@@MrNsb93 So true. I always feel for anyone who has to interview Raven because she seems angry and doesn't open up. I almost feel like she still wants to be interviewed like she was when she was a kid because that is the only way she knows how to be.
What a beautiful segment. I think Mayim & Raven are about to become BFFs & that will be amazing for both of them. The recognition of the issues they struggle with that are unique to child actors is one factor, but I think this will allow their partners more insight, too. Yet another wonderful episode - thank you so much for sharing!
When we’ll learn about not-labelling & fluidity? I was a kind of tomboy growig up. Playing with my bro & his friend soccer & trains. I use actually dress daily in a way most people would describe as “masculine” (blazers, trousers, oxford shirts & shoes) & barely wear skirts & stockings (so uncomfy)..I was always conscious & clear from my teens of what my own sexuality was liking men & married the most amazing (in all senses) one. We’re parents & grandparents. But I’m sure lots of people think of me at first sight quite different from who I really am. Again, stupid labels.. Another FABULOUS episode. AGAIN. And counting…
Hi. Dealing with fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome, I understand its not easy having a chronic illness. As you said you have good and bad days. On a good day enjoy it as much as you can with your family and on bad days deal with it as best as your body and mind allows. One day at a time.
I love the candor and transparency of your episodes and enjoyed the banter and down to earth-ness of this episode. You and Raven-Symone have always been "there is NO box" type of people. Keep flow'n
@Mayim Bialik My pleasure Dr. Bialik! I am totally fan girlin' right now! 😱 You're amazin' - the 90's was everything! Peace ✌🏽 Love ❤️ and Light 🕯to you and Jonathan!
One of my favorite episodes of all time! I finally understand a little about what it means to grow up in "the industry" and the effect it has on development. I also loved watching two couples have real conversations about their relationships and laugh as we relate to the similarities in our experiences. Keep up the good work, please!
I was so happy for Raven when she took her break. I know she enjoys her work, but I hope she finds a way to balance home/private life with public/work life. Take those breaks, Raven!!!
Loved this so much! When Mayim and Raven spoke about expressing (or rather not expressing!) anger, I cried because that's exactly how I am. I can say I'm disappointed or just keep bottling until I feel complete rage... But I can't get that out either because I fear the monster will never go back in the cage...
I really loved this episode so much! It felt so calm and open with regards to the exchanges between all 4 parties. It was really beautiful to hear Raven talk about her experiences, and the two of them together, you can just tell that they're truly content. Thank you Mayim and Jonathan, this was so special, keep up the amazing work you do! Big shout out all the way from South Africa, where mental health care isn't really frowned upon or seen as bad or weird but it's still something people don't really discuss that much or are too shy to seek out. My mom & I follow your episodes religiously and we love getting together and talking about them afterwards and the great thing about it is every episode brings something to the table. No matter who the guest is, there is something universal or relatable in each and every one. So thank you!
2 of my favorite child stars having a conversation?? 🤯🤯🤯 Love you both! Raven-Symone, loved her since she stepped foot on the Cosby Show, you brought a light there cuz Rudy was getting older, they needed more young energy! You were phenomenal and still are! Raven's wife, I can see why they are together, even though, I still don't get how you never saw ANY of her shows 👀🤣, that must be a running joke in the house 🤣🤣🤣 Mayim, as always, great episode! As a Black girl growing up, people thought I was weird because I loved Blossom and Beaches, I was so excited to see you in Beaches, all of you are so awesome! And I love how Jonathan broke all that down, their break up story 💪🏾
Thank you so much for having Raven on this episode today. I absolutely love her on ''That's so Raven'' and ''Raven's Home". Keep up the great work on this podcast Mayim!
Just don’t celebrate thanksgiving tommorrow… it’s all about the destruction of the native Americans. According to mayim. Don’t be a hypocrite and a suppressor of indigenous people.
Best podcast yet! Bring Raven and Miranda back for another conversation. Thanks for all the info and interactions and perspectives you and Jonathan share.
Really love raven and that’s what brought me here. Have since binge watched the podcast and just want to say I love it. Keep them coming, you always have such amazing guests.
OMG I'm on the verg of tears. This was amazing and I needed to hear this today. I'm not famous but can so relate to so much of this. Thank you all for sharing your lives with us.
Raven has gorgeous skin and she looks so much healthier than she did when she was on The View. I can’t imagine what she’s lived through being famous since 3 years old and never having anonymity.
I know about the disconnection from anger. My therapist asked me what anger looked like to me. I said, "out of control". Feelings in general, I think through. My childhood was just not safe to express my emotions. Thanks to my Parentification to care for my sibling and mother.
"THAT'S HIM! THAT'S YOU! *repeats it to Johnathan as if he couldn't hear her* HE WILL SUCK THE JOY OUT OF ROOM!" This was one of the best discussions on this channel! The natural chemistry and comradery is instant and there was such great laughs talking about pain. When in comes to dynamics, it is so important that each person can take a moment to laugh at how ridiculous each of us is.
What a lovely couple. Raven has always had that personality that jumped through the camera. It's really beautiful to see the way she looks at her wife and how beautifully relaxed she is now. ❤️
I appreciate the conversation about labels. I recently had a similar conversation with a few coworkers. Someone said “goodnight ladies” as they were leaving. One of my coworkers turned to myself & the other person in the room and said “but no one in the room is a lady,” then realized they don’t know how I identify and asked how I identify. It was the first time I’ve given myself a label as not always identifying as a woman & didn’t like feeling like I needed to give myself a label. I hate that we live in a world where everyone and everything needs a label. I just want to be who I am without a specific label to meet everyone else’s expectations of what they think I should be because of that label.
