this show was never supposed to be a true detective series.Apparently HBO decided to call it TD.All the tuttle/spiral/rust cohle references really feels shoehorned in.
That makes a lot of sense. I was just talking with a friend about it and neither of us could believe they labeled it True Detective when it was so wildly different from the Pizzolatto seasons. The fact they just slapped it on just for marketing has been a huge backfire, it raised expectations for everyone lol
Ive been saying this HBOs quality has taken a nosedive recently. Its really sad HBO used to mean something and now its just a slightly better netflix with nudity, but only sometimes.
The murder case lasted about 2 weeks (in universe). This murder was the biggest police case to happen to this town. Peter had to pull doubles for two weeks and his wife kicks him out because of this?!?!? Your husband is a freaking DETECTIVE lady. 6 dead scientists and you couldn't give him a break for two weeks. She acts like he was on his 4 deployment and his son is growing up without him. Terrible characters. All the women on that show are insufferable and terribly written. And Peter needed to grow a pair
I hated everything about season 4 but I just think it’s a show not made for me. The dialogue is weak and lacks any nuance, the music drops make me cringe hard, the constant callbacks to season 1 is desperate, and the story just goes nowhere. I was expecting science, creation, some kind of Bloodborne Lovecraftian hubris but no: we just get silly jump scares and “you’re in the night country now”
@@ayandey137 Dude was pulling up evidence, got his best friend to do forensics, researched the company, was able to confirm that Navoro killed that dude in the past etc etc he was definitely a true detective
The problem with these characters is the writers were so obsessed with making them what a woman's perception of masculinity is they couldn't have good self reflective serious conversations but instead dismissive bro culture dialog.
I felt like the writing and directing were projecting the creator's feelings towards masculinity in shows like True Detective. However, season 1 has masculine characters with flawed and warped perceptions and is clearly showcasing these are not bad men, but they are not good either. They're human and dealing with some evil stuff. I also hate how Peter's wife is automatically annoyed with him working so much. In contrast, in season 1, Maggie is worried about Marty working all the time and the gruesomeness of the case. That's why when it's revealed he's cheating on her, I have the utmost sympathy for her and none for Marty, even when she cheats on him with Rust.
Good grief, I'm a girl and every show or movie that desperately tries to pander to the crowd who want "female empowerment" just never fails to make me cringe. There were far more better pieces of media that actually do showcase proper female empowerment back then when they weren't actually trying. There still is now, but they often get overshadowed by garbage shows like this. Just make a normal show for pete sake. Make a strong badass whatever character who just happens to be a woman than a character whose entirely personality is centered around being a strong badass whatever woman.
Normally I would find comps to S1 unfair, but S4 is trying so hard to make comps and connections to S1 that the criticism is warranted. Also would love a video on S3. I think it's very underrated as well
I was wondering how the other seasons stood up as I loved 1 and I am watching this one even though it just feels off and baiting, I will definitely check out season 3 then....
Jodie Foster was also just badly miscast. There are many other things she's good in, but she always exudes trepidation and unease. That's why she was so good in Silence of the Lambs, surrounded as she was by psychos, perverts, and a cannibal; she ought to have been unnerved, and looked it. By contrast, she cannot pull off this swaggering, domineering boss, backslapping, quipping, stomping around drunkenly off the job hooking up with men who somehow cannot resist her but just want to know 'where all of this is going'...one cannot quite suspend disbelief.
It was "Girl Power" trash. The audience today goes in looking for the "Agenda" and then we are like "There it is" and we can't even focus on the show or movie anymore. They don't even hide it.
Sounds like a personal problem, what a brain-dead analysis. If you want to consume media like a Neanderthal, more power to you, but spare the rest of us your less than worthless opinion.
Sesaon 1 was was dark and grim, but it had some of the funniest moments ever. I'll never forget episode 6, when the captain is yelling at Rust and Marty and he calls Marty "human tampon" I laughed so hard, but it never took away from the drama and severity of the situation
I loved also when Marty is waiting in the car for Rust to come back to it (episode 3 I think when we meet Errol for the first time) and he said like ''Can you walk any slower'' or something along those lines. I laughed hard lol
The daughter doesn’t seem to understand that ANYONE who hit a cop in the head with a brick would be arrested. Instead she and the cop that arrested her are surprised she actually has to face consequences for her actions. NO ONE points out that getting preferential treatment because you’re a cop’s kid is a form of privilege the other natives don’t have, or that just because you believe you are “fighting for what’s right” doesn’t mean everything you do is ok. If her mom is this ridiculous, over-the-top racist, then why did she get with her father? The young cop’s wife only exists to be a wet blanket. She has nothing to do in the show but complain.
I love how she calls them “pigs” as soon as she finds out mommy said she had to go to jail. She has no problem with Liz being a cop whenever it means it can get her spoiled ass out of trouble.
@@seen921 i agree, except I want a second season of it!! It was such a good story and takes place around where I'm from, they did so good with the accent 🤣
I think the most frustrating thing about this season is that the horror in it is actually really good, especially in the first few episodes. It was such a waste to throw away all the supernatural elements and just have the reveal be a rogue group of aunties slaughtering the scientists. And the way they wrote the scientists as these inhuman murderers at the end was clearly motivated by misandry, as all the villains of the show turned out to be men (except the one good guy who was meek and submissive and always did as he was told), and all the women of the story were either innocent victims or vengeful heroes. It was a show that tried to be a commentary on way too many hot-button social issues, and none of them were integrated well. It tried to be a story about svicide, about race relations, about indigenous land rights, about environmentalism, about sexism, about depression, yadda yadda yadda. Pick a lane and stick to it! This was actually my introduction to the True Detective franchise, and although I enjoyed the season well enough until the ending, I'm going back and watching season 1 for the first time and yeah, it's amazing how stark the contrast is in quality.
Here is my gripe with the positive reviews of the season: I watch the series because I like detective mysteries. In interviews and articles for the season, the main focus and topic have been female leads, inclusion, etc., so when viewers bring up any criticism of the actual mystery itself, they're derided as hating those things because, for whatever reason, the narrative is that those things cannot be separated. It's pretty frustrating and insane, and it is just causing more pushback from critical viewers.
