What I don't understand is how was her body found 40 feet away from where the shell casings were located. They were on dry land and Mica ended up in the water. Just trying to make sense of it all. I do not believe Mica took her own life and nothing will ever convince me she did.
Gavin, this was an awesome live, im watching later, but I love this guy Brian, I feel that I got such education. I'm a DV survivor and if I knew the things he was educating us then my situation would of changed sooner. Poor Mica she was in a lot of danger with JPs whole family. So tragic. Thank you for educating us.
Thank you for diving into DV dynamics and the dangers of strangulation! I’m a DV victims advocate and I so rarely see anything educational like this in true crime. Even though a huge portion of murders are DV, it’s never actually mentioned in the story.
This entire case revolves around coercive abuse, physical, emotional, financial & spiritual abuse. I believe Micas case is going to be studied for years to come regarding DV. It could also be used as what not to do for law enforcement. As a survivor & advocate, this case really resonates. I always feel like I could've been Mica. I was just more fortunate to have a safety net.
Laws need revising. Reason being, more people coming in to the country and not being checked appropriately. I have been saying this to politicians in Canada, as our laws are not good and crime is on rise in Canada, as used to be one the safest place to live in the world.
On her 911 call, she sounds too robotic and when she says i want my family to find me, why would she go all the way down thru muddy path to the water. imo the parking lot would be easier to find her.
What I don't understand is how an sexstortion law passes within a year but, women die every few minutes from Domestic Violence and its still not a priority???? I truly believe not enough men have experienced or died from DV because if they did, it would already be passed.
JP told people that Mica thought AI was going to get her. He can't seem to stop talking and I believe he told on himself and confirmed that AI was used for that call.
What this poor woman went through locked in a relationship with him. Also, he and other older men started grooming young girls in the church to be the women they wanted so he felt he could completely control her. Disgusting
Ive followed hours upon hours of info since day one about Mica Francis. That is her maiden name. Anyone who has researched and heard ALL the evidence KNOWS Mica was in her right mind. She was abused on all levels and drugged. She was gas lighted and gang stalked. Not only has info come out about her, but all of J.P's friends, family, associates, plus all the records from places she was INVOLUNTARY committed. I heard once he hit her in throat area. She had no mental or intellectual deficits. Apparantly she was drugged consistently. There are multiple testimonies from previous church members, family, coworkers, who vouch for her. The police report, crime scene, and immediate cremation orchestrated by J.P. is a JOKE. RED FLAGS ALL OVER THIS CASE. The 7 years of horrific DV, on every conceivable level will blow your mind. She was the strongest person one could imagine which could have survived like she did for what she endured. The LIES which J.P. told are so numerous it defies your imagination. She told multiple people she feared for her life. Stated if I'm found dead and a bullitt in my brain J.P. staged it to make it look like a suicide. His ex wife has taken him to court to remove children. He stalked her too. You can listen while her affidavits read verbatim. Multiple sexual encounters of under age girls at the church. Some have now pressed charges. There are money problems brought out also in the church. Mica took journals, folders and alerted IRS and other authorities. Please don't insinuate she unalived herself. This case stinks to high heaven. Her death top of the iceberg. FBI still on this case. The more info which comes out that is collaborated the more you understand there are many players in this ongoing saga. She wasn't a religious fanatic either. She was worship leader, worked with youth, assisted with many other functions at church. People report her kind, caring, talented, genuine, and a committed Christian. She finally filed for divorce. She was dead 2 days after papers served to J.P. . Please take time to invest what several Podcaster have uncovered in this ongoing investigation. There are hours on end to hear. Mica needs JUSTICE. ALL the info I've stated came from those who have dug deep and wide in this case. It is beyond heartbreaking. The abuse staggering. RIP MICA.
The thing that baffles me is how she went into the shop and casually bought the gun that was used in her death ? How do we explain that part of her trip ?
Yep! Ive followed since day 1. JPs connections with local PD ran far & wide. They failed Mica. I believe its gonna come out that local PD is in someway involved. Micas case should be studied for years to come on DV, coercive control, narcissim, sociopath, & what law enforcement SHOULDN'T do.
@@valerieslater-t1vmaybe she bought it for self protection? I was taught to not carry a weapon because if an assailant got it away from me, he’d use it against me. Something to think about it, you gotta be ready to use it to defend yourself at all times.