It is so simple to avoid this altogether by just not saying “Goodnight, ladies.” There are other, and easy, ways to address each other: by name, ideally, but even “you two.” I don’t know. I’m just spitballing. But it’s an interesting conversation.
I’m sorry you had to go through that. I believe gender/sexuality is a spectrum and its not always black and white , but I also see how labels can be important for some people (like for me,personally) but again, I understand not wanting to be labeled or even changing how you label yourself throughout your life. I guess most of us are just trying to figure ourselves out.
So sorry to hear that Kristin. As I wrote here, when we’ll learn about not-labelling? I was a kind of tomboy growig up. Even had “Raulito” as a surname by the main character of an Argentina’s film ab a boyish girl. I dress daily in a way most people would describe as “masculine” as adult. Never had doubts of my sexuality. I like men. Married the most amazing one. Still long-term marriage being parents and grandparents. But I’m sure that most people think of me at first sight quite different as who I really am. Again, stupid labels…Biggest hug! 🫂xx
Or, just don’t saying anything to anyone. This current society is where up is down and down is up. Idiotic pronoun usage. Made up words to fit a narrative. The only proper response to the question “What are your pronouns?” is to reject the premise and refuse to answer.
I LOVE RAVEN 💖 she is a beautiful soul!! I also grew up with Blossom and LOVED that show as well thank you for that trip down memory lane 🥰 I am thankful for all your hard work and for you inspiring all women from all walks of life! You are an amazing person Ms Mayim and I'm grateful thank you 🥰 much respect love and light to you my friend ❤️
Oh my gosh I love them! They are the couple friend everyone wants/needs. I loved their banter and you can see they really enjoy each other. I loved it. Thank you for interviewing them!
This was an EXCELLENT exchange with all parties involved. RAVEN you are a terrific spokes person for the LGBTQ community. Mayim loved your interview exchange with Miranda and Raven. Thanks ever so much.
This was so beautiful and cathartic and seeing Raven be herself and speak so honestly and be vulnerable was such a beautiful reflection! Thank you, Mayim for hosting what is one of my TOP PODCASTS!
"the terms help until they dont" 100%. This was just such a great conversation. I wish I had such articulate, self aware, and intelligent friends like this to just banter with all day. Thank you for all your sharings. Mayim, this is my 4th episode today - Im hooked! You're fantastic.
I feel like I'm such a mixture of all 4 people in this podcast it's wild. How I cope with things, people pleasing, reading people's emotions at all times, ignoring my own emotions to fix others and deal with my issues by myself, self comfort. I definitely needed to hear all of these things. Also their break-up and the breakdown of that. I had something similar happen with someone. And when it happened I knew we would be in each other's lives again and it happened when things were starting to get real. There is so much love there and fear was getting in the way at that time. It's so important to have grace, show compassion and give space to ourselves and the people we love. This helps us go through all the hard things we face through our lives. Sending all of you all the love. Thank you for putting this out into the universe✨
This was great. Love how authentic this couple is. The pushing away thinking if it's meant to be they'll be back is actually a trauma response. The push pull.
All these people are guilty of dessimating the indigenous American societies… do not celebrate thanksgiving tommorrow. Otherwise you are part of the problem. Or better yet, if you live in the Americas, you should leave now and return the Americas to the few indigenous people left.
I am thankful for your candor & your podcast. So much of your experience & these conversations resonates with me. It echoes and explains my own personal experiences with my relationships with family, friends, and my own internal dialogs. I know some of these topics & conversations are taxing but they've made all the difference to me thank you both for the work it's difficult but at least for this one human it's made an impact.
This was such an excellent and honest interview. To everyone involved, may you have the greatest freedom to be yourself. Thank you for sharing yourself in such a vulnerable way.
I listen to this while I sew. I use old fashioned headphones so it doesn't interfere with whatever my husband is doing (he is a composer and writer). At 1:13:00 I laugh out very loud and he says, from the other room, "What is so funny?" and I have to tell him how much the phrase, "everyone is thinking about me all the time!" reminds of someone I know and love! Jonathan is right; it doesn't really have to do with being in the industry at a young age (my guy is an educator of 40+ years; not in show business) but I do believe much of it has to do with "creatives." Depression, anxiety, and many of the other issues have more to do with a creative brain than many people admit. I have spoken to spouses of creatives and we are generally the pragmatic, practical, even keeled ones in the relationship that have to talk our partners down when things get tense. It's a tricky job; but someone has to do it! My husband's first two wives didn't get it. For the last 31 years, I have been that stability for him so he has a safe space to create. Maybe I could benefit from therapy!
Thanks so much for sharing, Angie!! We could all indeed benefit from therapy - even the most "normal" and "well-adjusted" of us. 😉 Thanks so much for watching!!!
Thank you for this, I found it so relatable! Mayim & Jonathan, thank you for so consistently providing such wonderful and illuminating content. Raven & Miranda, thank you for your genuine honesty, just an incredible conversation to hear.
Mayim, I have watched, loved and benefited from about 15 of your episodes. (New subscriber. I've watched you grow up. I love your work. I love your intellect.) Finding your program has been A HUGE blessing!!! I have especially loved the conversations with Jackson Galaxy, David Archuleta, Jewel and Leslie Jordan. I'm in my 50s, I have teenage kids, and I'm dealing with my own mental health issues. Your conversations always have a valuable, therapeutic element. At 1:09 when you were discussing anger, it clicked with me and I started to cry. I'm sure my therapist will enjoy witnessing the next step of my growth experience. Yes, the entertainment factor is huge, but the mental health topics you weave into your interviews are profound, valuable and EXTREMELY appreciated!! Thank you!!💛💛💛
Wow, thanks very much for the lovely feedback, Penelope!!! Very glad the podcast is resonating with you so much so far! We highly recommend checking out our recent episode with Dr. Gabor Maté - incredibly enlightening stuff! Sending you all the strength in your journey, and always remember you're not alone. We're very happy to have you here!