There have been positive reviews of this series? Where? Here on TH-cam every one I’ve seen has been negative. This is *perhaps* more balanced than most. Some have flayed the series! The idea that this wasn’t meant to be a TD series initially seems valid, and needs to be clarified as it would explain much.
Great points as usual. Personally I'm not bothered by the color gradient. Bright and colorful interiors make for a nice contrast with the cold and dark exterior, emphasizing the tension between the community (life) and the hostile environment (death).
I'm curious how they will wrap up this mess... So far it's just underwhelming, story wise. The premise is interesting, the setting is cool but everything else just isn't 'it' - in my humble opinion. How can be there so little 'detecting' in True Detective?
Bad writers equate female agency with being angry and commanding all the time. As if those are the only two traits a woman can have to show they are complex and in control of their story.
I know no one dares to mention this but...... The thought process and world view in the first True Detective is core male philosophy. It cannot be replicated by a female.
I believe in an area like Alaska, with a significant indigenous population, it makes sense that an exception is made for officers from such communities. Even though it’s generally restricted in a LOT of places.
@@tagus100 I dont. In an area THAT rural with indigenous communities I doubt anyone would care as they are getting someone who wants to do the job in such small community. Ive seen an officer in Florida with a full neck tattoo. Why is it so hard for you to believe that some people dont give a shit about an officer having facial piercings????
@@bluehornet632 The actress has them in real life and they stupidly didn't make her remove them for the show. It's as simple as that - quit making excuses for this nonsense.
I passed puddles on my way to work this morning that were more well rounded and not nearly as shallow as this show. It made a lot more sense when I learned that Issa Lopez has a background in telenovela. It was never going to satisfy people who like a well thought out mystery.
You said this show is not color graded. It's actually heavily color graded with orange highlights and blue shadows, to the point that it detracts from the realism of it.
Horrible season. The writers tried to do way too much and got lost in the end. The also relied on stupid horror cliches to try to move their unfocued story forward.
Of course they’ll blame it on “toxic masculinity” but in reality the acting wasn’t an issue at all it was the story telling easily the worst season of true detective it led to absolutely nothing and was insanely lackluster
Im enjoying the show and still, I completely agree. I feel like most of the engaging and supernatural aspects will just not matter or have anything to do with what's "really" happening. I really hate most media aimed at women, which is what this season is... antisocial conditioning
@@TheMarmara2023 I get you're an angry incel who's pretty lonely so you take your anger out on women but you know the last 2 seasons were written by a man right? the 2nd season being clearly the worst season (written solely by a man and directed solely by men). Also here's some female directors for you Katherine Bigalow (Hurt Locker, Zero Dark Thirty, Point Break) Mary Harron (American Psycho) Greta Gerwig (Ladybird, Barbie) Larisa Shepitko (The Ascent) Sofia Coppola (Lost in Translation, Priscilla) Agnes Verda (Vagabond) Jennifer Kent (The Babadook). And many many more, also how's head chef a man's job? It's cooking not lifting weights lol.
I hate these gender studies showrunners and directors, but c'mon. There are plenty of female directors and showrunners who actually make an excellent job. The reason this season sucked was because the showrunner was a hack and was more worried about pandering and preaching about her political inclinations than in telling a compelling story. @@TheMarmara2023
Disappointing is putting is lightly. It's borderline offensive to one's intelligence. It's the worst season of TV I've seen in a while. And the worst season finale since Game of Thrones.
this season was all over the place. I gave up after episode 4. it just seemed like this crazy, freakish murder occurred and the show put that on the backburner in favor of a bunch of nothingness
Literally, within the first five minutes of the season, I said to my wife, “well, they fucked up True Detective” and it’s been a slow, rolling disaster ever cents. I literally didn’t read anything about this season prior to watching it, I was still of the understanding that the original writer was attached. I instantaneously knew that he wasn’t with the first couple lines of dialogue. It’s cliché to say that the show got woke, but it’s so in your face here, there’s no woke stone left unturned. Truly a disappointment. It’s the same old thing in the comments sections on Facebook pages about the show. Half the audience thinks that this is the greatest thing ever put on film, the other half of the audience knows that it’s garbage.
Yes, it started off great with ep1 & 2, but I've noticed the lack of dialogue and mostly unanswered questions, too many I think that will be answered in the final episode. They just skipped completely over ep. 4 with Navarro with bleeding ears and a blank stare in the ice cave, I mean, WTF happened here!?? Still, it's better than some shows nowadays. I think many just churn out content since Covid and quality is not a huge factor anymore, but its nice to have something new and original.
@@user-baev Yes he is part black this woman claims ancestral origins from fake native tribes actually consisting of African Americans who are upset they are actually black .Do some research
I thought the last two episodes were really, really, really disappointing and poorly written(acted well though at least). I loved (LOVED) episodes 1 and 2, but already at 3 I started to have concerns. The 6 episodes run wasn't enough clearly. Too many plot holes or things they never came back to: 1- What about all the elk in the very first scene of episode 1 that leapt off the cliff? 2- Why put the spiral, the Tuttle family, Travis Cohle, what's inside Clarks trailer (the bones and stuff) and all the other season 1 references and do nothing with them? If you take out everything of the season, it wouldn't change anything since they didn't add none. I thought it was a cheap device to make people guess and come back every week. 3- The way Annie dies in the finale versus what they saw on her cell phone was completely different. 4- They never came back on the ending of episode 4 when Danvers found Navarro sitting on the floor, in a transe, with her ears bleeding. 5- They never came back to Navarro's vision of the dead soldier. 6- Why Rose is so ok with dropping bodies? lol 7- So I guess Navarro finally ends her life and come back as a ghost? The list goes on as I have many more issues with the season. They spent way too much time opening storylines, on mysteries (was it all supernatural or realistic) without ever really closing them and most of the characters, albeit well acted, were all only on the surface. We never got to really know them that well since we only got a general idea about who they were. And since they spent so much time on the ''horror'' aspect, in the end, there was nothing supernatural about it really so there's no rewatchability, in the sense that since we know the magic trick and it was a realistic one, the horror/tension scenes won't work well cause we know. I'll probably never watch it again.
dude! the Navarro sister thing nobody seems to mention it! but if even in the facility they didnt know she was missing and also she went naked so how did she find her and also how did the coastguard knew it was her so fast?? like within minutes! wtf?!!!!!!😂
I agree with you, True Detective should have been only one (1) season, and I hope you’ll do your videos of Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, and Mr. Robot at some point
@@vladimirvlad6441 finally someone else who likes season 2. All I've ever seen was people shitting on it because they expected something like season 1 even though it's not possible to recreate that. It was still good regardless
@@topgeorge6908Well i guess people don't like it mostly because of the more comlicated story. I watched it at least three times and fnally got it. First time i didn't understand it at all and had an opinion same as many people.
