I love my Avengers Pro. I agree that the the character presence lacks soul which comes through on callouts. This was my first table ever, and am a beginning player so found it to be brutal. But, satisfying enough that I keep coming back for more. The Pro felt too Avengers heavy as I believe Thanos is the star of this table so I swapped out my translite with a premium version and it looks so much better. That being said this pin is so beloved that I picked up a Jurassic Premium simply because of my satisfaction with my AIQ.
Upgrade the Flipper Coils!!!! Stranger Things and Avengers IQ shoot perfectly with the Pinball Life LOTR flipper coils!! Soldering is needed!!! Changed mine in 15 minutes!! Best upgrade for games with huge ramps!!! Scott from pin stadium for the win!!!! Excellent advice Scott!!!!!
Just found your channel a month or so ago. I’m finishing my basement and am planning on a game area with space for a few pin ball machines. I’m a newbie to this world. Have you ever done a video on how to buy a used pin? Where to look, what to look for, what to beware of, etc? I looked through your videos for the last 3 years and don’t think I saw anything to that tune. Either way, love the videos. Thanks for producing such great content!
Nice little treat for my Sunday viewing pleasure! When it comes to art I prefer Dirty Donny, he hides all kind of art within the artwork on his machines,, would love to see him do some more games...Thanks guys and have a great week!..
So I agree with Greg. Audio is super important. If you watch a movie and the pic isn’t great but the audio is great, you can watch it. If the audio sucks it’s trash. Greg a great interview would be with like a Keith and walk through creating soup to nuts so we can get a lot of truer questions answered. Would love that in SDTM
I think my favorite part about the game is seeing that versus screen. Changing my strategy depending on how I want to play. But I am a competitive play so I like the skill shots and things along the lines of that. I do agree that thanos is definitely that saving grace in voice. I do wish there was a cool call out for the versus screen, it needs it
Great review guys! I agree with Zach on the shots/layout. That's an A sure. I also find it to be a long player. Greg I feel the same way as you, I don't think I'm having a ton of fun but I keep playing it too! Zach you totally hit when you said about the rules. It is fun, but just too much work. Your B grade is spot on. I love your guys reviews. Keep doing what you are doing!
FINALLY! Been eagerly awaiting the Dynamic Duo to return. No video about your thoughts on the Twipy’s and your award? Not too surprised, but just sayin’ ;)
Greg's got it right, it's an amazing pin, but every shot you don't hit a 100% accurate is gone, even if you hit the hulk shot perfect it comes back STDM from CA, on top of that too many rejects make this a very hard pin. Also the rules are way to complicated/extensive to just have a simple fun game
Hi Zack & Greg. I bought an Avengers Premium NIB and I love it but my flippers seem weak and I struggle to make it up the ramps in the back. Is that a common problem with this game or do I need to set the incline to a certain level to hit the sweet spot? My flipper power is at 255 and I just wish they were stronger. I would like to know what incline level people are setting for this game and any recommendations regarding the flippers. THANKS!
Nice to see you fellas! Always super in depth, and I truly appreciate it! Sounds like you guys are on the fence with this one. It’s how I feel about Dracula. I love it. It’s addicting..but I leave mad more than happy when I play it. I think I will sell it to make room for Avengers. I don’t feel I would need them both. I don’t want to be frustrated with 2 games in my collection. Lol
Hey Zach I heard you mentioned me in a pod cast. I'm the guy who had the radical. I did sell it but I also used the money to buy deadpool from you. Love me some deadpool. Wish I could of got you that game. Would of been pretty cool seeing it on SDTM. Oh well.
Yes definitely make a video on the different types of player and the different types of games and which types of games different types of players tend to like. I'm relatively new to pinball and despite everyone loving pat lawlor games i just never got into them, whereas i cant get enough of attack from mars. Would love to know what games i'd most likely like based on what i already like to play.
