Good list but i think mason should have been higher because the only reason rocky did good is because mason didnt take if seriously and he didnt train or have any conditioning also at the end of rocky 6/rocky balboa it shows mason earning the respect of the boxing world and not seen as a paper champion
I don’t think Mason was a paper champion, he just didn’t have any proper competition as boxing was seen as a dying sport in Rocky 6. He was a victim of his own time
Ikr why would bro pick Apollo as number 1 like I know he was good in 1 and 2 but in 4 bro died to drago and rocky in the other hand literally won against drago and most of the other boxers so I agree with you rocky is number 1
We can’t define a whole career on one loss when he was over 5 years past his prime. That’s like saying Mason Dixon is the best because he beat a retired Rocky.
@@theoverallnerds Dude. Rocky as a noob defeated Prime Apollo almost twice. Then he was trained by Apollo and Duke to defeat Clubber. And he even got much better than that and defeated a Steroid Enhanced Ivan Drago. 1. Rocky 2. Drago 3. Apollo
14:30 The secret third fight isn't really fair since we don't know anything about it, and originally they shot it for Rocky iv where neither one of them win. But overall Apollo was the more skilled boxer but Rocky was a better overall fighter, like in a street fight Rocky would definitely win
I found this Rocky franchise Best Pugilist pound for pound (Pun intended)of all time quite admirable and probably would've totally agreed with it 👀 But unfortunately I don't understand how you decide to either intentionally omit or pretend it doesn't matter, and that's the egregious misconduct orchestrated by #3 Ivan Drago... Did you honestly think the fact he was clearly using PED"s, STEROIDS to be more specific wouldn't or shouldn't play some factor in his ranking equation ⁉️We truly don't know how long he'd been using the JUICE from his introduction into the franchise so you'll have to presume it was throughout his entire career. Based on that fact alone I'm not sure how to rank him and moreover if he'd best anyone else on this list maybe except Tommy Morrison 🤕...💯FACTS😎
@@s0twin the only reason I’d say no is due to his gas tank. He barely made it to round 2 with Rocky. Would he be able to bulldoze the ones above him I don’t think so…
Realistically Apollo Creed was the most skilled fighter of the series. Creed downfall is what happens too Rocky in Rocky 3. He lost that hunger and became cocky.
Apollo number 1 is the right choice imo. In his prime he would’ve beaten everyone on this list. If it wasn’t for Apollo Rocky would never have got to the level he got too. It was his training with Apollo in 3 that transformed Rocky from a brawler to a boxer puncher who carried serious power and combined that with his granite chin. Apollo is the goat and showed Rocky the way a champion should always carry themselves.
1. Apollo creed 2. Ivan drago 3. Rocky balboa 4. Adonis creed 5. Damien Anderson 6. Victor drago 7. Tommy gun 8. Clubber lang 9. Ricky conlan 10. Mason Dixon
@@theoverallnerds he literally beats Apollo to death and completely overpowered rocky most of the fight. He lost because he wanted to knock him out the same reason Apollo lost. They’re both superior fighters. Rocky just can take a hit and keep going.
@@taylorpack7705 I don’t think Drago lost because he wanted to knock Rocky out, he simply just didn’t have enough to beat Rocky. Also the ability to be hit and keep going only adds to a fighters credentials.
Apollo CREED is number 1 because Rocky said he was the best-but he was on the decline when Rocky thought him Apollo showed his class but only glimpses of his skill and brilliance against Drago but he was well past his best - Rocky said Rocky was the best Sun and light: Apollo was also known as Phoebus in Roman literature, which means "sun even his name is a God
Pienso que Drago les gana a todos porque tenia fuerza sobrehumana, Rocky es guion no puede perder y Apollo podria ser como dices pero Drago con una pegada los destrozaba mental y fisicamente.