@@MayimBialik oh yes!! I've already seen that one. It was one of the first I've watched!! I was familiar with his work but hadn't heard such an in depth interview. That was fantastic. In fact, I've gleaned so much from your interviews that I dropped your name/channel numerous times at Thanksgiving dinner. (The bird brain study you referenced when discussing being born queer versus "choosing" to be queer was a big hit.)
-- I loved this and related to a lot of what was discussed, especially what Miranda talked about with people pleasing. I hope to see another video with Raven and Miranda.
This was interesting…I lost my fascination with celebrities in my twenties. So now, to me, they’re just people like everyone else. But there are things I never thought about kids growing up in the acting business. I, personally, do not envy fame. I would never want to be famous. I love peace and privacy too much. There are pros that go with fame, as well as cons. But, for me, the cons outweigh the pros. And hearing this discussion just made me feel that even more. Psychologically, it’s interesting to hear things from this perspective…
Drinking my coffee, listening to this podcast, and playing MW2. I'm having a Great day. Thanks for being a part of it. Everyone's articulations of their own unique experiences is insightful, intriguing and appreciated. As a queer identifying person I related to this one very much.
It’s hearbreaking how Raven explains how it was her last sexual experience with a guy. It makes me think how hard can be for a teenager, dealing with all the turmoils that stage of growing implies, then adding the doubts about own sexuality and learning you maybe are “different” of many of those pals around you. The mom in me wants to hug, to comfort, to accompany, to pat their backs as these kids surf their own growing and outing. It makes me thing too how our first world society, even if our mouths’re full of equality, actually is not. And how terrible it is for people living in countries where all human rights are dennied and homosexuality prosecuted as Qatar, but where so hypocritically the FIFA World ⚽️ Championship is taking place while our eyes are conveniently blind..😢
Yep,but the Europeans, probably your ancestors, killed off and misappropriated the indigenous societies in the Americas, so don’t celebrate Thanksgiving tommorrow. Leave the indigenous brown people of the Middle East alone.
@@OfftoShambala You failed in your shot and your hideous comment. I am not a US citizen, nor live there. In fact I’m an European citizen from a nation without own state historically since nowadays exploided and plundered by one of those who “discovered” that continent. I’m one who doesn’t celebrate genocides as the one perpetrated by those colonizers and whose own right to decide what we want to be as a nation is dennied by the use of police forces beating us because peacefully voting. No, dear. You failed addressing that comment to one as me with a long vital journey in the defense of Human Rights. All Human Rights. Period.
45:45 Thsnk you SO MUCH Raven for speaking to Shadow-work, the mental split we make in order to survive, and understanding your (gay) higher-self protected you. This speaks to my journey as well! I am 47 years old, and am just dating a woman who together we are having these conversations. It is still not easy for me. I still wobble on my words, but she is patient, listens, gives feed back, dives deep with me, accepts, and participates. She shows me how SUPER blessed I am to have done the work thus far to be at a place to be practicing what I have learned with another human being who holds safe space for me to do so, and move forth with grace on the same pages. Miranda, I certainly relate with you regatding therapy, etc. And I appreciate Jonathan for bringing it around about those who require space to figure things out. The person I am seeing now, it is still new and early on, and she and I have not discussed it yet but likely will one day - I had a solid week of freaking out after our first date. Because a part of me KNOWS it is real, and I am having to face what to do with that. Of course, that same part of self first points out all the things that may be flags, etc. So, I objectively looked at all of it, and handled it all within myself as healthily and discreetly as possible. Thank you so much, Mayim, and all of you, for this podcast! Someone I was seeing in 2019 broke things off with me because I expressed anger. In no unhealthy way, mind you. But the fact I even had anger. He tried to act above it, because rather than integrate his 'past' "angry self," he was separating himself from that and putting it in his shadow. Of course, now I can clearly see the blessing in that it didn't work out. But that was so difficult that I am just now dating again (2022.) Drawers Full of Pens 11/20/22 There used to be a me Who did not know how to say things Except to write them in poetry, And I read Andrea Gibson - A soul so full of stars, And am reminded - so am I. I remember the girl who thought If I could be loving and poetic enough, If I could get my mother to see God in my eyes, on my face, The light of Grace in my hair And aura, That surely she would know I too was love, Even while gay. I remember the time she stood for me between my step-dad and I While I cussed him for making me Throw away all my art In that one big move As he knew the galaxy inside me And did all he could At every turn To keep me ultra-contained and small. I remember the girl Scared and for the first time ever In her consistently over-achieving life Failing at school As at home the same man Threw her mother down a hallway After having smashed her Susan Sarandon face Into the stoic corner Of a glass-topped coffee table, And my fear was so severe I could not even put it into poetry - only into declining grades. I remember how years before that How before him My mother and grandmother Fought similarly, Loudly, Physically, Needing to control? Dominate? The Dysfunction Junction Luncheon. While I do not know The Big C Personally, We all carry these vast 'nesses inside us In the form of these things we call memories. It wasn't until Somewhere around 2018 (Time is a particularly sliding scale on this extremely rewired mind) when I realized Hey My friend is crying And I've reached out to Embrace her Without a Second thought As to how She may turn into A wolf And devour me Entirely As I fed her My presence, existence & consciousness My youth taught me the dangers of CHAOS Attracted me to it like R-Rated movies I could not enjoy, Only stare at in disbelief And not understand. I don't write as much anymore. I practice directness as much as I can Yet, from time-to-time I get itchy pens And itchy hands.
