For the last year, I have had injection every 3 months between my eyes and forehead. The first two times, I did Botox, the third time I did Xeomin and the last time Dysport. The Botox was nice but did not last long in my strong muscles. The Xeomin was the weakest and hardly effected my muscles at all. The Dysport is by far the best for me!! It worked quickly, has the strongest effect and results and is lasting longer. I know we are all biodiverse, but for me it's Dysport all the way.
@@scarlethelen totally agree it’s practically instant results and has more staying power for me- never tried Xeomin, per you I think I will pass but Daxxify is also worth a try!!!
First of all, I love that you chose a man for your patient. He's adorable. I love your videos!! Keep up the great work. I had the exact same question when comparing the two.
I’m glad that you liked that I chose a guy. They love their wrinkle relaxers too! They may not admit to it as much. 😆. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Would you mind doing a video on various fillers like Juvederm, Restylane, Teosyal, Revolax, Princess, etc? Which ones are the best for what procedures and which ones to avoid altogether?:)
Stella Strange Hi Stella, I would only be able to do a video on 2 of the fillers you mentioned and that’s because only Juvederm and Restylane are currently approved in the US right now. We are getting approval for Teoxane sometime this year, not sure if that’s the same as Teosyal? What country are you in?
Stella Strange Oh ok you’re in the UK. Yes I think that Teosyal may be the same as Teoxane. Each country can change the names. We are due to get Restylane Kysse soon but I don’t believe it’s approved yet.
Ty for sharing this...I love getting this kind of info b4 making a decision💐 Other YTers have shown their results but I’ve never seen a side by side comparison...super helpful!
Wow!! This video really sold me on the Dysport. I’ve only ever done Botox and just learned of Dysport today. The price difference is what really got me interested so then I was curious if it lined up unit to unit. This video did a fantastic job and showcasing what Dysport can do. Gunna schedule my appt with my local spa now. Thank you!!
Can I ask did you get the same units of dysport as Botox or do you have to triple the dysport? I’m a little confused is she saying the units are the same or not?
You usually need 50 units dysport to 30 botox but dysport cost less per unit. I pay more for dysport but I find it lasts longer. Botox is superior for me it doesn't last but while it does it looks better but it triggers my Migraines for some reason. Just my opinion I'm just a regular person
Glad you enjoyed the comparison. Your results also depend on how many units your forehead was treated with. Perhaps you need more. Hope you followed up with your provider to compare your pics
I use Botox for preventative treatment and was wondering if I should try Dysport but it seems that Botox is good enough for me. Thank you for this informative video though
I’ve tried Botox , Xeomin, Dysport and Juveau. All at least 2-3 rounds and loved Dysport the most and then Juveau. Botox and Xeomin took forever to take effect.
Ok you guys are so good. This helps.i used dysport when i was like ..21 or24(i know too early haha but am happy i did,&now i see your vid i will re do it.that's what i thought,it's awesome and i think it actually can kinda stay.❤❤)
@@NaturalInjector I do like Xeomin. I think it’s gaining popularity as the most “natural” neurotoxin on the market. So far it seems equivalent to Botox but it would be awesome to see the comparison like you’ve done before. Do you know when the long lasting neurotoxin is set to come out?
@@mrmincraft799 I think their whole “natural toxin” is just marketing bs. What exactly makes it more natural? We have been all awaiting the new toxin. They’re still trying to get it FDA approved. Hopefully we shall have it sometime in 2022.
@@NaturalInjector All the other neurotoxins have complexing proteins in them along with the actual toxin. Xeomin is just toxin, no complexing proteins. Also the lowest molecular weight toxin on the market. 150kDa compared to Botox which is around 900kDa. I believe Dysport is around 800 kDa. And I think in general all the products are marketed to be differentiated in some way. That's why their marketing departments get paid the big bucks lol So at the end of the day it's what the patient wants (quickest onset = dysport, natural = xeomin, most familiar in the marketplace = botox). That's my thought at least. Do you have one you think is the best personally?
