BattleTech Clan Support Star Review! | Wave 2 Kickstarter Deep Dive Series | Clan Invasion

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  • No words can adequately describe this review... Night Gyr, Arctic Cheetah, Linebacker, Black Lanner and the infamous Battle Cobra. Definitely an eclectic bunch of omnimechs, but some really great designs that you'll want to get your hands on sooner rather than later!
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  • @CaptainVandus
    @CaptainVandus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am going to be devastated when you run out of packs to open together. Honestly these videos are so enjoyable, you guys just have great chemistry and are quite humorous. Keep up the great work

    • @DeathfromAboveWargaming
      @DeathfromAboveWargaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha thank you! We have some more in the hopper but are close to the end of wave 2! The good news is there is always new stuff to open. The Wolf’s Dragoons lance pack is coming out in Dec I think!

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you hear that Catalyst??? Make more stuff asap!
      (Appreciate the kind words and glad you enjoy the banter)

  • @ghostx697
    @ghostx697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    “Why is this mech named the linebacker?”
    Clan Ghost Bear: “what about it?”

  • @jakubfabisiak9810
    @jakubfabisiak9810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Night Gyr is a summoner on steroids. Slower, but damn it is scary.
    And the Battle Cobra is probably my favourite clan omnimech. It's a very unique-looking mech. And while it had to live in the shadow of the Stormcrow, prime, and A configs are great, and great bv-wise too.

  • @faithmcclosky4528
    @faithmcclosky4528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Night Gyr will now forever be relegated to the ranks of cattle. Great unboxing!

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “The echoes of mechanical moos in the night still haunt my dreams”

  • @androssthered1157
    @androssthered1157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Should do some Battlytics on 1v1s for different chassis. Timber Wolf Prime versus Linebacker Prime, Shadow Cat vs Ice Ferret, etc. See if these "replacement mechs" actually do their job.

  • @subtlewhatssubtle
    @subtlewhatssubtle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This Black Lanner looks much nicer than my old Ral Partha version. Even unpainted, it's lean and elegant, and it evokes the bird of prey aesthetic much better than the classic Black Lanner which... I'm gonna say it, is a little stubby. The old Black Lanner looks almost adorable, which is not a word you usually associate with Clan Omnis.

    • @Macrochenia
      @Macrochenia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, the original Black Lanner looked almost like some sort of chibified Stalker.

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “They used to call me coke can”

  • @LeeGutsy
    @LeeGutsy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best Battletech channel on the tube, hands down

  • @davetalley
    @davetalley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Remember this is sometimes a second line star, so TAG is used on occasion, especially if the have the guided LRMs, and they no longer give a shit about dueling for most IS force so article is a possibility

  • @acetraker1988
    @acetraker1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Night Gyr - D = I was blown away when I noticed this mech in the opfor in BT BEX....
    LRM-80 Artemis IV = Cause reasons.
    LPL and MPL = Cause the above isn't enough dakka...

  • @jasonames145
    @jasonames145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When the Inner Sphere surats hear the name Night Gyr, they think of silly noctournal Indonesian bovines.. But, some clanners remember losing entire swaths of sibkin forced to fight for their lives against the 10 thousand Kg., genetically bred moonstrosity... the Night Gyr! MOOOOOOORAAAAWWR!!!!!

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄

  • @JoeBossRedSeven
    @JoeBossRedSeven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Over the last few weeks you guys have helped me decide that I can skip a lot of these packs because I do not need any of the cards as I am doing what you boys do with your modified ALPHA STRIKE Games. 🍷🤖🎩

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad we could put you on the path to financial prosperity. It’s just what we do

    • @JoeBossRedSeven
      @JoeBossRedSeven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomberg3457 🤗🎲

  • @TehSquare
    @TehSquare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There’s a Gyrfalcon both as an actual bird and 3145 era mech. Maybe that was the intention? Either way Night Cow is still good

  • @JR-hj3tq
    @JR-hj3tq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nightgyr.. the holy cow of Mechs. Who would have thought the clans had a Hindu influence 🤔

    • @kalashnikovdevil
      @kalashnikovdevil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, they have a caste system

    • @JR-hj3tq
      @JR-hj3tq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kalashnikovdevil I think we are on to something here!

  • @malusignatius
    @malusignatius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Night Gyr in this context is referring to the gyrfalcon (which also get calls a gyr, just to be confusing), at least that's how I see it. However, 'night cow' is just damn funny.

  • @KeystoneCarcajou
    @KeystoneCarcajou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Linebacker was named by Natasha Kerensky and Phelan Kell. so football is apt.
    -Night Gyr C is Nasty! big beams and UAC2's plus a TarComp.
    -Arctic Cheetah was made by people who knew spheroid war. so they anticipated the Sphere throwing out RoE.