"I will take everyone's upset over mine, cause my goal is to fix it because then we move on." Let me tell you this is 100% ME. I have such a hard time expressing myself when i'm angry or upset cause I don't want to bother/be a burden. In contrast I act like I can take it all from other people and I want to make emends as soon as possible. Also, when Raven said "what's my issue? don't worry I fix it myself" that really resonated with me since I have an unhealthy sense of responsibility. It can be so exhausting at times.
Wow this episode was fantastic I love this episode and this conversation is soooo good I need more I didn’t want this to end. They are amazing together I feel their love. Raven is still hilarious and very eloquent. Can we get part 2.
Wow! Raven-Symoné looks great! On top of noticing how awesome Raven looks-I had no idea Mayim had a TH-cam channel! Very cool! The gold one finds while surfing TH-cam at 3am in the morning…
This is a great podcast. I listened to this one third morning (my first) and then the one with Jewel. They are therapy sessions unto themselves. I look forward to more episodes.
I love this. My kids grew up watching, that's so Raven. I always loved her character she was funny and quirky. Good wholesome show. I also watch her on other shows, great actress. Agreed labels are ridiculous. At the end of the day, we are all every. We are all connected. That it. Stop with all the judgments. Let people live their best life. 🙏 I love this show. Keep up the great work.
Mayim, you ate amazing. I love watching your podcasts. We as women all are more powerful together. I really enjoy you and your partner keeping each other grounded. You two are adorable. It's good to see you so happy. It's easy to see how genuine you are.
Wow I'm so happy that raven and her wife are on the podcast I have been a fan of her for years love her in that's so raven zenon and in blackish 🏳️🌈🌈❤❤❤🥰
I love mayims podcasts, she is very insightful and kind with respectful questions. I do love raven's career, not hyper sexualized, respectful and amazing. I love how these two behave with each other.
I’ll never understand why the need to explain a dang thing to anyone about who you love or why ? I am so glad you’re discussing this because many people even progressive and liberal minded folk have difficulty understanding that if it ain’t between your legs it ain’t your business PERIOD THE END!
Always liked Raven, the actress, loved the person ♥️. The conversation got real, and I was able to relate. Thank you Mayim and Jonathan. Awesome service
“THAT’S A LESBIAN THING!” - BIALIK, Mayim. I lost count of how many times I came back to hear this part and I laugh every single time . It’s the calling us out for me 🤡💀
As a fan, I've watched countless Raven Symone interviews, and this is the most real she has ever been. Mayim really brought out the best in her!
Also her wife I’m a Stan now how she told Raven her party wasn’t that big of a deal 😂
It’s usually very frustrating to watch an interview with her because she’s never open or honest or real
@@MrNsb93 So true. I always feel for anyone who has to interview Raven because she seems angry and doesn't open up. I almost feel like she still wants to be interviewed like she was when she was a kid because that is the only way she knows how to be.
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Can't think of a more perfect way to start my morning than with Mayim and Jonathan in my ears WITH RAVEN AND HER WIFE!!!! 🥰🥰🥰
What a beautiful segment. I think Mayim & Raven are about to become BFFs & that will be amazing for both of them. The recognition of the issues they struggle with that are unique to child actors is one factor, but I think this will allow their partners more insight, too.
Yet another wonderful episode - thank you so much for sharing!
The flow and connections between you all was great! So so authentic and honest.
When we’ll learn about not-labelling & fluidity? I was a kind of tomboy growig up. Playing with my bro & his friend soccer & trains. I use actually dress daily in a way most people would describe as “masculine” (blazers, trousers, oxford shirts & shoes) & barely wear skirts & stockings (so uncomfy)..I was always conscious & clear from my teens of what my own sexuality was liking men & married the most amazing (in all senses) one. We’re parents & grandparents. But I’m sure lots of people think of me at first sight quite different from who I really am. Again, stupid labels.. Another FABULOUS episode. AGAIN. And counting…
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That was a beautiful and transparent testimony. Thank you for that.
Hi. Dealing with fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome, I understand its not easy having a chronic illness. As you said you have good and bad days. On a good day enjoy it as much as you can with your family and on bad days deal with it as best as your body and mind allows. One day at a time.
I love the candor and transparency of your episodes and enjoyed the banter and down to earth-ness of this episode. You and Raven-Symone have always been "there is NO box" type of people. Keep flow'n
Thanks so much for the lovely note, Já!! Raven is a true gem. 🧠🫶
@Mayim Bialik My pleasure Dr. Bialik! I am totally fan girlin' right now! 😱 You're amazin' - the 90's was everything! Peace ✌🏽 Love ❤️ and Light 🕯to you and Jonathan!
One of my favorite episodes of all time! I finally understand a little about what it means to grow up in "the industry" and the effect it has on development. I also loved watching two couples have real conversations about their relationships and laugh as we relate to the similarities in our experiences. Keep up the good work, please!
I was so happy for Raven when she took her break. I know she enjoys her work, but I hope she finds a way to balance home/private life with public/work life. Take those breaks, Raven!!!
Loved this so much! When Mayim and Raven spoke about expressing (or rather not expressing!) anger, I cried because that's exactly how I am. I can say I'm disappointed or just keep bottling until I feel complete rage... But I can't get that out either because I fear the monster will never go back in the cage...
