I like how it disconnects the battery at 10:30 to prevent further damage to the HV battery and then tries to conserve 12 volt power by dimming the screen and shutting off other things (as shown by the OBD dongle). It shows how this is a designed and controlled scenario.
@@wojciechkruzel6569 There is an emergency cable at the hole for the tow pin. You energize this with a 12V charger or battery and voila: The frunk pops open and you can access the 12V battery. Older Model S have two terminals behind the nose cone connected to the 12V battery (via 40A fuse) und a pull cable to open the frunk.
@@wojciechkruzel6569 Sure, is true. You don't want to know about the emergency release for the rear doors in many modern cars.....that is almost criminal.
21 miles from ZERO is impressive. I drove my 2020 Y 6 miles past ZERO and chickened out. Thanks for showing us mere mortals what happens when you run out of juice.
@@N0xiety You gotta try really hard to be stranded nowadays, there’s plenty of places with chargers here to plug in. And at least in Europe i’m pretty sure no one can refuse to allow you to charge, provided you can pay for it of course.
With my Model S85 years ago I tried to be cool and planned to arrive at the SuC Senlis (France, our way to Paris) with 3%. Stupid me chose the wrong toll lane exit, my GF gave me the look because she told me that i am wrong. "Naah, we areOK" So, wrong exit, had to go 30km loop, then stupid me took another wrong exit, I just ignored the nav. So another 3km detour. GF gave me the look again :-( But we made it to the SuC with no problem. Never ran out of juice in 8 years EVs and 270tkm total. Even tough I tried ;-)
I arrived on a trip to Germany with 1% at the SuC because I was driving too fast on the Autobahn, to my surprise even at 2% I didn't get any power reduction dots on the display. I floored it when I saw the chargers and it felt like no power reduction. It dropped to 1% then (and my wife gave me also that look :o) Anyway, still don't know why and how that happened but it was a magical thing. Now I aim for 5% just to keep it on the safe side as I'm also good at taking wrong exits
My 13 Model S started shutting down at 1%. 0% was unfortunately 0. It’s amazing how hard it is to push these things. Especially when you are 100m away from a supercharger and it’s a very slight incline. I charged horizontally across the s/c and everyone was looking at me. I said to them “I deserve to park like this”
"Do you have a, I voted for Biden!, sicker on your car?" "yes?" Tesla hangs up. "At Tesla it is our policy to not support customers who vote against our best interest." - Tesla customer service
Very impressive how they designed the EOL (end of life) for battery charge. The approximate 4-ish% of capacity is recovered so quickly at 250KW...oh my goodness...just while you were talking for a minute or so, watching the range come up was very cool.
I thought the same thing. Really impressive that with a deep discharged battery from second 1 on it is hammering with full power. I guess not the best for the battery health, but you don't have to do it like that every time.
Very useful test. Looks like the pack voltage got down to 256 volts. Divided by 96 cells that is 2.64volts per cell - pretty aggressive! They are obviously very confident in their batteries!
The Metron device is also useful for electric scooter. Most e-scooters have only shuko. When I still had a lead acid battery my range was so low that I would not be able to make it from my house to the RAI convention center and back. There were no e-bike chargers at that time, so I used public transport in stead of scooter. Now with lithium PO4 battery much more range and very little degradation
Mg5 ev below 25% drops rapidly and turns red. 17% warning reduced power. 3% warning pull over and stop battery exhausted! Range zero! Managed 3 miles (5KM) in hilly Bath at 20 mph max to a broken charger! Managed to get a free charge out of it eventually though. Still a brilliant car though.
Please do the same test with a Model 3 SR+ 60kWh LFP. I am always unsure if you can drive the LFP cars a decent amount of kilometers below zero too or not.
That dunk sound you heard just before you put the hazard lights on was most likely the contacters opening to prevent the battery from getting dangerous low voltage
LFP Battery: Hi Björn, thank you for the video. Could you please repeat it with a LFP battery and high energy buffer. My M3 sometimes has an energy buffer over 6 kwh. I then leave it under 10% or fully charged for a while ("deep sleep") so that the energy buffer goes back to its normal 2.4 kwh. But it would be very interesting to know whether the high energy buffer can be used. I think the buffer is created by spending longer periods of time in 20-80% SOC. Charging to 100% and driving off immediately does not reset the energy buffer. Thank you and all the best for you and your family.