@@mrmincraft799 It sure is gaining popularity as the most natural neurotoxin but I think it’s misleading for them to say that. Their toxin doesn’t have accessory proteins on it so I’m not sure how that’s more “natural.” The company manufacturing the new neurotoxin is still going thru trials so hopefully it will be out in the new year. There have been a lot of delays, possibly because the FDA is busy with Covid.
Hi Kimi. I have switched a lot of people who have strong muscles from Botox to Dysport and they usually love it. It definitely seems like it does a better job for them.
Great video! How many units of each (Botox/Dysport) total did you use? I'm curious given there is no definitive unit for unit comparison. My eyebags arent like the model's but forehead and crows are comparable. Thanks!
thanks for the effort doctor i really would like to know if anyone of your patients complained about small cramps in the forehead ? or headaches after using Dysport ?? i had Dysport for my forehead 2 months ago
Sometimes ppl do complain of headaches a few days after getting Botox or Dysport. It’s rare but it happens. It may be because your muscles were trying to fight to move and could not move as well after getting Dysport.
Very cool video thank you. One question... if botox’s powder ( at the bottom of the phial ) is destroyed ( crushed), is Botox quality still good? Thank you
Hi Dmitri glad you enjoyed the video. All botulinum toxins come in tiny glass vials. With Botox’s brand, there is actually NO powder. Botox comes dry and you can’t see anything in the vial before reconstitution. Nothing is crushed when we reconstitute any of the Botulinum toxins, we add normal saline to them so that we are able to inject them into muscles and nothing is destroyed when we do that. Botox was the first on the market and is probably the closest to the natural toxin formula made by the bacteria, but all toxins need to be reconstituted so that we can use them. Nothing is being destroyed. Hope that answered your question.
I only get 10 units of dysport and I’m one of those lucky people who get ut and it lasts a long time. I got it for the first time last March and I just got another top up today.
Gracias!!! Mañana voy a hacerme el tratamiento y venía aplicando botox y acá en Argentina recién ahora se descubre el dysport cómo más fuerte y duradero. Y estaba en duda, me convencieron para dejar el botox y hacerme con dysport 😊 Thank you!!! Tomorrow I am going to have the treatment and I had been applying botox and here in Argentina the dysport is only now being discovered as stronger and more durable. And it's and i was in doubt, now they convinced me to try dysport 😊😊
That’s a great question. I have never heard of toxins being used for shoulder slimming. Perhaps Botox would be best as they have done more studies on different areas of the body, at least here in the US.
Is dysport ok for crows feet on eyes? or would it spread to close to eyes since it’s more liquidity? For this reason, I wonder if botox is better for eye area? It does not spread it stays more put since less liquidity
Hi Kristine. Dysport can be used to treat the crows feet. I don’t believe it spreads more than Botox. I think that the diffusion has to do with how much you volume you use to reconstitute the product. The larger the volume the more likely spread. I use the same volumes to reconstitute both.
I have been getting Botox twice a year for 7 years. Last time I was able to wait 1 year before needing it (glabellar). But, they talked me into trying Dysport instead. Big mistake. Over 2 weeks later, nothing. Nothing! It's like I got nothing injected.😠
i was worried because i had dysport 4 days ago and it hasnt very much kicked in yet and they told me after 2 days i should see result so that made me feel better about spending so much money ill wait 14 days, because right now i only see maybe 10-20% reducement of mobility and id like to be around 50-60%
I’m sure it will kick in more. By around 14 days you should have full results but I encourage you to go in and look at your before photos to compare the results.
So, I had an injector (She's amazing) that only deferred to dysport in a couple of circumstances 1. when someone has been getting Botox for a long period and develops a resistance and 2. to diffuse around the crow's feet area, she believed it diffuses better in that location.
@@NaturalInjector well, here’s the problem. I had an upper lip implant many years ago, sadly it made 0 difference . So I want to see if I can still go with a filler to enlarge my upper lip
@@chanelschannel4705 What kind of permanent implant? Silicone? Also I would definitely discuss this with the injector you choose. I have a patient who has silicone in her lips and she has gotten them injected with filler.