For many years I was forced to keep my rage hidden to please my family because of that I basically turned my rage on myself by turning to self harming
I really loved this episode so much!
It felt so calm and open with regards to the exchanges between all 4 parties.
It was really beautiful to hear Raven talk about her experiences, and the two of them together, you can just tell that they're truly content.
Thank you Mayim and Jonathan, this was so special, keep up the amazing work you do!
Big shout out all the way from South Africa, where mental health care isn't really frowned upon or seen as bad or weird but it's still something people don't really discuss that much or are too shy to seek out.
My mom & I follow your episodes religiously and we love getting together and talking about them afterwards and the great thing about it is every episode brings something to the table. No matter who the guest is, there is something universal or relatable in each and every one. So thank you!
2 of my favorite child stars having a conversation?? 🤯🤯🤯 Love you both! Raven-Symone, loved her since she stepped foot on the Cosby Show, you brought a light there cuz Rudy was getting older, they needed more young energy! You were phenomenal and still are! Raven's wife, I can see why they are together, even though, I still don't get how you never saw ANY of her shows 👀🤣, that must be a running joke in the house 🤣🤣🤣 Mayim, as always, great episode! As a Black girl growing up, people thought I was weird because I loved Blossom and Beaches, I was so excited to see you in Beaches, all of you are so awesome! And I love how Jonathan broke all that down, their break up story 💪🏾
I totally love the movie beaches since I was a kid 😘
Thank you so much for having Raven on this episode today. I absolutely love her on ''That's so Raven'' and ''Raven's Home". Keep up the great work on this podcast Mayim!
Just don’t celebrate thanksgiving tommorrow… it’s all about the destruction of the native Americans. According to mayim. Don’t be a hypocrite and a suppressor of indigenous people.
Best podcast yet! Bring Raven and Miranda back for another conversation. Thanks for all the info and interactions and perspectives you and Jonathan share.
The anger convo in this is so 100% me and I realized my control issues are coming from me avoiding the disappointment and anger when people “fail me”.
Really love raven and that’s what brought me here. Have since binge watched the podcast and just want to say I love it. Keep them coming, you always have such amazing guests.
OMG I'm on the verg of tears. This was amazing and I needed to hear this today. I'm not famous but can so relate to so much of this. Thank you all for sharing your lives with us.
So glad this one resonated with you, Virgil, and thanks so much for watching!! 🧠🫶
Raven has gorgeous skin and she looks so much healthier than she did when she was on The View. I can’t imagine what she’s lived through being famous since 3 years old and never having anonymity.
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I had no idea this turned into a group therapy session. LOL😅 this session was actually really interesting to watch their interaction.
I know about the disconnection from anger. My therapist asked me what anger looked like to me. I said, "out of control". Feelings in general, I think through. My childhood was just not safe to express my emotions. Thanks to my Parentification to care for my sibling and mother.
This is one of the best interviews/podcasts I’ve ever watched.
"THAT'S HIM! THAT'S YOU! *repeats it to Johnathan as if he couldn't hear her* HE WILL SUCK THE JOY OUT OF ROOM!" This was one of the best discussions on this channel! The natural chemistry and comradery is instant and there was such great laughs talking about pain. When in comes to dynamics, it is so important that each person can take a moment to laugh at how ridiculous each of us is.
What a lovely couple. Raven has always had that personality that jumped through the camera. It's really beautiful to see the way she looks at her wife and how beautifully relaxed she is now. ❤️
What a fantastic conversation. As if I couldn’t love Raven anymore than I already do! ❤
I appreciate the conversation about labels. I recently had a similar conversation with a few coworkers. Someone said “goodnight ladies” as they were leaving. One of my coworkers turned to myself & the other person in the room and said “but no one in the room is a lady,” then realized they don’t know how I identify and asked how I identify. It was the first time I’ve given myself a label as not always identifying as a woman & didn’t like feeling like I needed to give myself a label.
I hate that we live in a world where everyone and everything needs a label. I just want to be who I am without a specific label to meet everyone else’s expectations of what they think I should be because of that label.
It is so simple to avoid this altogether by just not saying “Goodnight, ladies.” There are other, and easy, ways to address each other: by name, ideally, but even “you two.” I don’t know. I’m just spitballing. But it’s an interesting conversation.
I’m sorry you had to go through that. I believe gender/sexuality is a spectrum and its not always black and white , but I also see how labels can be important for some people (like for me,personally) but again, I understand not wanting to be labeled or even changing how you label yourself throughout your life. I guess most of us are just trying to figure ourselves out.
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So sorry to hear that Kristin. As I wrote here, when we’ll learn about not-labelling? I was a kind of tomboy growig up. Even had “Raulito” as a surname by the main character of an Argentina’s film ab a boyish girl. I dress daily in a way most people would describe as “masculine” as adult. Never had doubts of my sexuality. I like men. Married the most amazing one. Still long-term marriage being parents and grandparents. But I’m sure that most people think of me at first sight quite different as who I really am. Again, stupid labels…Biggest hug! 🫂xx
Or, just don’t saying anything to anyone. This current society is where up is down and down is up. Idiotic pronoun usage. Made up words to fit a narrative. The only proper response to the question “What are your pronouns?” is to reject the premise and refuse to answer.
Thanks for this. I’ve been a Raven fan forever. So great to hear she’s happy healthy fulfilled person.
She's one smart and relatable cookie. Thanks so much for watching, Ellen!!
