I love the cleaning background music. Reminds me of Oceans 11 and Vegas. Back in my youth I was stationed at Nellis AFB in Vegas. Good times! Thanks for the awesome videos Ronnie.
What a fitting game to be Roy’s last artwork. I’ve read that Roy never played a pinball, and in fact never even looked at his art on the machines. He just did the drawings, handed them in, and that was that. I do remember playing this game, but then I played all of them in the 60s. …It was a time.
I played a Gottlieb Mayfair on the boardwalk in Seaside Hts, New Jersey in the late 1969’s at the Casino Arcade. It’s such a cool Gottlieb multiplayer game and is loads of fun to play.
Ronnie, I think you are right on. If you work to hard to clean up these master pieces, not only do you erase history but you also start to change the original game play that was meant to be. Good stuff.
I refer to this as a "rust-o-ration"... I did the same to my 1961 Jukebox. It got cleaned, and all functions restored... and then I stopped there... it still shows its history.
I think amongst car enthuaists it would be creating a rat rod. Not restored but runs very well when it runs, but always back on the road, if as a weekend driver.
This kind of reminds me of a 1967 Williams pinball "Magic City" I played in my youth at the bowling alley. Me and my friend Peter used to share-play it, I was the left flipper and he played the right. Twice the pinball for the same coin ;) Did anyone else used to play at the same time with a friend? P.s. It had the 2" flippers :)
Presently "restoring" a Magic City that was pretty much a barn find. Believe me, it's rough. Bottom playfield art has mostly eroded away leaving me to improvise. I have no artistic skills so I'm not sure what to do. Plays good tho
Nice to these old classic pins been really worked on made like new . I clean and polish the field it's good to look after it also it's plays fast to and I always check the ball as it's changed regular I'm lucky my machine was left in a damp bace ment legs was so rusty but the main game was bought back to life It's brilliant to see you make the jobs look so easy but very rewarding Brilliant job well done 👍
Ron: We'll play the heck out of it before the customer picks it up. Off camera, Ron calls the customer to say would you mind if you come in a little later. Thanks.
I agree. Gotlieb was definitely the king of EM pinball machines up until they switched to Solid State. The bumpers on this one are very powerful for a 1966.
@@LyonsArcade maybe you should have played wearing roller skates? Nope, I love these EMs and your fixing of them - the history of backglass story with pearly kings and London based references are hardly going to be a strongpoint (I live only an hour or so from Mayfair and it's not one of mine either) I commented on the flipper side post too soon - I noted that you replaced it (I pondered removing one from top of pf to disguise odd one!), Commented, then watched you describe doing so. *Doh*. Fabulous to seeing ones own sensibilities reflected. Enthusiastic preservation. Playable patina - I love your practical, ethical attitude to problem solving and explaining for us all. I think there was one point that you could have commented 'It's broke' which you missed (!), but other than that... Bravo!
Where I once worked, they bought a big group of 80s-90s pinball games repatriated from Europe. I guess they couldn't get parts there. A broken rubber ring? Block the lane out with a 3" wood screw! The guy rebuilding them had a five gallon bucket with all the burned out light bulbs. Hundreds. Some smelled like they were in men's rooms at bus or train stations.
That's a cool little game, and came out great. It would probably play a lot different with the gottlieb stubby flippers. I really appreciate you taking the time to video all of these. I can tell I'm old because I catch myself jamming to your background music when you shop-out a game!
Yes somebody put the wrong ones on there. You know bigger is always better, right????? Hell they ought to put 5" flippers on there, that will realllllly make it fun!
Thanks for show us the play action on this game. It is really looks fun. The carry over play throws me for a loop however when the ball goes down the drain and no bonus count up. I think I have seen (may be played) one of these somewhere in the 70s or 80s.
@@LyonsArcade I agree 👍. There's got to be a dice or card game that one can join with a growing jack pot that the carryover feature would work well with. A lottery or craps themed pinball table could use this feature well.
Bet that plastic target will cost more than a quarter. 🤔 Was working on a truck with my uncle. He was an old school machinest. He needed a couple of washers under a bolt. They cost a nickel each. Got pissed an started going off on the poor guy behind the counter, that he could drill a hole in that nickel an it would make a better washer than the one he just bought. Just thought of that when I saw the quarter. 😂😂😂
Hey Ron, how does a pinball hold up in a garage? Basically not temp regulated. Will heat warp the plastics, affect paint? I worked with a lot of the same mechanical components in my job, but it’s the playfield items I’m worried about. Thanks!!!