@@NaturalInjector that’s good to know. But the injector said she wouldn’t touch any lips with an implant of any kind. Spoke to a plastic surgeon who said only a plastic surgeon with that kind of experience should intervene at this point. Thank- you . I’ll have to follow up with a well known surgeon .
Either works great. When I have switched from using Botox to Dysport for a lip flip, some patients have mentioned that the side effects of the weakening or paralyzed feeling is a lot stronger than with the same amount of units of Botox. Which makes sense with the finding of this video. I have found this to be the case for myself as well. When I use Dysport I usually get a fuller Cupid’s bow and I feel the weakening more. So if you get Dysport to this area I would just be cautious of that. I have a video on Lip Flips you can check out 👉 th-cam.com/video/ZKSzcR6I9fE/w-d-xo.html
When you say "better" it can have many meanings when it comes to neuromodulators. Does better mean it kicks in faster? Does better mean it is stronger? You can use any neuromodulator for a Botox brow lift but I am not sure what "better" would mean to you. All of them would work the same way for a Botox brow lift. Dysport does seem stronger so if someone has strong muscles it could be better for them, but if someone is scared about getting this treatment, getting a neuromodulator that is not as paralyzing (Botox) could be better for them.
I usually use Botox to this area but Dysport would probably have more of a paralytic effect from what I found from this split face study and also from noticing a difference of more of a paralytic effect when I use Dysport to the upper lip. The company that makes Botox (Allergan) is actually in the works of trying to get FDA approval to this area for facial slimming.
@@honeybadgernasty Try looking it up or maybe there are some videos here on TH-cam but yeah ppl of East-Asian descent can have bulkier calves so they use it to slim their calves down
Not more than from other neuromodulators. There are some people who report headaches after getting Botox or Dysport but if this is the case you would most likely get them w/ any neuromodulator.
I truly think Dysport is especially good for men. It spreads better over a larger area, so it’s better for the frontalis. It doesn’t burn off as quickly for me, and it creates a more even, natural appearance. Botox is great for spot treatment, but for me, Dysport is king.
I noticed dysport also helped tighten tHe pores on my forehead. What can do this for the pores on top cheek area? If I lifted or filled cheeks just a bit with voluma would it help pores to look tighter/smaller?
You may have noticed that it helped reduce the oil of the skin. I don’t think it actually tightens pores though as there is nothing that can be done to actually change the size of your pores. Things can help make pores look less visible though (chemical peels, face masks, other types of exfoliation). Some of my patients report getting less acne when they get Dysport or Botox to their foreheads. You can try peels, clay masks, retinoids, or other exfoliative treatments to help make the pores less visible. Voluma is designed to be injected at a deeper level to add volume so it will not effect the outer layer of skin where your pores are.
I didn’t choose to do a split face study with Xeomin because it’s a less used toxin brand compared to the others. If it becomes more popular perhaps I will make a split face study but there was another toxin that just got FDA approval that’s supposed to be the longest lasting toxin. I’m waiting to do a split face study on that one.
Amazing !! Thank you so much I’m getting Botox tomorrow didn’t know much about dysport but I think that’s what I need since I do have a big forehead and it’s more noticeable
@@NaturalInjector I'm doing ok-- how are you two doing? Miss you lots! Hope you can come visit us one of these days. We didn't get to spend enough time together last time you were here. Say 'hi' to Reo for me! :-) xoxo
mielr Glad to hear you are doing well. How is your mom and Mara, I’m sure the baby is so big now. I just heard the stay at home orders are not in effect until July in LA 😞
Actually the point of Botox/Dysport for most people, is to get rid of and reduce wrinkles. Most people’s FEAR of getting Botox/Dysport is that they won’t be able to move and look too frozen.
Yeh I prefer no movement in the glabellar 11 s but forehead I don't mind wrinkled as I have a fringe I think foreheads that don't move are odd looking.
Which would you recommend for grinding? I have had Botox, Xeomin, and Dysport. I didn't pay attention to which took effect quickest or which lasted longer. I am also concerned about product migration. (It happened to me once - it was either Botox or Dysport... can't remember)
I think all would help with grinding. The company that makes Botox is doing the clinical studies for cosmetic treatment of facial slimming in the masseter muscles which can also help with grinding. I have a video about masseter Botox on my channel. I think migration to other muscles would be more from injection placement and if you possibly worked out after treatment that could possibly have effected migration.