I liked both season 2 (has great moments) and season 3 (extremely underrated, great season), so they did good by continuing the series. Also, TD = Nic Pizzolato, no Nic = that's not TD
It’s like they’re afraid to make dark desolate adult shows. Had they just made this show not under the True Detective moniker it may have passed, but since they did it shines a big spotlight on just how bad it is.
Whats crazy is ALL the humor in Season 1 comes from Rust and Hart's characters being different people. I couldn't tell you a single thing about Nazarro that isn't true about Jodie Cormer (who's name I literally don't know after 5 episodes) besides their race
This show doesn’t know what the hell it wants to be. The characters just say ominous things that can’t be explained and never are. It’s like one long trailer.
I bailed on this show after ep3. I agree with everything you said. On top of that, I kept wondering why virtually no one was talking about the supernatural aspect. When they found the frozen corpses they were screaming at one point and no one mentions it?
Nice analysis. Finale solved none of the issues with this season. Even had people jumping into ice holes without a way to extracting themselves in a suicidal fashion.
5:26 - There's actually a grey filter there - light one but still. There's almost no American TV show (scripted) today without filters. Only in the UK & Europe you'll find no-filtered TV
I'm waiting for someone to drop a 1-2 hour long video essay tearing into this season for how shamelessly bad it truly is, but this one is really good in the mean time 😁If no one else makes it after a while, I'm going to make it myself.
I'm enjoying the show insofar as I needed something to watch on Sunday nights. My biggest gripe is how slowly the plot has moved forward, raising more questions than answers. I don't know how they're going to wrap this up in one episode
The writing took a backseat to the messaging like most of modern media is doing now. And the messaging is also misandrist and ironically racist on two ends lol.
Missed opportunities… They should have leaned into the supernatural/horror aspect more or simply stuck with a similar storyline to S1 (girls being murdered by shadowy figures). Rose and Qavik were wasted characters… was expecting more from at least one of them. If Qavik had killed Annie that would have been a shocker… they could have even made Navarro’s sister (who worked for Qavik in the bar) find out somehow and had Qavik kill her too… would have added some major tension for the finale. For Rose… would have been nice if she turned out not to be a real person… a spirit of the Night Country. All in all I didn’t hate it… but I don’t think they’ll ever be able to make a TD that’s on the level of S1. Reminds me a lot of Westworld in that way. Set the bar way too high with the first season and just couldn’t match it after that.
I 100% agree. I wrote my own criticisms just above yours if you want to read them, but overall yeah...so many missed opportunities. ''They should have leaned into the supernatural/horror aspect more or simply stuck with a similar storyline to S1 (girls being murdered by shadowy figures)'' That's exactly what I said to my gf after we watched it. Since, at the end of the day, nothing was really supernatural per se (and some stuff are just up for interpretation), re-watching the season won't be compelling again because all those ''supernatural'' scenes or segments were not ''real''. So, for example, seeing a shadowy form running quickly from left to right on the screen, knowing now that it's only Clark running to hide himself, won't be scary at all because your brain knows that it's not supernatural. I could go on, like you said, they should've leaned hard on the supernatural or realism. Not both equally cause it never works.
This season sucks so much that literally during the first episodes I forgot to turn on the TV to watch it. After watching a couple or three episodes I totally lost interest in this season.
The shoehorning of the spiral, Travis Cohle, and Tuttle, all of which led to NOWHERE, really cocked up the whole show. Don’t include it if you’re not gonna use it. Changing the entire meaning of the spiral was some of the dumbest writing for a sequel series ever.
It really did suck a lot… i thought Jodie Foster would be the perfect actress for the roll, but her performance was just corny and obnoxious. I hated it, mediocre at best…
I haven't seen the show but by just watching this, the main characters cheek piercings are very distracting. I now don't wish to watch just because of that...
HBO blows it again. This could only have come from the minds of people with the woke mind-virus. Blowing the ending with forced identity politics is nothing new for HBO, but this entire season has been miserable. Not at all entertainment.
I didn't hate it. Some of it was irritating but I was on board for the most part. Jodie Foster was great. But the finale was absolutely awful. It was cheesy, borderline saccharine nonsense, and the ambiguity about the more 'supernatural' elements fell completely flat. It Soured the entire season for me.
@@JesseWelds I thought she was one of the best parts of night country. She was good in Silence of the lambs. Also there's a movie from the 70s she was in as a kid that she was good in.
Im willing to bet this show was originally titled "Night Country" as a stand alone mini series. When Lopez realized her show wouldnt get anywhere with it just preaching crazy feminist fantasies, slap "True Detective" on it
i just remember the pierced black female cop in alaska beating up a couple of guys and then scenes where kids walking in on the frozen pile of corpses and just ignores them like its nothing special. its just nonsensical
Yea, it's not talked about much but it definitely is the 2nd best season of the show. The case is intriguing, it has that typical True Detective philosophical pondering too. It is the slowest burn of all 4 seasons though and some people don't like that.