  • @ChronicUptier
    @ChronicUptier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of my favorite packs because it has a full assortment of some of the weirdest looking Clan mechs of the 3058 era ones. And all of them really captured the essence of the artwork in the new sculpts. All of them look newer and better but look just like their original artworks! The Night Gyr was known for being the first mech with laser heat sinks instead of normal double heat sinks. Though it was retrofitted to have double heat sinks in the field by Jade Falcon mechwarriors because of the difficulties in supply caused by having a unique type of heat sink. Apparently a laser heat sink Night Gyr would literally glow in the dark when it was running hot. Maybe you should do a comparo of the Night Gyr vs one of the Timber Wolf variants or some other comparable heavy like the Nova Cat, whose design was inspired by the Night Gyr.

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome comment - and I think I had a similar thought about how well they fit with the OG art

  • @robertmac8287
    @robertmac8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most of the Clan Mechs have names relating to the clan who made them or how they look. I do say most cause there are some that seem to come from left field.
    The Cougar to name a well-known exception to this rule. Named after the cougar's all over North and South America but made by Clan Jade Falcon.
    Night Gyr and Black Lanner designed by Clan Jade Falcon hense the Gyr and Lanner names.
    The Battle Cobra was designed by Clan Steel Viper, Viper and Cobra is the link here.
    The Arctic Cheetah was designed by Clan Ice Hellion the link here being Arctic and Ice.
    The linebacker gets its name from its hunched appearance, like a linebacker in American football. It's one of the random ones. It was designed by Clan Wolf.

  • @CarlosSempereChen
    @CarlosSempereChen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I blame you guys for having spent the last half hour watching falconry videos! I'm into birds but we don't have hierofalcons in California. They're the subgenus of falcons that include the lanner and gyrfalcon, which are mostly large falcons with hawk-like plumage. The gyrfalcon is the biggest falcon of all, and is apparently challenging to hunt with because they're independent-minded. It's an Arctic species and European nobility used to pay people to go to Greenland to catch them one. It's "jeer-", from Germanic for vulture because of it's size - probably should be a hard 'g' but no, the French changed it up and we got it from them.
    The Jade Falcon sourcebook says that the jade falcon species was genetically engineered from peregrines and gyrfalcons to hunt some serpent on the Pentagon Worlds... but the two species hybridize easily in real life and it's a fairly popular combination already. Night gyrs, on the other hand, don't exist yet, if the mech is named after a bird. It'd be close to an owl, imo.
    The cattle's name is just coincidence... they're named after the Gir mountain range in India. But I still look forward to seeing the mech in Cattlytics.

    • @DeathfromAboveWargaming
      @DeathfromAboveWargaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LMFAO best comment of 2021.
      Cattlytics bwahahah Im ded ☠️

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hall of fame comment and I’ll be harassing Aaron with cattlytic references.

  • @Zhool
    @Zhool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yea ok, it's a Night Cow, but it will also smoke just about any Inner Sphere mech 1 on 1.

    • @jakubfabisiak9810
      @jakubfabisiak9810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's 3700+ bv (with a 3/4 pilot), though - you'd be fighting two awesomes and a javelin with that kind of bv.

    • @subtlewhatssubtle
      @subtlewhatssubtle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@jakubfabisiak9810 And heaven help you if some crazy person brings infernos to the table.

    • @jakubfabisiak9810
      @jakubfabisiak9810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@subtlewhatssubtle you mean like a Summoner G, with 8 SRM4 and a ton of infernos?

    • @subtlewhatssubtle
      @subtlewhatssubtle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jakubfabisiak9810 I think I just heard a high pitched scream emitted from my friend who reps FWL.

  • @brianhenry152
    @brianhenry152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Night Gyr reminds me of a heavier Clan version of the Enforcer. I'm looking forward to you painting it up to look like a black and white dairy cow!

  • @TehSquare
    @TehSquare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you don’t want to play clans ComStar built the BTL-C-2O series of Battle Cobras built off of salvage they took at Tukkayid

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think I gots my next addition to my comguards!

  • @boltezarziherl9451
    @boltezarziherl9451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TAG works on missiles as well, so LRMs, ATMs even Arrows and quite few clans had support stars, combine forces concept, even mechs like Nova Cat B,Night Gyr D , Bowman.

    • @Macrochenia
      @Macrochenia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TAG only works on Semi-Guided LRMs, which are an Inner Sphere exclusive ammo type. It doesn't work on any other form of LRM or any type of SRM, MRM, or ATM.