I LOVE RAVEN 💖 she is a beautiful soul!! I also grew up with Blossom and LOVED that show as well thank you for that trip down memory lane 🥰 I am thankful for all your hard work and for you inspiring all women from all walks of life! You are an amazing person Ms Mayim and I'm grateful thank you 🥰 much respect love and light to you my friend ❤️
I'm absolutely in love with this interview. This has hands down is becoming a favorite TH-cam channel
Oh my gosh I love them! They are the couple friend everyone wants/needs. I loved their banter and you can see they really enjoy each other. I loved it. Thank you for interviewing them!
Please do another one with them! This was eye opening.
This was an EXCELLENT exchange with all parties involved. RAVEN you are a terrific spokes person for the LGBTQ community. Mayim loved your interview exchange with Miranda and Raven. Thanks ever so much.
Born and raised in Los Angeles baby. So proud.
This was so beautiful and cathartic and seeing Raven be herself and speak so honestly and be vulnerable was such a beautiful reflection! Thank you, Mayim for hosting what is one of my TOP PODCASTS!
Disney+ just became available in my country, so I'm on a That's So Raven binge
Then Raven is a guest on this podcast. Life is good
"the terms help until they dont" 100%. This was just such a great conversation. I wish I had such articulate, self aware, and intelligent friends like this to just banter with all day. Thank you for all your sharings. Mayim, this is my 4th episode today - Im hooked! You're fantastic.
30 seconds in .. hearing Mayim say “that’s a lesbian thing” 🤣 and I’m already grinning 😁 . I love this podcast, so freaking much❣️
I feel like I'm such a mixture of all 4 people in this podcast it's wild.
How I cope with things, people pleasing, reading people's emotions at all times, ignoring my own emotions to fix others and deal with my issues by myself, self comfort. I definitely needed to hear all of these things.
Also their break-up and the breakdown of that. I had something similar happen with someone. And when it happened I knew we would be in each other's lives again and it happened when things were starting to get real. There is so much love there and fear was getting in the way at that time.
It's so important to have grace, show compassion and give space to ourselves and the people we love. This helps us go through all the hard things we face through our lives.
Sending all of you all the love. Thank you for putting this out into the universe✨
This was great. Love how authentic this couple is. The pushing away thinking if it's meant to be they'll be back is actually a trauma response. The push pull.
All these people are guilty of dessimating the indigenous American societies… do not celebrate thanksgiving tommorrow. Otherwise you are part of the problem. Or better yet, if you live in the Americas, you should leave now and return the Americas to the few indigenous people left.
I am thankful for your candor & your podcast. So much of your experience & these conversations resonates with me. It echoes and explains my own personal experiences with my relationships with family, friends, and my own internal dialogs. I know some of these topics & conversations are taxing but they've made all the difference to me thank you both for the work it's difficult but at least for this one human it's made an impact.
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Pretty good interview here and Raven looks youthful and fresh faced here! 🙌🏾
Absolutely loved this episode. Seamed very genuine all the way around. Made me really think. Thank you to all four of you.
This was such an excellent and honest interview. To everyone involved, may you have the greatest freedom to be yourself. Thank you for sharing yourself in such a vulnerable way.
I listen to this while I sew. I use old fashioned headphones so it doesn't interfere with whatever my husband is doing (he is a composer and writer). At 1:13:00 I laugh out very loud and he says, from the other room, "What is so funny?" and I have to tell him how much the phrase, "everyone is thinking about me all the time!" reminds of someone I know and love! Jonathan is right; it doesn't really have to do with being in the industry at a young age (my guy is an educator of 40+ years; not in show business) but I do believe much of it has to do with "creatives." Depression, anxiety, and many of the other issues have more to do with a creative brain than many people admit. I have spoken to spouses of creatives and we are generally the pragmatic, practical, even keeled ones in the relationship that have to talk our partners down when things get tense. It's a tricky job; but someone has to do it! My husband's first two wives didn't get it. For the last 31 years, I have been that stability for him so he has a safe space to create. Maybe I could benefit from therapy!
Thanks so much for sharing, Angie!! We could all indeed benefit from therapy - even the most "normal" and "well-adjusted" of us. 😉 Thanks so much for watching!!!
Been watching that gorgeous Raven since she was just a Lil peanut on Cosby and have loved her since. Love love love this episode!
Can we have a #2? I enjoyed this so much.
Thank you for this, I found it so relatable! Mayim & Jonathan, thank you for so consistently providing such wonderful and illuminating content. Raven & Miranda, thank you for your genuine honesty, just an incredible conversation to hear.
Thanks so much for watching, Sasha!!! So glad you enjoyed this one. 🧠🫶
Now I can't decide which is my favorite episode, Jewell, or this one. SO much fun.
Oof, that's a tough dilemma to have!! Very glad you're enjoying the episodes as of late, Peter. Thanks so much for watching!!
2 years of therapy didn’t tell me about myself as much as half an our of this video. 💛💛💛💛💛
Just kidding my therapy changed my life but this video is amazing.
By far my favorite interview! I hope you guys do it again!
I would love to see you and Jodie Sweetin talk too!
Just got done watching the episode with Jodie Sweetin, and it's interesting how this comments became a reality.
Mayim, I have watched, loved and benefited from about 15 of your episodes. (New subscriber. I've watched you grow up. I love your work. I love your intellect.) Finding your program has been A HUGE blessing!!! I have especially loved the conversations with Jackson Galaxy, David Archuleta, Jewel and Leslie Jordan. I'm in my 50s, I have teenage kids, and I'm dealing with my own mental health issues. Your conversations always have a valuable, therapeutic element. At 1:09 when you were discussing anger, it clicked with me and I started to cry. I'm sure my therapist will enjoy witnessing the next step of my growth experience.
