Abus Granit 8077 alarm disc lock literally falls apart after moderate use

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
  • A review of the security failings of the Abus Granit Detecto 8077. Two years and 5 months old, showing design failure which leads to the appearance of it being locked when it can be simply lifted off your bike!

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  • @touringtim7313
    @touringtim7313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've had this lock for 4 years and it's still good. The only thing I would say is that you should never be hanging the way suggested in the video. So at least if you do have a problem then you know before walking away

  • @mookyzook
    @mookyzook 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Had mine for about three years still works like new. Do spray it occasionally to keep it lubricated, maybe if it dries out it wears.

  • @YaboyCurtis_
    @YaboyCurtis_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This happened to the lock picking lawyers 8077 aswell, he was missing the ball part.

  • @Krestestovnikoff
    @Krestestovnikoff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have the same lock and it has a spring in the back, so if it doesn't lock properly you'll immediately know because it just won't stay closed. Maybe they added that spring to prevent exactly what you described. The failure can still occur but at least won't go unnoticed

  • @aonurozcan
    @aonurozcan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That's absolutely true. I've bought two of them. One of them is broken and the other one is about to be broken. The product was great at first but I don't recommend for long term usage.

    • @handeozcan9051
      @handeozcan9051 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bu dedikleriniz ne kadar bir sürede oldu Onur Bey?

    • @aonurozcan
      @aonurozcan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@handeozcan9051 1 yıl gibi bir sürede oldu.

    • @adamputu5448
      @adamputu5448 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whaatt? Dude😤😤😤😠😠😠😡😡 I Want Buying This And Using For Long Long Time For My Scooter Bike. In My Currency IDR This Key Lock Is Rp 2.230.000, I Want Buying This On Singapore, On SGD $227. That's A Lot Of Money For Key Lock 2.2 Million Rupiah I Must Be Paying And I See Your Comment I Confuse Buy Or Not

  • @bik3-spurt776
    @bik3-spurt776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the review Barry, was fgoing to get one based on review but not going to now. Highly doubt they are rectified this problem!!!

  • @chazhector274
    @chazhector274 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Balls fell out of mine yesterday. This is the most expensive lock Abus produce. I am disgusted as Abus rate this as an amazing lock. I would expect significantly better quality from a German company. Absolutely terrible and an absolute rip off. Stay away from this lock and since this lock is Abus' flagship motorbike lock, stay away from this manufacturer.

  • @Clove_Parma
    @Clove_Parma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for posting! I was thinking of getting this till seeing this and LPL. Poor design it seems

  • @tannipongo
    @tannipongo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bought this lock under a year ago in 2020. Used it sparingly on a classic bike always kept in temp controlled covered storage that has done about 1000 miles in the last year, went to put the the lock back yesterday evening after a ride and it fell apart. Still Looks brand new but wont lock. I can see the keyway has moved. Seems others have this issue. I cant imagine it being used more lightly than i have. Not fit for purpose at all.

  • @nickbrown3981
    @nickbrown3981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ABUS is the gold standard in motorcycle alarms and the #1 in Europe in terms of market share. I understand everyone has a different opinion on what it means for something to be durable, long lasting, etc... But I would say for a lock that retails ~200 USD if it lasts 2 years that works out to $0.27 per day to secure your bike with the best lock possible! (In terms of technology/materials/metals used) With any lock you should be inspecting it occasionally and replacing when necessary :)

    • @BarryMolloy
      @BarryMolloy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everyone's entitled to an opinion. Worst lock I've had in 25 years of biking, I have two other Abus (chain) locks, all fine. For the gold standard gang, this one's a lemon.

    • @kaptein1247
      @kaptein1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ive had my current brandless disc lock (so euros) for about a year. Still like brand new accept for the batteries running out of power. I got it from my granddad who bought it a decade or so ago on vacation because he lost his lock.

    • @agvs
      @agvs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most stupid and simp comment I’ve ever read. They are not the “Gold” standard, they make some good locks and some are crap. Seems like this guy works for Abus and just posted this comment. Accept criticism and Abus should improve & test their product.

  • @SW-ok8qr
    @SW-ok8qr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally, i know realise why my 8077 abus disc lock is not locking. This is so annoying and such a bad design 🤬🤬

  • @luc1ferblack
    @luc1ferblack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe the balls are 8mm and cheap to replace. you insert them when the tray is half out then tap the pin at the front back in and maybe glue them in place. Its a good lock but it sucks that the pins can move over time allowing the balls to fall out. maybe abus updated the front pins. Its pretty expensive for this to happen. maybe the tray causes this with side to side movement forcing the pins outwards

  • @anotherhonda9402
    @anotherhonda9402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You seem to have the spring missing that holds the balls in place.
    Even though mine has the spring I have lost the locking balls on a few occasions.
    I keep spares now so I can replace them.
    I bought a bag of 100 8.5mm ball bearings from Amazon these fit and work perfectly.
    I did contact ABUS but they said it was a defect they know about and to return the lock to the place I bought it and they would send it to ABUS UK who would send it to ABUS DE to modify it so they won't fall out anymore. But said it would take a couple of weeks per lock. I have three of them and don't want to be without one for any length of time.

