Triumph Adventure Mystery - Why are Triumph adventure bikes so likeable?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Adventure riders are generally a loyal bunch. You get the GS brigade, the orange brigade, the Italians and those Japanese die-hards. Yet, you bring up Triumph and everyone seems to suspend whatever allegiance they previously held to nod in approval. Why is that? Donovan and Harry attempt to find out.
Okay admission time. I loved my Tiger solo. Even solo with luggage. I loved the triple whistle. I Ioved the comfort. I hated the wind noise and I hated the top-heaviness. This is the only bike I ever dropped with a pillion and luggage and it happened twice; once on a stall and once just coming to a stop. Solo they are fine but load up a pillion and full luggage and they become really easy to tip due the high CoG of the triple engine. Mine had to go because I do lots of two up riding.
Seems like even a small man on tip toes with luggage and a pillion can still balance a r1200gsa. That bike balances like a miracle.
@@chrisredfield3240 yes! I took a friends 1200 GS for a wee spin and even taking it off the side stand was enlightening, felt like there was no weight to it at all. 👍
@@critch. i got the f800gs but a r1250gs in blue is looking so tempting. Even comes with the TFT and LED headlight as standard now. Unless you ride one you don't realise how good they are. Balance comfort engine flexibility and handling is hard to beat as a all round package.
@@chrisredfield3240 I went the more hooligan approach with the KTM but the GS and the XR were on my list. 👍
@@critch. do you think the new F900XR looks interesting. Nothing else before it has had 7.1" of suspension travel in that sort of bike and 105hp looks useful
Great review as always. I'm starting to feel a bit jaded by all the electronics, modes, etc on bikes. It's a huge layer of complexity that will at some point break. Deffo wouldn't be great if you were on an adventure!
Well, I understand your point.
But wires that connects all of the computers inside rarely go bad. I mean, there are literally no bikes with a kick starter now. It's the same thing but with other things now.
Main difference for me is the drive shaft... If you buy one of this bike to cross country/continent .. a final drive with zero maintenance worth a little bit of extra money.
( Cheers from international audience)
So I don't have much experience with drive shaft bikes, Don't they kinda under torque and pull the bike to one direction or another? Also they are heavy so on Superbikes that's why not manufacture runs them.
@@Porschemovies well... that's was the case maybe in the 70's ...but nowadays you can't feel a shaft drive, especially on a big trail/adventure bikes. you might lose a bit of torque and add a bit of weight.... True, but I don't think that guys on big GS, super Ténéré or tigers are chasing seconds on a racetrack ;-)
I own a vfr1200f 10 years long. True fact
The true reason more bikes don't have shaft drive has less to do with shaft Jack and more to do with parasitic drag shaft drive although it has basically no maintenance does create what's called parasitic drag meaning that your overall horsepower fuel economy and other stats will be lowered simply by the fact that you have a shaft push this is mostly caused by the 90-degree gear angles where the shaft meets the transmission and where it meets the rear ring gear
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The kawasaki versys 1000 2019 seems a powerful lightish (for the engine size) and good value. Something in between these two Triumphs.
Lost my 95yr old dad end of July but unexpectedly lost my 68yrold brother less than 3 weeks prior to that.....covid and too many cigarettes. Only positive is my 24 year old son is going to get my brother's 07 tiger 1050 abs. It does have the hard bags also, only about 10.5k mi on it. Cosmetically not perfect, still has the original Michelin road's on it.😮A new set of tires and he'll be rolling again. I'm 62 and have a mt10 that is a tuned stick of dynamite, often wish I were riding this instead.
Afther a year on my 800,l can say that it will do the job as good as the 1200. Two up and luggage are no sweat what so ever sins the bike feels like it has 6 1st gears. Wife is very comfy on the back. My 2011mod needs a bigger windscreen and thats it. The 2018 must be perfect.
I'd be intrested in a middle weight comparsion, Tiger 800. F850GS and 790 Adventure.
I had an 800 Tiger for 2.5 years took it to Europe loved it but now have changed for something completely different the Triumph Speedmaster 1200😳
I love my Speedmaster and am fancying a Tiger 800/900 as my next purchase.
surprise, surprise, Donovan likes the one with more power.... it is simple, if you are riding solo, it is the 800, if two up, it is the 1200.
Love 'em mostly but the top heavy CoG let's it down, especially on the 1200. That aside, they are lovely bikes.