I'm still confused on how those SNAP Targets work in theory of operations. Can you please explain how those SNAP targets because there are two different sides that do some type of logic. You mention about certain switches and stepper motors will have "Carry Over" signals and numbers, but how can you tell when looking at the EM schematics that certain switches and stepper motors will have "Carry Over" signals and numbers?
You mean how the bonus doesn't reset between games? That's actually the natural behavior of game items. The ones that reset hook into the end of ball / game over / reset circuits.
@@eDoc2020 Some games Stepper motors, bonus units, Score Reels will have a "carry over" so when the ball#1 goes in the out hole and ball#2 is selected the score reels, stepper motors, bonus units use a "carry over" which the carry over stores the numbers and stores the bonus unit and other stepper unit positions and don't reset between balls or between games. I'm not sure when looking at EM schematics how you can tell if there are "Carry Overs" or not, any tips?
@@eDoc2020 The Values don't reset that its why its called a Carry Over. Joe is mentioning Carry Overs in the last few videos about how this EM games has Carry Overs which seems that the Values are STORED and carried over to the next Ball or next game.
@@waynegram8907 The values are stored by the mechanical state. No power is needed to keep the state but power is always needed to change or reset state. If the unit resets when you start a new game then then its reset coil _must_ be hooked into the reset circuitry of the game.
Sure, you had to remind me I’m a senior citizen. Like I don’t already know. I like solid state machines, I own a Williams Gorgar (my only machine) when it’s sorted out even though it’s 40 years old it’s reliable. I was thinking the EMs are like steam locomotives. They’re living breathing entities that employed a bunch of people to keep them running. A diesel electric does the same job in a soulless and robotic way. I’ve learned from watching you, I think I might have a rudimentary understanding of schematics from watching you.
@@LyonsArcade Sorry, it was just a simple question/observation. No need to get offended. Seems to me that it would kill the gameplay getting stuck there all the time and the customer would have wanted it fixed.
I'm catching up on your videos now, after a short break for other pursuits. I know when you post your video the machine has already left the shop, but if this was my pinball machine I'd put the two white posts further back in the same group. You can see the two barely noticeable in a close-up at 24:10 Also I would reproduce the missing ball guide on the right where the ball gets stuck on the previous video th-cam.com/video/YlU6Ow0cxXk/w-d-xo.html Since I'm a sheet metal worker at my day job, making this will only take a few minutes.
I love the cleaning background music. Reminds me of Oceans 11 and Vegas. Back in my youth I was stationed at Nellis AFB in Vegas. Good times! Thanks for the awesome videos Ronnie.
What a fitting game to be Roy’s last artwork. I’ve read that Roy never played a pinball, and in fact never even looked at his art on the machines. He just did the drawings, handed them in, and that was that.
I do remember playing this game, but then I played all of them in the 60s. …It was a time.
It's always amazing how much of a diference cleaning the playfield makes.
I played a Gottlieb Mayfair on the boardwalk in Seaside Hts, New Jersey in the late 1969’s at the Casino Arcade. It’s such a cool Gottlieb multiplayer game and is loads of fun to play.
Ronnie, I think you are right on. If you work to hard to clean up these master pieces, not only do you erase history but you also start to change the original game play that was meant to be. Good stuff.
I refer to this as a "rust-o-ration"... I did the same to my 1961 Jukebox. It got cleaned, and all functions restored... and then I stopped there... it still shows its history.
I don't really have the ability to take it any farther than that, it gets very time consuming and expensive with very little in return
@@LyonsArcade plus you need to work within the customer's wishes.
I think amongst car enthuaists it would be creating a rat rod. Not restored but runs very well when it runs, but always back on the road, if as a weekend driver.
Great!
This kind of reminds me of a 1967 Williams pinball "Magic City" I played in my youth at the bowling alley.
Me and my friend Peter used to share-play it, I was the left flipper and he played the right. Twice the pinball for the same coin ;)
Did anyone else used to play at the same time with a friend?