I like this new series of driving cars to zero range. Although it's a hassle for you (kind of), it is something not everyone does (at least not in this scope with different cars).
One importante thing Bjorn that should be shared: Some EV's came with a 16 amp charger without any possible manual configuration. This will trip the solar generator and if you are not able to control the current on the car (not on teslas, since you can do it on the charging menu) you won't be able to charge.
Hi, very informative and helpful test, do you think that the VW ID family of cars with the new software (3.1) would react the same as the fat e-tron? Are you planning on testing an ID4 or 5 at some point? Keep up the good work!
Careful with the Y - the 12v dies very quickly and then you can’t open charge flap or start the charge! I’m talking about 10 minutes. I did this test for one of my videos and we were not quick enough to get plugged in. So then had to boost 12v to then enable to initiate a charge
May I suggest keeping the Ecoflow right next to an AC outlet of the car, for example at the rear-center vents or in the passenger foot well? Might help quite a bit at quickly cooling the thing down, with the AC blasting at LO.
You should cut out that part in your video about the Type 2 to Schuko socket adapter and post it as a separate video. It is quite useful, but most will never find out that such thing exist, because only very limited amount of people will watch a 27 min long video to the end
Asphalt is hot. When you put Ecoflow on the hot asphalt, it gets hotter. Shoult try to put it in the gras, 1 meter away, on the right side of the road, on shadow of the car, not in direct sunlight.
At 17:20 it is really interesting because the car actually heats the battery up like it is supercharging. It looks like the octovalve is heat scavenging from the AC into the battery enough to heat the inlet temperature to >50C, so your using the AC probably didn't affect range much. I wonder if the battery has better characteristics at the higher temperature. Looking at the coolant temperature rise and flow rate, it looks like the battery is getting heated with about 11kw which is consistent with the AC running at full power (about 10kw of heat flow).
Small correction (great video!) Each 12V auxiliary socket may be loaded with 12A according to TESLA. Consequently, at 12V, you can draw 144W instead of 120W of power from each of the two sockets, for a combined total of 288W. In the short term, 16A is also possible. (TESLA does not mention for how long). It would be interesting to know what power you can really draw from these sockets permanently, is there a warning for too high a power draw, is the warranty void, what power can you draw from both sockets at the same time, is that enough for camping and at what point is an EcoFlow worthwhile, can other EVs provide more power?
- Hello, Tesla Service?!? I've stranded my Model Y in the middle of nowhere. - Roger that! Got your location! Hold on - we are sending a T-megapack on a Ford F-250 Truck! You got any aftermarket accessories? - Yes, rubber floormats.. - Nope, sorry, too much modification on a vechicle! Your insurance is cancelled! Oh by the way, we put you off the superchanging network too! Bye-bye! Oh, and a last thing - we turned your autopilot off too, tesla does no cashbacks btw! Have a nice day!
Keeping the battery (non LFP) between 20 and 80% is best for long-term health, and keeping it below 10% and above 100% for a short time as possible is best. Whatever you do, don't let it sit at 0% for a long time! It'll self-discharge a bit each day and be being slowly damaged. Leave it a very long time and it might be very badly damaged and not recharge.
Quick maths (13:45) : 2328/143=16.3 So if you took 16 solar panels with you, you could charge even with empty Ecoflow. Anyone care to estimate, how long it would take to fully charge with that setup?
Hmm (21:14), well, if it says 35 minutes remaining with 250 kW, and Ecoflow gave 2.5 kW, then it's 100 times, so... 100 times half an hour is 50 hours. And the Sun gives that power for 10 hours a day, then it would take five days, to fully charge? Is that about right?
@@davidbeppler3032 yeah, also depends on the weather of course our PV setup collects 30kWh on a sunny day if the weather is cloudy that drops to 6-7kWh for that day
@@szaboaz the charging curve at high power chargers is not linear so you cannot calculate the way you describe. However, when you charge at 2,5 KW, the “curve” is flat and the way to calculate the charging time will be to divide the battery capacity by the charging power (after losses). So, let’s say a 70kWh battery, at 2,2 kW will be fully charged in about 32 hours.