The acting was fine. The directing was fine. The main problem with True Detective season 4 was the writing. The audience is smart, but the story is not. The writing is incoherent. The characters are simple and one dimensional. From the first episode to the last episode, there are no characters that are enjoyable or even likable. Sadly, the entire season is devoid of love. Perhaps this is the writer's view and understanding of human relationships.
what show or movie is that scene at 7:25 ?? Please anyone. Is it True Detective Night Country still? I haven't seen Episode 5 yet so manybe I just haven't seen it yet, was that a gaint Alien spider
I’m really looking forward to the new HBO show “The Regime” with Kate Winslet. That looks SO GOOD. She looks like she’s acting her ass off in it. Hopefully it’s not disappointing like this one. I haven’t even seen this show yet but since I agree with your reviews 99.99% of the time, I know I’ll hate it. When I see the trailers and that Jodie Foster was in, I expected it to at least be appealing if not perfect. But it seems more like something I can just skip. You and I have the exact same taste in tv and film so I just know this will blow. You are somehow always into the same exact sh*t that I’m into.
Man, season one is pretty funny at times. Literally the clip you used of Rust' monologue is just so absurd, Marty usually makes a comment, making fun of him. I think you're definitely missing how self aware season one is, and how it makes fun of itself at times. I definitely didn't see until I watched it a second time. I believe that this season had some good ideas to work with, spiritually/ mental illness, indigenous struggles specifically about how indigenous women are murdered at an alarming rate in real life, family/loyalty. However, I don't believe they gave this season enough room to fully flesh out these ideas and tie them in to the overall investigation. Definitely still better than season 2, I had high hopes for this season since Mathew McConaughey and Woody Herrelson are the executive producers for night country
The only thing that i have trouble to agree with is that Denvers is a bad character, she actually is amazing, you dont have to like her, yes she is an asshole but the performing so far is great. But the rest of the video is true, the show misses in the nature of true detective, it feels like a netflix show more than a HBO show.
this show was never supposed to be a true detective series.Apparently HBO decided to call it TD.All the tuttle/spiral/rust cohle references really feels shoehorned in.
That makes a lot of sense. I was just talking with a friend about it and neither of us could believe they labeled it True Detective when it was so wildly different from the Pizzolatto seasons. The fact they just slapped it on just for marketing has been a huge backfire, it raised expectations for everyone lol
It made no sense…
@@macnsteez3938 yeah if they do a season 5 it will need to be stellar, had a built in audience, but now.Not so much
Pizzicalatto did not write this season
@@joshgranstrom4689he's a shitty writer so who cares
Between this show and The Idol, HBOs rep as prestige TV producer is in danger. This is some CW shit
Right? Why did they even decide to name it True Detective? To kill another franchise after Game of Thrones?
Ive been saying this HBOs quality has taken a nosedive recently. Its really sad HBO used to mean something and now its just a slightly better netflix with nudity, but only sometimes.
I wouldn't go that far yet when they still have big hitters like House of the Dragon and The Righteous Gemstones.
Uuu that's bad. CW....
@@omaridaniels8427And “the last of us” and “succession” which won basically all awards.
Can’t all be winners when you have to keep subscriptions.
the finale is even worse
Yeah.
Saw it coming.
Saw someone call it “cleaning team 6” 😂
It was wonderul. I was glad it wasnt some supernatural shit
Ending is honestly hilarious, I was laughing my ass off
Loved it. Finally an ending that makes sense...
No sci-fi supernatural shit which is cheap, very cheap
When that Billie Eilish song started, I knew there was something wrong
Yeah, T. Bone Burnett doing the original song for season one was so dope. I can't stand Billie Eilish.
It really sets the tone for a show that makes you want to swallow the whole bottle of sleeping pills.
@@albertosillywhips7281 🤣🤣🤣
SAME! like who is issa catering too? The tiktok generation?
I heard the first five seconds, then skipped every intro for the rest of the season.
The murder case lasted about 2 weeks (in universe). This murder was the biggest police case to happen to this town. Peter had to pull doubles for two weeks and his wife kicks him out because of this?!?!? Your husband is a freaking DETECTIVE lady. 6 dead scientists and you couldn't give him a break for two weeks. She acts like he was on his 4 deployment and his son is growing up without him. Terrible characters. All the women on that show are insufferable and terribly written. And Peter needed to grow a pair
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I hated everything about season 4 but I just think it’s a show not made for me. The dialogue is weak and lacks any nuance, the music drops make me cringe hard, the constant callbacks to season 1 is desperate, and the story just goes nowhere. I was expecting science, creation, some kind of Bloodborne Lovecraftian hubris but no: we just get silly jump scares and “you’re in the night country now”
Who was it made for then? People who like weak dialogue, cringey music, constant callbacks?
@@apelincoln1616 Yes.
@@apelincoln1616yep people with zero taste and love bs ideological hysteria
Navarro annoys the hell out of me. Most of her performance is just blank stares alternating with indignation.
nah bro, you just Andrew tate fanboy who hate strong independent wahmen
@@galaxypulsanotion2935 lol please. Andrew Tate is such a poser. Alpha men don't have to always remind you they're alpha.
I think it was sarcasm. Or I hope so@@guitarhero8110
She just scowls
@@guitarhero8110 This is the type of dude that would squirm in front of the people he is talking about.
The worst season and the ending makes no sense at all
Season 4 said to season 2 “here, hold my beer.”
the season sucked but the ending made perfect sense. Youre just dumb bro
And the fucking critics think this shit is classic. I just can't.
Prior is the real True Detective
Real
You mean google detective? 😂
The cleaning ladies seem the true detective 😂
@@ayandey137 Dude was pulling up evidence, got his best friend to do forensics, researched the company, was able to confirm that Navoro killed that dude in the past etc etc he was definitely a true detective
@@ipman127 hey man i was only kidding
as soon as i heard billie eilish i knew something was wrong, i'm happy i'm not the only one who noticed this
The problem with these characters is the writers were so obsessed with making them what a woman's perception of masculinity is they couldn't have good self reflective serious conversations but instead dismissive bro culture dialog.
feminist perception*
I felt like the writing and directing were projecting the creator's feelings towards masculinity in shows like True Detective. However, season 1 has masculine characters with flawed and warped perceptions and is clearly showcasing these are not bad men, but they are not good either. They're human and dealing with some evil stuff.