*For 2020 Please Get More GoPro Chin Mount Views*
New for 2019? Video published Jan 2020? Get it right, it's not complicated, we have a new year 12 months.
They are going through a short backlog of videos that were televised on cable TV before being uploaded to youtube.
Get a clue
These are a year old!!
Every thing these guys put out are outdated by months now a year
Because of their new streaming service. It's just common sense, they're not going to give you the show for free. They've got mortgages to pay off. I pay for the app because I like the show and I'm not a c**t.
Phil Clarke no one claimed you were.
I was not aware of their app and I’ll subscribe.
However, other motorcycle reviewer seem to put out their content at relevance. They count on viewers and subscribers to get paid with the occasional donation.
The 'mystical' quality is comfort. Tigers are the most comfortable bikes on the market . Secondly, the amazing sound of the triple engines.
Gotta agree with the Brits - I love the 800, the 1200....not so much, just waaay too lardy when compared to the likes of the BMW GS that carries it's weight much lower than the big Tiger 1200. I recently got back from a tour in Thailand on the outgoing Tiger 800, loved every moment, even with my Mrs as a pillion on board. Can't wait to have a go on the new Tiger 900.....couldn't care less if I never ride a Tiger 1200 again....GS beater it aint...Tiger 900 may just be...
Head on the nail TMF! The 1200 is just way too top heavy. The 800 is peachy, but that a new 900 looks to be a great package on paper.
I love the 1200 but that CoG always looked worrying to me. I had an idea of that issue with a 2001 vfr800 that used to change sensibly with full tank (worst) to half and less (much better). Now with a vfr1200F CoG wise I found the perfect bike (not distant conceptually from Triumph 1200, perfect for me).
I'm just wondering if the suspension on the Tiger 900 will be delivering a ride that it's just a smooth/plush on degraded roads as the Tiger 1200 with its electrical suspension.
3 cylinder is the big advantage , get off an 800 onto anything else and you notice the vibration of 2 cylinder bikes !
I used to have the 800, A 2011 reg great bike. Thoughts, Why would i want anything else when the 800 does what i need. But i did want the 1200. Im always two up now and like he said would be better for that. In the end i moved to a Rocket 3. Lower down and my smaller passenger prefares that. But the boy in me still admires that 1200. But i am happy with our Rocket now after having one for 2 years and i also miss the sprint 1050 i had. But thats for selfish reasons. She didnt like those tight corners. Oh well im getting closer to 60 now, So time to slow things down.
1:41 The Bonneville is exactly like that. You just grin like an idiot as you toodle down from your driveway.....I miss my Bonney
I have 2013 800 XC with 70000 miles and love it. It's been to the Dalton hwy Alaska two up with my son, San Diego California, South Padre Island Texas, Upper Michigan to Orlando Florida and a ton of places in between. Some of its on my channel. My son wants it one day, he said dad we had great times on this bike.
2020?
2018
Tiger 900 rally pro
Had seventeen bikes since I passed my test in 1964 three bikes stand out, my brothers Vellocette venom 500 ( which I wrecked ) 1976 Ducati 900 pr version and after a trio of BMW’s my little Tiger 800 acx after great lumps with snatchy gear changes the tiger is my keeper as I’m seventy eight coming on seventy nine.
it's called " Christmas " not the holiday
Tiger 800 is a great bike as is the 900, but only for what I'd call "Day Adventure Riding". The 1200 is the bike Is choose for carrying fully loaded cases & a passenger, such as some serious adventure rides, like taking on the Dalton Highway in Alaska, especially as it has shaft drive.
Either makes great daily rides & are WAAAYYYY better than the bland BMW GS range....& a damned sight cheaper too!
I'll tell you what went wrong. The bloke on the 800's hair. Like a freaking middle-aged gonk. Love the Tiger 1200 XCa, bloody marvelous.