Bjorn thank you for the amazing test! Totally agree being an old Li-Po RC flyer, it’s not that the battery is amazing, so much that the Tesla engineers set a larger power reserve (deeper discharge allowed) in software. You could theoretically drive 60km after 0% (if the engineers would allow) however your poor Tesla batteries would suffer capacity loss, gassing, or death below 2.7v/cell. The smartest thing you did was to recharge immediately upon reaching low voltage. Any person leaving their poor Tesla at -4% discharge overnight or longer, will likely suffer capacity loss. Also, one should be careful in charging an over-discharged battery with max current. I’m actually very surprised the SuperCharger allowed 250Amps while below 0%. Please check your estimated capacity a month after this test and report back if it changed significantly. My gut feeling is that it dropped a little.
I like how it disconnects the battery at 10:30 to prevent further damage to the HV battery and then tries to conserve 12 volt power by dimming the screen and shutting off other things (as shown by the OBD dongle). It shows how this is a designed and controlled scenario.
Tesla Alien Tech.
@@wojciechkruzel6569 There is an emergency cable at the hole for the tow pin. You energize this with a 12V charger or battery and voila: The frunk pops open and you can access the 12V battery. Older Model S have two terminals behind the nose cone connected to the 12V battery (via 40A fuse) und a pull cable to open the frunk.
@@wojciechkruzel6569 Sure, is true. You don't want to know about the emergency release for the rear doors in many modern cars.....that is almost criminal.
11:36 Fully respect you staging the clickbait photo 📸 This channel deserves more views!
Voice from the house in the distance:
"How unlucky is this driver? He's broken down right here in 17 different cars this week!!"
That farmer will be fed up soon! "What??? Again??" 😂😂
Too bad Bjorn can’t “break down” in front of the same farmhouse where he flashes his high beams.
First here. Respect to the Godfather of Ev testing
Well said! Björn is "THE" EV-Ninja! 👍🏻🥷
I like this drive to zero.
Amazing how different the cars and brands react 😳✌️
Vielen Dank Björn 😁
21 miles from ZERO is impressive. I drove my 2020 Y 6 miles past ZERO and chickened out. Thanks for showing us mere mortals what happens when you run out of juice.
Results may vary based on the battery.
Yea, it almost seems impossible to be stranded on accident.
@@N0xiety You gotta try really hard to be stranded nowadays, there’s plenty of places with chargers here to plug in. And at least in Europe i’m pretty sure no one can refuse to allow you to charge, provided you can pay for it of course.
I would prefer more accurance and have more range above zero...
@@tymanot The accuracy at low state of charge is lower, it is better to have a 20-30 km buffer than a 0-10km buffer
These tests mean goodbye to range anxiety forever. Knowledge is KIIING!
Battery price is about $30,000. Let him put it in extreme test!😳 Yes, I know, Chernobyl reactor was priceless and they did test anyway.
how so, it just goes to show how impractical it is to an EV
@@deficator750 its about trust in the range prediction the car makes. Simples.
@@jarikinnunen1718 what?
With my Model S85 years ago I tried to be cool and planned to arrive at the SuC Senlis (France, our way to Paris) with 3%. Stupid me chose the wrong toll lane exit, my GF gave me the look because she told me that i am wrong. "Naah, we areOK" So, wrong exit, had to go 30km loop, then stupid me took another wrong exit, I just ignored the nav. So another 3km detour. GF gave me the look again :-( But we made it to the SuC with no problem. Never ran out of juice in 8 years EVs and 270tkm total. Even tough I tried ;-)
Assuming 3% ~= 12km (?)
That is a 33-12 = 21km buffer on an old battery... That's nice
I arrived on a trip to Germany with 1% at the SuC because I was driving too fast on the Autobahn, to my surprise even at 2% I didn't get any power reduction dots on the display. I floored it when I saw the chargers and it felt like no power reduction. It dropped to 1% then (and my wife gave me also that look :o) Anyway, still don't know why and how that happened but it was a magical thing. Now I aim for 5% just to keep it on the safe side as I'm also good at taking wrong exits
@@lucamig5724 We drove with 70 kph on the highway for the detour, that reduced consumption a lot
My 13 Model S started shutting down at 1%. 0% was unfortunately 0. It’s amazing how hard it is to push these things. Especially when you are 100m away from a supercharger and it’s a very slight incline. I charged horizontally across the s/c and everyone was looking at me. I said to them “I deserve to park like this”
The simulated Tesla service call was just too funny! 🤣
"Do you have a, I voted for Biden!, sicker on your car?" "yes?" Tesla hangs up. "At Tesla it is our policy to not support customers who vote against our best interest." - Tesla customer service
I was waiting for a "shiiieeeeet"
Bjørn, you are just one of a kind.