Yes, the entertainment factor is huge, but the mental health topics you weave into your interviews are profound, valuable and EXTREMELY appreciated!! Thank you!!💛💛💛
Wow, thanks very much for the lovely feedback, Penelope!!! Very glad the podcast is resonating with you so much so far! We highly recommend checking out our recent episode with Dr. Gabor Maté - incredibly enlightening stuff! Sending you all the strength in your journey, and always remember you're not alone. We're very happy to have you here!
@@MayimBialik oh yes!! I've already seen that one. It was one of the first I've watched!! I was familiar with his work but hadn't heard such an in depth interview. That was fantastic.
In fact, I've gleaned so much from your interviews that I dropped your name/channel numerous times at Thanksgiving dinner. (The bird brain study you referenced when discussing being born queer versus "choosing" to be queer was a big hit.)
-- I loved this and related to a lot of what was discussed, especially what Miranda talked about with people pleasing. I hope to see another video with Raven and Miranda.
Yessss, the people pleasing is so insidious D;
I don’t know how there weren’t any tears! This was so awesome!
This was interesting…I lost my fascination with celebrities in my twenties. So now, to me, they’re just people like everyone else. But there are things I never thought about kids growing up in the acting business. I, personally, do not envy fame. I would never want to be famous. I love peace and privacy too much. There are pros that go with fame, as well as cons. But, for me, the cons outweigh the pros. And hearing this discussion just made me feel that even more. Psychologically, it’s interesting to hear things from this perspective…
Drinking my coffee, listening to this podcast, and playing MW2. I'm having a Great day. Thanks for being a part of it. Everyone's articulations of their own unique experiences is insightful, intriguing and appreciated. As a queer identifying person I related to this one very much.
That sounds like an ideal day, Sadie, and thanks so much for letting us accompany you on it!! 🧠🫶
Really enjoyed the show - the gold finger polish is completely hypnotic.
It’s hearbreaking how Raven explains how it was her last sexual experience with a guy. It makes me think how hard can be for a teenager, dealing with all the turmoils that stage of growing implies, then adding the doubts about own sexuality and learning you maybe are “different” of many of those pals around you. The mom in me wants to hug, to comfort, to accompany, to pat their backs as these kids surf their own growing and outing. It makes me thing too how our first world society, even if our mouths’re full of equality, actually is not. And how terrible it is for people living in countries where all human rights are dennied and homosexuality prosecuted as Qatar, but where so hypocritically the FIFA World ⚽️ Championship is taking place while our eyes are conveniently blind..😢
Yep,but the Europeans, probably your ancestors, killed off and misappropriated the indigenous societies in the Americas, so don’t celebrate Thanksgiving tommorrow. Leave the indigenous brown people of the Middle East alone.
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@@OfftoShambala You failed in your shot and your hideous comment. I am not a US citizen, nor live there. In fact I’m an European citizen from a nation without own state historically since nowadays exploided and plundered by one of those who “discovered” that continent. I’m one who doesn’t celebrate genocides as the one perpetrated by those colonizers and whose own right to decide what we want to be as a nation is dennied by the use of police forces beating us because peacefully voting. No, dear. You failed addressing that comment to one as me with a long vital journey in the defense of Human Rights. All Human Rights. Period.
I'd love to hear more on the "Shadow Therapy" and it's process. This was awesome! ❤
Thank You for this because a lot of this applies to this generation of people. Not only for children or people of the industry.
45:45 Thsnk you SO MUCH Raven for speaking to Shadow-work, the mental split we make in order to survive, and understanding your (gay) higher-self protected you. This speaks to my journey as well! I am 47 years old, and am just dating a woman who together we are having these conversations. It is still not easy for me. I still wobble on my words, but she is patient, listens, gives feed back, dives deep with me, accepts, and participates. She shows me how SUPER blessed I am to have done the work thus far to be at a place to be practicing what I have learned with another human being who holds safe space for me to do so, and move forth with grace on the same pages.
Miranda, I certainly relate with you regatding therapy, etc. And I appreciate Jonathan for bringing it around about those who require space to figure things out. The person I am seeing now, it is still new and early on, and she and I have not discussed it yet but likely will one day - I had a solid week of freaking out after our first date. Because a part of me KNOWS it is real, and I am having to face what to do with that. Of course, that same part of self first points out all the things that may be flags, etc. So, I objectively looked at all of it, and handled it all within myself as healthily and discreetly as possible.
Thank you so much, Mayim, and all of you, for this podcast!
Someone I was seeing in 2019 broke things off with me because I expressed anger. In no unhealthy way, mind you. But the fact I even had anger. He tried to act above it, because rather than integrate his 'past' "angry self," he was separating himself from that and putting it in his shadow. Of course, now I can clearly see the blessing in that it didn't work out. But that was so difficult that I am just now dating again (2022.)
Drawers Full of Pens
11/20/22
There used to be a me
Who did not know how to say things
Except to write them in poetry,
And I read Andrea Gibson -
A soul so full of stars,
And am reminded - so am I.
I remember the girl who thought
If I could be loving and poetic enough,
If I could get my mother to see
God in my eyes, on my face,
The light of Grace in my hair
And aura,
That surely she would know
I too was love,
Even while gay.
I remember the time she stood
for me between my step-dad and I
While I cussed him for making me
Throw away all my art
In that one big move
As he knew the galaxy inside me
And did all he could
At every turn
To keep me ultra-contained and
small.