I also hate how Peter's wife is automatically annoyed with him working so much. In contrast, in season 1, Maggie is worried about Marty working all the time and the gruesomeness of the case. That's why when it's revealed he's cheating on her, I have the utmost sympathy for her and none for Marty, even when she cheats on him with Rust.
A woman's perception? I can see that.
Good grief, I'm a girl and every show or movie that desperately tries to pander to the crowd who want "female empowerment" just never fails to make me cringe. There were far more better pieces of media that actually do showcase proper female empowerment back then when they weren't actually trying. There still is now, but they often get overshadowed by garbage shows like this. Just make a normal show for pete sake. Make a strong badass whatever character who just happens to be a woman than a character whose entirely personality is centered around being a strong badass whatever woman.
@@bored_potato I didn’t expect the old “women grabs guns = empowerment and Justice” to come from a woman show runner, but here we are.
Normally I would find comps to S1 unfair, but S4 is trying so hard to make comps and connections to S1 that the criticism is warranted.
Also would love a video on S3. I think it's very underrated as well
Season 3 is great.
I was wondering how the other seasons stood up as I loved 1 and I am watching this one even though it just feels off and baiting, I will definitely check out season 3 then....
@@JustPolar98 I think it is the second best season. Great season.
Jodie Foster was also just badly miscast. There are many other things she's good in, but she always exudes trepidation and unease. That's why she was so good in Silence of the Lambs, surrounded as she was by psychos, perverts, and a cannibal; she ought to have been unnerved, and looked it. By contrast, she cannot pull off this swaggering, domineering boss, backslapping, quipping, stomping around drunkenly off the job hooking up with men who somehow cannot resist her but just want to know 'where all of this is going'...one cannot quite suspend disbelief.
It's because they watched Fargo once and wanted to make Fargo without understanding what made Fargo great.
The scary thing is they’ve confirmed a season 5 with the same writers..
I’d rather be diagnosed with testicular cancer than ever watch this dog shit again
Sounds like a threat. Wish I’d noticed someone else wrote this mess, not the original show-runner.
It was "Girl Power" trash. The audience today goes in looking for the "Agenda" and then we are like "There it is" and we can't even focus on the show or movie anymore. They don't even hide it.
Sounds like a personal problem, what a brain-dead analysis. If you want to consume media like a Neanderthal, more power to you, but spare the rest of us your less than worthless opinion.
Normies swear it's just a conspiracy theory tho 😂
Sesaon 1 was was dark and grim, but it had some of the funniest moments ever. I'll never forget episode 6, when the captain is yelling at Rust and Marty and he calls Marty "human tampon" I laughed so hard, but it never took away from the drama and severity of the situation
I loved also when Marty is waiting in the car for Rust to come back to it (episode 3 I think when we meet Errol for the first time) and he said like ''Can you walk any slower'' or something along those lines. I laughed hard lol
Its insane how IN i was after episode one. Now each release just makes me hate it more
Feel the exact same way
I was relieved when there was only 1 episode left
Same here.
Every episode was terrible. I was watching a train-wreck
A tasty entree followed by a half cooked main course & lukewarm dessert🤢
The daughter doesn’t seem to understand that ANYONE who hit a cop in the head with a brick would be arrested. Instead she and the cop that arrested her are surprised she actually has to face consequences for her actions. NO ONE points out that getting preferential treatment because you’re a cop’s kid is a form of privilege the other natives don’t have, or that just because you believe you are “fighting for what’s right” doesn’t mean everything you do is ok.
If her mom is this ridiculous, over-the-top racist, then why did she get with her father?
The young cop’s wife only exists to be a wet blanket. She has nothing to do in the show but complain.
So a normal wife?
I love how she calls them “pigs” as soon as she finds out mommy said she had to go to jail. She has no problem with Liz being a cop whenever it means it can get her spoiled ass out of trouble.
@@alexmartin3143😂
Did you watch Mare of Easttown? I'd love to see a video on that show, even though it's a few years old now!
It easily could have been a True Detective season
Mare was a great show and could have been a season of True Detective
@@seen921 i agree, except I want a second season of it!! It was such a good story and takes place around where I'm from, they did so good with the accent 🤣
Great great show!
Better show!!!
This season was all over the place. So many plot holes. The ending was very underwhelming and I’m still confused.
The only horror in this season is seeing a sweaty 61-year old Jodie Foster getting pile-drived in a seedy hotel room. 😣
By Eccelstone none the less. Could have done without that fs.
Oh, that was so bad. At least in the other seasons they had some good looking younger babes getting naked.😂
That was pretty horrifying
oh my
she looks awesome
It was so bad, the Yellow King looks down on these choompa loompas from Carcosa and vomits white frozen bile!!
True Detective is a rare instance of an unremarkable show with the most remarkable first season in the history of television.
Same as The many saints of Newark
Yeah, you left out how Navarro and Danvers murdered someone and covered it up.
A cop too…
Pretty sure Cole and Hart did that too
With season 1 it was integral to the plot though.
I think the most frustrating thing about this season is that the horror in it is actually really good, especially in the first few episodes. It was such a waste to throw away all the supernatural elements and just have the reveal be a rogue group of aunties slaughtering the scientists. And the way they wrote the scientists as these inhuman murderers at the end was clearly motivated by misandry, as all the villains of the show turned out to be men (except the one good guy who was meek and submissive and always did as he was told), and all the women of the story were either innocent victims or vengeful heroes. It was a show that tried to be a commentary on way too many hot-button social issues, and none of them were integrated well. It tried to be a story about svicide, about race relations, about indigenous land rights, about environmentalism, about sexism, about depression, yadda yadda yadda. Pick a lane and stick to it!
This was actually my introduction to the True Detective franchise, and although I enjoyed the season well enough until the ending, I'm going back and watching season 1 for the first time and yeah, it's amazing how stark the contrast is in quality.
Here is my gripe with the positive reviews of the season: I watch the series because I like detective mysteries. In interviews and articles for the season, the main focus and topic have been female leads, inclusion, etc., so when viewers bring up any criticism of the actual mystery itself, they're derided as hating those things because, for whatever reason, the narrative is that those things cannot be separated. It's pretty frustrating and insane, and it is just causing more pushback from critical viewers.