    • @boltezarziherl9451
      @boltezarziherl9451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Macrochenia I read rules ages ago and assumed all locking missiles will have benefit of a TAG as well, after double checking, well homing Arrows IV can use it to-so Bowmen still works :) But Hell Horses, Snow Ravens, Sea fox/ Diamond sharks, Blood Spirit all used combined assets including arty strikes and orbital bombardment... in dark ages Jade Falcons used scorch earth approach on regular basses (even with nukes).

    • @Macrochenia
      @Macrochenia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@boltezarziherl9451 Yeah, artillery isn't honorable, but not every opponent the Clans fight is honorable so they still make use of the Bowman as well as other Arrow IV-carrying mechs and vehicles like the Naga, Huey, and Chaparral.

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great conversation!

  • @shaneflickinger
    @shaneflickinger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Notary Mech! Thom strikes again.

  • @matthewneuendorf5763
    @matthewneuendorf5763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Night Gyr always seemed like a knock-off Nova Cat to me.
    The Arctic Cheater, as MWO veterans will sometimes call it, was an unholy terror in that game, though I think it was more due to its bad hitboxes than actual superior performance.
    The Linebacker is supposed to be a replacement for the Mad Cat, which I don't think it succeeds at. It's a fine machine, but it's no Mad Cat.
    The Black Lanner was always super derpy, and I'm incredibly pleased that CGL managed to redesign the thing so it actually looks dangerous. It's been a favorite of my younger brother ever since the CCG days.
    The Battle Cobra actually looks kind of like its name, with the shoulders flaring out like the hood of a cobra (and it spits death with those LPLs). It's a compact, efficient package of concentrated murder.

    • @ChronicUptier
      @ChronicUptier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      When it comes to the Nova Cat, its the other way around. The Nova Cat's design was inspired by the Night Gyr.

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing can ever replace my beloved mad cat.
      And totally agree on the battle cobra! Love it
      🐍

  • @willtijerina5149
    @willtijerina5149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Linebacker, a killer printer or Death by a thousand paper cuts.

  • @sebastiang.5032
    @sebastiang.5032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm painting a Battle Cobra right this minute...

  • @kevincollier4147
    @kevincollier4147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Black Lanner and Night Gyr both designed by Jade Falcon, so the Gyr is a bird. Arctic Cheetah by Ice Hellion, Linebacker by Wolf and Battle Cobra by Star Adder.

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are all of clan wolf’s mechs named after football? I never took them for football fans

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But seriously - appreciate the lore info :)

    • @kevincollier4147
      @kevincollier4147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thomberg3457 nope, it was evidently someone who liked historical football in the original TRO. Named because of the hunched over shoulders.

  • @madcat3525
    @madcat3525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great Video! Looking forward to more. Is there a mech that Aaron ,Thom, and kevin would like Catalyst to make for wave 3?

    • @DeathfromAboveWargaming
      @DeathfromAboveWargaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wave 3 wave 3 wave 3

    • @madcat3525
      @madcat3525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DeathfromAboveWargaming I would like to see a Hollander or Scarabus.

    • @DeathfromAboveWargaming
      @DeathfromAboveWargaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I love so many designs from that late 3050 era!!

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn’t mind some of the crazier Solaris arena mech designs :D

    • @madcat3525
      @madcat3525 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomberg3457 Maybe, A future solaris battlerep.

  • @rburt3
    @rburt3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I too was a bit meh on this box for a lot of the same reason. As much as I love the goofy cobra, the box itself didn't get me giddy. I still grabbed one for completion sake. Game-wise, not a bad one in the bunch IMO though. The thing this made me realize is that even the boxes I'm not all aflutter about have some of the best damn designs we've ever seen and that alone makes them (not you Pack Hunter) worth having.

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I think I made a similar comment - I might be critical of some but seriously every mech from KS is at a baseline of awesome.

  • @androssthered1157
    @androssthered1157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dont know about iconic but the Cheetah is a decent light mech that clans need for that lower battle value.

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a clutch play for sure

  • @Macrochenia
    @Macrochenia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm pretty sure the Night Gyr is supposed to be the Clans doing their usual wacky mad geneticist thing and crossing a Nightjar with a Gyrfalcon. But Night Cow is better.

    • @DeathfromAboveWargaming
      @DeathfromAboveWargaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Weird things happen when you start crossing animals. “And thus the Night Cow is born”

  • @lordcypher7922
    @lordcypher7922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the black lander and the linebacker I think I need to add this box set to my nova cats

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What galaxy you reppin’?