That is the reason I like the Model Y. So much space in the trunk!
Bjorn, another amazing video. You are the best EV TH-camr out there bar none!! Keep up the good work.
Smart to add solar after seeing the Audi test.
Very impressive how they designed the EOL (end of life) for battery charge. The approximate 4-ish% of capacity is recovered so quickly at 250KW...oh my goodness...just while you were talking for a minute or so, watching the range come up was very cool.
I thought the same thing. Really impressive that with a deep discharged battery from second 1 on it is hammering with full power. I guess not the best for the battery health, but you don't have to do it like that every time.
Very useful test. Looks like the pack voltage got down to 256 volts. Divided by 96 cells that is 2.64volts per cell - pretty aggressive! They are obviously very confident in their batteries!
Do Millennium Falcon next! I'm sure owners of older Model Ss like me will appreciate it :)
Agree! We drive a 2016 model S
Yes please. I was always told 0 is 0 for a 85. But of course, maybe Tesla changed the bms and took some kWh away for such reserve.
Excellent video Bjorn. It is great to see how smart alternatives can make life so much easier. You lead the pack in useful information.
I have new title suggestion for this series: “Zero to Hero with Bjorn”
Or rather "Hero to Zero" but "Bjørn goes deeper" would be more classic.
A very graceful zero. Thanks for showing. Props to the powertrain team
The Metron device is also useful for electric scooter. Most e-scooters have only shuko. When I still had a lead acid battery my range was so low that I would not be able to make it from my house to the RAI convention center and back. There were no e-bike chargers at that time, so I used public transport in stead of scooter. Now with lithium PO4 battery much more range and very little degradation
Mg5 ev below 25% drops rapidly and turns red. 17% warning reduced power. 3% warning pull over and stop battery exhausted! Range zero! Managed 3 miles (5KM) in hilly Bath at 20 mph max to a broken charger! Managed to get a free charge out of it eventually though.
Still a brilliant car though.
What does that farmer even think...
This idiot running out of juice beside my house multiple times with multiple cars :))
I love this guy.
Great video! It's so enjoyable binging Tesla content until I buy my own😊
Next video. Making waffles at charging station using type 2 to schuko converter.
@21:15 interesting, the car automatically reduced the charge limit to 80% to discourage you from hogging a charger for longer than necessary.
Old feature.
@@bjornnyland Aah, I'd never seen it before so it was new to me!
Please do the same test with a Model 3 SR+ 60kWh LFP. I am always unsure if you can drive the LFP cars a decent amount of kilometers below zero too or not.
That dunk sound you heard just before you put the hazard lights on was most likely the contacters opening to prevent the battery from getting dangerous low voltage
Power switch for HV battery shutting down.
LFP Battery: Hi Björn, thank you for the video. Could you please repeat it with a LFP battery and high energy buffer. My M3 sometimes has an energy buffer over 6 kwh. I then leave it under 10% or fully charged for a while ("deep sleep") so that the energy buffer goes back to its normal 2.4 kwh. But it would be very interesting to know whether the high energy buffer can be used. I think the buffer is created by spending longer periods of time in 20-80% SOC. Charging to 100% and driving off immediately does not reset the energy buffer. Thank you and all the best for you and your family.
Well done. This is why I am a Tesla Fan Bot! Model Y never dies!
Excellent study Brother!
Cheers, Eric
ohhh i love you Bjorn!
I love the acting on the phone.
The warnings are similar with the 2020 M3 SR+, i managed to go -2 % last winter..
Did you end up stuck or you reached the charger?
the metron shukul toy is also useful for e-bike tourers who're too timid to ask a cafe whether they can charge their batteries or not
🤘All praise the Tesla Overlord 🤘
I like this new series of driving cars to zero range. Although it's a hassle for you (kind of), it is something not everyone does (at least not in this scope with different cars).
What car have done some in uk over the last 2 years very interesting
Can you do the same test for (any) LFP variant?
Tesla for the Win
One importante thing Bjorn that should be shared: Some EV's came with a 16 amp charger without any possible manual configuration. This will trip the solar generator and if you are not able to control the current on the car (not on teslas, since you can do it on the charging menu) you won't be able to charge.