I agree that Apollo is overall the best boxer in the franchise because he has by far the most consistent career and maintained his peak level of skill for the longest time, whereas Rocky would often peak and valley and need to get back into shape. But at his peak, during the fight with Drago, Rocky was better than anyone ever was or ever will be. To use a more extreme example, Whitey Ford was the Yankees best pitcher in the 50s and 60s, but he never threw a no-hitter. Don Larsen was a mediocre pitcher at best who had the best day in pitching history, throwing a perfect game during the 1956 World Series. For 1 day Larsen was better than Ford could ever hope to be, though Ford is an infinitely pitcher in every conceivable way. The differences between Rocky and Apollo are nowhere near as great, but it illustrates the difference between temporary peak performance and career performance.
Two guys fight in a boxing match. Fighter A and fighter B. Fighter A absolutely destroys fighter B in under two rounds. Beats him so badly that he dies from his injuries. How can you say the fighter that died is better then the fighter who killed him? Cool video but C'mon man...lol
Because context is everything. It's never as simple as "A beat B." You need to ask "HOW did A win?" and "WHY did B lose?" Apollo lost because he was 5 years out of practice, he severely underestimated Drago and overestimated himself equally severely. The point was that at his peak he would have most likely won since at that point he'd be able to evade Drago's punches.
@@RAMBO-mu2zm clubber is strong but his gas tank is the worse of all fighters. Donny has shown he can take a hit and keep going, if it goes to round 2 it’s game over for clubber.
I've been a huge fan of the rocky franchise, especially the first 4. As much as I love rocky I always knew deep down Apollo was the goat. Like you said Duke begged Apollo to stick and move in the later rounds of their 2nd fight but Apollos pride got in the way. Had he done that rocky would have never beaten as you pointed out a older champion. I would also add that the newer characters that came after rocky 4 is like actual boxing today. You can't convince me that they hold a candle to the older generation boxer. It's like comparing fury, wilder and joshua to Ali, Holmes and Tyson. The best era of boxers was from the 70's and 80's. All divisions had killers in them.
@@theoverallnerds but only one of them came back stronger, faster, and ultimately won more over the course. If we're talking better athletes, Apollo all the way. The best fighter is the one left standing though. That's Rocky.
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Clubber Lang is so scary he gave mickey a heart attack lmao 🤣
You sound like prince charming from shrek??
Give me clubber higher than Adonis come on clubber gave prime rocky a challenge
Prime Rocky was end of rocky 3 and Rocky 4, also Adonis has shown better attributes all around and has a better gas tank.
Thunder lips should be on this list brother
Again a White guy gotta bring up thunderlips.
@@GeorgeFreeman55It was a joke. And about a fictional character. Get a grip!
"The ultimate male, versus the ultimate meatball"
@@cookedit Grow up.
Mr T had Rocky scared and ready to quit...
Good list but i think mason should have been higher because the only reason rocky did good is because mason didnt take if seriously and he didnt train or have any conditioning also at the end of rocky 6/rocky balboa it shows mason earning the respect of the boxing world and not seen as a paper champion
I don’t think Mason was a paper champion, he just didn’t have any proper competition as boxing was seen as a dying sport in Rocky 6. He was a victim of his own time
Sorry but Rocky is Number 1. Apollo Creed even his Prime can only dream to beat Drago
Ikr why would bro pick Apollo as number 1 like I know he was good in 1 and 2 but in 4 bro died to drago and rocky in the other hand literally won against drago and most of the other boxers so I agree with you rocky is number 1
We can’t define a whole career on one loss when he was over 5 years past his prime. That’s like saying Mason Dixon is the best because he beat a retired Rocky.
@@theoverallnerds Dude. Rocky as a noob defeated Prime Apollo almost twice. Then he was trained by Apollo and Duke to defeat Clubber. And he even got much better than that and defeated a Steroid Enhanced Ivan Drago. 1. Rocky 2. Drago 3. Apollo
@@sonyx4500draw once and he won rematch.
@@brianticas7671 Rocky lost first match against Apollo
14:30
The secret third fight isn't really fair since we don't know anything about it, and originally they shot it for Rocky iv where neither one of them win. But overall Apollo was the more skilled boxer but Rocky was a better overall fighter, like in a street fight Rocky would definitely win
guy. I love your expl.
True & also I don't count the Creed films as Canon given their discount reboots of the Rocky Series
Pausing where you said you don't have Rocky at #1.....It better be Apollo.