Protection? There’s also a theory that she was forced to buy it (blackmailed, etc) and some speculation that 2 other men in the surveillance video in the pawn shop appear to just be in there subtly watching her make the purchase. They come in after her, stand around for a bit in her vicinity. The point is that the fact that she purchased the gun doesn’t mean she meant to use it to take her own life.
Gavin! I just wanted to tell how much I appreciate your support and education for all victims. Your integrity is palpable and your work with families and highly respectful coverage does not go unnoticed. (Trigger warning ‼️) As an advocate and survivor who’s ex- spouse is currently imprisoned for repeated strangulation of 3 different women, I was impressed by the expert’s acknowledgment that anyone who utilizes this method has the mind of a killer. This abusive man had told me on more than one occasion about his belief that,” every man should be able to k*ll at least one woman in their lifetime “. Sociopathic abusers are fully aware of what the possible outcome could be, they simply do not care!
Great show. Very informative and compassionate in its delivery. It's a shame the investigators in Mica's case were nowhere near as thorough as this wonderful guest!
This is a great education for me. Brian needs to train civilians not only law enforcement. I feel even worse for sweet Mica after learning all this. She is never far from my mind. May she rest in peace.
I think of her often and wish so much that we could have saved her 🥺 I can't help but notice over and over again, if the purposed law benefits/protects men, it passes quickly but if it does the same for women, it takes years to get anything passed. It's shameful.
Especially in SC. They are still protecting the Good Ole Boys. JP was one of them but, I think that he's no longer being protected by local law enforcement now that the FBI have stepped in. He had an honorary police badge given to him by Horry County PD. All he had to do when being pulled over or in trouble was flash his badge. Furthermore, when JP went to a resturant to start a fight with DJ, the last guy Mica kissed, he punched DJ, then fled. Horry County PD called JP to check on HIM to make sure he was okay. This is the level of protection he had. Mica didn't stand a chance getting help.
@@AndromedasLight17 When Gavin said he didn't see why the police would lie, this was my first thought. Good ol' boys protect each other above all else. It's also possible that the police weren't lying. They're just so prejudiced toward other men that they can't see what's right in front of their face. "The preacher wouldn't do THAT! We all know women are crazy."
That 911 call has been on a few other creators content for a few months (True Sunlight Podcast, Robbie Harvey) I recommend those 2 for the most up to date info on the case. True Sunlight has filed dozens of FOIAs for this case.
Yep! Good Ole Boys protecting eachother. JP had an honorary Horry County PD badge they gave to him to flash if he was pulled over or ever got in trouble. They are corrupt and so are the PD in the county Mica was found. They failed her greatly & I do believe that it's going to come out that members of the PD are involved.
GF … you are such a treasure. Your content and the way you present it is unmatched! Blessings to you and your precious family ❤️ Wishing you all a merry Christmas, and a new year full of love!!
Replay crew here! I wish all law enforcement agencies had the training this amazing guest has (I'm not sure who he is, but I'll be looking into it!!). DV is very misunderstood by many. I resonated with everything he said and he really is spot on. I have had hands wrapped around my neck on more than one occasion and it is extremely scary. I'm very thankful to be here today. I tend to remain calm and not freak out in situations similar to Mica. RIP Mica. Your loss is tragic. You will never be forgotten. I believe we will see changes for the positive. Sad it takes such terrible tragedies for those important things to actually happen 😢❤
I hope this is reopened or something. We can’t trust that any autopsy wasn’t done by some crooked cop pal. Someone with heat and pressure on them by Robson county-a notoriously crooked police department with such a long history of being criminals. I’d like to see a real report. I wonder if she was cremated or can be exhumed??
@@KatenJaceHe warped her family in not being able to see her at the morgue or hospital, like in order t see her; He said they had to agree to let him have her body cremated. And as Christian’s, you usually don’t get cremated. You get buried..😢So he had her cremated..😪 Being he knew it’d be investigated and he’d end up in trouble most likely.🙄🫨 He’s wayyy off his rocker. (Speaking on JP).
Thank you. Watching from Alaska. 🤔 Education is crucial to the clarity of forensic examination of these cases. Most folks are at the elementary stages of ability to see clearly. Thank you.
Its a power play so JP didnt have to give her a dime & a smart move by Mica. If you are in a highly abusive relationship, objects mean nothing compared to freedom from the abuse. When I left my abuser, I left EVERYTHING because it was far more important to escape than it was to get my couch or bed. Those things can be replaced. Your life cannot.