@@NaturalInjector Yes Emily, I don't see a difference between the two sides of the eyes with the two different neurotoxins- maybe it's just me and my eyes? 🤓 But I could definitely tell on the forehead. Lighting in the office, and standing right in front of the patient in person may be different for me - who knows. I've had Botox in my Glabella and forehead and I was drawn to your video because I am interested in the difference. Thank you for the video and I'd love to see more. As an aside - do you notice any difference in facial musculature between men and women? - Or do you think different techniques or treatments work differently between men and women?
@@npkrn6764 Yes in general men have stronger facial muscles than women and usually require more units. I use the same techniques for men and women, I just adjust the dosage based on how strong I feel the muscles are. Thanks for watching and for your feedback.
Really cool that you took the time and energy to put this study together.
Pablo Porfirio Thank you Pablito!
For the last year, I have had injection every 3 months between my eyes and forehead. The first two times, I did Botox, the third time I did Xeomin and the last time Dysport. The Botox was nice but did not last long in my strong muscles. The Xeomin was the weakest and hardly effected my muscles at all. The Dysport is by far the best for me!! It worked quickly, has the strongest effect and results and is lasting longer. I know we are all biodiverse, but for me it's Dysport all the way.
Thanks for sharing your story Helen!
@@scarlethelen totally agree it’s practically instant results and has more staying power for me- never tried Xeomin, per you I think I will pass but Daxxify is also worth a try!!!
@@NaturalInjector can i ask you please schould i mix it with 3 cc of serum and how much unit i schould injekt in every area
First of all, I love that you chose a man for your patient. He's adorable. I love your videos!! Keep up the great work. I had the exact same question when comparing the two.
I’m glad that you liked that I chose a guy. They love their wrinkle relaxers too! They may not admit to it as much. 😆. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Amazing study! Thank you for the time in this! Love it!
Glad it was helpful!
This is by far the most informative site I have found! You keep answering all my questions
That’s the goal! To answer questions to empower people to make better decisions about cosmetic treatments. Glad you found this channel 😊
Would you mind doing a video on various fillers like Juvederm, Restylane, Teosyal, Revolax, Princess, etc? Which ones are the best for what procedures and which ones to avoid altogether?:)
Stella Strange Hi Stella, I would only be able to do a video on 2 of the fillers you mentioned and that’s because only Juvederm and Restylane are currently approved in the US right now. We are getting approval for Teoxane sometime this year, not sure if that’s the same as Teosyal? What country are you in?
Natural Injector I’m in the UK - I think Teosyal might be a derivative of Teoxane. And I’ve heard Teosyal Kiss is very similar to Restylane Kysse.
Stella Strange Oh ok you’re in the UK. Yes I think that Teosyal may be the same as Teoxane. Each country can change the names. We are due to get Restylane Kysse soon but I don’t believe it’s approved yet.
Ty for sharing this...I love getting this kind of info b4 making a decision💐 Other YTers have shown their results but I’ve never seen a side by side comparison...super helpful!
Glad you found it helpful!
Great video! I'm considering getting my first injections and I've been researching the differences between Dysport and Botox. This was so helpful!
Glad you loved the video! If you found that helpful you may wanna check this one out 👉 th-cam.com/video/TdE_PU7ZZJk/w-d-xo.html
Evidence-based comparison. Thank you.
I try my best to provide evidence based examples. Thanks for your comment!
Wow!! This video really sold me on the Dysport. I’ve only ever done Botox and just learned of Dysport today. The price difference is what really got me interested so then I was curious if it lined up unit to unit. This video did a fantastic job and showcasing what Dysport can do. Gunna schedule my appt with my local spa now. Thank you!!
Can I ask did you get the same units of dysport as Botox or do you have to triple the dysport? I’m a little confused is she saying the units are the same or not?
