I must say I was there when we fought NOIR and players didn’t leave because of our defeat, but internal disagreements. Knew several of them for quite some time. 2 seasons before that NA had taken a 5v1 that was by far the best KvK I have ever played and several of those who left NK where there already in NA at that previous lost. BDO diplo is complicated at best. I see Chisgules comment on your video and saw he’s video trying to justify bashing weaker enemys and make their T5 join them. I was at their S1+ and can also say things where not smooth as “playing the meta” or “ understand in the game”. Even disagreeing with the trash talk e that Chisgules takes unfairly, BDO alliance is (or at least was at the time) far from that “just playing the meta” speech. Thank you for the content.
I get your points. to be honest, I feel like the loss in that season was the catalyst for many players leaving as well. it was also the last time for people to migrate with 5,000 gems. that loss just drove many people away from NA. if NA had won that season, it would have been a different story
Oh yeah, that was another one. we are guilty. not going to deny it. We also have an excuse for that kvk, TA & NK had already decided to merge before the matchmaking kvk was even announced
@@HulksdenGaming yeah, it seems it happens when there is a leadership perception that can't risk another loss. However, I think it more often backfires with non-competitive and boring seasons. I find most people are fine taking losses in this game as long as the team did their best and put up a good fight. There will always be alliance hoppers who think the grass is greener somewhere else, but I think most would rather stay on a team that just gives it their all, win or loose.
This is true, BDO R5 account Duhz x MP is literally funded by a developer related player. Duhz is simply the pilot. MP is even big in ROK. Dude has internal connections with the CEO
Saying EIS allying with ANCS not being a diplo win is a crazy take. The whole community agrees that EIS, a paragon kingdom, allying with ANCS, another paragon kingdom, with NA and other allies was a diplo win. Even the delusional EIS R5 admitted that season to be a diplo win.
I disagree with that. it is always difficult to make a better matchmaking when there are three powerful alliances in the kvk because two of them will Ally and the other one is screwed. Imagine BDO ANCS NF57 BOSSY. I am pretty sure BDO would have been accused of a Diplo win. The kvk would have gone either way. It's just that Eis was the first one to ally ancs. It's exactly the same with how bdo was the first one to pick the best AABB team for this new dragonfall map
ANCS is the paragon of the third CLASS lol wtf are you talking ? EIS (A) / NA (A) / VP22 (C) / ANCS (C) vs BDO (A) / NF57 (A) / GEN (B) / ROE (idk) / BOSY (idk)
@@Wonder3m Are you saying a 30b power kingdom is C? EIS and ANCS were the two strongest home kingdoms in the game during that KvK and would be A* (Paragon A) kingdoms and they wouldn't be able to ally each other going off the new matchmaking process. Also GEN was a 10b power kingdom just like VP22 and you have VP22 as a C kingdom and GEN as a B kingdom. I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about lol.
Noir didn’t give the crystal, they have earned their bad reputation for sure. The whole kvk was set up as a great 3 way fight and they decided in advance to f’k it.
No need to blame NOIR for last kvk, ECHO are the ones who screwed kvk. At first diplo was set ECHO NTS BxS FG vs NOIR GG Kong RK. Later dont know why ECHO told no allies they go 1 vs all. Thats how they ruined season for nts and bxs. Blame ECHO not NOIR
I think they have optimized their server and eliminated most of the Dead weights. The other servers probably have lots of farm accounts that give them a lot of power
It is always difficult to make a better matchmaking when there are 3 powerful alliances in the kvk because two of them will Ally and the other one is screwed. Imagine BDO ANCS NF57 BOSSY. I am pretty sure BDO would have been accused of a Diplo win. The kvk would have gone either way. It's just that Eis was the first one to ally ancs.
@@HulksdenGaming you think NA bdo and n57 vs eis ANCS roe and dbb wouldn't have been a better match up? You're lying to yourself. At that time ANCS was still a top 5 kingdom. So no one would've called that a diplo win.
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O damn papi hulksden is on fire telling some trues .
I must say I was there when we fought NOIR and players didn’t leave because of our defeat, but internal disagreements. Knew several of them for quite some time. 2 seasons before that NA had taken a 5v1 that was by far the best KvK I have ever played and several of those who left NK where there already in NA at that previous lost.
BDO diplo is complicated at best. I see Chisgules comment on your video and saw he’s video trying to justify bashing weaker enemys and make their T5 join them. I was at their S1+ and can also say things where not smooth as “playing the meta” or “ understand in the game”. Even disagreeing with the trash talk e that Chisgules takes unfairly, BDO alliance is (or at least was at the time) far from that “just playing the meta” speech.
Thank you for the content.