I definitely agree with the list save for I think Clubber would beat Viktor. But it's close ofc.
I found this Rocky franchise Best Pugilist pound for pound (Pun intended)of all time quite admirable and probably would've totally agreed with it 👀 But unfortunately I don't understand how you decide to either intentionally omit or pretend it doesn't matter, and that's the egregious misconduct orchestrated by #3 Ivan Drago... Did you honestly think the fact he was clearly using PED"s, STEROIDS to be more specific wouldn't or shouldn't play some factor in his ranking equation ⁉️We truly don't know how long he'd been using the JUICE from his introduction into the franchise so you'll have to presume it was throughout his entire career. Based on that fact alone I'm not sure how to rank him and moreover if he'd best anyone else on this list maybe except Tommy Morrison 🤕...💯FACTS😎
Movies: 1,2,3,4,5, RB (yep in that order,don't count Creed movies) Fighters: Morrison (T.Gunn),Lundgren (I.Drago),Tarver(M.Dixon) Weathers (A.Creed),Mr.T(C.Lang)
Rocky 1, Apollo 2, clubber 3, drago 4 (on drugs), Mason 5 (never seen him fight) I stopped watching Rocky after Rocky 5.
Finally someone with some knowledge, that would be excactly my list
Define knowledge in your definition because I dont really sense any "knowledge" in this list.
clubber lang should be higher
@@s0twin the only reason I’d say no is due to his gas tank. He barely made it to round 2 with Rocky. Would he be able to bulldoze the ones above him I don’t think so…
Realistically Apollo Creed was the most skilled fighter of the series. Creed downfall is what happens too Rocky in Rocky 3. He lost that hunger and became cocky.
Drago then Mr T then Rocky for me
5. Michale b Jordan
4. Mr t
3. Drago (prime Apollo beats him cos he’s a master boxer)
2. Apollo
1. Rocky
My number 1 is rocky my number 2 is Adonis member 3 is Apolo number 4 is Ivan drago number 5 is clubber Lang and my number 6 is Tommy Gunn
Channel is too concerned with defending the opinions instead of making them.
Clubber Lang (Mr T ) should be number one 🥊
Creed jr sucks last place period
Clubber lang.... No6......? Get Real
Apollo number 1 is the right choice imo. In his prime he would’ve beaten everyone on this list. If it wasn’t for Apollo Rocky would never have got to the level he got too. It was his training with Apollo in 3 that transformed Rocky from a brawler to a boxer puncher who carried serious power and combined that with his granite chin. Apollo is the goat and showed Rocky the way a champion should always carry themselves.
1. Apollo creed
2. Ivan drago
3. Rocky balboa
4. Adonis creed
5. Damien Anderson
6. Victor drago
7. Tommy gun
8. Clubber lang
9. Ricky conlan
10. Mason Dixon
@@taylorpack7705 kindly explain why Drago is above Rocky?
@@theoverallnerds he literally beats Apollo to death and completely overpowered rocky most of the fight. He lost because he wanted to knock him out the same reason Apollo lost. They’re both superior fighters. Rocky just can take a hit and keep going.
@@taylorpack7705 I don’t think Drago lost because he wanted to knock Rocky out, he simply just didn’t have enough to beat Rocky. Also the ability to be hit and keep going only adds to a fighters credentials.
@@theoverallnerds I fully agree with your list what a masterclass this is how rankings should be done
Drago is actually #1
Rocky (4rth moovie) #2
Why rocky won? He keeped getting up qnd draho doesn't have the same willpower
Apollo CREED is number 1 because Rocky said he was the best-but he was on the decline when Rocky thought him Apollo showed his class but only glimpses of his skill and brilliance against Drago but he was well past his best - Rocky said Rocky was the best
Sun and light: Apollo was also known as Phoebus in Roman literature, which means "sun
even his name is a God
I would understand it having Apollo or Rocky at num 1, but just as long those two and Ivan Drago are in the top 3!
Thank you for putting everyone infront of Mason Dixion. He by far weakest and least skilled
Apollo creed is number one. Apollo creed is the goat of boxing.