P.s. It had the 2" flippers :)
Presently "restoring" a Magic City that was pretty much a barn find. Believe me, it's rough. Bottom playfield art has mostly eroded away leaving me to improvise. I have no artistic skills so I'm not sure what to do. Plays good tho
Nice to these old classic pins been really worked on made like new .
I clean and polish the field it's good to look after it also it's plays fast to and I always check the ball as it's changed regular I'm lucky my machine was left in a damp bace ment legs was so rusty but the main game was bought back to life
It's brilliant to see you make the jobs look so easy but very rewarding
Brilliant job well done 👍
Thanks for watching, We have a Medusa Video series we got from a damp crawlspace it cleaned up pretty well
She`s alive..................ALIVE ! Thank you guys,awesome job on this machine x
Ron: We'll play the heck out of it before the customer picks it up.
Off camera, Ron calls the customer to say would you mind if you come in a little later. Thanks.
My wife was stuck in traffic and I herd her say “Come on people!” She’s overheard so many videos.
Come on now people you're not supposed to do th.... get out of the w.... people, you can't drive like that come on now
Good game, nice work, great set of videos for this Mayfair!
Thanks for doing these videos Joe. I especially appreciate the "how to fix" episodes. Keep up the good work!
I agree. Gotlieb was definitely the king of EM pinball machines up until they switched to Solid State. The bumpers on this one are very powerful for a 1966.
Nice you found a post..
Sorry, commented without seeing new posts in. Nice. But yeah, better with original flippers for sure.
Did you notice anything else we did wrong?
@@LyonsArcade maybe you should have played wearing roller skates?
Nope, I love these EMs and your fixing of them - the history of backglass story with pearly kings and London based references are hardly going to be a strongpoint (I live only an hour or so from Mayfair and it's not one of mine either)
I commented on the flipper side post too soon - I noted that you replaced it (I pondered removing one from top of pf to disguise odd one!), Commented, then watched you describe doing so. *Doh*.
Fabulous to seeing ones own sensibilities reflected. Enthusiastic preservation. Playable patina - I love your practical, ethical attitude to problem solving and explaining for us all.
I think there was one point that you could have commented 'It's broke' which you missed (!), but other than that... Bravo!
Where I once worked, they bought a big group of 80s-90s pinball games repatriated from Europe. I guess they couldn't get parts there. A broken rubber ring? Block the lane out with a 3" wood screw! The guy rebuilding them had a five gallon bucket with all the burned out light bulbs. Hundreds. Some smelled like they were in men's rooms at bus or train stations.
Frankly I’d take the wheels off and keep the big flippers but probably put it on 3 ball. A beautiful game and the customer is very lucky to have it.
I'd love to be in a playfield cleaning business
Laying up in bed with Covid 19...just gone 340 Saturday afternoon and just awoke..great video
Hope you get well soon
@@Its-Broke Yeah thanks.. getting there
That's a cool little game, and came out great. It would probably play a lot different with the gottlieb stubby flippers. I really appreciate you taking the time to video all of these. I can tell I'm old because I catch myself jamming to your background music when you shop-out a game!
Hi Ron. Nice to see you. Or not see you. Nice to be here. Wait, I'm always here. Ferrari
C'mon people!
@@OhRonaldo It's Broke! - Joe
You may have fixed this later in the video, but wouldn’t a machine of this era have the 2” flipper bats?
Yes somebody put the wrong ones on there. You know bigger is always better, right????? Hell they ought to put 5" flippers on there, that will realllllly make it fun!
Thanks for show us the play action on this game. It is really looks fun. The carry over play throws me for a loop however when the ball goes down the drain and no bonus count up. I think I have seen (may be played) one of these somewhere in the 70s or 80s.
They definitely shouldn't have made that different, people notice when things are different
@@LyonsArcade I agree 👍. There's got to be a dice or card game that one can join with a growing jack pot that the carryover feature would work well with. A lottery or craps themed pinball table could use this feature well.
I try to watch but Joey always puts me to sleep. lol
Hey Ron!! A '64 or earlier quarter would be mostly silver and "awesomer!" Don't get electrokilled.