You usually need 50 units dysport to 30 botox but dysport cost less per unit. I pay more for dysport but I find it lasts longer. Botox is superior for me it doesn't last but while it does it looks better but it triggers my Migraines for some reason. Just my opinion I'm just a regular person
Thanks for doing this comparison! I didn’t notice that bug if a difference to my forehead with Botox and have been thinking about trying dysport
Glad you enjoyed the comparison. Your results also depend on how many units your forehead was treated with. Perhaps you need more. Hope you followed up with your provider to compare your pics
I use Botox for preventative treatment and was wondering if I should try Dysport but it seems that Botox is good enough for me. Thank you for this informative video though
Hello thank you for the informative video. I think I need to go with the Dysport after watching your video. May I ask, where are you located
Glad you found the video helpful! I’m located in Los Angeles.
I’ve tried Botox , Xeomin, Dysport and Juveau. All at least 2-3 rounds and loved Dysport the most and then Juveau. Botox and Xeomin took forever to take effect.
Wow you’re a hero for doing this!
I have always heard that Botox is best for stronger facial muscles....now you got my rethinking!
So glad you found the video helpful Amanda. I’ve switched a few of my patients with stronger muscles to Dysport and they prefer it over Botox.
This was super informative - thank you!
Glad you found it useful James!
I really enjoyed watching this video …it was very informative! Thank you!!
So glad you found it helpful!
Ok you guys are so good. This helps.i used dysport when i was like ..21 or24(i know too early haha but am happy i did,&now i see your vid i will re do it.that's what i thought,it's awesome and i think it actually can kinda stay.❤❤)
So glad u did this video . 🤘🏽
Glad you found it helpful! Im glad I did it too because it helped me understand how they differ. 😊
Dysport for me! Loved it, it lasted 5 plus months for me. 😁
Would love to see a comparison between Botox and Xeomin! Thanks for this video.
Glad you found the video helpful. I’ll be making another video comparison once the long lasting daxybotulinum comes out. Do you like Xeomin?
@@NaturalInjector I do like Xeomin. I think it’s gaining popularity as the most “natural” neurotoxin on the market. So far it seems equivalent to Botox but it would be awesome to see the comparison like you’ve done before. Do you know when the long lasting neurotoxin is set to come out?
@@mrmincraft799 I think their whole “natural toxin” is just marketing bs. What exactly makes it more natural? We have been all awaiting the new toxin. They’re still trying to get it FDA approved. Hopefully we shall have it sometime in 2022.
@@NaturalInjector All the other neurotoxins have complexing proteins in them along with the actual toxin. Xeomin is just toxin, no complexing proteins. Also the lowest molecular weight toxin on the market. 150kDa compared to Botox which is around 900kDa. I believe Dysport is around 800 kDa. And I think in general all the products are marketed to be differentiated in some way. That's why their marketing departments get paid the big bucks lol So at the end of the day it's what the patient wants (quickest onset = dysport, natural = xeomin, most familiar in the marketplace = botox). That's my thought at least. Do you have one you think is the best personally?
@@mrmincraft799 It sure is gaining popularity as the most natural neurotoxin but I think it’s misleading for them to say that. Their toxin doesn’t have accessory proteins on it so I’m not sure how that’s more “natural.” The company manufacturing the new neurotoxin is still going thru trials so hopefully it will be out in the new year. There have been a lot of delays, possibly because the FDA is busy with Covid.
Dysport works a lot better on me. I have very strong 11 lines
Hi Kimi. I have switched a lot of people who have strong muscles from Botox to Dysport and they usually love it. It definitely seems like it does a better job for them.
Great video! How many units of each (Botox/Dysport) total did you use? I'm curious given there is no definitive unit for unit comparison. My eyebags arent like the model's but forehead and crows are comparable. Thanks!
Thanks Ryan! I believe I treated him with 12 units on each side of his crows feet (24 total) and 10 units to his forehead.
Was it 10 units of Botox and 30 units of Dysport if you don’t mind me asking ? 😃
@@SaraH-hp8ui Yes, that would be what we think would be the equivalent between the 2 neurotoxins. 👍
thanks for the effort doctor
i really would like to know if anyone of your patients complained about small cramps in the forehead ? or headaches after using Dysport ??
i had Dysport for my forehead 2 months ago
Sometimes ppl do complain of headaches a few days after getting Botox or Dysport. It’s rare but it happens. It may be because your muscles were trying to fight to move and could not move as well after getting Dysport.