Stern released a Led Zeppelin pinball early this year! I think Stern should make a pinball based on the cartoon The Magic School Bus! How does that sound?
Ordered my premium yesterday. Thanks for the review. Hoping I don’t regret not getting Deadpool. Newbie pinball enthusiast. First machine. Which of the two would you prefer? Deadpool premium is sold out until next production which is maybe in the fall.
Great review of Avengers! I own this pin and am not a pro. You guys see this machine so much the same as I do. It can piss you off too? 😆 Don’t know where you went but I’m glad you did this machine upon your return. Thanks! BTW: Lighting up those back ramps is the best mod (cheapest) of many that I’ve done to this machine besides the (expensive) Mezelmod tower.. Keep em coming guys!
I appreciate the review, thumbs up for sure! However the reasons you don't love the game are some of the reasons I do. The rules are at first overly complex, but this allows the game to grow with you in a home environment, which makes it a long lasting game, in my collection anyway. I don't really understand where to place the gems once they are earned and I really don't care right now, but one day i might sink my teeth into it. It certainly doesn't take away from the game for me. The shots are so satisfying and the combos, ohhh the combos this game just flows.
This is one of the few games I like the Pro Version better, the Captain Marvel shot on the Premium has a vert ramp that is a nightmare. Overall a beautiful game though, but man is it fast and tough. Great review dudes 👍🏻
What code version did you have installed for this review? That would be nice to know for reference as often code can change or adjust some of the issues you have mentioned. Thanks for the review!
Absolutely nailed it on the shots…I’ve had it a year now, and it’s the most frustrating game ever because of the shot precision needed (and i consider myself a very good player)…B is the correct score, especially hate the sanctum shot…the spinner is ALWAYS in the way! Rules are fun…but the progression isn’t when you lose a mode. You feel zero progression and can’t get the gem again unless you get another gem or beat thanos…meh, still love the table, but is the one going to be replaced soon.
hello im debating between godzilla pro and avengers pro, im selling a deadpool pro because it became ripetitive fast and to simplistic, cant have a lot pf fun with that, can ungive any advice on one of the two ?
Keep DP Pro and GZ Pro and avoid this one if you want the best of the three. If not, keep them all. I am picking up my AIQ this weekend. I already have the other two.
Bought the game but I’m still waiting for it... I haven’t played pinball in many years, so I hope I can get some enjoyability out of it! As always, great review guys.
not rating sound>? play more Hobbit, the battle of the 5 armies still gives me chills when you crank it up! always look forward to a review... good or bad. thanks lads. (from Australia)
I really love Avengers. It just works for me but I can understand why people don't care for it. I was going to buy one until I got mesmerized by Godzilla and bought that instead
Great game and toys, overall. I agree with Greg very fun, but very frustrating and I don't care enough about the story / game play. After a couple of games I move to Jurrasic Park A+. Zach threw out an idea on pinball players styles and pins desirability to the player type. A rich psycho analytic narrative, you can play Jung and Freud in the Twilight Zone.
CGC is not remaking the Addams Family, probably ever. The licensing can/will never get ironed out because the estates of the folks involved are greedy people.
Haha I have the premium and feel exactly like these guys! I am on the fence of selling and trading for deadpool and yesterday I had a good game and I was dammit!! But hate the code and how you need a degree in pinball coding to exploit the score
Watching this again, and having played Godzilla, I will say "moments" can get tiresome. Godzilla premium is amazing, but that multiball start loses it's charm after a handful of times.
Ugliest thing I've ever seen. A hot, holy mess. It's like someone knocked over a tree covered with nothing but colored tinsel and you're telling me to stare at it until I see explosions and lens flares and Transformers that look like water. Video monitors on Pinball is intrusive graffiti. That sure is a steaming pile of modern art you got there. The computer that made it with it's bare computer hands deserves a feather cookie and tar milkshake. Love the channel, guys.