Usual suspects and usual narrative
There have been positive reviews of this series? Where? Here on TH-cam every one I’ve seen has been negative. This is *perhaps* more balanced than most. Some have flayed the series! The idea that this wasn’t meant to be a TD series initially seems valid, and needs to be clarified as it would explain much.
@@richardking3206 Wikipedia says that it has 92% of approval in rotten tomatos and that it was the most well received season since four.
Great points as usual. Personally I'm not bothered by the color gradient. Bright and colorful interiors make for a nice contrast with the cold and dark exterior, emphasizing the tension between the community (life) and the hostile environment (death).
I'm curious how they will wrap up this mess... So far it's just underwhelming, story wise. The premise is interesting, the setting is cool but everything else just isn't 'it' - in my humble opinion. How can be there so little 'detecting' in True Detective?
be curious no more :))
@@dan-nickcroitoru9656 Yeah... About that xD
This season gets worst every episode. No likeable characters and just have scenes to move along a horrible plot line. Disappointing.
The finale was sooooo dumb
how?
Every female in the show is ALWAYS angry. It's tiresome.
We should all be angry. Males are killing the planet
Bad writers equate female agency with being angry and commanding all the time. As if those are the only two traits a woman can have to show they are complex and in control of their story.
@@rtan8780 Very well said !
I know no one dares to mention this but......
The thought process and world view in the first True Detective is core male philosophy. It cannot be replicated by a female.
I couldn't suspend my disbelief enough to accept that full facial piercings would be allowed for a frontline police officer.
I believe in an area like Alaska, with a significant indigenous population, it makes sense that an exception is made for officers from such communities.
Even though it’s generally restricted in a LOT of places.
@@xPains Doubt that extends to facial piercings where it's clearly just a fashion statement.
@@tagus100 I dont. In an area THAT rural with indigenous communities I doubt anyone would care as they are getting someone who wants to do the job in such small community. Ive seen an officer in Florida with a full neck tattoo. Why is it so hard for you to believe that some people dont give a shit about an officer having facial piercings????
@@bluehornet632 Valid point.
@@bluehornet632 The actress has them in real life and they stupidly didn't make her remove them for the show. It's as simple as that - quit making excuses for this nonsense.
I passed puddles on my way to work this morning that were more well rounded and not nearly as shallow as this show. It made a lot more sense when I learned that Issa Lopez has a background in telenovela. It was never going to satisfy people who like a well thought out mystery.
You said this show is not color graded. It's actually heavily color graded with orange highlights and blue shadows, to the point that it detracts from the realism of it.
as a result looks like a cheap Netflix show for teenagers
Absolutely right. Couldn't believe this was not noted.
A women being unkind is not a sign of strength. Same goes for men, and all people.
They ruined it with the gang of Eskimos being intimidating yet not knowing how to hold firearms.
Horrible season. The writers tried to do way too much and got lost in the end. The also relied on stupid horror cliches to try to move their unfocued story forward.
Of course they’ll blame it on “toxic masculinity” but in reality the acting wasn’t an issue at all it was the story telling easily the worst season of true detective it led to absolutely nothing and was insanely lackluster
SEASON 4 IS GARBAGE 💩
Im enjoying the show and still, I completely agree. I feel like most of the engaging and supernatural aspects will just not matter or have anything to do with what's "really" happening.
I really hate most media aimed at women, which is what this season is... antisocial conditioning
if you strip out the yaaskweenism it's total crap.
It’s cause a woman is directing it. Bound to get a lot of stuff wrong. Directing is like being a head chef, it’s a man’s job
@@TheMarmara2023 I get you're an angry incel who's pretty lonely so you take your anger out on women but you know the last 2 seasons were written by a man right? the 2nd season being clearly the worst season (written solely by a man and directed solely by men). Also here's some female directors for you Katherine Bigalow (Hurt Locker, Zero Dark Thirty, Point Break) Mary Harron (American Psycho) Greta Gerwig (Ladybird, Barbie) Larisa Shepitko (The Ascent) Sofia Coppola (Lost in Translation, Priscilla) Agnes Verda (Vagabond) Jennifer Kent (The Babadook). And many many more, also how's head chef a man's job? It's cooking not lifting weights lol.
@@TheMarmara2023 what a statement
I hate these gender studies showrunners and directors, but c'mon. There are plenty of female directors and showrunners who actually make an excellent job.
The reason this season sucked was because the showrunner was a hack and was more worried about pandering and preaching about her political inclinations than in telling a compelling story.
@@TheMarmara2023
Disappointing is putting is lightly. It's borderline offensive to one's intelligence. It's the worst season of TV I've seen in a while. And the worst season finale since Game of Thrones.
was expecting a great cosmic horror ending, got a very non believable sorority heist.
Thanks to this show, season 2 is getting the empathy I always thought it deserved.
this season was all over the place. I gave up after episode 4. it just seemed like this crazy, freakish murder occurred and the show put that on the backburner in favor of a bunch of nothingness
"Hopefully, the finale is a banger!"
NARRATOR: The finale was not, in fact, a "banger".
Literally, within the first five minutes of the season, I said to my wife, “well, they fucked up True Detective” and it’s been a slow, rolling disaster ever cents. I literally didn’t read anything about this season prior to watching it, I was still of the understanding that the original writer was attached. I instantaneously knew that he wasn’t with the first couple lines of dialogue. It’s cliché to say that the show got woke, but it’s so in your face here, there’s no woke stone left unturned. Truly a disappointment. It’s the same old thing in the comments sections on Facebook pages about the show. Half the audience thinks that this is the greatest thing ever put on film, the other half of the audience knows that it’s garbage.
Yes, it started off great with ep1 & 2, but I've noticed the lack of dialogue and mostly unanswered questions, too many I think that will be answered in the final episode. They just skipped completely over ep. 4 with Navarro with bleeding ears and a blank stare in the ice cave, I mean, WTF happened here!?? Still, it's better than some shows nowadays. I think many just churn out content since Covid and quality is not a huge factor anymore, but its nice to have something new and original.