I don't believe for a second that Mica took her own life! And after all these things that keep coming up, I don't understand why JP is still roaming free.
same here! This guy being interviewed says the same thing! Also it's a homicide unless proven otherwise! And the Chief of the police there is a woman, who goes to jp's church....sus
@sharinews 100% she as a Christian & would not do this. I've been through alot and still couldn't do it! Yes, no longer in pain or suffering his abuse, poor sweet girl. He needs to be in jail
It wasn’t until I went through training as an advocate that I found out a survivor should be observed for 24-72 hours afterwards as it can cause injury to the neck and brain and the symptoms may be delayed.
AI could have been used to make the call prior to her death. There was a witness who stated he heard a woman’s scream prior to the death. Hard to know. Her husband certainly could be the one that drove her to take her own life if that is what happened. She is free from his torment now! ❤🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
There is no wayy..mica did that to herself...she had plans for her future ..she had...after she would be divorced from that monster.. She was happy..she even told her loved ones if this happens ....he did it!!!
FYI If you EVER call police and you have ANY sort of mental ANYTHING ever written in your records, they put a CODE on your call history and history. This leads to bias and anyone talking to you to not take you seriously, they might not even write down why you are calling.
G.F. wasn't she found under a log or wood debris?? The first person 'boat' didn't see her... but the second kayaker did. Didn't one call the other by name? This is a Hinkey, HINKEY situation.
The FBI is not through with the investigation yet.. Robbie Harvey is telling that story about what they already found but they are still digging into the case
Unfortunately as a now retired nurse i have seen to many deceased people. They do tend to release urine and bowel after death. Even in my personal life i was with my mother and grandmother when they passed away but nursing staff took care of them after they died so of course they ask us to leave the room.
Too bad this gentleman wasn't on the scene of your friend's daughter's death scene. I'm sorry her name escapes me but I believe someone was named Goldstein. Perhaps that was the fiancee name. Pennsylvania needs all new cops, DA and medical examiner. Was that Pittsburgh or Philadelphia. I sure hope that sweet couple get answers about their daughters death while they are alive. Such a travesty of the justice system.
But explain, why wouldn't she know where she's at? There are signs out there. She should have easy said the name of the park. The dispatcher told her, where she was at, and she agreed after the fact. Something was very off the day she made the call for her family to find her. We just have to do a better job, when people call and say a family member can harm themself, and others. They failed her so miserly! I had to deal with that kind of the thing, I threatened to call the news everybody, and I did call everybody, and they came to help me with the person. I threaten to call the news on the hospital, and they started gathering stuff to get this person help then. If people would have thought to do things like that, maybe the sweet Mica would still be here. We can 't give up, call from the top of your lungs to everybody. Let's do better. If people cont, in these churches sitting back and allowing the pople to harm people , what is you point in going to church. She was begging for help. They failed her, so sad!
I dont know any victim of domestic violence who was strangled and many are, who had any desire to unalive themselves after such trauma. It is actually quite the opposite, there is a conscious effort to survive.
If one lives in the real world, adheres to reality, understands physics, knows the basics about the human body, and subscribes to facts, there's no way that Mica Miller willingly took her own life as the investigation concluded. No way!
If MB Police Dept done their job Mica would still be here. So many time she reported him and they done nothing. Most of them goes to his church. JusticeForMica 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜
I'm a little scared to hear the truth in this one.... so i had to be replay crew.... and i had my air ways obstructed more times than i can count. Its been a couple years but it's almost like the trauma really just started rearing its ugly head, because ive been so scared of him popping up and i stayed in full adrenaline mode the first couple years. Now I'm scared bc i feel like he wanted me dead and can they ever really let that idea go? I'm a bit scared to listen but i know knowledge is power.
So I train Jiu Jitsu and I get caught in choke holds often. I tap quickly and so do the people who I catch in Choke holds. Now, I'm curious if brain cell death is happening to me and my training partners.
It's the defense wounds for me .why would 💀victim have defense wounds?Also mica had a clear loud slightly gravelly voice.the mica impersonator has a thick southern drawl and says uhhhhhhhhh ummmmm alot.
This episode was very interesting and informative. Learned so much from Brian! Pet Peeve: All males are called Mr…… All women are addressed by their first name. I would love to know the reason why.
@GF. I have a history of minor strangulation by a partner. I immediately left but he ended up shooting hi s new wife years later. Crazy how your show opened my eyes.