I love my Avengers Pro. I agree that the the character presence lacks soul which comes through on callouts. This was my first table ever, and am a beginning player so found it to be brutal. But, satisfying enough that I keep coming back for more. The Pro felt too Avengers heavy as I believe Thanos is the star of this table so I swapped out my translite with a premium version and it looks so much better. That being said this pin is so beloved that I picked up a Jurassic Premium simply because of my satisfaction with my AIQ.
Upgrade the Flipper Coils!!!! Stranger Things and Avengers IQ shoot perfectly with the Pinball Life LOTR flipper coils!! Soldering is needed!!! Changed mine in 15 minutes!! Best upgrade for games with huge ramps!!! Scott from pin stadium for the win!!!! Excellent advice Scott!!!!!
What's the part number?
Just found your channel a month or so ago. I’m finishing my basement and am planning on a game area with space for a few pin ball machines. I’m a newbie to this world. Have you ever done a video on how to buy a used pin? Where to look, what to look for, what to beware of, etc? I looked through your videos for the last 3 years and don’t think I saw anything to that tune. Either way, love the videos. Thanks for producing such great content!
Seriously love these. Can't imagine how much time goes into making each one but the quality is on point. Really lookin forward to your Mando review!
Nice little treat for my Sunday viewing pleasure! When it comes to art I prefer Dirty Donny, he hides all kind of art within the artwork on his machines,, would love to see him do some more games...Thanks guys and have a great week!..
I wouldn’t mind a contemporary Donnie art package again for sure!
So I agree with Greg. Audio is super important. If you watch a movie and the pic isn’t great but the audio is great, you can watch it. If the audio sucks it’s trash. Greg a great interview would be with like a Keith and walk through creating soup to nuts so we can get a lot of truer questions answered. Would love that in SDTM
Waaaaay over looked! Would love to get with Keith and discuss this. (Greg)
Always a great day when a new SDTM video is released!!!! Zach and Greg- the best duo in pinball
Hey thanks Coz!
I think my favorite part about the game is seeing that versus screen. Changing my strategy depending on how I want to play. But I am a competitive play so I like the skill shots and things along the lines of that. I do agree that thanos is definitely that saving grace in voice. I do wish there was a cool call out for the versus screen, it needs it
Great review guys! I agree with Zach on the shots/layout. That's an A sure. I also find it to be a long player. Greg I feel the same way as you, I don't think I'm having a ton of fun but I keep playing it too! Zach you totally hit when you said about the rules. It is fun, but just too much work. Your B grade is spot on. I love your guys reviews. Keep doing what you are doing!
Thank you! It’s so odd. I don’t really enjoy it......but I can’t stop playing ha ha (Greg)
FINALLY! Been eagerly awaiting the Dynamic Duo to return.
No video about your thoughts on the Twipy’s and your award? Not too surprised, but just sayin’ ;)
Godzilla Easter Egg prediction at 37:25
;)
Greg's got it right, it's an amazing pin, but every shot you don't hit a 100% accurate is gone, even if you hit the hulk shot perfect it comes back STDM from CA, on top of that too many rejects make this a very hard pin. Also the rules are way to complicated/extensive to just have a simple fun game
Way to go Greg!! Sound is SO important!! Pinball is 50% audio 49%visual 1%unknown kinetic energy!
Another awesome review guys!!!❤️🇦🇺
Can’t get enough! Keep up the great work!!
Thanks Maber!!!!
Passionate and thorough review.
Wouldn’t have it any other way. We don’t half-ass at sdtm :)
Also your idea of a 5 games that you would get back again is a great idea. I have that same conversation with my friends. Do it guys!
Most certainly is happening!!!!!
Hi Zack & Greg. I bought an Avengers Premium NIB and I love it but my flippers seem weak and I struggle to make it up the ramps in the back. Is that a common problem with this game or do I need to set the incline to a certain level to hit the sweet spot? My flipper power is at 255 and I just wish they were stronger. I would like to know what incline level people are setting for this game and any recommendations regarding the flippers. THANKS!