Ah, so true. I bought a new 2017 Triumph 1200 XRT (top equipped model) and drove it 23,500 miles over 99 days from Tampa to Key West to Madawaska ME to Copper Harbor UP to Glacier NP to Fairbanks & Homer AK to Blaine WA to San Isidro CA to UT etc etc to ...47 states, all by myself, at 73 years of age. Wonderful, spectacular bike, and experience. Fell 3 times, dropped it twice. Had helpers, and needed them, to get back up. No harm to me, the bike, or any of God's little creatures in the making of the adventure. It IS a beast of a bike. But I loved the adventure it enabled and its flawless, trouble-free behavior. Last summer did 5,000 miles in 21 days again from Tampa to Jackson MS to Chicago thru MI across the Mackinac to Ottawa and Montreal and backdown the E Coast, making now a total of 49 states. I have written a post detailing my 35,000 miles of experience with the 1200 at my website, which address may not come through on this post. I named my bike, which is an absolute necessity in my opinion, "Nicodemus," because its smart (computers) and powerful (140 HP), but doesn't know God, like its namesake in Chapter 3 of the Gospel of John. You could search for my website, and the travel stories and experience, by Route66Adventure and then try a variant ending. (I don't sell anything on the website--it's just travel adventure stories).
Look it's Tommy Lee, James Cordan, and Anthony Hopkins....talking motorcycles!!
I liked mine a lot - nice Explorer 1200. But at 20,000km it cost me A$4,000 to fix one of its problems.
I really like your program by the way - fantastic job.
What was your problem? I have a low mileage 2017 and would like to know if I should be expecting something.
Jet Taylor the computer failed out of the blue. After that happened I googled explorer problems and found that has happened before with other owners. So a new $4000 computer was the only way to get the bike running again. I now have a nice reliable VStrom.
900 fixes the problem of being too top heavy and better low down, midrange. Just wish Triumph would put out a shaft drive 900.
the sound on the video is not very good.
I love my 2019 Triumph Tiger 800 XCA!!!
Great bikes, great engines.......just top heavy!
Only until you are rolling. I curse as I heave my Tiger 1200 XCa around the garage but the grin is a thousand fold when riding.
Things that make you want the 1200:
1) When you put Triumph Tiger 800 engine and fuel tank guards on, and the first time the bike tips over, the indicator punches through the plastics.
(I think that's why they finally moved them on the new 900's)
Nice bikes but if you're not riding two up I'd rather have the Harley 1200 Sportster.
because the built quality of the Triumph is way better than the BWM and KTM....FACT! But come on guys! the 800 is for chicks and the 1200´s for dudes!
Great motors but the rest is too road focused. The first manufacturer that releases an alternative to the KTM 790 Adventure with more off-road aggression wins. The market is there.
We almost got it from Aprilia 8 or 9 years ago with the RXV 450 & 550 twin but they made a scream queen motor, and bitches are always tripping over nothing...
If the Tiger 800 motor suddenly appeared in an enduro chassis with a 19 up front and a 17 on the back, there would not be enough production capacity at Hinckley to support the demand, the whole world would go crazy.
Seriously, quick show of hands, who thinks the KTM 1290 Adventure/ Tiger 1200/ BMW1250GS would win at The Roof? How about a 135kg KTM EXC 790 Twin with lights and a number plate stripped off... I'd bet on a podium finish
What the ReAL adventure crowd wants is an enduro bike with a 6th gear to do 160kph on the highway for 100km without running out of fuel, to get to the real gnar out in the sticks, and then not be stuck with a fake off-road bike that needs TC and ABS to manage it's huge whale ass. We don't mind a bit of buzz from knobbly tyres, we got the real trophies at school not the participation trophies.
I mean seriously, hill assist? What's next? Hopping a helicopter charter to the top of Everest and take a selfie...?
Some fake ass bullshit LOL
1st : the indeniables qualities (including the sound) of the triples !
2nd : ... chauvinism ?
(as happy owner of a T3 since 1996 i've tested all the tigers except the last 900 but also some others trailbikes)
Good luck finding a dealership
I had an 800 Tiger but fell out with Triumph as the wheel spokes went rusty. The brakes for really poor too.
I have both a 1200 and 800, I prefer the 800 just cuz it is lighter, only difference is you have work the gears more often. If I’m sticking on to pave and fast highway I will pick the 1200 tho.
The styling looks much better on the 1200. I always wanted the 1200 with the 800 engine. All the higher specs bolted on aluminium rear pegs etc. The tank and beak look much too rounded on the 800. And even the 2020 tiger 900 had that 100/90/19 front tyre why so narrow ?
My 800XC was the worst purchase I ever made. I'll never own another Triumph. One was enough for me. What a POS. Bad bike, bad dealer, bad manufacturer support.