I would say the son! Makes sense now! Jp had to perfect of an alibi and the neighbor said with out a doubt jp son who looks like dadio almost hit the neighbor driving like a bat outta hell! I say look into that son of his!
You can actually get someone to pass out, do things before they wake up. They will not remember. Also strangulation is illegal. It is physical harm. This is why JP cannot get hired anywhere. It is domestic violence.
Gavin r harvey did a video titled a fistful of bullets and he says their was a sitn that mica was in concerning being given a gun and some bullets by her husband I just thought id let you know
Gavin, Gavin , GAvin, you are showing your lack of knowledge and empathy again ! A person does NOT have to lose their temper to strangle... Some People are just EVIL ! They DON"T need to Lose their TEMPER!!!!!! oh, dear!
I had an acquaintance in a parking lot get really close to me and acted like he was going to kiss me but put his hands around my throat while smiling then said he was just joking. I never let him get near me again. And he was laughing. So they pretend to hold your head to kiss you, then move their hands down , so yep, no anger in him.
GAvin, I am TIRED of hearing your "insights" as to what happened... you don't have a CLUE what you are talking about and in actuality, I REALLY am concerned that you have a deep-seeded attitude AGAINST the credibility of women.... Based on LOTS of shows I have watched/ listened to. I REALLY feel your wife, your Older daughter and your younger daughter(s?).
Gavin. Mica killed herself. She chose to do this. You know this. A clear timeline of her actions leading up to her death proves this. She called 911 to let them know where to find her. Mica had mental health issues. Let her RIP. Sick of TH-camrs looking into something that isn’t there. I thought you were better than that. Don’t grift off this poor woman’s death.
What I don't understand is how was her body found 40 feet away from where the shell casings were located. They were on dry land and Mica ended up in the water. Just trying to make sense of it all. I do not believe Mica took her own life and nothing will ever convince me she did.
Not 40 feet...40 meters = 131 feet and a few inches.
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I have been waiting for an answer to this also.
We are in the USA we go by feet or yards we don't use meters
And then UNDER a log... 🤷🏼♀️
This
Gavin, this was an awesome live, im watching later, but I love this guy Brian, I feel that I got such education. I'm a DV survivor and if I knew the things he was educating us then my situation would of changed sooner. Poor Mica she was in a lot of danger with JPs whole family. So tragic. Thank you for educating us.
I’m glad you’re safe, Terry 🫶🏻
Thank you for diving into DV dynamics and the dangers of strangulation! I’m a DV victims advocate and I so rarely see anything educational like this in true crime. Even though a huge portion of murders are DV, it’s never actually mentioned in the story.
This entire case revolves around coercive abuse, physical, emotional, financial & spiritual abuse. I believe Micas case is going to be studied for years to come regarding DV. It could also be used as what not to do for law enforcement. As a survivor & advocate, this case really resonates. I always feel like I could've been Mica. I was just more fortunate to have a safety net.
There is no physical way she could have done any of this to herself.
Except she did
She didnt @@crippledalien5937
@@crippledalien5937we don’t know this. No forensics, autopsy, disturbed crime scenes
Does this gentleman have a TH-cam account? He is so interesting to listen to.
she shot herself in the head but her body was 131 feet from the shell casings? BS the body floated but not the casings? BS
6-8 years?! to pass laws that protect ppl? System is seriously broken.
Laws need revising. Reason being, more people coming in to the country and not being checked appropriately. I have been saying this to politicians in Canada, as our laws are not good and crime is on rise in Canada, as used to be one the safest place to live in the world.
On her 911 call, she sounds too robotic and when she says i want my family to find me, why would she go all the way down thru muddy path to the water. imo the parking lot would be easier to find her.
What I don't understand is how an sexstortion law passes within a year but, women die every few minutes from Domestic Violence and its still not a priority???? I truly believe not enough men have experienced or died from DV because if they did, it would already be passed.
It’s hard to fathom.
Facts
After hearing the 911 call now I am starting to believe foul play. She did not end her life.
She never ended her life. From day 1, she told family & friends that if I end up with bullets in my head, it was JP.
JP told people that Mica thought AI was going to get her. He can't seem to stop talking and I believe he told on himself and confirmed that AI was used for that call.
I felt like she was being told what to say
@@shellygoodenoughI believe it was Jp and she was already deceased
What this poor woman went through locked in a relationship with him. Also, he and other older men started grooming young girls in the church to be the women they wanted so he felt he could completely control her. Disgusting
Thank you Gavin for sharing, this interview sheds a lot of light on the case of mica francis' death.