Nice to see you fellas! Always super in depth, and I truly appreciate it! Sounds like you guys are on the fence with this one. It’s how I feel about Dracula. I love it. It’s addicting..but I leave mad more than happy when I play it. I think I will sell it to make room for Avengers. I don’t feel I would need them both. I don’t want to be frustrated with 2 games in my collection. Lol
No Fear is a great example of when you don’t have to use your third flipper. I actually prefer not to use it a lot of the time.
Hey Zach I heard you mentioned me in a pod cast. I'm the guy who had the radical. I did sell it but I also used the money to buy deadpool from you. Love me some deadpool. Wish I could of got you that game. Would of been pretty cool seeing it on SDTM. Oh well.
Dang but hey thanks for the thought buddy
Yes definitely make a video on the different types of player and the different types of games and which types of games different types of players tend to like. I'm relatively new to pinball and despite everyone loving pat lawlor games i just never got into them, whereas i cant get enough of attack from mars. Would love to know what games i'd most likely like based on what i already like to play.
Freaking fantastic idea!!!!
If you could only have one. JP, Deadpool or AIQ. Which one would you take?
JP, then Godzilla, then Deadpool, then AIQ.
Hope you do a video soon covering Sterns next game. Keep em coming fellas.
Looking forward to seeing what they have in store for us!!!!!
Stern released a Led Zeppelin pinball early this year! I think Stern should make a pinball based on the cartoon The Magic School Bus! How does that sound?
Ordered my premium yesterday. Thanks for the review. Hoping I don’t regret not getting Deadpool. Newbie pinball enthusiast. First machine. Which of the two would you prefer? Deadpool premium is sold out until next production which is maybe in the fall.
Great review of Avengers! I own this pin and am not a pro. You guys see this machine so much the same as I do. It can piss you off too? 😆
Don’t know where you went but I’m glad you did this machine upon your return. Thanks! BTW: Lighting up those back ramps is the best mod (cheapest) of many that I’ve done to this machine besides the (expensive) Mezelmod tower.. Keep em coming guys!
Totally agree with Greg on the artwork!
I appreciate the review, thumbs up for sure! However the reasons you don't love the game are some of the reasons I do. The rules are at first overly complex, but this allows the game to grow with you in a home environment, which makes it a long lasting game, in my collection anyway. I don't really understand where to place the gems once they are earned and I really don't care right now, but one day i might sink my teeth into it. It certainly doesn't take away from the game for me. The shots are so satisfying and the combos, ohhh the combos this game just flows.
This game is proof that sound and callouts matter. Fun layout but I just don't get that amped when I play it.
Missed you two!!! I feel like it's been way too long.
This is one of the few games I like the Pro Version better, the Captain Marvel shot on the Premium has a vert ramp that is a nightmare. Overall a beautiful game though, but man is it fast and tough. Great review dudes 👍🏻
What code version did you have installed for this review? That would be nice to know for reference as often code can change or adjust some of the issues you have mentioned. Thanks for the review!
Played both of these back to back and TMNT (both pro) seemed more fun. And the power up shot at 6 between the posts, how do you hit that! dayum.
Absolutely nailed it on the shots…I’ve had it a year now, and it’s the most frustrating game ever because of the shot precision needed (and i consider myself a very good player)…B is the correct score, especially hate the sanctum shot…the spinner is ALWAYS in the way! Rules are fun…but the progression isn’t when you lose a mode. You feel zero progression and can’t get the gem again unless you get another gem or beat thanos…meh, still love the table, but is the one going to be replaced soon.
Zach - you mentioned 3 callouts from games that are from IP based pins
More guys! 👍👍👍
Thanks ER!
This is a good show. Would love if you guys just added like 20 minutes of gameplay at the end as well
Really enjoy these pin review videos! Keep up the great work and keep them coming guys! By the way...Godzilla?