The ecoflow will send the maximum it can, no matter if the car asks for more.
@@Evans_Man it will disconnected as an overload protection.
I don't think many came with a standard socket and 16A. Continuous 16A is a fire hazard. I never saw anyone coming with more than 13A.
Hi, very informative and helpful test, do you think that the VW ID family of cars with the new software (3.1) would react the same as the fat e-tron? Are you planning on testing an ID4 or 5 at some point? Keep up the good work!
Careful with the Y - the 12v dies very quickly and then you can’t open charge flap or start the charge! I’m talking about 10 minutes. I did this test for one of my videos and we were not quick enough to get plugged in. So then had to boost 12v to then enable to initiate a charge
So also make sure drop windows and leave door open. Any kids in back would be locked in!!
Love it. Hope you can get to an Enyaq for this test soon :) Thanks.
May I suggest keeping the Ecoflow right next to an AC outlet of the car, for example at the rear-center vents or in the passenger foot well? Might help quite a bit at quickly cooling the thing down, with the AC blasting at LO.
Hello Bjorn, top video.
Do You will compile excel file with all this test ?
”…can’t hear it because there are so many other fans running.. Onlyfans…” 😅
You should cut out that part in your video about the Type 2 to Schuko socket adapter and post it as a separate video. It is quite useful, but most will never find out that such thing exist, because only very limited amount of people will watch a 27 min long video to the end
Good idea. I will shoot a separate (new) video about it.
Commendable: Experimentally provocative!
Asphalt is hot. When you put Ecoflow on the hot asphalt, it gets hotter. Shoult try to put it in the gras, 1 meter away, on the right side of the road, on shadow of the car, not in direct sunlight.
These are great videos and the thumbnails are perfect
With the Shuko you can fill the external battery and then bring the battery to the car :)
The fake phone call is my favorite part of these lmao
At 17:20 it is really interesting because the car actually heats the battery up like it is supercharging. It looks like the octovalve is heat scavenging from the AC into the battery enough to heat the inlet temperature to >50C, so your using the AC probably didn't affect range much. I wonder if the battery has better characteristics at the higher temperature. Looking at the coolant temperature rise and flow rate, it looks like the battery is getting heated with about 11kw which is consistent with the AC running at full power (about 10kw of heat flow).
I would like to see EVs comparison in heavy city traffic. That is 70% of live of the cars, at least in Europe. Name it "City Traffic Test".
Do you have a CSS out there? That doesn't seem like a Tesla adapter when you supercharged.
nice video! my guy talking about dp at 22:11 😂
Small correction (great video!)
Each 12V auxiliary socket may be loaded with 12A according to TESLA. Consequently, at 12V, you can draw 144W instead of 120W of power from each of the two sockets, for a combined total of 288W. In the short term, 16A is also possible. (TESLA does not mention for how long).
It would be interesting to know what power you can really draw from these sockets permanently, is there a warning for too high a power draw, is the warranty void, what power can you draw from both sockets at the same time, is that enough for camping and at what point is an EcoFlow worthwhile, can other EVs provide more power?
I was waiting for autopilot to engage and override the human to take itself to the charger before it was too late.
I was expecting it to start hunting children.
- Hello, Tesla Service?!? I've stranded my Model Y in the middle of nowhere.
- Roger that! Got your location! Hold on - we are sending a T-megapack on a Ford F-250 Truck! You got any aftermarket accessories?
- Yes, rubber floormats..
- Nope, sorry, too much modification on a vechicle! Your insurance is cancelled!
Oh by the way, we put you off the superchanging network too! Bye-bye!
Oh, and a last thing - we turned your autopilot off too, tesla does no cashbacks btw! Have a nice day!
You should write sketch comedy for boomer-tok. Would get a lot of views.
Lol 😂
This programming is a million times better than the Audi and nio.
It would be interesting to see what the Fiat 500e does when it goes to 0 (because I own it ahahah) thank you Björn!
Keeping the battery (non LFP) between 20 and 80% is best for long-term health, and keeping it below 10% and above 100% for a short time as possible is best. Whatever you do, don't let it sit at 0% for a long time! It'll self-discharge a bit each day and be being slowly damaged. Leave it a very long time and it might be very badly damaged and not recharge.
Awesome test again, but can you reveiw more cool ev/tech products? So much out there that no one knows of.
