather than direct implementation 😂
That was hilarious 😂
The only thing that stops me going Chord is that none of there dacs are a true balanced design through xlr.
It means nothing bad, they are built from the ground upwards to be single ended and it’s the same technicality and performance as balanced. The reason why things are so skewed in the market in this manner is because single end it is always after thought and most things are pretty shit in this regard, you will not have such issues with chord.
@ConvinceMeAudio sorry but I've been buying and selling hifi for 45 years.
I've had the tt2 and m scaler and I'm sorry but nothing compares to a true balanced xlr set up.
Just my findings over the years and my preference.
@@oohtob6685 that’s fascinating, predominantly here everything is balanced. I’ve always done it this way even from the engineering side of things in the studio, but a few super flagship products have come in that are innately single ended and have been designed in such a way.
And when doing side-by-side testing in regards to sonic quality characteristics transparency they seem to be fine and on Paul, I just don’t like RCA cables personally Lol
Rob Watts is the King of unsubstantiated claims which he passes on as scientific facts when they are just his own unproven assertions. Nothing new in this industry, of course, but he's a Master of this. If one challenges him on these he resorts to saying HE can hear those things so that's the end of that discussion...
Who cares what he says? I care about how this thing sounds. If it’s phenomenal then I could care less if he thinks the earth is flat
Just because something isn't scientifically proven does not mean it's not real.
Do you actually know what science is or does someone need to send you a definition?
Maybe a bit less negativity and spend more time on doing something constructive yourself. That would be a good start.
If you know how to make a better dac go ahead and do it instead of posting silly comments.
I had many many expensive dacs. Everytime there was something I missed… untill I went for a tt2+mscaler, I never listen to music that much after that
I mean, why spend so much on an upsampler when you could just buy a better DAC? Things like outboard upsamplers are like monoblocks...great at the ultra high-end, but kind of unnecessary for the middle class and below.
I think this is the wrong direction of looking at it, but I do understand where you’re coming from. This is a foundation of something that you can use to enhance what you already have, but I need to test it with Dave to see if it measures up to WD signature, because honestly I think that’s a tough cell otherwise that’s already 25K together roughly and 25K you can buy Poseidon or WD ultra when it comes out so it’s a very very interesting scenario that we have to look into.
Well! In Hifi, there are low-fi, mid-fi and hi-fi. Pick which suite you most!
@@johnlim9009 Right, but my point is that if you're buying an ultra-high end system with something like A DCS Vivaldi or Esoteric Grandioso, an outboard upsampler makes a lot of sense as cost is no object, but when you're shopping on a budget, focusing on parts and engineering typically is a better way to spend than on more boxes that do distinct functions.
It’s too expensive and so bad looking - it make no sense
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I think it’s so much better looking than a boring black box. I have a Dave and everyone always asks what it is and is interested in talking about it.
Hqplayer. Better and cheaper if you have a very powerful pc