Jp shouldve been locked up years ago
Ive followed hours upon hours of info since day one about Mica Francis. That is her maiden name. Anyone who has researched and heard ALL the evidence KNOWS Mica was in her right mind. She was abused on all levels and drugged. She was gas lighted and gang stalked. Not only has info come out about her, but all of J.P's friends, family, associates, plus all the records from places she was INVOLUNTARY committed. I heard once he hit her in throat area. She had no mental or intellectual deficits. Apparantly she was drugged consistently. There are multiple testimonies from previous church members, family, coworkers, who vouch for her. The police report, crime scene, and immediate cremation orchestrated by J.P. is a JOKE. RED FLAGS ALL OVER THIS CASE. The 7 years of horrific DV, on every conceivable level will blow your mind. She was the strongest person one could imagine which could have survived like she did for what she endured. The LIES which J.P. told are so numerous it defies your imagination. She told multiple people she feared for her life. Stated if I'm found dead and a bullitt in my brain J.P. staged it to make it look like a suicide. His ex wife has taken him to court to remove children. He stalked her too. You can listen while her affidavits read verbatim. Multiple sexual encounters of under age girls at the church. Some have now pressed charges. There are money problems brought out also in the church. Mica took journals, folders and alerted IRS and other authorities. Please don't insinuate she unalived herself. This case stinks to high heaven. Her death top of the iceberg. FBI still on this case. The more info which comes out that is collaborated the more you understand there are many players in this ongoing saga. She wasn't a religious fanatic either. She was worship leader, worked with youth, assisted with many other functions at church. People report her kind, caring, talented, genuine, and a committed Christian. She finally filed for divorce. She was dead 2 days after papers served to J.P. . Please take time to invest what several Podcaster have uncovered in this ongoing investigation. There are hours on end to hear. Mica needs JUSTICE. ALL the info I've stated came from those who have dug deep and wide in this case. It is beyond heartbreaking. The abuse staggering. RIP MICA.
The thing that baffles me is how she went into the shop and casually bought the gun that was used in her death ? How do we explain that part of her trip ?
Protection?@@valerieslater-t1v
Yep! Ive followed since day 1. JPs connections with local PD ran far & wide. They failed Mica. I believe its gonna come out that local PD is in someway involved. Micas case should be studied for years to come on DV, coercive control, narcissim, sociopath, & what law enforcement SHOULDN'T do.
@@valerieslater-t1vmaybe she bought it for self protection? I was taught to not carry a weapon because if an assailant got it away from me, he’d use it against me. Something to think about it, you gotta be ready to use it to defend yourself at all times.
Protection? There’s also a theory that she was forced to buy it (blackmailed, etc) and some speculation that 2 other men in the surveillance video in the pawn shop appear to just be in there subtly watching her make the purchase. They come in after her, stand around for a bit in her vicinity. The point is that the fact that she purchased the gun doesn’t mean she meant to use it to take her own life.
Gavin! I just wanted to tell how much I appreciate your support and education for all victims. Your integrity is palpable and your work with families and highly respectful coverage does not go unnoticed.
(Trigger warning ‼️) As an advocate and survivor who’s ex- spouse is currently imprisoned for repeated strangulation of 3 different women, I was impressed by the expert’s acknowledgment that anyone who utilizes this method has the mind of a killer. This abusive man had told me on more than one occasion about his belief that,” every man should be able to k*ll at least one woman in their lifetime “. Sociopathic abusers are fully aware of what the possible outcome could be, they simply do not care!
I hope you’re on a healing path ❤
Great show. Very informative and compassionate in its delivery. It's a shame the investigators in Mica's case were nowhere near as thorough as this wonderful guest!
This is a great education for me. Brian needs to train civilians not only law enforcement.
I feel even worse for sweet Mica after learning all this. She is never far from my mind. May she rest in peace.
I think of her often and wish so much that we could have saved her 🥺
I can't help but notice over and
over again, if the purposed law benefits/protects men, it passes quickly but if it does the same for women, it takes years to get anything passed. It's shameful.
Especially in SC. They are still protecting the Good Ole Boys. JP was one of them but, I think that he's no longer being protected by local law enforcement now that the FBI have stepped in. He had an honorary police badge given to him by Horry County PD. All he had to do when being pulled over or in trouble was flash his badge. Furthermore, when JP went to a resturant to start a fight with DJ, the last guy Mica kissed, he punched DJ, then fled. Horry County PD called JP to check on HIM to make sure he was okay. This is the level of protection he had. Mica didn't stand a chance getting help.