    • @lordcypher7922
      @lordcypher7922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomberg3457 I haven’t started painting yet as I haven’t decided whether to go alpha or beta galaxy

  • @TinBane
    @TinBane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every box with a clan mech over 40 tons, Aaron: It’s cool but it’s so expensive :P Is that just your Is mindset, or do you have a lineup of heavies and assaults for clan, that are worthy (and not because they are iconic?).
    The linebacker I think wasn’t a straight up timberwolf replacement, I think it was expedient to build with factories that couldn’t build madcats, IIRC?
    EDIT: No, clan wolf wanted a faster timberwolf replacement, it is a little faster. It's also 20% cheaper in terms of Cbills.

    • @DeathfromAboveWargaming
      @DeathfromAboveWargaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahah you got me and it’s fair 😛 I think the clans in general just pay out the nose for ‘mechs because they are almost overgunned and too fast. It’s more of an issue in the BV calc imo than the mechs themselves.
      There are a good number of alternate configs that fit the cost/benefit bill for me - I think the Summon A/B are solid. Stormcrow C is so much more useful than a prime (cost wise). Battle Cobras for days haha
      Idk I always think about in the context of initiative, positioning, options… there is an inherent advantage in numbers, and too many costly clan mechs can nullify their bigger guns and faster speeds.

  • @sharlin648
    @sharlin648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have to wonder what the IS names are, as these are the Clan names. Or did the Wolves when they buggered off go "Yeah this is their names" and they just used that. Linebacker sounds like an IS designation. Great vid as always :)

    • @TehSquare
      @TehSquare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If I remember right the Linebacker was commissioned by Phelan Kell and Natasha Kerensky and got named after a Linebacker because it’s wide and hunched over like a football player. Wolf-In-Exile mostly uses them so that might explain why it doesn’t have an IS name

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris - is football part of clanner culture??
      I’d imagine it turned into something like blood bowl if they do. Would love a short story about their love of football.

    • @TehSquare
      @TehSquare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thomberg3457 Clan Ghost Bear is all about football, there's a BattleCorps short story called Three Points of Pride which is about a planet challenging the Ghost Bears to a game of football as their trial of possession during the Clan Invasion

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris thank you SO MUCH - do you know if that short story still available???

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Found it - it’s included in Battetech: Onslaught - Tales from the Clan Invasion
      And I am 10000% ordering it right now.
      Should I do a yt vid of a dramatic reading of it?

  • @matthewbirdsall9518
    @matthewbirdsall9518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We need a star or two of clan mechs named after football positions!

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are there enough of them??

  • @zot8218
    @zot8218 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The night gyr is one of thoms jade falcon mechs so i would assume it was named after a bird rather than a cow.
    Also in the lore it had some experimental heat sink technology that made it produce light instead of heat - so it would start to glow or radiate light - so either at night in my mind it was like a bird with glowing wings (I guess like a fleshlight ...I mean flashlight) or maybe it looked like an irradiated cow... Either way that was one really one off thing.
    The clans are wierd regardless so who knows.

  • @Demolitiondude
    @Demolitiondude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dammit guys! There's a better cattle master?!

  • @horsemumbler1
    @horsemumbler1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try running a commando IIC with that Battle Cobra.

  • @verysilentmouse
    @verysilentmouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol night cow

  • @pelmen1294
    @pelmen1294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do belive that the night gyr is a jade falcon mech and since they are falcon that would be the gyr falcon. not some dumb cow.

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t you call my night cow dumb! She’s a lady

  • @wuushew
    @wuushew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They butchered the legs on the Linebacker

  • @Archiemonty
    @Archiemonty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm guessing the lone dislike for this video was an IS player 😊

  • @andreassweet1994
    @andreassweet1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wanted to ask this on a Destiny game.
    Your thoughts on this house rule: if you don't attack during the attack phase you can reassign one tick in less merging two ticks.
    Haven't had a chance to play any BattleTech games yet.

    • @DeathfromAboveWargaming
      @DeathfromAboveWargaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yah the issue is recalcing the weapon damage on the fly, the missile maxs, etc. This is why we just left it “no reassignment”

    • @andreassweet1994
      @andreassweet1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DeathfromAboveWargaming could always have a cheat sheet ready for common groups.

    • @thomberg3457
      @thomberg3457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not a house rule that breaks any mechanics so I’d not throw up any flags - just the considerations aaron mentions

    • @andreassweet1994
      @andreassweet1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomberg3457 I understand which is why I made the cheat suggestion. I haven't had a chance to play for a long time so I didn't think about that. I do appreciate both of your thoughts on it.

    • @DeathfromAboveWargaming
      @DeathfromAboveWargaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Less of a cheat sheet and more of math on the fly. Its easy enough with basic weapons but can get really tricky with a bunch of clusters and missiles… its why we built an app for card building