  • @etr1us
    @etr1us 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only problem is the spring that holds bearings in place. Thats all. That particular part needs just some extra love and the lock will be perfectly fine. And dont forget to lubricate the lock itself. Had this lock for 3+ years. Cheers

  • @MrTomasjis
    @MrTomasjis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My one completely fell apart. Black part separated from body

    • @Near2Future
      @Near2Future 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you replace the broken parts? Or maybe contact Abus for a replacement.

  • @torquebiker9959
    @torquebiker9959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Actually its a feature, in case you lose the key. ;)

    • @BarryMolloy
      @BarryMolloy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Speed release feature :)

    • @RealWalterSobcheck
      @RealWalterSobcheck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep! Abus locks are all constructed such that the lock must be in an unlocked position to receive the bolt and then you can lock it. It's not like a masterlock where you can just close it with no key. This video shows it working as intended :)

  • @TheRemyleon
    @TheRemyleon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was changing the batteries and one of the ballbearings fell out,placed it back and lock would shut anymore,opened the lock again and the complete lockingmechanism came loose and dropped into 5 pieces...this was after one year of use,very dissapointed.

  • @columbanahan7934
    @columbanahan7934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Same here mine broke after about 2 years

  • @darkknight17
    @darkknight17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had mine 3 years. When I changed the battery, the ball bearings fell out of the locking shackle. I managed to fit them back in and the disc lock worked fine. Last weak I was undoing the lock and the ball bearings came flying out and I've got no idea how to fit them back in.
    How are you getting on with the Xena Disc Lock alarm?

    • @BarryMolloy
      @BarryMolloy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All good so far, still on original battery and does what it says on the tin overall. Still amazed on hearing your experience also how bats##t crazy the Abus design is with those tiny exposed components facing such ware and tear.

    • @nobodyshero
      @nobodyshero 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BarryMolloy had an attempt of my bike being nicked last week dublin 12, what alarm disc lock should I invest in..tnx

  • @padraicdempsey268
    @padraicdempsey268 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks heaps for posting that review Barry. I had actually just filled in a purchase form and was on the point of taking my credit card out of my wallet to complete the order when I saw your review…..owe you a pint !
    I then did a bit of research on the Xena alarmed brake discs to find that plenty of people suffer false alarms, so am having a rethink. I have a good non-alarmed disc lock but rather like the idea of an alarmed one.
    Taking my brand new CB500 X on the Rosslare Bilbao ferry and the Pyrennes next month and was looking at security. Any other ideas on alarmed disc locks.
    Thanks again for posting….so much for German engineering prowess !

  • @jocke1972
    @jocke1972 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also, the plastic pegs that holds the battery compartment will fall off very easily, and mine just lasted for 2 battery changes.

  • @bessie2275
    @bessie2275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought one for a new bike and it broke after 4000 miles of light non winter use

  • @misanoracing8637
    @misanoracing8637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have this lock - and it has the same problem now... :(

  • @bryanshawcpasc
    @bryanshawcpasc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I experienced exactly the same thing. Lock is 2 years old next month. Waste of money

  • @Mel-eg8vw
    @Mel-eg8vw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got one but I don't put it the way you do on the disc. I actually put it upside down (so opposite way as yours) and I would basically notice if it would open because it would fall.
    I have to say after a month or two now the thing is stiff and wouldn't open, so it doesn't seem as great.
    I'm not an expert in disc locks but don't know what else I'd get.

  • @janvogt7037
    @janvogt7037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had the same issue. bought bearing balls of 8,5mm 0,333"for Replacement. Have always a critical view to that

  • @bessie2275
    @bessie2275 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done, I paid £130 for one that lasted 4000 miles

  • @justinkase1360
    @justinkase1360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for saving me some money! What have you moved on to?

    • @BarryMolloy
      @BarryMolloy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got a Xena after this, all grand so far.

    • @grapewater123
      @grapewater123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BarryMolloy can't they be wedged open though?

    • @BarryMolloy
      @BarryMolloy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @grapewater123 I imagine so! A disc lock is only ever going to slow some f****r down, not stop them. Of course if it is an Abus and falls off when they touch it... maybe less so.

    • @grapewater123
      @grapewater123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BarryMolloy Makes sense, guess I'll just use two different types one for the front brake disc and another mini u lock type that goes through the rear chain sprocket, both seen decent, are cheaper than the ABUS in total and am sure combined will have a longer attack time.
      Thanks again

  • @Near2Future
    @Near2Future 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2 years is still pretty good for a lock tbh. I'd rather buy another lock every 2 years then a new bike.

    • @BarryMolloy
      @BarryMolloy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      First time a lock failed on me in 20 odd years. Must be lucky :)

  • @Azizdir
    @Azizdir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve had my one for over 3 years and it still works perfectly fine and hasn’t fallen apart. So I don’t know what you’ve been doing with your lock.

    • @BarryMolloy
      @BarryMolloy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Locking it.... 😂😂😂

    • @Azizdir
      @Azizdir 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BarryMolloy 🤣😂🤣

    • @kaptein1247
      @kaptein1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BarryMolloy how dare you

  • @shmod97
    @shmod97 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mine just broke in the same way

  • @danielf7473
    @danielf7473 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the ABUS granit xplus 8008 better than 8077?

  • @c.g.c2067
    @c.g.c2067 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, good to know

  • @rtpwyk
    @rtpwyk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mine did the same. Junk.

  • @MassPsychology
    @MassPsychology 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What the fuck i just spent 300 bucks on this and a noose