That state sounds dangerous to women.
And the woman who may or may not have committed suicide on that church property...why so many female suicides?
@@AndromedasLight17 When Gavin said he didn't see why the police would lie, this was my first thought. Good ol' boys protect each other above all else. It's also possible that the police weren't lying. They're just so prejudiced toward other men that they can't see what's right in front of their face. "The preacher wouldn't do THAT! We all know women are crazy."
More unbelievable than her body moving that far in stagnant water, how did she get UNDER the log???
That's what I've been saying all along about how far she was from the gun and bullets and the board on her
Upstream yeah that does happen
Caught most of the live and catching up now. Thank you both…never heard that 911 call before. Justice for Mica 💜
With all of the creators and investigators so far that have reported on the case, I’m shocked we are only now hearing this 911 recording
Me too!
I heard about the call many times on some guys channel, but the body effect not gone over. This is excellent.
The call was discussed on TikTok in August. That's where/when I heard it.
That 911 call has been on a few other creators content for a few months (True Sunlight Podcast, Robbie Harvey) I recommend those 2 for the most up to date info on the case. True Sunlight has filed dozens of FOIAs for this case.
@ Thanks for the heads up! I have a folder on YT just for sweet Mica videos.
The police did nothing to help Mica, they only covered up for JP.
These cops did nothing after several incidents jp never faced any charges they knew it was dangerous situation and did nothing to protect Micah.
Yep! Good Ole Boys protecting eachother. JP had an honorary Horry County PD badge they gave to him to flash if he was pulled over or ever got in trouble. They are corrupt and so are the PD in the county Mica was found. They failed her greatly & I do believe that it's going to come out that members of the PD are involved.
Terrible. Apparently some of the police force are congregants of Solid Rock. Not sure if that was part of why he was never held accountable.
I bet some are even friends with JP
I have left him divorced and have a great therapist now but thank you for this important show
GF … you are such a treasure. Your content and the way you present it is unmatched! Blessings to you and your precious family ❤️ Wishing you all a merry Christmas, and a new year full of love!!
I missed the live! Dang it! I’m so interested in hearing this Gavin
Replay crew!!!
If the police did what they were supposed to do, Mica Francis would still be ALIVE!
She also said if it looks like i shot myself, it wasn't me it was JP. come on!
Replay crew here! I wish all law enforcement agencies had the training this amazing guest has (I'm not sure who he is, but I'll be looking into it!!). DV is very misunderstood by many. I resonated with everything he said and he really is spot on. I have had hands wrapped around my neck on more than one occasion and it is extremely scary. I'm very thankful to be here today. I tend to remain calm and not freak out in situations similar to Mica. RIP Mica. Your loss is tragic. You will never be forgotten. I believe we will see changes for the positive. Sad it takes such terrible tragedies for those important things to actually happen 😢❤
Of course he had her done in. Open your eyes. Robbie Harvey showed us how AI works on a live show. It’s crazy. Absolutely crazy.
I hope this is reopened or something. We can’t trust that any autopsy wasn’t done by some crooked cop pal. Someone with heat and pressure on them by Robson county-a notoriously crooked police department with such a long history of being criminals. I’d like to see a real report.
I wonder if she was cremated or can be exhumed??
@@KatenJaceHe warped her family in not being able to see her at the morgue or hospital, like in order t see her; He said they had to agree to let him have her body cremated. And as Christian’s, you usually don’t get cremated. You get buried..😢So he had her cremated..😪 Being he knew it’d be investigated and he’d end up in trouble most likely.🙄🫨 He’s wayyy off his rocker. (Speaking on JP).
@@KatenJace
She was cremated. Her husband insisted against her family’s wish’s.
Thank you. Watching from Alaska. 🤔
Education is crucial to the clarity of forensic examination of these cases.
Most folks are at the elementary stages of ability to see clearly.
Thank you.
Excellent, really informative interview. Thank you.
Who in the world would sign a postnuptial agreement stating you will get nothing?
He must have really been confident about his power over her through intimidation. Such an arrogant dirtbag
Its a power play so JP didnt have to give her a dime & a smart move by Mica. If you are in a highly abusive relationship, objects mean nothing compared to freedom from the abuse. When I left my abuser, I left EVERYTHING because it was far more important to escape than it was to get my couch or bed. Those things can be replaced. Your life cannot.