I remember the girl
Scared and for the first time ever
In her consistently over-achieving life
Failing at school
As at home the same man
Threw her mother down a hallway
After having smashed her
Susan Sarandon face
Into the stoic corner
Of a glass-topped coffee table,
And my fear was so severe
I could not even put it into poetry -
only into declining grades.
I remember how years before that
How before him
My mother and grandmother
Fought similarly,
Loudly,
Physically,
Needing to control?
Dominate?
The Dysfunction Junction Luncheon.
While I do not know
The Big C
Personally,
We all carry these vast 'nesses inside us
In the form of these things we call
memories.
It wasn't until
Somewhere around 2018
(Time is a particularly sliding scale
on this extremely rewired mind)
when I realized
Hey
My friend is crying
And I've reached out to
Embrace her
Without a
Second thought
As to how
She may turn into
A wolf
And devour me
Entirely
As I fed her
My presence, existence
& consciousness
My youth taught me the dangers of
CHAOS
Attracted me to it like
R-Rated movies
I could not enjoy,
Only stare at in disbelief
And not understand.
I don't write as much anymore.
I practice directness as much as I can
Yet, from time-to-time
I get itchy pens
And itchy hands.
The harmony on ✨ It's a Lesbian thing ✨ perfect 🤌🤌
The Moving On Down song was hilarious. Great interview. Raven looks great and sounds like she’s truly matured. Very nice.
What a lovely interview!!! Really enjoyed the realness and maturity of all the people involved.
One of my favorite podcasts. Thank you to everyone. ❤
Great interview! I love this channel, Mayim. Glad to hear you are so happy Raven
"I will take everyone's upset over mine, cause my goal is to fix it because then we move on."
Let me tell you this is 100% ME. I have such a hard time expressing myself when i'm angry or upset cause I don't want to bother/be a burden. In contrast I act like I can take it all from other people and I want to make emends as soon as possible. Also, when Raven said "what's my issue? don't worry I fix it myself" that really resonated with me since I have an unhealthy sense of responsibility. It can be so exhausting at times.
Also thank you for another great one guys! As usual it was a pleasure to watch. 💚💛
Yes, yes, yes. Totally all of this! 🫂
Wow this episode was fantastic I love this episode and this conversation is soooo good I need more I didn’t want this to end. They are amazing together I feel their love. Raven is still hilarious and very eloquent. Can we get part 2.
I love them so much! Love this interview! I’ve been a huge fan of Raven forever! ❤❤❤
Wow! Raven-Symoné looks great! On top of noticing how awesome Raven looks-I had no idea Mayim had a TH-cam channel! Very cool! The gold one finds while surfing TH-cam at 3am in the morning…
An amazing conversation. Love it!!!
Thank you
This episode was a total delight! Wonderful content from all four of you. Thank you Mayim!
This way wonderful i Hope to see a Part 2.
Super articulate, I loved this one!!
This was superb!! Love the talk...🗣
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This was so good! I loved it! What a gripping conversation!
Absolutely loved this episode! What a fun ride!
This is a great podcast. I listened to this one third morning (my first) and then the one with Jewel. They are therapy sessions unto themselves. I look forward to more episodes.
I love the name of her podcast! :)
I love this. My kids grew up watching, that's so Raven. I always loved her character she was funny and quirky. Good wholesome show. I also watch her on other shows, great actress. Agreed labels are ridiculous. At the end of the day, we are all every. We are all connected. That it. Stop with all the judgments. Let people live their best life. 🙏 I love this show. Keep up the great work.
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Mayim, you ate amazing. I love watching your podcasts. We as women all are more powerful together. I really enjoy you and your partner keeping each other grounded. You two are adorable. It's good to see you so happy. It's easy to see how genuine you are.
Wow I'm so happy that raven and her wife are on the podcast I have been a fan of her for years love her in that's so raven zenon and in blackish 🏳️🌈🌈❤❤❤🥰
Wow!! I truly enjoyed this interview.. so real..
I haven’t started the episode yet but I already know I’m going to LOVE this episode!!!
Hope you enjoy this one, Spacey!!
I love mayims podcasts, she is very insightful and kind with respectful questions. I do love raven's career, not hyper sexualized, respectful and amazing. I love how these two behave with each other.
Thank You for another great one!🙂
How exciting! Mayim and Raven. I love you since I was a child
I’ll never understand why the need to explain a dang thing to anyone about who you love or why ? I am so glad you’re discussing this because many people even progressive and liberal minded folk have difficulty understanding that if it ain’t between your legs it ain’t your business PERIOD THE END!
Always liked Raven, the actress, loved the person ♥️. The conversation got real, and I was able to relate. Thank you Mayim and Jonathan. Awesome service
Amazing podcast as always x
The very thing you are afraid of, is the very thing that will set you free! This Breakdown is one of my favorites! 🔥🔥❤️🤟🏼😊
“THAT’S A LESBIAN THING!” - BIALIK, Mayim.
I lost count of how many times I came back to hear this part and I laugh every single time . It’s the calling us out for me 🤡💀
Great episode!!! Love that Raven and her partner were so open and honest!❤❤❤
I really enjoyed this! Love Raven and I am so happy for this lovely couple.
Damn... Jonathan's smart and insightful!!
Wow, what an episode!✨️
Wait I just found out my favorite actress hosts her own podcast. I need a moment. 🥺🥺❤
what a great way to start the day ❤
I keep hearing the msg that having a strong sense of self really is a crucial piece of healthy minds and thus reality
I love this podcast. But there are too many ads.
Awesome Breakdown Mayim 🤍
Excellent episode!