I get your points. to be honest, I feel like the loss in that season was the catalyst for many players leaving as well. it was also the last time for people to migrate with 5,000 gems. that loss just drove many people away from NA. if NA had won that season, it would have been a different story
You missed out on the TA + NK diplomacy meta against bkar and km when your camp is double the power of the other side
Oh yeah, that was another one. we are guilty. not going to deny it. We also have an excuse for that kvk, TA & NK had already decided to merge before the matchmaking kvk was even announced
@@HulksdenGamingthe season before that u fought 4vs2 (1) against GG
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when BDO diplo wins its a "rebuild" and "recovery season" keep that in mind since their r5 is sponsored by devs its okay if they do it
Almost all the alliances in the game are guilty of Diplo wins. none of them should deny it
@@HulksdenGaming yeah, it seems it happens when there is a leadership perception that can't risk another loss.
However, I think it more often backfires with non-competitive and boring seasons. I find most people are fine taking losses in this game as long as the team did their best and put up a good fight. There will always be alliance hoppers who think the grass is greener somewhere else, but I think most would rather stay on a team that just gives it their all, win or loose.
@@clansolace so true
This is true, BDO R5 account Duhz x MP is literally funded by a developer related player. Duhz is simply the pilot. MP is even big in ROK. Dude has internal connections with the CEO
@ you seem pretty certain of this accusation. Do you have any evidence or is this just your opinion or a rumor you heard?
not sure what a recovery season means Hulksden sorry
What about YOUR season lol. Diplo wasn’t even close to being balanced…NOBODY thought the season could go either way.
You should ask BDO because they hate us so much they won't ally with NA because of a betrayal meta that we know nothing about
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Saying EIS allying with ANCS not being a diplo win is a crazy take. The whole community agrees that EIS, a paragon kingdom, allying with ANCS, another paragon kingdom, with NA and other allies was a diplo win. Even the delusional EIS R5 admitted that season to be a diplo win.
I disagree with that. it is always difficult to make a better matchmaking when there are three powerful alliances in the kvk because two of them will Ally and the other one is screwed. Imagine BDO ANCS NF57 BOSSY. I am pretty sure BDO would have been accused of a Diplo win. The kvk would have gone either way. It's just that Eis was the first one to ally ancs. It's exactly the same with how bdo was the first one to pick the best AABB team for this new dragonfall map
ANCS is the paragon of the third CLASS lol wtf are you talking ?
EIS (A) / NA (A) / VP22 (C) / ANCS (C)
vs
BDO (A) / NF57 (A) / GEN (B) / ROE (idk) / BOSY (idk)
@@Wonder3m Are you saying a 30b power kingdom is C? EIS and ANCS were the two strongest home kingdoms in the game during that KvK and would be A* (Paragon A) kingdoms and they wouldn't be able to ally each other going off the new matchmaking process. Also GEN was a 10b power kingdom just like VP22 and you have VP22 as a C kingdom and GEN as a B kingdom. I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about lol.
@@Wonder3mthat’s after part of ancs migrated to 66, when they were in 23 the server power is different
dude at least look at the kingdom power and stats lmao, BDO clearly had the advantage in regards to matchups for that kvk
Noir didn’t give the crystal, they have earned their bad reputation for sure. The whole kvk was set up as a great 3 way fight and they decided in advance to f’k it.
Ouch. That Crystal thing is disappointing lol
No noir didnt give kong and rk their well deserved crystal kong and rk got scammed tbh
That was so terrible and disappointing. I was like OMG
6:20 lol
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No need to blame NOIR for last kvk, ECHO are the ones who screwed kvk. At first diplo was set ECHO NTS BxS FG vs NOIR GG Kong RK. Later dont know why ECHO told no allies they go 1 vs all. Thats how they ruined season for nts and bxs. Blame ECHO not NOIR
NOIR consisted of the strongest players and go crazy on diplo to have an easy kvk
That was a match created by Noir without contacting others. From what I have heard.
Echo pioneers knowing they are dangerous and took on as much of a challenge as possible, absolute chads
how the hell BDO was not a paragon kingdom?? those guys are too strong right now!
ECHO has 800m more power than BDO though....
I think they have optimized their server and eliminated most of the Dead weights. The other servers probably have lots of farm accounts that give them a lot of power
Saying last season was not a diplo win is insane 💀 two paragon + NA and company vs Bdo nf57 and two random 💀
ANCS is paragon of the third CLASS è_é
It is always difficult to make a better matchmaking when there are 3 powerful alliances in the kvk because two of them will Ally and the other one is screwed. Imagine BDO ANCS NF57 BOSSY. I am pretty sure BDO would have been accused of a Diplo win. The kvk would have gone either way. It's just that Eis was the first one to ally ancs.
@@HulksdenGaming you think NA bdo and n57 vs eis ANCS roe and dbb wouldn't have been a better match up? You're lying to yourself. At that time ANCS was still a top 5 kingdom. So no one would've called that a diplo win.
@@DontAtMeh NA and BDO has huge animosity they aint allying
@@DontAtMeh bdo themselves said they would not ally NA so that matchup wasn’t even a possibility