Rocky can beat him dude. When Apollo was younger he still got beat. What kind of answer is this?!?!?
Pienso que Drago les gana a todos porque tenia fuerza sobrehumana, Rocky es guion no puede perder y Apollo podria ser como dices pero Drago con una pegada los destrozaba mental y fisicamente.
I agree that Apollo is overall the best boxer in the franchise because he has by far the most consistent career and maintained his peak level of skill for the longest time, whereas Rocky would often peak and valley and need to get back into shape. But at his peak, during the fight with Drago, Rocky was better than anyone ever was or ever will be. To use a more extreme example, Whitey Ford was the Yankees best pitcher in the 50s and 60s, but he never threw a no-hitter. Don Larsen was a mediocre pitcher at best who had the best day in pitching history, throwing a perfect game during the 1956 World Series. For 1 day Larsen was better than Ford could ever hope to be, though Ford is an infinitely pitcher in every conceivable way. The differences between Rocky and Apollo are nowhere near as great, but it illustrates the difference between temporary peak performance and career performance.
Two guys fight in a boxing match. Fighter A and fighter B.
Fighter A absolutely destroys fighter B in under two rounds. Beats him so badly that he dies from his injuries.
How can you say the fighter that died is better then the fighter who killed him?
Cool video but C'mon man...lol
Because context is everything. It's never as simple as "A beat B." You need to ask "HOW did A win?" and "WHY did B lose?"
Apollo lost because he was 5 years out of practice, he severely underestimated Drago and overestimated himself equally severely. The point was that at his peak he would have most likely won since at that point he'd be able to evade Drago's punches.
No way donny beats clubber he too strong for rocky so
Not only he wins but he wins by ko
@@RAMBO-mu2zm clubber is strong but his gas tank is the worse of all fighters. Donny has shown he can take a hit and keep going, if it goes to round 2 it’s game over for clubber.
CLUBBER COULD KNOCK OUT DRAGO ALSO...HE HAD THE POWER IF HE LANDS THE RIGHT PUNCH
He got killed in a street fight from Drago canonly
Of course Rocky is #1.
Rocky beat the guy who killed Apollo and thats all you need to know...
Mason dixon beat Rocky so does that make Dixon #1?
Nope, nope, Apollos better
Apollo is a great character - I concur
Rocky is 1 .. fu
Rocky is the best he has all the plot armour you could want 😂
All this debating over fictional characters with predetermined outcomes
Gotta love it
It's called having FUN. You do know what fun is, don't you.
Adonis>apollo
why?
@@theoverallnerds because of statements
So uhh, Apollo is better than Ivan now? 😂
@@AnAverageGamer662 Prime Apollo yes. That’s like saying Mason Dixon is better than Rocky because he beat a retired version of him.
@@theoverallnerds Brother Ivan has more durability and hits 1.5x times harder than prime tyson 😭🙏 Apollo could only dream of winning.
N a real fight none has a chance there dead in 2 minutes
I've been a huge fan of the rocky franchise, especially the first 4. As much as I love rocky I always knew deep down Apollo was the goat. Like you said Duke begged Apollo to stick and move in the later rounds of their 2nd fight but Apollos pride got in the way. Had he done that rocky would have never beaten as you pointed out a older champion.
I would also add that the newer characters that came after rocky 4 is like actual boxing today. You can't convince me that they hold a candle to the older generation boxer. It's like comparing fury, wilder and joshua to Ali, Holmes and Tyson. The best era of boxers was from the 70's and 80's. All divisions had killers in them.
great list
Isn't the beat fighter the one that wins?
@@DatDamnLlama everyone on this list has lost and won fights
@@theoverallnerds but only one of them came back stronger, faster, and ultimately won more over the course. If we're talking better athletes, Apollo all the way. The best fighter is the one left standing though. That's Rocky.
@@DatDamnLlama Rocky lost more fights than Apollo and Apollo won their last fight
@@theoverallnerds ah. You're biased. Copy.
@@DatDamnLlama haha by your logic the best fighter would be Adonis creed cause he’s “the last one standing”