The vid does not reflect the original question "What ist it that makes Triumph's special?" and turns into a 800 vs 1200 (in the comments below it goes even against other models / brands). Neither of them is better than the other (nor in comparison to any other brand / model) as it really depends on what you intend to do with it. Still, Triumph has something that goes under someone's skin, that other brands cant offer which - in the end - makes you want one, even against better knowledge. Stay safe
Right now I only have one bike, a Honda CRF Rally, and a couple years down the line I definitely want a bigger bike - most of my top picks are Japanese, but the Tiger 800 is amazingly high on my shopping list (and the 900 may end up there as well)
I don't agree with the "cant find anything wrong with em" statement. I owned one and it is a great bike in many ways. But being so top heavy combined with, atleast on the earlier 800 versions from 2011 , easy to stall on first gear makes for a less easy and relaxing while riding in low speed maneuvers.
I had. 800xc. Very well built machine. To heavy for me in off road. I barely had the strength to pick it up when it fell over. Also worried about scratching it up. Gearing good for street.
Now if they produced an 800 with a shaft drive that would be perfect!
Look at Moto Guzzi v85tt.....I did and it’s fantastic 👍
Only problem with that is too much extra weight.
Big Trev W the v85tt and Tiger 800 are similar weight..and lighter than any 1200 Adventure bike
I had a Tiger 800 and loved it, but someone changing lanes and not paying attention hit me and the damages to the bike ended up as a total loss.
So I decided to get a 1200 Explorer next, hated it. Top heavy, wide turns, slow for it's engine and very comfortable off road. It was great on the open highway, but that was it.
Ok it was like this for me I looked at bmw sat on ktm and then I saw the 1200 xca the weight didnt matter to me the hp didnt matter to me either but like one person said maybe shaft drive but I dont think so I think for me it was the way it fit me never even test tode it but when I did take it home I couldn't get the smile off my face but for me it was everything about the way it looks I just got lucky with all the other things the 1200xca has to offer
Now that you've done this I wish you'd do a Triumph 1200 vs the BMW R1250GS comparison....
My 2019 Tiger 800 XCa has that “IT” factor. Can’t explain it, just know it when I feel it. Closest I’ve come is this “when you park the bike, while walking away if you don’t look back, you bought the wrong bike”. 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸
Versys 650 fan here haha
Love the versys and I've come from two tiger road and xc bloody good bikes...but versys ticks all my touring boxes now.. cheers from dave
I went from an 800XC (worst purchase I ever made) to a Versys 1000. Only regret I have is that I should have bought the 650 instead.
Versys 650 is one of the most underrated bike atm. Its more a sport tourer than an adventure bike. Great city/commuter bike, comfy for long distance, great in the twisties. Next to no electronics and adjustable suspension. The Weestrom is good too but it's a bit more expensive. I have a KTM 1190 and alot of the time I wish I had something smaller and the verseys would fit the bill perfectly. If only it had an extra 80hp and could tackle some off road.
Honestly, the Versys or Strom 650s are all the bike anyone needs, especially if you have no huge off-road ambitions (though in South Africa I might pick the slightly more rugged option of the Strom)
It's just too road focused for me, but it's still a great motor
I have a triumph 1050 tiger sport touring and I also have a speed triple and it is the 3 cylinder motor once you ride it then you have to have one linear torque for ever it's just a beautiful machine
Have the 800 for a weekend warrior.
Have the 1200 for retirement continental travel adventure
Are they? 😂😂😂
How much did Triumph pay for this commercial?
Are they really? Is that why they have released a totally revised series of models?
I like triumph but on the Thunderbird tradition wich I dont see new production of it
And now we are on the threshold of the new 900 launch!
I own a 2011 road and love it.Jim in Canada.
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800 all the way 👍
Awesome reviews as always. Thx guys! PS I have mentioned this before, but the audio is still a bit bad. Hope you can look into it at some point.
The Triumph adventure bikes, throw excessive heat onto the rider!!
Are we watching 1 year old footage???? 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔
Own a BMW, but wear Triumph kit.... hmmm where is my heart really????
Triumph make nice clothing.
Did you just say that last week you introduced us to "2019"?
2019, are they that slow at releasing new videos?
I have the 2019 Tiger 800 XrT and it’s objectively a great motorcycle. But I’m finding it a bit dull and I haven’t been riding it. Maybe they have gotten a bit too... German.
2019?
Made in Thailand and sold at German prices. No thanks.
You need to buy some proper roads in shitsville
Triumphs? They survive on nostalgia..basically rubbish..just like Range Rovers..