Or went one of the ice corpses started screaming at the end of the episode. No mention of it again, like WTF?
Haven’t watched this season yet because I just know nothing can beat the first season for me
3rd season beat the 1st for me. But both were very good.
dont watch it.. its dog shit.. better rewatch season 1!
S3’s character work was right up there with S1’s.
Season 4 is in my opinion the best if you disclude the first season.
@@yggdrasil2 you have NO TASTE whatsoever!
This season sucks
I just couldn’t get over the clearly black actress playing an Alaskan native
With facial piercings while in uniform.
That's the least of the problems of season 4. Also, google Wentworth Miller, for education purposes
Wentworth is part black ok. This actress claims ancestry from fake native tribes do research
Wentworth is part black ok. This actress claims ancestry from fake native tribes do research
@@user-baev Yes he is part black this woman claims ancestral origins from fake native tribes actually consisting of African Americans who are upset they are actually black .Do some research
First episode when the Eskimo Lady Cop beat up a guy while simultaneously having a conversation on a phone, I was done.
It is run by a woman, written by women, made for women. No wonder it doesn’t compare to the true ethos of true detective
I thought the last two episodes were really, really, really disappointing and poorly written(acted well though at least). I loved (LOVED) episodes 1 and 2, but already at 3 I started to have concerns. The 6 episodes run wasn't enough clearly. Too many plot holes or things they never came back to:
1- What about all the elk in the very first scene of episode 1 that leapt off the cliff?
2- Why put the spiral, the Tuttle family, Travis Cohle, what's inside Clarks trailer (the bones and stuff) and all the other season 1 references and do nothing with them? If you take out everything of the season, it wouldn't change anything since they didn't add none. I thought it was a cheap device to make people guess and come back every week.
3- The way Annie dies in the finale versus what they saw on her cell phone was completely different.
4- They never came back on the ending of episode 4 when Danvers found Navarro sitting on the floor, in a transe, with her ears bleeding.
5- They never came back to Navarro's vision of the dead soldier.
6- Why Rose is so ok with dropping bodies? lol
7- So I guess Navarro finally ends her life and come back as a ghost?
The list goes on as I have many more issues with the season. They spent way too much time opening storylines, on mysteries (was it all supernatural or realistic) without ever really closing them and most of the characters, albeit well acted, were all only on the surface. We never got to really know them that well since we only got a general idea about who they were. And since they spent so much time on the ''horror'' aspect, in the end, there was nothing supernatural about it really so there's no rewatchability, in the sense that since we know the magic trick and it was a realistic one, the horror/tension scenes won't work well cause we know. I'll probably never watch it again.
dude! the Navarro sister thing nobody seems to mention it! but if even in the facility they didnt know she was missing and also she went naked so how did she find her and also how did the coastguard knew it was her so fast?? like within minutes! wtf?!!!!!!😂
I’ve consistently enjoyed it
How? What about it do you legitimately enjoy so much?
Explain to me how this is the highest ranked season by these corrupt critics?
I agree with you, True Detective should have been only one (1) season, and I hope you’ll do your videos of Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, and Mr. Robot at some point
Can''t agree with you mate. Season 2 is very good, i sooo like Collin Farrel and Rachel Mcadams characters here. Wince Wohn is also very impressive.
@@vladimirvlad6441 finally someone else who likes season 2. All I've ever seen was people shitting on it because they expected something like season 1 even though it's not possible to recreate that. It was still good regardless
@@topgeorge6908Well i guess people don't like it mostly because of the more comlicated story. I watched it at least three times and fnally got it. First time i didn't understand it at all and had an opinion same as many people.
I liked both season 2 (has great moments) and season 3 (extremely underrated, great season), so they did good by continuing the series. Also, TD = Nic Pizzolato, no Nic = that's not TD
It’s like they’re afraid to make dark desolate adult shows. Had they just made this show not under the True Detective moniker it may have passed, but since they did it shines a big spotlight on just how bad it is.
Sadly, this season was total trash.
Whats crazy is ALL the humor in Season 1 comes from Rust and Hart's characters being different people. I couldn't tell you a single thing about Nazarro that isn't true about Jodie Cormer (who's name I literally don't know after 5 episodes) besides their race
Who here misses youtube videos that have actual human voices rather than this AI shit these days?
This show doesn’t know what the hell it wants to be. The characters just say ominous things that can’t be explained and never are. It’s like one long trailer.
I bailed on this show after ep3. I agree with everything you said. On top of that, I kept wondering why virtually no one was talking about the supernatural aspect. When they found the frozen corpses they were screaming at one point and no one mentions it?
because it's terribly written
Nice analysis. Finale solved none of the issues with this season. Even had people jumping into ice holes without a way to extracting themselves in a suicidal fashion.
5:26 - There's actually a grey filter there - light one but still. There's almost no American TV show (scripted) today without filters. Only in the UK & Europe you'll find no-filtered TV
I'm waiting for someone to drop a 1-2 hour long video essay tearing into this season for how shamelessly bad it truly is, but this one is really good in the mean time 😁If no one else makes it after a while, I'm going to make it myself.
The "mystery" is complicated, but not complex. Spoiler: Ep 6 sucks too, maybe worse.
I'm enjoying the show insofar as I needed something to watch on Sunday nights. My biggest gripe is how slowly the plot has moved forward, raising more questions than answers. I don't know how they're going to wrap this up in one episode
Excellent analysis. Night Country is NOT True Detective, sadly.
The writing took a backseat to the messaging like most of modern media is doing now. And the messaging is also misandrist and ironically racist on two ends lol.
Missed opportunities… They should have leaned into the supernatural/horror aspect more or simply stuck with a similar storyline to S1 (girls being murdered by shadowy figures).
Rose and Qavik were wasted characters… was expecting more from at least one of them. If Qavik had killed Annie that would have been a shocker… they could have even made Navarro’s sister (who worked for Qavik in the bar) find out somehow and had Qavik kill her too… would have added some major tension for the finale. For Rose… would have been nice if she turned out not to be a real person… a spirit of the Night Country.