Thank you sir! Godzilla? We’re in the dark as much as you!
hello im debating between godzilla pro and avengers pro, im selling a deadpool pro because it became ripetitive fast and to simplistic, cant have a lot pf fun with that, can ungive any advice on one of the two ?
Keep DP Pro and GZ Pro and avoid this one if you want the best of the three. If not, keep them all. I am picking up my AIQ this weekend. I already have the other two.
Bought the game but I’m still waiting for it... I haven’t played pinball in many years, so I hope I can get some enjoyability out of it! As always, great review guys.
It’s tough not to enjoy this game. You’ll be happy with it
I'm debating over this game hmmmm
On Thursday 29 April the game will be here... I’m so looking forward to shoot this game! 😎
@@koenlauwaert538 Let me know how you like it! I'm gonna order!
@@garethm2009 I will let you know...
Yes please !! New video !! THIS IS AWESOME !!
Thank you!!!!
not rating sound>? play more Hobbit, the battle of the 5 armies still gives me chills when you crank it up! always look forward to a review... good or bad. thanks lads. (from Australia)
I completely agree.....and I think Zach does as well! Superb integration
Any thoughts on iron man?
I really love Avengers. It just works for me but I can understand why people don't care for it. I was going to buy one until I got mesmerized by Godzilla and bought that instead
Great game and toys, overall. I agree with Greg very fun, but very frustrating and I don't care enough about the story / game play. After a couple of games I move to Jurrasic Park A+. Zach threw out an idea on pinball players styles and pins desirability to the player type. A rich psycho analytic narrative, you can play Jung and Freud in the Twilight Zone.
Pls do the top 5 games you miss Greg’s idea is a good one ;)
Great show like allways! 👍🏻
Thank you! Good to be back in front of the camera
Love the pinball reviews guys.. I’m contemplating selling my Turtles LE for an Avengers. Which is the better game in your opinion?
I want to know
Give the game a little more time Greg if you can.... once it all clicks it’s a keeper.
i have a question, i have an addams family and i know chicago is gonna make a remake, i’m just wondering if that will up the price or lower the price
CGC is not remaking the Addams Family, probably ever. The licensing can/will never get ironed out because the estates of the folks involved are greedy people.
this episode was hilarious
a very tough game would need to play for hours of failure to master a decent score
You have to learn the rules on this. Stack Thor mb with a mode. Collect then assign the stones. Great game imo.
Haha I have the premium and feel exactly like these guys! I am on the fence of selling and trading for deadpool and yesterday I had a good game and I was dammit!!
But hate the code and how you need a degree in pinball coding to exploit the score
Ha ha I’m so happy I’m not alone!!! (Greg)
So you’re saying I should cancel my AIQ order and go with Deadpool?
When is Greg going to get a DEJP in place of that lethal weapon?!? That was the only thing I didn't like in this video guys!
Ha ha I’m always hunting for a nice one!!!! I’m just being to picky I think 🤔
Why are they talking about gyms?
😂
You don't have to use the third upper mini flipper on my Paragon, sooo......Paragon is better than Avengers Infinity.
Take that Elwin!
I give this video.... a B+!
Ha ha I’ll take a B+
No shotout for me...I donated too...
Watching this again, and having played Godzilla, I will say "moments" can get tiresome. Godzilla premium is amazing, but that multiball start loses it's charm after a handful of times.
art by zombie yeti
Played it yesterday, Typical unimpressive new stern.
Game has no “soul”
Ugliest thing I've ever seen. A hot, holy mess. It's like someone knocked over a tree covered with nothing but colored tinsel and you're telling me to stare at it until I see explosions and lens flares and Transformers that look like water. Video monitors on Pinball is intrusive graffiti. That sure is a steaming pile of modern art you got there. The computer that made it with it's bare computer hands deserves a feather cookie and tar milkshake. Love the channel, guys.
this video is FUCKING LOUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Loud and proud babay!