Thanks for this vid. I have done Dysport 4 times before. I am wondering is it safe health wise? I want to do it again. Ty
I don’t see why it wouldn’t be safe.
Thanks for this video!! 🙌🙌
So glad you enjoyed it and found it useful Diana! Feel free to share it with others.
Thank you, very helpful.🙏 Just subscribed.
Thanks so much for subscribing! Do you have a IG?
Very cool video thank you. One question... if botox’s powder ( at the bottom of the phial ) is destroyed ( crushed), is Botox quality still good?
Thank you
Hi Dmitri glad you enjoyed the video. All botulinum toxins come in tiny glass vials. With Botox’s brand, there is actually NO powder. Botox comes dry and you can’t see anything in the vial before reconstitution. Nothing is crushed when we reconstitute any of the Botulinum toxins, we add normal saline to them so that we are able to inject them into muscles and nothing is destroyed when we do that. Botox was the first on the market and is probably the closest to the natural toxin formula made by the bacteria, but all toxins need to be reconstituted so that we can use them. Nothing is being destroyed. Hope that answered your question.
I only get 10 units of dysport and I’m one of those lucky people who get ut and it lasts a long time. I got it for the first time last March and I just got another top up today.
Thanks for sharing. Glad you like it and it lasts long on you.
Dysport spreads out more for me I’m 48 and lasts a good month longer
Thanks for sharing your experience Kimi! 👍
Good job!
Jared Dowe thanks Jared.
I LOVE Dysport .. Botox lasts 3 months on me and Dysport lasts 4 months for me .. ❤️❤️
Thanks for sharing! I like it too I definitely think it’s stronger than Botox.
Gracias!!! Mañana voy a hacerme el tratamiento y venía aplicando botox y acá en Argentina recién ahora se descubre el dysport cómo más fuerte y duradero. Y estaba en duda, me convencieron para dejar el botox y hacerme con dysport 😊
Thank you!!! Tomorrow I am going to have the treatment and I had been applying botox and here in Argentina the dysport is only now being discovered as stronger and more durable. And it's and i was in doubt, now they convinced me to try dysport 😊😊
Which one would you recommend for shoulder slimming?
That’s a great question. I have never heard of toxins being used for shoulder slimming. Perhaps Botox would be best as they have done more studies on different areas of the body, at least here in the US.
Which of the two would you recommend for a gummy smile?
If you have never had neuromodulators before I would start with Botox. After that you can use Dysport but I would start with Botox,
Is dysport ok for crows feet on eyes? or would it spread to close to eyes since it’s more liquidity? For this reason, I wonder if botox is better for eye area? It does not spread it stays more put since less liquidity
Hi Kristine. Dysport can be used to treat the crows feet. I don’t believe it spreads more than Botox. I think that the diffusion has to do with how much you volume you use to reconstitute the product. The larger the volume the more likely spread. I use the same volumes to reconstitute both.
I have been getting Botox twice a year for 7 years. Last time I was able to wait 1 year before needing it (glabellar). But, they talked me into trying Dysport instead. Big mistake. Over 2 weeks later, nothing. Nothing! It's like I got nothing injected.😠
i was worried because i had dysport 4 days ago and it hasnt very much kicked in yet and they told me after 2 days i should see result so that made me feel better about spending so much money ill wait 14 days, because right now i only see maybe 10-20% reducement of mobility and id like to be around 50-60%
I’m sure it will kick in more. By around 14 days you should have full results but I encourage you to go in and look at your before photos to compare the results.
I love Dysport
It’s great! Thanks for watching
Hi great video. Can you do a comparison Botox vs Xeomin ?
I will keep that in mind for future videos. I have used Xeomin and found it very comparable to Botox and Jeaveau.
So, I had an injector (She's amazing) that only deferred to dysport in a couple of circumstances 1. when someone has been getting Botox for a long period and develops a resistance and 2. to diffuse around the crow's feet area, she believed it diffuses better in that location.