All in all I didn’t hate it… but I don’t think they’ll ever be able to make a TD that’s on the level of S1. Reminds me a lot of Westworld in that way. Set the bar way too high with the first season and just couldn’t match it after that.
I 100% agree. I wrote my own criticisms just above yours if you want to read them, but overall yeah...so many missed opportunities. ''They should have leaned into the supernatural/horror aspect more or simply stuck with a similar storyline to S1 (girls being murdered by shadowy figures)'' That's exactly what I said to my gf after we watched it. Since, at the end of the day, nothing was really supernatural per se (and some stuff are just up for interpretation), re-watching the season won't be compelling again because all those ''supernatural'' scenes or segments were not ''real''. So, for example, seeing a shadowy form running quickly from left to right on the screen, knowing now that it's only Clark running to hide himself, won't be scary at all because your brain knows that it's not supernatural. I could go on, like you said, they should've leaned hard on the supernatural or realism. Not both equally cause it never works.
Michael j Fox is the best part of the show
😂👊🏼
This season sucks so much that literally during the first episodes I forgot to turn on the TV to watch it. After watching a couple or three episodes I totally lost interest in this season.
The shoehorning of the spiral, Travis Cohle, and Tuttle, all of which led to NOWHERE, really cocked up the whole show. Don’t include it if you’re not gonna use it. Changing the entire meaning of the spiral was some of the dumbest writing for a sequel series ever.
It really did suck a lot… i thought Jodie Foster would be the perfect actress for the roll, but her performance was just corny and obnoxious. I hated it, mediocre at best…
I haven't seen the show but by just watching this, the main characters cheek piercings are very distracting. I now don't wish to watch just because of that...
HBO blows it again. This could only have come from the minds of people with the woke mind-virus. Blowing the ending with forced identity politics is nothing new for HBO, but this entire season has been miserable. Not at all entertainment.
I didn't hate it. Some of it was irritating but I was on board for the most part. Jodie Foster was great. But the finale was absolutely awful. It was cheesy, borderline saccharine nonsense, and the ambiguity about the more 'supernatural' elements fell completely flat. It Soured the entire season for me.
People say Jodie foster is great, but why? What has she done thats good? Not this.
@@JesseWelds I thought she was one of the best parts of night country. She was good in Silence of the lambs. Also there's a movie from the 70s she was in as a kid that she was good in.
Im willing to bet this show was originally titled "Night Country" as a stand alone mini series. When Lopez realized her show wouldnt get anywhere with it just preaching crazy feminist fantasies, slap "True Detective" on it
TD:Night Country, "Beating around the bush" best describes the series
My German Shepherd went out in my yard the other day and took a huge, smelly, steamy crap. That crap is better than this season of TD.
And how about naming their child Darwin?? What writer thought that would be edgy and totally not out of place 😂
the lady with the metal in her face is very hard for me to look at
0:03 why the long face?
i walked away from the screen during the finale. The way they tied it all together was horrible and illogical.
i just remember the pierced black female cop in alaska beating up a couple of guys and then scenes where kids walking in on the frozen pile of corpses and just ignores them like its nothing special.
its just nonsensical
Is season 3 worth watching?
Yea, it's not talked about much but it definitely is the 2nd best season of the show. The case is intriguing, it has that typical True Detective philosophical pondering too. It is the slowest burn of all 4 seasons though and some people don't like that.
Yeah
Yes. I loved it.
Yes. Season 3 is great.
i liked it. 7/10
The acting was fine. The directing was fine. The main problem with True Detective season 4 was the writing. The audience is smart, but the story is not. The writing is incoherent. The characters are simple and one dimensional. From the first episode to the last episode, there are no characters that are enjoyable or even likable. Sadly, the entire season is devoid of love. Perhaps this is the writer's view and understanding of human relationships.
Even though I’m not the biggest fan of the season, it could’ve done with 8 episodes since there’s one left now and nothing has happened really.
"All the characters are unlikeable assholes" is SUCH a wild criticism to throw at a TRUE DETECTIVE season....
what show or movie is that scene at 7:25 ?? Please anyone.
Is it True Detective Night Country still?
I haven't seen Episode 5 yet so manybe I just haven't seen it yet, was that a gaint Alien spider
Definitely not Night Country
That’s from Love Death and Robots, season 3 I think
@@Jamesviolaofficial thank you :)
Thank you. Very much appreciate your detailed evaluation. Agree with your assessment.
I’m really looking forward to the new HBO show “The Regime” with Kate Winslet. That looks SO GOOD. She looks like she’s acting her ass off in it. Hopefully it’s not disappointing like this one. I haven’t even seen this show yet but since I agree with your reviews 99.99% of the time, I know I’ll hate it. When I see the trailers and that Jodie Foster was in, I expected it to at least be appealing if not perfect. But it seems more like something I can just skip. You and I have the exact same taste in tv and film so I just know this will blow. You are somehow always into the same exact sh*t that I’m into.
I hope they stick the landing, but i disagree with you completely. I have really enjoyed this season and has kept my interest throughout.
your oppenheimer video is impossible to find :(
Man, season one is pretty funny at times. Literally the clip you used of Rust' monologue is just so absurd, Marty usually makes a comment, making fun of him. I think you're definitely missing how self aware season one is, and how it makes fun of itself at times. I definitely didn't see until I watched it a second time.
I believe that this season had some good ideas to work with, spiritually/ mental illness, indigenous struggles specifically about how indigenous women are murdered at an alarming rate in real life, family/loyalty. However, I don't believe they gave this season enough room to fully flesh out these ideas and tie them in to the overall investigation.
Definitely still better than season 2, I had high hopes for this season since Mathew McConaughey and Woody Herrelson are the executive producers for night country
I doubt either of them had anything to do with the show. Pizzolatto was credited as an executive producer too, and he thought the show was stupid.
It’s really dull. Season 4 is just not very good despite Jodie Foster. This monotone monologue could be more interesting too.
The only thing that i have trouble to agree with is that Denvers is a bad character, she actually is amazing, you dont have to like her, yes she is an asshole but the performing so far is great. But the rest of the video is true, the show misses in the nature of true detective, it feels like a netflix show more than a HBO show.