So now I know how my car will react when totally empty! 🌝
Cool sharing. Would u be able to test a Polestar 2 in a similar way too?
I would love to see this test on the FIAT 500E 42kWh battery - could be interesting to see how much buffer you have.
Cool Video Bjorn, enjoying watching you
Since i just bought EQS, Please test EQS
Quick maths (13:45) : 2328/143=16.3
So if you took 16 solar panels with you, you could charge even with empty Ecoflow. Anyone care to estimate, how long it would take to fully charge with that setup?
Hmm (21:14), well, if it says 35 minutes remaining with 250 kW, and Ecoflow gave 2.5 kW, then it's 100 times, so... 100 times half an hour is 50 hours. And the Sun gives that power for 10 hours a day, then it would take five days, to fully charge? Is that about right?
@@szaboaz You never get full charge for 10 hours. Better double it.
@@davidbeppler3032 yeah, also depends on the weather of course
our PV setup collects 30kWh on a sunny day if the weather is cloudy that drops to 6-7kWh for that day
It will reach max. temp even faster if you are also charging with solar.
@@szaboaz the charging curve at high power chargers is not linear so you cannot calculate the way you describe. However, when you charge at 2,5 KW, the “curve” is flat and the way to calculate the charging time will be to divide the battery capacity by the charging power (after losses). So, let’s say a 70kWh battery, at 2,2 kW will be fully charged in about 32 hours.
I feel safer going close to 0% on my model 3 now. Thank you Bjorn!
I absolutely love these videos
Thanks a lot, Bjorn, for the Drive To Zéro Test. You Always Bring your Intelligence.
Hello
Can you test the Tesla model 3 2022 with LFP ?
7:28 a very interesting turn of things Björn 😂😂
Amazing - Tesla makes the best cars in the world
Björn try it with Ioniq 5 or ev6
To rapidly cool down the ecoflow you could put it somewhere where the ac will blow in the direction of the fans. That should make it a lot faster
That's exactly what I did.
*Farmer from red house: **_"Look! That crazy asian guy is out of juice again!"_*
Died @ 256 volt divided with 96?cells; 2,67v/cell. Thats low! Check cell voltage diff in SMT at those level would be interesting
Bjorn thank you for the amazing test!
Totally agree being an old Li-Po RC flyer, it’s not that the battery is amazing, so much that the Tesla engineers set a larger power reserve (deeper discharge allowed) in software. You could theoretically drive 60km after 0% (if the engineers would allow) however your poor Tesla batteries would suffer capacity loss, gassing, or death below 2.7v/cell. The smartest thing you did was to recharge immediately upon reaching low voltage. Any person leaving their poor Tesla at -4% discharge overnight or longer, will likely suffer capacity loss. Also, one should be careful in charging an over-discharged battery with max current. I’m actually very surprised the SuperCharger allowed 250Amps while below 0%.
Please check your estimated capacity a month after this test and report back if it changed significantly. My gut feeling is that it dropped a little.
You killed it with those types of videos - great to watch. Does it make sense to try this with a Model 3 or you get the same results roughly?
Same
Polestar next?
You are so funny, its a pleasure watch your videos, helpfull and full of teaching!!
Tesla kicks ass for the Lord - great movie reference hahahhaa
Kudos
The solar is a nice addition
Does this mean you can argue that Tesla have no hard buffer? It is all up to the driver? OR is it additional hard buffer below 0?
Great video, another dimension to your testing, super interesting
Would love to see this test performed with a car that has a really small battery, like a Mini SE.
Tesla for the win 👍
Is there no problem driving with 18" on a model Y performance?
What are those rims?
Bjorn, I have watched three of these drive to zero videos, and you have stopped at the same spot, within like 100 meters each time.
Like a ninja.
Hey Audi, this is how 'Vorsprung' looks like.
Would be interesting to see how the 2022 LCI bmw ix3 behaves in this situation.
Please add the details at the end of the videos like for the 1k km challenge.
Bra test og mye bra info 👍👍
The farmer is like: aww this guy again...
Model3 longrange 2019. Är det nåt att ha? 😊
Would be really useful to see this Test with an older, used Model 3 without octovalve. Will it be similar?
Killing the battery 🪫
Citroen Ami also charges via schuko plug. Also, maybe you could test Citroen Ami, not just these pricey cars ;)