Hi Gavin!👋😊
Looking forward to your great content here!
Merry Christmas 🎄
I don't believe for a second that Mica took her own life! And after all these things that keep coming up, I don't understand why JP is still roaming free.
This reminds me of how the police responded to Gabbi Petito and Brian Laundry when they were stopped by police...
Am I the only one who finds Gavin’s voice calming?!
Content is great too!
I still feel she didn't kill herself! He had someone do it and set it to look like a suicide. 🙏 Rest in Peace Beautiful Sweet Mica. 💓
I am sure she didn't.
same here! This guy being interviewed says the same thing! Also it's a homicide unless proven otherwise! And the Chief of the police there is a woman, who goes to jp's church....sus
She told her family that if she ends up with bullets in her head, JP did it. There's no question she didn't do this.
same
@sharinews 100% she as a Christian & would not do this. I've been through alot and still couldn't do it! Yes, no longer in pain or suffering his abuse, poor sweet girl. He needs to be in jail
TY Gavin. Very informative show!! 💜🪽💜🪽💜🪽💜🪽💜🪽💜
It wasn’t until I went through training as an advocate that I found out a survivor should be observed for 24-72 hours afterwards as it can cause injury to the neck and brain and the symptoms may be delayed.
Very educational, interesting, & insightful- thought provoking for sure. THANKS SO MUCH! Important info/convo!
A very interesting conversation. Great gestern! Greetings from Germany
AI could have been used to make the call prior to her death. There was a witness who stated he heard a woman’s scream prior to the death. Hard to know. Her husband certainly could be the one that drove her to take her own life if that is what happened.
She is free from his torment now! ❤🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Did not make it to the live 😔
But I'm invested in the channel and these cases.
Ehhh..😀 I think I remember Brian!!
Wasn't he on here with us before?
Thanks for giving us some more of your time,Brian..I learned so much last time. 👍
There is no wayy..mica did that to herself...she had plans for her future ..she had...after she would be divorced from that monster..
She was happy..she even told her loved ones if this happens ....he did it!!!
Eric's wife: Why hasn't anyone gotten that footage as proof from disneyland? That has to damn JP. Hard evidence like that.
FYI If you EVER call police and you have ANY sort of mental ANYTHING ever written in your records, they put a CODE on your call history and history. This leads to bias and anyone talking to you to not take you seriously, they might not even write down why you are calling.
G.F. wasn't she found under a log or wood debris?? The first person 'boat' didn't see her... but the second kayaker did. Didn't one call the other by name? This is a Hinkey, HINKEY situation.
stinky? what?
Thanks for keeping on it Gavin. Most disturbing xo ❤
Awesome guest!
Did they ever say what they found during the FBI raid recently?
The FBI is not through with the investigation yet.. Robbie Harvey is telling that story about what they already found but they are still digging into the case
He kept going to the morgue to look at the body for physical evidence. He wasn't trying to bring her back to life.
I Am absolutely loving your content!!! new subscriber here
Poor Micah.
❤ watching your channel x
Someone should have told the officers in Ellen’s case!
Throat punch? OMG ! I have never heard that term before... I can easily figure out what it is... It is TERRIBLE !
I had it happen. Aimed for face. I flew backwards, upside down, lost my breath...thought I was dead. It affects your windpipe.
It wasn't Mica making that phone call!
😮 oh my goodness.
Unfortunately as a now retired nurse i have seen to many deceased people. They do tend to release urine and bowel after death. Even in my personal life i was with my mother and grandmother when they passed away but nursing staff took care of them after they died so of course they ask us to leave the room.
Too bad this gentleman wasn't on the scene of your friend's daughter's death scene. I'm sorry her name escapes me but I believe someone was named Goldstein. Perhaps that was the fiancee name. Pennsylvania needs all new cops, DA and medical examiner. Was that Pittsburgh or Philadelphia. I sure hope that sweet couple get answers about their daughters death while they are alive. Such a travesty of the justice system.
But explain, why wouldn't she know where she's at? There are signs out there. She should have easy said the name of the park. The dispatcher told her, where she was at, and she agreed after the fact. Something was very off the day she made the call for her family to find her. We just have to do a better job, when people call and say a family member can harm themself, and others. They failed her so miserly! I had to deal with that kind of the thing, I threatened to call the news everybody, and I did call everybody, and they came to help me with the person. I threaten to call the news on the hospital, and they started gathering stuff to get this person help then. If people would have thought to do things like that, maybe the sweet Mica would still be here. We can 't give up, call from the top of your lungs to everybody. Let's do better. If people cont, in these churches sitting back and allowing the pople to harm people , what is you point in going to church. She was begging for help. They failed her, so sad!