What would you recommend for lip augmentation ?
Do you mean lip filler? Like what brand?
@@NaturalInjector well, here’s the problem. I had an upper lip implant many years ago, sadly it made 0 difference . So I want to see if I can still go with a filler to enlarge my upper lip
@@chanelschannel4705 What kind of permanent implant? Silicone? Also I would definitely discuss this with the injector you choose. I have a patient who has silicone in her lips and she has gotten them injected with filler.
@@NaturalInjector that’s good to know. But the injector said she wouldn’t touch any lips with an implant of any kind. Spoke to a plastic surgeon who said only a plastic surgeon with that kind of experience should intervene at this point. Thank- you . I’ll have to follow up with a well known surgeon .
@@chanelschannel4705 sounds good 👌
This is really cool... Looks like Botox is better. I unfortunately had my very first session with support, which now feels like a waste.
Dysport much better than Botox
Do you recommend Dysport or Botox for lip flip?
Either works great. When I have switched from using Botox to Dysport for a lip flip, some patients have mentioned that the side effects of the weakening or paralyzed feeling is a lot stronger than with the same amount of units of Botox. Which makes sense with the finding of this video. I have found this to be the case for myself as well. When I use Dysport I usually get a fuller Cupid’s bow and I feel the weakening more. So if you get Dysport to this area I would just be cautious of that. I have a video on Lip Flips you can check out 👉 th-cam.com/video/ZKSzcR6I9fE/w-d-xo.html
@@NaturalInjector Thank you so much!
@@jelly3821 👍 you’re very welcome
Which one do you think is better for a brow lift? Botox, dysport, or xeomin?
When you say "better" it can have many meanings when it comes to neuromodulators. Does better mean it kicks in faster? Does better mean it is stronger? You can use any neuromodulator for a Botox brow lift but I am not sure what "better" would mean to you. All of them would work the same way for a Botox brow lift. Dysport does seem stronger so if someone has strong muscles it could be better for them, but if someone is scared about getting this treatment, getting a neuromodulator that is not as paralyzing (Botox) could be better for them.
From your experience, is Botox or Dysport more affective for the masseter muscles?
I usually use Botox to this area but Dysport would probably have more of a paralytic effect from what I found from this split face study and also from noticing a difference of more of a paralytic effect when I use Dysport to the upper lip. The company that makes Botox (Allergan) is actually in the works of trying to get FDA approval to this area for facial slimming.
@@NaturalInjector ahhhh...very interesting...
I want to use Dysport on my very muscular calves to slim down my legs...have you heard of it?
@@honeybadgernasty Yes I have it’s more popular in East-Asia.
@@NaturalInjector ooohhhh...do tell! I'd love to find more information on it!
@@honeybadgernasty Try looking it up or maybe there are some videos here on TH-cam but yeah ppl of East-Asian descent can have bulkier calves so they use it to slim their calves down
Are there more common side effects as far as getting a headache after dysport?
Not more than from other neuromodulators. There are some people who report headaches after getting Botox or Dysport but if this is the case you would most likely get them w/ any neuromodulator.
Do you place the injection points differently for the 2 products? i.e dysport injection point further apart?
Nope I had similar placement for both toxins
Cate unitati de Dysport se folosesc la frunte?
I truly think Dysport is especially good for men. It spreads better over a larger area, so it’s better for the frontalis. It doesn’t burn off as quickly for me, and it creates a more even, natural appearance. Botox is great for spot treatment, but for me, Dysport is king.
I noticed dysport also helped tighten tHe pores on my forehead. What can do this for the pores on top cheek area? If I lifted or filled cheeks just a bit with voluma would it help pores to look tighter/smaller?
You may have noticed that it helped reduce the oil of the skin. I don’t think it actually tightens pores though as there is nothing that can be done to actually change the size of your pores. Things can help make pores look less visible though (chemical peels, face masks, other types of exfoliation). Some of my patients report getting less acne when they get Dysport or Botox to their foreheads. You can try peels, clay masks, retinoids, or other exfoliative treatments to help make the pores less visible. Voluma is designed to be injected at a deeper level to add volume so it will not effect the outer layer of skin where your pores are.