Mayfair, June 1966. Production 2,120
Bet that plastic target will cost more than a quarter. 🤔 Was working on a truck with my uncle. He was an old school machinest. He needed a couple of washers under a bolt. They cost a nickel each. Got pissed an started going off on the poor guy behind the counter, that he could drill a hole in that nickel an it would make a better washer than the one he just bought. Just thought of that when I saw the quarter. 😂😂😂
On the upper right lane there is a metal diverter missing. Otherwise nice troubleshooting. 👌
Thank you Pankaj, did you notice anyting else we did wrong?
@@LyonsArcade Wehhhlll one of the 💡 wasn't bulbing enough
Didn't change the pinballs to new?
@@pankajshah670 🤣🤣❤️🤣🤣
@@LyonsArcade Come on people !
Senior citizen... Man! That hurts.
What products did you use in this video? Great video!
Yodelayheehoo
Hey ... Nope I won't say it.
Take care.
Fifteen or Sixteen colors in the backglass, pretty impressive. I'd call it pretty pricey process to produce those.
Hey Ron, how does a pinball hold up in a garage? Basically not temp regulated. Will heat warp the plastics, affect paint? I worked with a lot of the same mechanical components in my job, but it’s the playfield items I’m worried about. Thanks!!!
I'd only worry about the back glass, getting hot and cold makes it flake the art sometimes
@@LyonsArcade good enough not to do it. Thank you!!
I'm still confused on how those SNAP Targets work in theory of operations. Can you please explain how those SNAP targets because there are two different sides that do some type of logic. You mention about certain switches and stepper motors will have "Carry Over" signals and numbers, but how can you tell when looking at the EM schematics that certain switches and stepper motors will have "Carry Over" signals and numbers?
You mean how the bonus doesn't reset between games? That's actually the natural behavior of game items. The ones that reset hook into the end of ball / game over / reset circuits.
@@eDoc2020 Some games Stepper motors, bonus units, Score Reels will have a "carry over" so when the ball#1 goes in the out hole and ball#2 is selected the score reels, stepper motors, bonus units use a "carry over" which the carry over stores the numbers and stores the bonus unit and other stepper unit positions and don't reset between balls or between games. I'm not sure when looking at EM schematics how you can tell if there are "Carry Overs" or not, any tips?
@@waynegram8907 I don't really understand. Do you mean something where the value is reset and then restored later? That's not common in EM machines.
@@eDoc2020 The Values don't reset that its why its called a Carry Over. Joe is mentioning Carry Overs in the last few videos about how this EM games has Carry Overs which seems that the Values are STORED and carried over to the next Ball or next game.
@@waynegram8907 The values are stored by the mechanical state. No power is needed to keep the state but power is always needed to change or reset state. If the unit resets when you start a new game then then its reset coil _must_ be hooked into the reset circuitry of the game.
Sure, you had to remind me I’m a senior citizen. Like I don’t already know. I like solid state machines, I own a Williams Gorgar (my only machine) when it’s sorted out even though it’s 40 years old it’s reliable.
I was thinking the EMs are like steam locomotives. They’re living breathing entities that employed a bunch of people to keep them running. A diesel electric does the same job in a soulless and robotic way.
I’ve learned from watching you, I think I might have a rudimentary understanding of schematics from watching you.
cool music at 5 minutes in
Surprised you didn't fix the ball getting stuck on top of the right kicker peg by putting a metal piece like the left kicker?
Did you notice anything else you would be better at than me?
@@LyonsArcade Sorry, it was just a simple question/observation. No need to get offended. Seems to me that it would kill the gameplay getting stuck there all the time and the customer would have wanted it fixed.
I'm catching up on your videos now, after a short break for other pursuits. I know when you post your video the machine has already left the shop, but if this was my pinball machine I'd put the two white posts further back in the same group. You can see the two barely noticeable in a close-up at 24:10
Also I would reproduce the missing ball guide on the right where the ball gets stuck on the previous video th-cam.com/video/YlU6Ow0cxXk/w-d-xo.html Since I'm a sheet metal worker at my day job, making this will only take a few minutes.
This game definitely needs 2" flippers. I would call the customer to confirm they want to keep the 3" flippers
I'm not in the habit of arguing with customers
@@LyonsArcade It's a classic example of "The customer is always right" especially when they are wrong ;)
@@LyonsArcade You save that for your viewers 🤣
/Running for my life