This case seems so open and shut, given the historical context.
Will be watching this carefully.
Looking forward to seeing a probable cause affidavit.
I dont know any victim of domestic violence who was strangled and many are, who had any desire to unalive themselves after such trauma. It is actually quite the opposite, there is a conscious effort to survive.
I needed to hear this info for myself. The most dangerous time is once you’ve left. And I am IN IT y’all. I hate this so much.
Any level of aggression and abuse increases incrementally the risk of repetition and intensity.
If one lives in the real world, adheres to reality, understands physics, knows the basics about the human body, and subscribes to facts, there's no way that Mica Miller willingly took her own life as the investigation concluded. No way!
💜💜💜Mica💜💜💜
If MB Police Dept done their job Mica would still be here. So many time she reported him and they done nothing. Most of them goes to his church.
JusticeForMica 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜
Umm, GF in no way do any law enforcement need to be lying in order for JP to have taken Mica’s life.
I'm a little scared to hear the truth in this one.... so i had to be replay crew.... and i had my air ways obstructed more times than i can count. Its been a couple years but it's almost like the trauma really just started rearing its ugly head, because ive been so scared of him popping up and i stayed in full adrenaline mode the first couple years. Now I'm scared bc i feel like he wanted me dead and can they ever really let that idea go? I'm a bit scared to listen but i know knowledge is power.
So I train Jiu Jitsu and I get caught in choke holds often. I tap quickly and so do the people who I catch in Choke holds. Now, I'm curious if brain cell death is happening to me and my training partners.
It's the defense wounds for me .why would 💀victim have defense wounds?Also mica had a clear loud slightly gravelly voice.the mica impersonator has a thick southern drawl and says uhhhhhhhhh ummmmm alot.
This episode was very interesting and informative. Learned so much from Brian! Pet Peeve: All males are called Mr…… All women are addressed by their first name. I would love to know the reason why.
@GF. I have a history of minor strangulation by a partner. I immediately left but he ended up shooting hi s new wife years later. Crazy how your show opened my eyes.
I would say the son! Makes sense now! Jp had to perfect of an alibi and the neighbor said with out a doubt jp son who looks like dadio almost hit the neighbor driving like a bat outta hell! I say look into that son of his!
And his so hated her. She turned him down when he flirted with her and no one turns Miller men down without getting injured.
Wait. What does strangulation have to do with her death? Please tell!
You can actually get someone to pass out, do things before they wake up. They will not remember. Also strangulation is illegal. It is physical harm. This is why JP cannot get hired anywhere. It is domestic violence.
Gavin r harvey did a video titled a fistful of bullets and he says their was a sitn that mica was in concerning being given a gun and some bullets by her husband I just thought id let you know
speaking about forensic things for the terrain the location time of day evening
Gavin, Gavin , GAvin, you are showing your lack of knowledge and empathy again ! A person does NOT have to lose their temper to strangle... Some People are just EVIL ! They DON"T need to Lose their TEMPER!!!!!! oh, dear!
I had an acquaintance in a parking lot get really close to me and acted like he was going to kiss me but put his hands around my throat while smiling then said he was just joking. I never let him get near me again. And he was laughing. So they pretend to hold your head to kiss you, then move their hands down , so yep, no anger in him.
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As well as fibers from whatever was used that would also be on the fingers
GAvin, I am TIRED of hearing your "insights" as to what happened... you don't have a CLUE what you are talking about and in actuality, I REALLY am concerned that you have a deep-seeded attitude AGAINST the credibility of women.... Based on LOTS of shows I have watched/ listened to. I REALLY feel your wife, your Older daughter and your younger daughter(s?).
Gavin. Mica killed herself. She chose to do this. You know this. A clear timeline of her actions leading up to her death proves this. She called 911 to let them know where to find her. Mica had mental health issues. Let her RIP. Sick of TH-camrs looking into something that isn’t there. I thought you were better than that. Don’t grift off this poor woman’s death.
Looks like she was some kind of religious fanatic.
She was the victim of a religious fanatic and his fake church.
She was a Christian, hardly a fanatic.
And what if she was!!!!!!
Looks like everyone is not intelligent enough to understand the difference between religious fanatic and highly spiritual...🤔