Can you do one with dysport vs daxxify?
Is the right side the dysport side?
His (the patients) right side yes. It’s labeled on the video on the bottom
This is great I always ask this and I was told nothing really , 🤔
How many units did you use for the eye area?
I believe 10 units of Botox and 30 Dysport
Have u ever had someone get sick from it ?
Nope. Never
How about the xeomin?
I didn’t choose to do a split face study with Xeomin because it’s a less used toxin brand compared to the others. If it becomes more popular perhaps I will make a split face study but there was another toxin that just got FDA approval that’s supposed to be the longest lasting toxin. I’m waiting to do a split face study on that one.
Amazing !! Thank you so much I’m getting Botox tomorrow didn’t know much about dysport but I think that’s what I need since I do have a big forehead and it’s more noticeable
Great job- BOTH of you! LOL!
mielr Thanks Miel! How are you?
@@NaturalInjector I'm doing ok-- how are you two doing? Miss you lots! Hope you can come visit us one of these days. We didn't get to spend enough time together last time you were here. Say 'hi' to Reo for me! :-) xoxo
mielr Glad to hear you are doing well. How is your mom and Mara, I’m sure the baby is so big now. I just heard the stay at home orders are not in effect until July in LA 😞
@@NaturalInjector Diane and Mara are fine, Ronan is nearly 4! Yes, I guess we'll all be in for a while longer. :-(
Can you do daxxify
@@sam8898 Yes I will eventually come out with a video on that I have one video talking about it but I didn’t have time to do the split face study
I thought the point of Botox/ dysport was for your forehead to not move. (The frozen look.). His forehead still moves after both Botox and dysport.
Actually the point of Botox/Dysport for most people, is to get rid of and reduce wrinkles. Most people’s FEAR of getting Botox/Dysport is that they won’t be able to move and look too frozen.
@Johnx Doex 👍 everyone’s goals are different and I have come across people who want no movement but that’s usually more to their glabella area.
Yeh I prefer no movement in the glabellar 11 s but forehead I don't mind wrinkled as I have a fringe I think foreheads that don't move are odd looking.
Can you add Dysport to Botox ?
What do you mean by that? Do you mean if someone has gotten Botox in the past can they be treated with Dysport within a short time frame?
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Which would you recommend for grinding? I have had Botox, Xeomin, and Dysport. I didn't pay attention to which took effect quickest or which lasted longer.
I am also concerned about product migration. (It happened to me once - it was either Botox or Dysport... can't remember)
I think all would help with grinding. The company that makes Botox is doing the clinical studies for cosmetic treatment of facial slimming in the masseter muscles which can also help with grinding. I have a video about masseter Botox on my channel. I think migration to other muscles would be more from injection placement and if you possibly worked out after treatment that could possibly have effected migration.
@Natural Injector - Emily Dowe, PA-C Thank you! Really appreciate it! Love your videos!
@@m.arnold717 Glad you love them! My new video just literally premiered, hope you get a chance to watch it! Good luck with your treatments!
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Interesting
Thanks for watching 😊
starts 1:38
I don't see any difference in the crows feet but definitely in the forehead.
Do you mean you don’t see a difference between the 2 neurotoxins?
@@NaturalInjector Yes Emily, I don't see a difference between the two sides of the eyes with the two different neurotoxins- maybe it's just me and my eyes? 🤓 But I could definitely tell on the forehead. Lighting in the office, and standing right in front of the patient in person may be different for me - who knows. I've had Botox in my Glabella and forehead and I was drawn to your video because I am interested in the difference. Thank you for the video and I'd love to see more.
As an aside - do you notice any difference in facial musculature between men and women? - Or do you think different techniques or treatments work differently between men and women?
@@npkrn6764 Yes in general men have stronger facial muscles than women and usually require more units. I use the same techniques for men and women, I just adjust the dosage based on how strong I feel the muscles are. Thanks for watching and for your feedback.
@@NaturalInjector Thank you for your response! It makes sense that the dosage may be different between men and women.
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